OK thanks -- and I see that Android uses SurfaceFlinger as the compositing manager for the frame buffer screen, rather than using the X11 server for compositing. But it appears from what I am reading and what you are saying that SurfaceFlinger doesn't really replace X11 server - it is a tool for managing compositing in a completely different manner.
In that case, I've got to agree that Wayland would suddenly become a very important compositor protocol for any distro such as Ubuntu which seeks to make a real dent in the popular desktop-OS marketplace. Any compositor protocol which would create a similar graphical experience as Android would be highly desirable.
Once again, however, it seems to me that if Android could be made to work on the Desktop, most problems would be solved already without spending several years ironing out the kinks in a new compositor protocol. An added advantage to Desktop Android would be the vast market of Android Apps, along with the enormous built-in base of experienced users.
You are absolutely correct on all points. Its a shame that graphics support for Linux has been treated so poorly by so many companies for such a long time. Once again, it points to the clear need for a Desktop version of Android -- with the superior graphics performance and the enormous number of apps, it would be an instant game-changer in the PC market.
Agreed - I guess its just the money poured into Android, and the urgency by Google and partners to keep pace with the competition from Apple. Too bad we still don't have a version of Desktop Android - I think it would be a very useful alternative, and quite popular.
You are correct to an extent - I run Linux, and am able to administer my work stations and optimize performance for my tasks, but I am by no means a developer. I guess that's why I asked the question - I really don't understand why there is such a noticeable difference.
Samsung Android phone is very nice - I log it on to my home wireless network, and get better youtube and live TV performance than on any of my laptops or desktops. So strange to me though - seems like the laptops and desktops have far more system resources.
I'm just talking about my personal experience. I often have dual-booted on the same system over the years, and right now I have two hard drives on my workstation - one that boots into Linux, one that boots into Windows. The difference in graphics rendering between Linux and Windows on the same equipment has always been clear - Windows has always handled graphics-intensive work much more smoothly. So why are graphics under Android so shockingly vivid and smooth?
I continue to run Linux because it can run circles around Windows for similar processor-intensive work - for example, I do a lot of OCR of scanned documents. On a large batch, I can get the OCR done in half the time under Linux compared with Windows.
I agree that the artwork is much better, but the responsiveness under Android is also clearly better, fonts are much nicer, videos and games play smoothly and flawlessly. Hell - my Android phone puts my Linux workstation with its $200 nVidia graphics card to shame.
I've used various Linux distros for 13+ years, and have always been disappointed in the horrible desktop graphics. Compared to a Windows machine, a comparable Linux rig is normally a miserable graphics experience. I was shocked the first time I got my hands on a Xoom tablet - the graphics are by FAR one of the best features of the Android platform. I can't for the life of me understand how there can be such an extreme difference between graphics in desktop linux distros compared to the gorgeous and snappy graphics under Android.
And I'm not even running garbage graphic cards - one of my machines has a very modern nVidia card that plays all the latest games under Windows, but still handles poorly on Linux.
From a technical perspective, I can't understand how there could be such an absurd difference, other than that the Android kernel is a fork, and clearly the Android kernel developers are far more concerned about creating a pleasant and useful graphical experience?
Most thieves simply use the phone until it gets disconnected, then throw it away and steal another one. Others sell them used on Ebay and Craigslist - once they get your money, they don't really care that you can't get service with it. The FCC is considering requiring the carriers to brick phones that are reported stolen, but that doesn't stop any of the above from happening.
Smart thieves are stealing your personal data off your phone and re-selling that for a few extra bucks, or selling batches of them to foreign countries.
So - the scammers are in business for 4-6 months on average before they come up on someone's radar for investigation. The investigation and following the money trail takes at least a month - maybe two. File a complaint, and voila - a month later, Visa and MC are shuttting down the scammer's merchant account.
Well - guess what? Most fraudsters shut down their operations and start a new one every 6 months on average. So - if it takes you 6-9 months to find and shut down their merchant account, you haven't accomplished anything really. They already made all the money they were planning to, and have already set up their next site and account. And, since there is almost zero capital investment required to set up a bogus payment website, these guys are making almost 100% pure profit for the time period that they had originally intended to. Also, they are re-sellling all the credit cards they process, and making money on the back-end.
What in the world does Miranda have to do with this case? Does everyone understand that the term "Miranda" refers to a specific Supreme Court case that dealt with the rights of persons who were placed under arrest, and where prosecutors wanted to bring their statements to the police as evidence against them into the case? Miranda has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the statements of a deceased person who was never arrested and who is not facing prosecution. The ONLY person who could raise a Miranda issue in this case would be Zimmerman's attorney, on behalf of his client.
