Well, *ultimately* you'll want Evolution or Aethera(sp?) to be the client, since you're working on an open solution. And open source software could be made to be configurable that way (using seperate servers for different services).
No one's mentioned Borland's tools, but I think they'd fit the bill. Borland has great compiler technology, and it will compile and run cleanly across Linux and Windows (possibly with a few {$IFDEF}s). It has an I/O library that's as capable as C's (maybe a bit more wordy sometimes). Developing and debugging in Kylix is *much* quicker, in my experience, than using gcc/gdb. It's truly compiled, the compiler is lightning fast, and the integrated debugger is quite a bit more efficient than gdb based solutions.
I agree, this sucks. About 2 years ago, I switched from Western Digital to IBM as my favorite HD manufacturer. Hopefully someone will continue the Deskstars.
Since the playground swing I used has a pipe frame instead of a tree branch, this patent does not apply to my horizontal swinging done in grade school.
Read it a little more closely:
As is apparent to those of ordinary skill in the area of swinging, the chains could be replaced with ropes, cables, or the like, or the tree branch could be replaced with another substantially horizontal support such as a metal bar or pole.
ok, has anyone gotten the images to work in a Linux browser? I click on Images and it just shows a quarter of a page of large print text starting with "US Paten..." inside a weird frame.
Did that in Mozilla 0.9.9 and Netscape 4.78. Konqueror 2.2.2 just showed a block box.
You're right -- when one browses the Apache sites, it's AMAZING how much stuff they've done, most of which few people know about or appreciate.
Does anyone know of a good complete book on Apache, preferrably Apache 2 now that it's out, that covers most or all of these tools and puts it all together?
The ONLY problem is that it seems as though most Apache projects now use Java, which I could personally live without.
From what I recall reading, SVG was patented by someone else. I realize that W3C decided to not standardize patented technologies, which is definitely a good thing. That could make SVG NOT a web standard.
I was wondering the same thing, but I'm pretty sure Red Hat's installer will use USB keyboards. IIRC a friend of mine installed 7.0 with a USB KB. And he's a Linux newbie!
What I'm wondering about is the onboard video, sound, and ethernet. If that all works with Linux, this thing might be in my next box (of course, that could be a while, I'm still happy with my Athlon 700).
The alternative is regulating through code, but redefining the email standard so as to avoid SPAM would be problematic
Hey maybe you're actually on to something. That just helped me brainstorm a crazy idea that might involve a GOOD use of software patents!
Redefine the e-mail standard in such a way that is PATENTED. I'm sure someone could think of a way to do that.
Then, grant everyone a free license to use the patent EXCEPT spammers! Of course, come up with a fairly good definition of spam that would include sending bulk e-mail to people you have no prior relationship with.
Then, when a spammer uses the new standard, clearly violating the patent, they can have the crap sued out of them!
is post an Ask Slashdot about it. Sorry, but really.
I've thought a bit about trying to get a meeting with a congresscritter. How is it going to make you look if you have to come to Slashdot to get your arguments? Especially if the congresscritter finds out that you asked here?
The right way to get good advice would probably be via a mailing list specifically dedicated to this kind of thing.
Thankfully, I think it's safe to assume that at least 1/3 of the House OR 1/3 of the Senate will oppose this. So it will not override a veto.
I am counting on Bush to veto it personally. I can't immagine him signing something this stupid. If he does sign it, it's probably time to jump to the Constitution Party...
Oh yeah, and I should mention the e-mail I got from NetSol after switching. They said if I'm "not completely satisfied with [my] new registrar," it's "easy to switch back".
HAHAHAAHA. NetSol is the only registrar I haven't been completely satisfied with, and that would be the ONLY thing about them that's "easy"!
"Those customers who fall prey to this scheme, will not receive any better service or value."
I just transferred my last domain name out of NetSol/Verisign, and you don't have any idea how happy I am about it!
They have THE MOST CONFUSING set of forms ANYWHERE! I have a computer science degree and I knew exactly what I wanted to do (change an e-mail address and/or DNS server) but it took me FOREVER just to figure out which form on their site to use, and another forever to figure out how to use it!
By contrast, Domain-Maniac, which I currently use, has a simple login system. You can log in, change contacts and DNS servers and they're updated quickly and easily, no hassles, no headaches, no problems.
I'd use Domain Maniac over NetSol even if they charged twice as much!
But oh wait... they charge less than half of NetSol's price!
