My next question is, why not patch the linux source version to make a freebsd binary directly? Why compile the linux version just so you can compile a freebsd version? Sounds like a lot of hoop jumping. I had to do it too to get 1.3.1 working. Now I have to do it again for 1.4.1?
Granted.. it uses/usr/ports, it's a lengthly process for the 'puter to do. I think make world is faster?
It's funny. Sometimes a fix for one system will comepletely break another system. Now granted, it's not about flawed code, just flawed processes being "fixed".
For instance, i can write a function f(int a) that only uses positive integers for say, finding square roots. Now what if i change the function, without modifying the prototype for dealing with imaginary numbers?
No harm, right? But what if i expect f to break in a certian way? Sometimes the breaking of a piece can sometiems be considered fine, and working, if its expected.
Ack, I could never use them. I keep forgetting what is on what desktop. It's nce to have everything in eye view.
What about apps that change by themselves, due to network status, like chat or email programs? See! My im window is blinking while i'm typing this. I can see that it's nothing since I dont' have moz maximized and can answer it later:) And it didn't pop up, it was always opened.
So you can use two apps at once? So you can see one thing and work on another?
Granted, it's not for everyone in the universe. But it's nice to have my email, im and web browsing all visible. No, I can't see much of my desktop, but that's ok. At least I don't have to do a full context switch just to shuffle things around to go to other apps.
Ok, back on topic. So stop maximizing. The only reason to maximize is if you have "large content". Say you have someone who wrote code that line breaks at, 300 chars. Or you are working on a very large picture. On a 15" monitor, hell yeah, maximize. But if you are on a 21" monitor, you may not need to.
It's a race between users and "content writers". It's probably the best reason to code to 80 (or 100) char line width. You can have multiple windows on your desktop. Same/w web pages. If everyone designs for 800x600, my 1600x1200 resolution is great. I can view two web pages at once.
I kinda like OSX for it's clunky maximize features. It stops me from maximizing and using my desktop space as a finite resource. As a coder, I can now restrict myself to 100char width and have, two or three windows open near side-by-side, without having to maximize.
We're just some guys trying to post a fun mix of the serious, the important, and the entertaining. Lighten up!
Sorry for a second seperate post to ya', but when you play monopoly, you hope the banker doesn't start screwing up with the money counting. Otherwise, it's no longer fun.
Granted, slashdot and your crew do an excellent job of actually providing a service, but what happens when the banker screws up too much? People just quit the game and play elsewhere.
'careful Mr. Taco. 600k accounts is a big population to keep happy. It's a tough job. You know that. But all it takes is 1 user to lead your subscribers away to some other game.
Yeah, it's great that you guys are in the trenches. Fine, it's nice to see things before hand. But by being human, shouldn't you be constantly be evolving and learning? A simple spell/grammar check in word will take a minute of your time. A system to check prior urls and actually taking 10 minutes to make sure urls weren't submmited before would save you constant pain of dupes.
Only reason slashdot and kuro5hin are so popular, are they did it first. Same goes for verisign and domain names. Think anybody wants to use their system which is err prone? Same for register.com. First registrar to do most of the tld's out there. Godaddy and other registrars are slowly eating away their competition.
Who is eating away your competition? Are they trying to be better human by making less mistakes? The features you are adding are neat and all. But shouldn't you guys try to bring up quality on all fronts?
[Any body with an ounce of integrity would] not put backdoors in the software they create. I look at this way, give the client what they want and don't worry about anything else.
Why open yourself up to potentially losing a client or just looking like an asshole just so you can do something that your client probably doesn't want you to do.
When the world is filled with assholes, sometimes you gotta be one too. When you are a little fish in a big pond, you gotta play dirty jsut so you can survive vs worrying about integrety. 'cause after all, if you are out of biz due to too many people stiffing you on thie bill, there won't be much integrety to be had.
If you think popular music is crap now, wait until this business model becomes successful. Artists will be pressured to have every song on thier album a hit to maximize downloads.
Wait.. wait wait wait. If someone likes it, it must be good for something. Granted, we all grow older and wiser, to learn what "good music" really is. So if every song is good, whether it is because I liked it for the arist or because I'm naive is good! I liked greenday about 10 years ago. I still love 'em. Good stuff. And about 80% of their tracks, I'd say is definitely worth downloading.
What if every artist was a greenday and not a one/two hit wonder.
RIAA? How about other companies as well? Take MS. MS typically would just buy out Liquid if they wanted their own Music stuff. Of course, people at Liquid would less likely benefit from a buyout.