C'mon people - don't be completely ignorant of the basics of the law - it will only hurt your chances for success in life.
1. From the article description: "The sad fact is that so much money is being spent, no one can even keep count".
2. From an NPR report dated October 11, 2007: "There's a nationwide crime epidemic going on that rakes in $35 billion or more each year. Exactly how much is being stolen is impossible to say, because the federal government doesn't try to measure it. It's Medicare fraud." http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15178883
3. See the similarity? I do.
4. From the Miami Herald newspaper two days ago: "An offshore remittance company called Caribbean Transfers financed a complex money-laundering ring that moved more than $30 million in stolen Medicare money from South Florida into Cuba’s banking system, federal authorities said Thursday." Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/18/3056554/feds-remittance-firm-at-center.html#storylink=cpy
5. Is this so hard to see the relationship? Do you see that I'm not politicking?
1. I don't have an agenda. Healthcare fraud examination is my job - I don't know about "almost every government program".
2. I was referring to a specific, timely news article about a Miami criminal case involving Medicare funds leaving the US and showing up in Cuban banks
3. What you are saying regarding private insurance admin expenses is very interesting. Do you have some special insight into the problem? I'm like Ross Perot - I'm all ears. Contacting me is simple - my name + gmail.
You are asking if I was paid to post this? No, but I, like thousands of other fraud examiners, am paid to track down fraud in the Medicare and Medicaid programs. It is an enormous problem - very real. I don't have a right-wing or a left-wing agenda at all - politicians from both sides of the aisle are fully engaged in helping fight Medicare fraud - this is a completely non-partisan issue. The link I copied is to a news story from two days ago involving a real case from Miami - where a fraudster is accused in criminal court of funneling millions in Medicare funds to banks in Cuba. Maybe YOU want to play politics with this issue, but I don't know any serious folks who look at this as a political football at all.
Yeah, I'm running 2.3.6, and its supposed to be a 1 GHz Snapdragon on this thing. Maybe Firefox doesn't play nice with the Snapdragon, I don't know. According to Wikipedia, I'm probably running the armv7 processor instruction set on it. It's an older, cheaper phone, but slick as hell and runs amazing apps. I hope Mozilla makes it work on these chip sets in November - that would be great to try. If I don't buy one of those Note 2's next week, that is -- man those are some cool looking monsters.
You are right - and maybe I should go slap down a few Benjamins and upgrade my Android phone so that this ONE browser would work. However, there are over 15 web browsers I can add in the Google Play store right now - but not Firefox? C'mon Mozilla - pull it together.
If only Firefox worked with the several hundred million smart phones and tablets running the older versions of Android, then this would be about 1000% more useful. I can watch TV and movies on my Samsung Android phone, I can stream all kinds of music, I can run my desktop computer remotely from it, I can learn to speak and write Chinese, and I can make free international phone calls on it via my Vonage account. But I can't run the Firefox browser. I would say "WTF is your problem Mozilla???", but that just seems so unprofessional.
Starship Troopers and the Mobile Infantry - here we come. Now all we need are better suits, pocket atomic hand-grenades, a one-world corporate-government, and an alien race to fight against.
I heard there was a little button thingey you could click to run it without Java. And I heard there was a website called "portableapps" that has portable versions of OOo and LO that you can put on a thumbdrive and run on any computer. I heard all that - but I'm quite sure its all lies - nasty, nasty lies.
I was an OpenOffice fanatic for a number of years, but about 3 years ago Calc killed one of my spreadsheets I had been working on for a week. Like an idiot, I had not been saving frequent incremental drafts, so I lost nearly all the data, and a 1 week project turned into a 2 week project. Since that time, I've learned my lesson to save a new draft copy of an office document after every few hours of work. I've also switched to doing most of my document work in MS Office, as I found it more stable. However, I still keep a copy of LibreOffice on my system at all times, and I do find it much more useful for certain activities, such as importing and exporting a wider variety of file types, working with.csv files, etc. But, I still recall opening that empty spreadsheet after a week's work as the dark day my unwavering love for OOo died a miserable death.
