I have a pretty good imagination. I can imagine the hotel that blacklists him getting negative publicity, and having their reputation tarnished to the point where they also need $1 million, and so on.
There are plenty of people whose lives are actually at risk. I think I'd rather my company's name show up randomly in one Isis video rather than spent one single day in Iraq or Syria. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve anything. I'm saying he doesn't deserve what it takes an average American to earn in half their lifetime. The family of a soldier that actually dies in combat only gets like half a million.
So yes, I think twice as much as what a dead serviceman's family gets is a little too much for maybe but probably not incurring some actual risk to your life.
And think about all the people who already did business with him. They were customers of a business that supported Isis. How will their reputation ever be restored? They should all get $1M as well.
What about me? I had an Isis (International Secret Intelligence Service) T-shirt that I bought before Isis (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria) existed. There are photos of me in this T-shirt all over social media. My reputation can never be restored to its former state. As much as I may try to explain to people that it's a different Isis, there will always be some dumb Fox News viewers that will think I support Isis. Do I get a million dollars from someone?
There is actually a Top Gear episode that shows a Toyota Hilux surviving after being on top of a building that is blown up. All it needed was to have a battery cable reconnected and it drove away from the demolition site. I don't know if Isis watches Top Gear, but if they do, this is a pretty good advertisement for a potential customer that is around a lot of explosions.
I think it would be difficult to lose $1M in business over this. There is the set of people who have seen this video. There is the subset of those people who are motivated enough to connect that truck to a particular business. There is a further subset of people dumb enough to assume that this company necessarily supports Isis and/or is not able/willing to discover that the previous owner of this truck is not an Isis supporter. Then there are the set of people who are this company's current/future customers. What is the intersection of these 2 very small sets of people?
You are making statements that are incorrect due to not being aware of the subject matter
False, I am making statements that you apparently miscomprehend. This is quite evident from your replies.
trying to pretend that your failure does not exist and that I am at fault for not believing in some fantasy you are spinning is somewhat delusional. Why are you pretending to be delusional after a simple suggestion to read some of the subject matter?
What is really funny here is some sort of hillbilly is suggesting that I do not understand English.
That's what someone who doesn't understand what I am saying would say.
Why is the 3d layer even depicted in this graphical model of wayland? Because it's showing you how 3d is handled when you use wayland (the protocol and compositor). Wayland (the model) includes descriptions of what wayland (the compositor) does, as well as what it doesn't do.
I realize this is all pretty abstract and must be very confusing for you.
It will be very interesting to see how you completely mis-comprehend this comment.
It's an accurate assessment considering you keep failing to comprehend what I am saying, despite the fact that it is actually not that hard to understand.
While the Philips Hue system is based on open technologies we are not able to ensure all products from other brands are tested and fully interoperable with all of our software updates
Now they are able to ensure that all products from other brands are completely non-interoperable.
The point is that once the "gig economy" takes over you won't have any choice about participating.
Obviously *if* the "gig economy" takes over *all* the jobs, then you won't have any choice but to have a gig economy job. In every other scenario, you will have a choice. You might as well say, if hoverboards take over transportation, you will not have any choice but to use hoverboards. I reject the premise that the "gig economy" will be so dominant as to eliminate all other modes of employment.
Your comment is about as useful as saying to a child chimney sweep in the 1850s that they are perfectly free to start their own business instead.
If you were really going to use this analogy properly to try to characterize my position, it would be "Your comment is about as useful as saying to a child chimney sweep in the 1850s that they are perfectly free to get a job at a factory."
The fact is that plenty of normal jobs exist out there. Nobody is forced to be an uber driver or a gigster software developer. Go ask a bunch of uber drivers why they don;t get a job at walmart where they will have benefits and stability, and they will tell you that they'd rather work as an uber driver (i.e. they are choosing to be an uber driver out of all the choices they have). You can do the reverse with walmart employees.
So what's your answer to solving the problem of child chimney sweeps in the 1850's? Make child chimney sweeping illegal, so the kids go from 1 choice to 0 choices?
Yes, about six months ago not even widgets - getting the idea that it is a framebuffer and other people have to do the other stuff yet or do I need another six posts to keep on writing what I put in the first?
I think you are confusing "not getting it" with "finding what you keep repeating to be irrelevant".
There is no Wayland 3D model.
There is a wayland 3d model (e.g. the way in which 3d is handled if you are running wayland), which is to have 3d bypass wayland. As oppsoed to the X 3d model.
That's what I mean. Until enlightenment got behind it there were no widget toolkits that worked with wayland so the developer had to do that as well - rendering their own icons, menus etc onto the 2D canvas, trapping their own events etc.