Apple on the other hand is venturing into something new in this case. Not that apple has never pulled an MS, that isnt' the arguement. The argument is, big companies, with big money, should either
- improve on their existing products - deliver new products the public asks for (not prices) - deliver new products the public never knew they needed
When I think about it, I wonder if we haven't gone into a complete dog-eat-dog economy, where it's not company vs company, but company sees an interest and not only joins the frey, but uses its weight to kill off everyone else.
Walking across the office to get to communicate with a person.
Looking up a phone number, then dialing, to communicate with a person.
Opening an IM window to communicate with a person.
now mind you, I'm not measuring the time it takes to type out a question or hold a conversation. Just getting to them is faster than ever.
Mind you, you also have the value of not having to tear yourself completely away from your work. Phones can do this, but it's possible to dial without taking your attn from the screen. Walking over? Forget it. Total context switch.
I've had to scold coworkers who work 10 feet away to not use IM.. that is.. unless I really hate them.
His point is, AOL didn't invent something like, mp3, or the merge sort, true type fonts or X11. They took a basic net connection, a little db management for buddy lists and a lot of servers to manage connections. No innovation here.
Right. But if he's not involved with patching certain errs, then he can't redirect his own priorities. That's overstepping your bounds. If he can, then he should.
So it's not a waste of time if his manager is telling him, he needs to do this. So answer his question.
I won't go off you for this, but dude. Just because one thing is broken doesn't mean you should leave other things broken.
Also, it's called due dilligence. It's doing your job. If you can call in for the information, and you inform the proper people, AND you can't do anymore, then it's your duty to secure your section and that alone. If you can secure both, you secure both.
Stressing over HTTPS, if telnet is open with no passwords or everything is secure is a software engineer's duty to his position.
A friend of mine has DSL, using an obsd firewall. He has a bunch of servers behind it. He opened up his firewall to a particular port to some software he installed. They ran an IRC bot that masq's as sshd.
He did a make world to replace the binaries last I heard. I'd've tar'd up the drive to an image, and restore a backup/reinstall.
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I live near a subway. I resent that. It gets really noisy at nite.
My next question is, why not patch the linux source version to make a freebsd binary directly? Why compile the linux version just so you can compile a freebsd version? Sounds like a lot of hoop jumping. I had to do it too to get 1.3.1 working. Now I have to do it again for 1.4.1?
/usr/ports, it's a lengthly process for the 'puter to do. I think make world is faster?
Granted.. it uses
It's funny. Sometimes a fix for one system will comepletely break another system. Now granted, it's not about flawed code, just flawed processes being "fixed".
For instance, i can write a function f(int a) that only uses positive integers for say, finding square roots. Now what if i change the function, without modifying the prototype for dealing with imaginary numbers?
No harm, right? But what if i expect f to break in a certian way? Sometimes the breaking of a piece can sometiems be considered fine, and working, if its expected.
Ack, I could never use them. I keep forgetting what is on what desktop. It's nce to have everything in eye view.
:) And it didn't pop up, it was always opened.
What about apps that change by themselves, due to network status, like chat or email programs? See! My im window is blinking while i'm typing this. I can see that it's nothing since I dont' have moz maximized and can answer it later
SO we stil need to bootstrap off of linux's jdk binary? When will we have a version that's independent of the linux binaries?
So you can use two apps at once? So you can see one thing and work on another?
Granted, it's not for everyone in the universe. But it's nice to have my email, im and web browsing all visible. No, I can't see much of my desktop, but that's ok. At least I don't have to do a full context switch just to shuffle things around to go to other apps.
"Hello.. I've waited here fro you.. everlong.."
/w web pages. If everyone designs for 800x600, my 1600x1200 resolution is great. I can view two web pages at once.
Ok, back on topic. So stop maximizing. The only reason to maximize is if you have "large content". Say you have someone who wrote code that line breaks at, 300 chars. Or you are working on a very large picture. On a 15" monitor, hell yeah, maximize. But if you are on a 21" monitor, you may not need to.
It's a race between users and "content writers". It's probably the best reason to code to 80 (or 100) char line width. You can have multiple windows on your desktop. Same
I kinda like OSX for it's clunky maximize features. It stops me from maximizing and using my desktop space as a finite resource. As a coder, I can now restrict myself to 100char width and have, two or three windows open near side-by-side, without having to maximize.
Hold on. Two wrongs don't make a right. Or is this a game of roshambo while wearing cups...
Yeah, but does your cable modem get hit by electricity with 5 months, every time? I'd say you are pretty unlucky or live in a "high shock area".
if you get hit by electricity even twice per year, you wind up saving $20. 10 for the 2 months you DON'T get hit.
Sorry for a second seperate post to ya', but when you play monopoly, you hope the banker doesn't start screwing up with the money counting. Otherwise, it's no longer fun.