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OK thanks -- and I see that Android uses SurfaceFlinger as the compositing manager for the frame buffer screen, rather than using the X11 server for compositing. But it appears from what I am reading and what you are saying that SurfaceFlinger doesn't really replace X11 server - it is a tool for managing compositing in a completely different manner. In that case, I've got to agree that Wayland would suddenly become a very important compositor protocol for any distro such as Ubuntu which seeks to make a real dent in the popular desktop-OS marketplace. Any compositor protocol which would create a similar graphical experience as Android would be highly desirable. Once again, however, it seems to me that if Android could be made to work on the Desktop, most problems would be solved already without spending several years ironing out the kinks in a new compositor protocol. An added advantage to Desktop Android would be the vast market of Android Apps, along with the enormous built-in base of experienced users.
You are absolutely correct on all points. Its a shame that graphics support for Linux has been treated so poorly by so many companies for such a long time. Once again, it points to the clear need for a Desktop version of Android -- with the superior graphics performance and the enormous number of apps, it would be an instant game-changer in the PC market.
Agreed - I guess its just the money poured into Android, and the urgency by Google and partners to keep pace with the competition from Apple. Too bad we still don't have a version of Desktop Android - I think it would be a very useful alternative, and quite popular.
You are correct to an extent - I run Linux, and am able to administer my work stations and optimize performance for my tasks, but I am by no means a developer. I guess that's why I asked the question - I really don't understand why there is such a noticeable difference.
Samsung Android phone is very nice - I log it on to my home wireless network, and get better youtube and live TV performance than on any of my laptops or desktops. So strange to me though - seems like the laptops and desktops have far more system resources.
I'm just talking about my personal experience. I often have dual-booted on the same system over the years, and right now I have two hard drives on my workstation - one that boots into Linux, one that boots into Windows. The difference in graphics rendering between Linux and Windows on the same equipment has always been clear - Windows has always handled graphics-intensive work much more smoothly. So why are graphics under Android so shockingly vivid and smooth?
I continue to run Linux because it can run circles around Windows for similar processor-intensive work - for example, I do a lot of OCR of scanned documents. On a large batch, I can get the OCR done in half the time under Linux compared with Windows.
I agree that the artwork is much better, but the responsiveness under Android is also clearly better, fonts are much nicer, videos and games play smoothly and flawlessly. Hell - my Android phone puts my Linux workstation with its $200 nVidia graphics card to shame.
I've used various Linux distros for 13+ years, and have always been disappointed in the horrible desktop graphics. Compared to a Windows machine, a comparable Linux rig is normally a miserable graphics experience. I was shocked the first time I got my hands on a Xoom tablet - the graphics are by FAR one of the best features of the Android platform. I can't for the life of me understand how there can be such an extreme difference between graphics in desktop linux distros compared to the gorgeous and snappy graphics under Android. And I'm not even running garbage graphic cards - one of my machines has a very modern nVidia card that plays all the latest games under Windows, but still handles poorly on Linux. From a technical perspective, I can't understand how there could be such an absurd difference, other than that the Android kernel is a fork, and clearly the Android kernel developers are far more concerned about creating a pleasant and useful graphical experience?
Samsung delivery drivers can't find where to drop off the monitors when they use the GPS on their iPhones
Most thieves simply use the phone until it gets disconnected, then throw it away and steal another one. Others sell them used on Ebay and Craigslist - once they get your money, they don't really care that you can't get service with it. The FCC is considering requiring the carriers to brick phones that are reported stolen, but that doesn't stop any of the above from happening. Smart thieves are stealing your personal data off your phone and re-selling that for a few extra bucks, or selling batches of them to foreign countries.
So - the scammers are in business for 4-6 months on average before they come up on someone's radar for investigation. The investigation and following the money trail takes at least a month - maybe two. File a complaint, and voila - a month later, Visa and MC are shuttting down the scammer's merchant account.
Well - guess what? Most fraudsters shut down their operations and start a new one every 6 months on average. So - if it takes you 6-9 months to find and shut down their merchant account, you haven't accomplished anything really. They already made all the money they were planning to, and have already set up their next site and account. And, since there is almost zero capital investment required to set up a bogus payment website, these guys are making almost 100% pure profit for the time period that they had originally intended to. Also, they are re-sellling all the credit cards they process, and making money on the back-end.
What in the world does Miranda have to do with this case? Does everyone understand that the term "Miranda" refers to a specific Supreme Court case that dealt with the rights of persons who were placed under arrest, and where prosecutors wanted to bring their statements to the police as evidence against them into the case? Miranda has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with the statements of a deceased person who was never arrested and who is not facing prosecution. The ONLY person who could raise a Miranda issue in this case would be Zimmerman's attorney, on behalf of his client. C'mon people - don't be completely ignorant of the basics of the law - it will only hurt your chances for success in life.