So before there was any support for wayland, there wasn't any support for wayland?
That's like saying company X made the first LGA 1155 motherboard, you had to make your own motherboard for Intel Sandy Bridge processors.
To get back to your point, it's not "making the 3d rendering chain more efficient" because it's ignoring 3D by design.
Cutting out a middle man is a perfectly legitimate way to make something more efficient. Wayland not only "doesn't do 3d", it establishes a model where 3d rendering is more efficient.
Imagine if X where developed after wayland. Would it make sense to say "X handles 3d more efficiently than Wayland because wayland ignores 3d"? No. The Wayland 3d model is more efficient than the X 3d model, and this is true even if the wayland compositor doesn't handle 3d.
What I am saying is that even if a bad developer and a good developer are charging the same price to finish a project, the good developer will probably make more money over time because he/she will finish the project in less time, and generate better code.
A good developer could probably make more money than a bad developer even if they are charging a fraction of the price to finish projects.
If a customer was paying per hour, they might have to make this calculation of paying a higher $/hour but maybe finishing sooner vs. paying a lower $/hr a potentially less qualified developer, and potentially paying more over the long run. If you are paying for a whole project, all that goes out the window.
I think a customer choosing a developer offering the lowest price for a project, has a pretty good chance of getting one of the better developers. A developer able to complete a project in a few days might be willing to charge like $5000, where an under qualified developer might need to charge $10000 just to be making minimum wage given how long it might take them.
The real solution is to decouple healthcare from employment though. Make healthcare a function of a single-payer system and suddenly both the employer and the employee are much freer.
Absolutely. This also removes much of the disincentives for hiring older people or people with medical problems.
I suspect that in the case of entites like the one discussed in the article, they appeal to entry-level programmers that don't have a lot of experience to use to get hired, and who are still nominally dependent on their parents and haven't really ventured out on their own yet. They can afford to be intermittendly unemployed and they might still receive benefits through other means. That's a luxury that most of us don't have.
I suspect that this is largely true, but low skill (e.g. entry level, or just bad) programmers are probably going to have a much harder time making a living doing this kind of work than an experienced programmer, given that they are paid by the project rather than hourly. I imagine the stress of finishing projects fast enough to earn a decent living would be a pretty inhospitable environment for those programmers. If it's possible to make a decent living for low skilled programmers, then it would also be possible for a high skilled programmer to make a fortune.
Whether a company is exploiting you has nothing to do with whether they offer benefits or stability. A company is exploiting you if they are under compensating you for your labor and skill.
I can't even hire a nanny without becoming an employer who provides benefits like paid time off and payroll taxes, etc. I am not an employer, I don;t want to do any of that shit. I just want to pay for someone to watch my kid while I am working.
Whether I am working as a contractor or as an employee, it is my responsibility to ensure that I am being properly compensated, and if not, asking for a raise or finding a new job.
Doesn't sound like a fair deal to me.
Then don't participate.
Not sure why everyone is so keen to participate in stuff like this.
Me neither, but that's for them to decide.
The interesting thing about software development is that good software developers can write good code in less time than a bad developer can write bad code.
A job that pays per project rather than hourly might be horribly exploitative for a bad software developer who needs to spend a month completing a project and another 2 months trying to fix all the bugs, and it might be very lucrative for a good software developer who only needs to spend 2 days doing it correctly.
I don't know what you mean by "widget", but if you are referring to a widget (as in a QWidget or a Motif widget), then that would be provided by whatever widget toolkit you are using. I don't think you'd be writing your own widgets in any scenario (unless you work for Qt).
I should have answered the question more directly - it's not doing the 3D rendering at all and dumps a 2D canvas to the screen so the current drivers are as good as it gets for that step.
I don't know why you still feel as though this is not clear.
As for "more efficient" - there's not a lot of X that gets in the way between OpenGL and the graphics card anyway.
The X extension is getting in the way. Clearly you feel like this is "not a lot", but all these little things add up. As a software engineer, I can appreciate the benefits of good design. Those benefits can be large or small, and they can be not only in terms of performance but also in terms maintainability or usability. Providing a better API for application developers leads to software and ultimately a better user experience.
I am saying is that I am excited about getting to use the next generation display framework, and I hope AMD graphics drivers are in a better state when when that happens.
I don't think this claim (being a claim about something I am excited about and hoping for) is even possible to disprove.
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This is America, surely I could sue the makers of the shirt, or facebook. You just have to have a little creativity.
I have a pretty good imagination. I can imagine the hotel that blacklists him getting negative publicity, and having their reputation tarnished to the point where they also need $1 million, and so on.