Granted, slashdot and your crew do an excellent job of actually providing a service, but what happens when the banker screws up too much? People just quit the game and play elsewhere.
'careful Mr. Taco. 600k accounts is a big population to keep happy. It's a tough job. You know that. But all it takes is 1 user to lead your subscribers away to some other game.
Yeah, i'm full of.. analogies today.
Yeah, it's great that you guys are in the trenches. Fine, it's nice to see things before hand. But by being human, shouldn't you be constantly be evolving and learning? A simple spell/grammar check in word will take a minute of your time. A system to check prior urls and actually taking 10 minutes to make sure urls weren't submmited before would save you constant pain of dupes.
Only reason slashdot and kuro5hin are so popular, are they did it first. Same goes for verisign and domain names. Think anybody wants to use their system which is err prone? Same for register.com. First registrar to do most of the tld's out there. Godaddy and other registrars are slowly eating away their competition.
Who is eating away your competition? Are they trying to be better human by making less mistakes? The features you are adding are neat and all. But shouldn't you guys try to bring up quality on all fronts?
When the world is filled with assholes, sometimes you gotta be one too. When you are a little fish in a big pond, you gotta play dirty jsut so you can survive vs worrying about integrety. 'cause after all, if you are out of biz due to too many people stiffing you on thie bill, there won't be much integrety to be had.
Do they check this via it's int return? Or is this java where it just throws an exception.
I.R. Spinning off! I.R. Spinning off! [/joke]
Sorry.. had to try it again.
Wait.. wait wait wait. If someone likes it, it must be good for something. Granted, we all grow older and wiser, to learn what "good music" really is. So if every song is good, whether it is because I liked it for the arist or because I'm naive is good!
I liked greenday about 10 years ago. I still love 'em. Good stuff. And about 80% of their tracks, I'd say is definitely worth downloading.
What if every artist was a greenday and not a one/two hit wonder.
RIAA? How about other companies as well? Take MS. MS typically would just buy out Liquid if they wanted their own Music stuff. Of course, people at Liquid would less likely benefit from a buyout.
Apple on the other hand is venturing into something new in this case. Not that apple has never pulled an MS, that isnt' the arguement. The argument is, big companies, with big money, should either
- improve on their existing products
- deliver new products the public asks for (not prices)
- deliver new products the public never knew they needed
When I think about it, I wonder if we haven't gone into a complete dog-eat-dog economy, where it's not company vs company, but company sees an interest and not only joins the frey, but uses its weight to kill off everyone else.
No I haven't.
IRC and various scripts, I remember lice and phoenix, would tell you which of your friends were "online" if you set the prefs.
All AOL did was commercialize it so to speak. They integrated it into AOL and then extended it out onto AIM (or is that the other way around).
In honor of I R Baboon, when he and Weasle got their own show on Cartoon network. Ehem.
I R Spinning off! I R Spinning off!
It's funny. Laugh.
There have been times when I've made the phone call only because, while I type very fast, the loss of markers or live props is a hinderance.
Same ol' rule, +1 redundant: every tool for its job.
Depends. What's faster.
Walking across the office to get to communicate with a person.
Looking up a phone number, then dialing, to communicate with a person.
Opening an IM window to communicate with a person.
now mind you, I'm not measuring the time it takes to type out a question or hold a conversation. Just getting to them is faster than ever.
Mind you, you also have the value of not having to tear yourself completely away from your work. Phones can do this, but it's possible to dial without taking your attn from the screen. Walking over? Forget it. Total context switch.
I've had to scold coworkers who work 10 feet away to not use IM.. that is.. unless I really hate them.
His point is, AOL didn't invent something like, mp3, or the merge sort, true type fonts or X11. They took a basic net connection, a little db management for buddy lists and a lot of servers to manage connections. No innovation here.
Right. But if he's not involved with patching certain errs, then he can't redirect his own priorities. That's overstepping your bounds. If he can, then he should.
So it's not a waste of time if his manager is telling him, he needs to do this. So answer his question.
I won't go off you for this, but dude. Just because one thing is broken doesn't mean you should leave other things broken.
Also, it's called due dilligence. It's doing your job. If you can call in for the information, and you inform the proper people, AND you can't do anymore, then it's your duty to secure your section and that alone. If you can secure both, you secure both.
Stressing over HTTPS, if telnet is open with no passwords or everything is secure is a software engineer's duty to his position.
A friend of mine has DSL, using an obsd firewall. He has a bunch of servers behind it. He opened up his firewall to a particular port to some software he installed. They ran an IRC bot that masq's as sshd.
He did a make world to replace the binaries last I heard. I'd've tar'd up the drive to an image, and restore a backup/reinstall.
1/17th of what? Burst or constant stream? For simple web browsing, nothing grand, it should be enough.