1. From the article description: "The sad fact is that so much money is being spent, no one can even keep count".
2. From an NPR report dated October 11, 2007: "There's a nationwide crime epidemic going on that rakes in $35 billion or more each year. Exactly how much is being stolen is impossible to say, because the federal government doesn't try to measure it. It's Medicare fraud." http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=15178883
3. See the similarity? I do.
4. From the Miami Herald newspaper two days ago: "An offshore remittance company called Caribbean Transfers financed a complex money-laundering ring that moved more than $30 million in stolen Medicare money from South Florida into Cuba’s banking system, federal authorities said Thursday." Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/18/3056554/feds-remittance-firm-at-center.html#storylink=cpy
5. Is this so hard to see the relationship? Do you see that I'm not politicking?
1. I don't have an agenda. Healthcare fraud examination is my job - I don't know about "almost every government program". 2. I was referring to a specific, timely news article about a Miami criminal case involving Medicare funds leaving the US and showing up in Cuban banks 3. What you are saying regarding private insurance admin expenses is very interesting. Do you have some special insight into the problem? I'm like Ross Perot - I'm all ears. Contacting me is simple - my name + gmail.
The real problem appears to be that they are laying their data out over iOS6-generated maps.
You are asking if I was paid to post this? No, but I, like thousands of other fraud examiners, am paid to track down fraud in the Medicare and Medicaid programs. It is an enormous problem - very real. I don't have a right-wing or a left-wing agenda at all - politicians from both sides of the aisle are fully engaged in helping fight Medicare fraud - this is a completely non-partisan issue. The link I copied is to a news story from two days ago involving a real case from Miami - where a fraudster is accused in criminal court of funneling millions in Medicare funds to banks in Cuba. Maybe YOU want to play politics with this issue, but I don't know any serious folks who look at this as a political football at all.
"The sad fact is that so much money is being spent, no one can even keep count." Except in the US, guys like this are sending millions in Medicare money to Cuba to give Castro's economy a much-needed boost: http://www.bellinghamherald.com/2012/10/18/2734149/laundering-ring-moved-medicare.html
Very nice - that worked! I had to go with the "Aurora" package - but its humming along now. Thanks!
Yeah, I'm running 2.3.6, and its supposed to be a 1 GHz Snapdragon on this thing. Maybe Firefox doesn't play nice with the Snapdragon, I don't know. According to Wikipedia, I'm probably running the armv7 processor instruction set on it. It's an older, cheaper phone, but slick as hell and runs amazing apps. I hope Mozilla makes it work on these chip sets in November - that would be great to try. If I don't buy one of those Note 2's next week, that is -- man those are some cool looking monsters.
Chrome requires 4.0 to run and both require hardware acceleration
Well, good point. Maybe its time to go get that shiny new Galaxy Note 2 I've been lusting after...
You are right - and maybe I should go slap down a few Benjamins and upgrade my Android phone so that this ONE browser would work. However, there are over 15 web browsers I can add in the Google Play store right now - but not Firefox? C'mon Mozilla - pull it together.
If only Firefox worked with the several hundred million smart phones and tablets running the older versions of Android, then this would be about 1000% more useful. I can watch TV and movies on my Samsung Android phone, I can stream all kinds of music, I can run my desktop computer remotely from it, I can learn to speak and write Chinese, and I can make free international phone calls on it via my Vonage account. But I can't run the Firefox browser. I would say "WTF is your problem Mozilla???", but that just seems so unprofessional.
Starship Troopers and the Mobile Infantry - here we come. Now all we need are better suits, pocket atomic hand-grenades, a one-world corporate-government, and an alien race to fight against.
I heard there was a little button thingey you could click to run it without Java. And I heard there was a website called "portableapps" that has portable versions of OOo and LO that you can put on a thumbdrive and run on any computer. I heard all that - but I'm quite sure its all lies - nasty, nasty lies.
I was an OpenOffice fanatic for a number of years, but about 3 years ago Calc killed one of my spreadsheets I had been working on for a week. Like an idiot, I had not been saving frequent incremental drafts, so I lost nearly all the data, and a 1 week project turned into a 2 week project. Since that time, I've learned my lesson to save a new draft copy of an office document after every few hours of work. I've also switched to doing most of my document work in MS Office, as I found it more stable. However, I still keep a copy of LibreOffice on my system at all times, and I do find it much more useful for certain activities, such as importing and exporting a wider variety of file types, working with .csv files, etc. But, I still recall opening that empty spreadsheet after a week's work as the dark day my unwavering love for OOo died a miserable death.