Is there ANYONE who registers with NetSol by choice anymore? WHY?????
The things you mention don't have much to do with whether or not they upgrade the major number.
I agree it's good they're (apparently) doing a point release instead of 8.0, but for different reasons:
* GCC 3.1 isn't yet ready, but will be within a few months
* ditto glibc 2.3
Had they released 8.0 with the current gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2, we'd likely be stuck with them for another couple years!
As it is, an 8.0 with those things, along with a new binary compatibility standard that should LAST a while, should be out this summer or early fall. It's win-win.
As for what you mentioned, KDE 3.0 *is* in this release. They upgraded from KDE 1.x to 2.x in Red Hat 7.1, so they can do that kind of thing in minor releases. Same with Mozilla and Gnome. Major releases are only for binary compatibility changes.
The really scary thing is, that might have to happen sometime. Our freedoms are being steadily eroded through stupid patents and stupid laws. Our whole freeking government is just corrupt.
This is NOT what millions of people in our history died for in defending our country!!!!
Before I politely flame my senators (which I DO intend to do if they support this), I just want to take a step back and try to understand exactly what will happen if it passes.
People say that Open Source operating systems will be banned. Is that REALLY likely to happen or is that some people's overreaction?
What kinds of operations will computers no longer be able to do? Will there be restrictions on copying files? Like, if a media file has a "do not copy" bit set, then nothing is supposed to copy it? But how in the world would that work? It would be super simple to write a C program to copy it, ignoring that bit. Will it all be in hardware? Will disk drives be forced to recognize when it sees a file with this bit set? That would be no small pain in the arse. While a fully hardware solution might allow Linux to legally run on it, the drives might necessarily not support all filesystems. And what happens when new media formats come out?
And would it stand legally? There are precedents for source code being considered speech, so it seems as though any attempt to ban the distribution or use of open code could be struck down in court fairly easily.
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Well, *ultimately* you'll want Evolution or Aethera(sp?) to be the client, since you're working on an open solution. And open source software could be made to be configurable that way (using seperate servers for different services).
No one's mentioned Borland's tools, but I think they'd fit the bill. Borland has great compiler technology, and it will compile and run cleanly across Linux and Windows (possibly with a few {$IFDEF}s). It has an I/O library that's as capable as C's (maybe a bit more wordy sometimes). Developing and debugging in Kylix is *much* quicker, in my experience, than using gcc/gdb. It's truly compiled, the compiler is lightning fast, and the integrated debugger is quite a bit more efficient than gdb based solutions.
I agree, this sucks. About 2 years ago, I switched from Western Digital to IBM as my favorite HD manufacturer. Hopefully someone will continue the Deskstars.
Anyway, I would choose SVG over flash any day.
:)
Except for the minor fact that most browsers don't support it yet...
But thanks for the info BTW.
Read it a little more closely:
Sorry, I think you're gonna have to pay up...
ok, has anyone gotten the images to work in a Linux browser? I click on Images and it just shows a quarter of a page of large print text starting with "US Paten..." inside a weird frame.
Did that in Mozilla 0.9.9 and Netscape 4.78. Konqueror 2.2.2 just showed a block box.
You're right -- when one browses the Apache sites, it's AMAZING how much stuff they've done, most of which few people know about or appreciate.
Does anyone know of a good complete book on Apache, preferrably Apache 2 now that it's out, that covers most or all of these tools and puts it all together?
The ONLY problem is that it seems as though most Apache projects now use Java, which I could personally live without.
Why would that have anything to do with SVG?
From what I recall reading, SVG was patented by someone else. I realize that W3C decided to not standardize patented technologies, which is definitely a good thing. That could make SVG NOT a web standard.
well I just filed an extension so I can do it late at night on August 14 or 15th. :)
There's been some word that SVG is covered by someone's (Adobe's?) patent. Does anyone know if that is true? That would really suck...
I was wondering the same thing, but I'm pretty sure Red Hat's installer will use USB keyboards. IIRC a friend of mine installed 7.0 with a USB KB. And he's a Linux newbie!
What I'm wondering about is the onboard video, sound, and ethernet. If that all works with Linux, this thing might be in my next box (of course, that could be a while, I'm still happy with my Athlon 700).
The alternative is regulating through code, but redefining the email standard so as to avoid SPAM would be problematic
Hey maybe you're actually on to something. That just helped me brainstorm a crazy idea that might involve a GOOD use of software patents!