There are plenty of people whose lives are actually at risk. I think I'd rather my company's name show up randomly in one Isis video rather than spent one single day in Iraq or Syria. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve anything. I'm saying he doesn't deserve what it takes an average American to earn in half their lifetime. The family of a soldier that actually dies in combat only gets like half a million.
So yes, I think twice as much as what a dead serviceman's family gets is a little too much for maybe but probably not incurring some actual risk to your life.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
And think about all the people who already did business with him. They were customers of a business that supported Isis. How will their reputation ever be restored? They should all get $1M as well.
As I have said in this thread. I think it's a perfectly non-frivolous lawsuit. I just think the dollar amount is ridiculous.
What about me? I had an Isis (International Secret Intelligence Service) T-shirt that I bought before Isis (Islamic State in Iraq and Syria) existed. There are photos of me in this T-shirt all over social media. My reputation can never be restored to its former state. As much as I may try to explain to people that it's a different Isis, there will always be some dumb Fox News viewers that will think I support Isis. Do I get a million dollars from someone?
There is actually a Top Gear episode that shows a Toyota Hilux surviving after being on top of a building that is blown up. All it needed was to have a battery cable reconnected and it drove away from the demolition site. I don't know if Isis watches Top Gear, but if they do, this is a pretty good advertisement for a potential customer that is around a lot of explosions.
I think it would be difficult to lose $1M in business over this. There is the set of people who have seen this video. There is the subset of those people who are motivated enough to connect that truck to a particular business. There is a further subset of people dumb enough to assume that this company necessarily supports Isis and/or is not able/willing to discover that the previous owner of this truck is not an Isis supporter. Then there are the set of people who are this company's current/future customers. What is the intersection of these 2 very small sets of people?
The amount being sued for doesn't make it frivolous. The amount is just ridiculously high on an otherwise non-frivolous lawsuit.
Why did you misrepresent OpenGL as Wayland?
^^^ more evidence you can't understand English.
You are making statements that are incorrect due to not being aware of the subject matter
False, I am making statements that you apparently miscomprehend. This is quite evident from your replies.
trying to pretend that your failure does not exist and that I am at fault for not believing in some fantasy you are spinning is somewhat delusional. Why are you pretending to be delusional after a simple suggestion to read some of the subject matter? What is really funny here is some sort of hillbilly is suggesting that I do not understand English.
That's what someone who doesn't understand what I am saying would say.
Why is the 3d layer even depicted in this graphical model of wayland? Because it's showing you how 3d is handled when you use wayland (the protocol and compositor). Wayland (the model) includes descriptions of what wayland (the compositor) does, as well as what it doesn't do.
I realize this is all pretty abstract and must be very confusing for you.
It will be very interesting to see how you completely mis-comprehend this comment.
It's an accurate assessment considering you keep failing to comprehend what I am saying, despite the fact that it is actually not that hard to understand.
While the Philips Hue system is based on open technologies we are not able to ensure all products from other brands are tested and fully interoperable with all of our software updates
Now they are able to ensure that all products from other brands are completely non-interoperable.
The point is that once the "gig economy" takes over you won't have any choice about participating.
Obviously *if* the "gig economy" takes over *all* the jobs, then you won't have any choice but to have a gig economy job. In every other scenario, you will have a choice. You might as well say, if hoverboards take over transportation, you will not have any choice but to use hoverboards. I reject the premise that the "gig economy" will be so dominant as to eliminate all other modes of employment.
Your comment is about as useful as saying to a child chimney sweep in the 1850s that they are perfectly free to start their own business instead.
If you were really going to use this analogy properly to try to characterize my position, it would be "Your comment is about as useful as saying to a child chimney sweep in the 1850s that they are perfectly free to get a job at a factory."
The fact is that plenty of normal jobs exist out there. Nobody is forced to be an uber driver or a gigster software developer. Go ask a bunch of uber drivers why they don;t get a job at walmart where they will have benefits and stability, and they will tell you that they'd rather work as an uber driver (i.e. they are choosing to be an uber driver out of all the choices they have). You can do the reverse with walmart employees.
So what's your answer to solving the problem of child chimney sweeps in the 1850's? Make child chimney sweeping illegal, so the kids go from 1 choice to 0 choices?
Yes, about six months ago not even widgets - getting the idea that it is a framebuffer and other people have to do the other stuff yet or do I need another six posts to keep on writing what I put in the first?
I think you are confusing "not getting it" with "finding what you keep repeating to be irrelevant".
There is no Wayland 3D model.
There is a wayland 3d model (e.g. the way in which 3d is handled if you are running wayland), which is to have 3d bypass wayland. As oppsoed to the X 3d model.