Redefine the e-mail standard in such a way that is PATENTED. I'm sure someone could think of a way to do that.
Then, grant everyone a free license to use the patent EXCEPT spammers! Of course, come up with a fairly good definition of spam that would include sending bulk e-mail to people you have no prior relationship with.
Then, when a spammer uses the new standard, clearly violating the patent, they can have the crap sued out of them!
What do you think???
Should have used preview. Be gentle, moderators!
:-)
And GNOME 2? Not sure on that one.
is post an Ask Slashdot about it. Sorry, but really.
I've thought a bit about trying to get a meeting with a congresscritter. How is it going to make you look if you have to come to Slashdot to get your arguments? Especially if the congresscritter finds out that you asked here?
The right way to get good advice would probably be via a mailing list specifically dedicated to this kind of thing.
> Edit bytes at offset 508 and 509. Use "dd" to write it to a floppy.
Or you could use the rdev command, which does exactly that, but a whole lot easier.
man rdev
The b@st@rds! I hereby call for a boycott of Google until they guarantee that all Free Software projects can use this royalty free!
Thankfully, I think it's safe to assume that at least 1/3 of the House OR 1/3 of the Senate will oppose this. So it will not override a veto.
I am counting on Bush to veto it personally. I can't immagine him signing something this stupid. If he does sign it, it's probably time to jump to the Constitution Party...
Oh yeah, and I should mention the e-mail I got from NetSol after switching. They said if I'm "not completely satisfied with [my] new registrar," it's "easy to switch back".
HAHAHAAHA. NetSol is the only registrar I haven't been completely satisfied with, and that would be the ONLY thing about them that's "easy"!
"Those customers who fall prey to this scheme, will not receive any better service or value."
I just transferred my last domain name out of NetSol/Verisign, and you don't have any idea how happy I am about it!
They have THE MOST CONFUSING set of forms ANYWHERE! I have a computer science degree and I knew exactly what I wanted to do (change an e-mail address and/or DNS server) but it took me FOREVER just to figure out which form on their site to use, and another forever to figure out how to use it!
By contrast, Domain-Maniac, which I currently use, has a simple login system. You can log in, change contacts and DNS servers and they're updated quickly and easily, no hassles, no headaches, no problems.
I'd use Domain Maniac over NetSol even if they charged twice as much!
But oh wait... they charge less than half of NetSol's price!
Is there ANYONE who registers with NetSol by choice anymore? WHY?????
ok, no I'm not sure about that. I guess I just meant "the next binary incompatible release of glibc"
The things you mention don't have much to do with whether or not they upgrade the major number.
I agree it's good they're (apparently) doing a point release instead of 8.0, but for different reasons:
* GCC 3.1 isn't yet ready, but will be within a few months
* ditto glibc 2.3
Had they released 8.0 with the current gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2, we'd likely be stuck with them for another couple years!
As it is, an 8.0 with those things, along with a new binary compatibility standard that should LAST a while, should be out this summer or early fall. It's win-win.
As for what you mentioned, KDE 3.0 *is* in this release. They upgraded from KDE 1.x to 2.x in Red Hat 7.1, so they can do that kind of thing in minor releases. Same with Mozilla and Gnome. Major releases are only for binary compatibility changes.
The really scary thing is, that might have to happen sometime. Our freedoms are being steadily eroded through stupid patents and stupid laws. Our whole freeking government is just corrupt.
This is NOT what millions of people in our history died for in defending our country!!!!
Before I politely flame my senators (which I DO intend to do if they support this), I just want to take a step back and try to understand exactly what will happen if it passes.
People say that Open Source operating systems will be banned. Is that REALLY likely to happen or is that some people's overreaction?
What kinds of operations will computers no longer be able to do? Will there be restrictions on copying files? Like, if a media file has a "do not copy" bit set, then nothing is supposed to copy it? But how in the world would that work? It would be super simple to write a C program to copy it, ignoring that bit. Will it all be in hardware? Will disk drives be forced to recognize when it sees a file with this bit set? That would be no small pain in the arse. While a fully hardware solution might allow Linux to legally run on it, the drives might necessarily not support all filesystems. And what happens when new media formats come out?
And would it stand legally? There are precedents for source code being considered speech, so it seems as though any attempt to ban the distribution or use of open code could be struck down in court fairly easily.
Any thoughts?
Was it actually written by the rep?
I sent my comments to Ms. Hooley (D-OR) via her web site and got a postal letter back, but I'm pretty sure it was just from her staff.