I think the real problem is that you don't seem to fully comprehend English.
That's what I mean. Until enlightenment got behind it there were no widget toolkits that worked with wayland so the developer had to do that as well - rendering their own icons, menus etc onto the 2D canvas, trapping their own events etc.
So before there was any support for wayland, there wasn't any support for wayland?
That's like saying company X made the first LGA 1155 motherboard, you had to make your own motherboard for Intel Sandy Bridge processors.
To get back to your point, it's not "making the 3d rendering chain more efficient" because it's ignoring 3D by design.
Cutting out a middle man is a perfectly legitimate way to make something more efficient. Wayland not only "doesn't do 3d", it establishes a model where 3d rendering is more efficient.
Imagine if X where developed after wayland. Would it make sense to say "X handles 3d more efficiently than Wayland because wayland ignores 3d"? No. The Wayland 3d model is more efficient than the X 3d model, and this is true even if the wayland compositor doesn't handle 3d.
What I am saying is that even if a bad developer and a good developer are charging the same price to finish a project, the good developer will probably make more money over time because he/she will finish the project in less time, and generate better code.
A good developer could probably make more money than a bad developer even if they are charging a fraction of the price to finish projects.
If a customer was paying per hour, they might have to make this calculation of paying a higher $/hour but maybe finishing sooner vs. paying a lower $/hr a potentially less qualified developer, and potentially paying more over the long run. If you are paying for a whole project, all that goes out the window.
I think a customer choosing a developer offering the lowest price for a project, has a pretty good chance of getting one of the better developers. A developer able to complete a project in a few days might be willing to charge like $5000, where an under qualified developer might need to charge $10000 just to be making minimum wage given how long it might take them.
The real solution is to decouple healthcare from employment though. Make healthcare a function of a single-payer system and suddenly both the employer and the employee are much freer.
Absolutely. This also removes much of the disincentives for hiring older people or people with medical problems.
I suspect that in the case of entites like the one discussed in the article, they appeal to entry-level programmers that don't have a lot of experience to use to get hired, and who are still nominally dependent on their parents and haven't really ventured out on their own yet. They can afford to be intermittendly unemployed and they might still receive benefits through other means. That's a luxury that most of us don't have.
I suspect that this is largely true, but low skill (e.g. entry level, or just bad) programmers are probably going to have a much harder time making a living doing this kind of work than an experienced programmer, given that they are paid by the project rather than hourly. I imagine the stress of finishing projects fast enough to earn a decent living would be a pretty inhospitable environment for those programmers. If it's possible to make a decent living for low skilled programmers, then it would also be possible for a high skilled programmer to make a fortune.
Whether a company is exploiting you has nothing to do with whether they offer benefits or stability. A company is exploiting you if they are under compensating you for your labor and skill.
I can't even hire a nanny without becoming an employer who provides benefits like paid time off and payroll taxes, etc. I am not an employer, I don;t want to do any of that shit. I just want to pay for someone to watch my kid while I am working.
Whether I am working as a contractor or as an employee, it is my responsibility to ensure that I am being properly compensated, and if not, asking for a raise or finding a new job.
Doesn't sound like a fair deal to me.
Then don't participate.
Not sure why everyone is so keen to participate in stuff like this.
Me neither, but that's for them to decide.
The interesting thing about software development is that good software developers can write good code in less time than a bad developer can write bad code.
A job that pays per project rather than hourly might be horribly exploitative for a bad software developer who needs to spend a month completing a project and another 2 months trying to fix all the bugs, and it might be very lucrative for a good software developer who only needs to spend 2 days doing it correctly.
I don't know what you mean by "widget", but if you are referring to a widget (as in a QWidget or a Motif widget), then that would be provided by whatever widget toolkit you are using. I don't think you'd be writing your own widgets in any scenario (unless you work for Qt).
I should have answered the question more directly - it's not doing the 3D rendering at all and dumps a 2D canvas to the screen so the current drivers are as good as it gets for that step.
I don't know why you still feel as though this is not clear.
As for "more efficient" - there's not a lot of X that gets in the way between OpenGL and the graphics card anyway.
The X extension is getting in the way. Clearly you feel like this is "not a lot", but all these little things add up. As a software engineer, I can appreciate the benefits of good design. Those benefits can be large or small, and they can be not only in terms of performance but also in terms maintainability or usability. Providing a better API for application developers leads to software and ultimately a better user experience.
I am saying is that I am excited about getting to use the next generation display framework, and I hope AMD graphics drivers are in a better state when when that happens.
I don't think this claim (being a claim about something I am excited about and hoping for) is even possible to disprove.
I am not sure if English is your first language, but you should probably read this article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...