Google's Pageranking Explained
bluegreenone writes "Google has a new page up about some of their proprietary search technology. Looks like Teoma's bid to outdo Google may be harder than they initially thought." It's an interesting
technique, and definitely a lot harder for competitors to duplicate than I would
have originally thought.
hunt and peck
april fool! it so funny! pigeons typing...too funny fo me! (btw, is it a slashdot april fools to disable anonymous posting, or is that how its gonna be?)
*looks to the artical about Indian pigeons* They already hired them it looks like...
I wonder if they also use the pigeons to carry data on their internal network?
Remember, there were no nuclear weapons before women were allowed to vote.
And I thought Microsoft was the only company that consisted solely of pigeon-brained species =/
We dance to all the wrong songs.
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Are those pigeons the one fired from Indias Avian Carriers? :))
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Actually, I just came back from Teoma, talked to an engineer there, and he told me that using Pigeon Clusters is so outdated. He showed me Teoma's technology. It was a room full of monkeys sitting in front of PC's (running Linux of course). Sure it was a smelly room, but those primates were busy pounding away on the keyboard...
Primate Clusters are the way to go baby.
Not suprisingly, Slashdot on April 1 is as useless as condoms for 16 year old C++ programmers.
Anything useful to read about today?
I just wasted your mod points! HA!
Wow they have you all going. This is an April Fool's day joke if I ever saw it. I've been to Google's secret underground lair and as anyone who has survived their Mission Impossible style defenses can tell you.... its Squirrels, this is just a lame attempt to throw off their competitors.
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hmmm what happened to the post as Anonymous Coward box? oh well, Google Doesn't know where I live, do they?
Man, the birds are so smart. No wonder they can dive bomb so accurately, reguarless of bad disguises.
Wow, that's really stupid and not funny. Stick to search engines, guys.
ok then your [sic] infringing on my copyright! Could you as [sic] me next time before STEALING my comments for your own?
Yes, you read it here first, those retired carrier pigeons from India are being shipped to Google as we speak. Of course Google will have to take steps to ensure that no pigeons escape back to India carrying precious webpage rankings -- imagine the disaster if every web page in the world suddenly pointed at India!! Why, there'd barely be enough to go round!
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
Just imagine the amount of pigeon poodoo they must be having to deal with! Wonder what they're doing with all of it?
But in the end they still haven't forgotten their roots and can still have fun - it reminds me when other Internet companies didn't take themsleves so serious all the time.
Don't look out your window! There's Temoa engineers scraping up pigeon droppings off the street to do a little reverse engineering!
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But the term Pigeon Prank (tm) patented process would be more appropriate.
When are people going to give up on the pigeon jokes. These things are getting worse than the All Your Base rip-offs.
Yeah, I've heard it thru the grapevine that the RIAA plans to target Google next. Teoma is hoping to do an endrun around them with a wholly different set of technology. It only stand to reason that Google is trying to put a good front on the whole issue in hope that they can instantiaite a new buisnes model that involves a micropayment system arrangment with paypal.
Personally I think this is getting way outta control.
find out about this!
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Google has applied for several patents, including a patent for the entire pigeon genome...
WTF does this have to do with anything? Get back to lala land.
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European pigeon?
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A pigeon gets it's wings
:)
This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
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If there were ever a better time for the Peregrine Falcon Recovery Plan to take off and kill these stupid pigeon-based April Fool's Day jokes....
Rule #1 -- Politics always trumps technology.
Slashdot, ever devoted to the environment, has recently licensed this technology. They have an ongoing agreement to purchase all the remaining non-white poop pixels for reuse in enormous HP ads.
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Fink, now with INTERCAL. No, really.
I really wanted to see a pic of Google's world famous chef preparing the pigeons' meals!
I love Google, and I do have a hard time imagining someone else doing a better job, but I'll drop them like a bad habit if something better comes along.
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Not only have they survived while other .com era companies have faltered, they have ratained the good humor and playfullness that was a hallmark of that era.
Go GOOGLE!
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All these reports indicate one thing: while it may take millions of monkeys hammering away at keyboards to get what you want, use only a few thousand pigeons and get it faster and better.
this was right on topic with the comment it was in reply to. You stupid fucks need to learn how to read.
Okay, it's in french, but it's those nifty strips of vertical 2" pins that you see all over any horizontal area on important buildings in europe.
http://www.facaclean.be/html/pigeon.htm
Oh, I liked the part about the restroom with a selection of the finest european statuary...
No wonder the first 100 hits for "monitors" are from the Viewsonic site...
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Are they able to carry coconuts?
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You know, with all of the news sites carrying bogus stories in the spirit of April Fool's Day, I was wondering what the ONION would do about this. Turns out that they didn't change a thing.
actual news stories up there. It would have been great to read real news about the latest bombings in the Middle East, or GW's plans to fight terrorism, right on the front page and see if anyone would believe (or not believe, as the case may be) those stories.
Missed opportunities abound...
a beowolf cluser of these! And then imagine the smell.
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what's behind the carnivore program.
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Jokes for retards, shit that's fake.
Har, Har, Apr1l F0015! Sorry, but come on!
"Egads, Jeff, look at this!" "Tom, wake up all our developers. We're going pigeon catching."
All Your Pigeon Are Belong To Us!
What is a Pageran King ???
In related new, Teoma plans to overtake Google as the #1 search engine on the Internet, in which a Google representative simply responded, "When pigs fly!"
Inside sources close to the situation say Teoma is currently in talks to purchase Farmer Hank's magic pig farm, complete with magic beans.
-- Kircle
Any bird person would know that African Grey's are much superior to pigeons in ther web ranking abilities.
Pigeons searching the web? Where's the subtlety in that? Where's the surprise? The Slashdot bit was mildly entertaining, Freshmeat was just a groaner. There has to be surprise to really get a good laugh going, and I just wasn't surprised by these things. Maybe I'm jaded from reading them for too long and knowing what to expect from them.
Oh, well, I'll quit griping now. Maybe I'll go read the MaraDNS release announcement again. That'll put me in a better mood, I reckon.
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It might take an infinite number of monkeys to produce the internet, but apparently it only takes a finite number of pigeons to rank it...
:)
grnbrg
The point of using pigeons instead of monkeys is that pigeons are commodity birdware that can be found in any public park or on any statue. Using monkeys means all sorts of hassles. Simians not being native to the US, reliance on monkeys puts us at the mercy of tin pot dictators from monkeyed countries.
Further, pigeons have consistently been shown to outperform humans in search engine environments, and though no direct pigeon/monkey benchmarks have been performed, monkeys suffer from many of the same limitations which bottleneck human performance. They're more expensive to maintain, they crash frequently during mating season, and pigeons are completely immune to the feces-hurling problems found in all monkey clusters (and a few human ones).
Finally, TCO for a twelve-bird cluster is actually *less* than that for a single monkey. Teoma isn't going to be able to scale their system without a massive influx of cash and bananas.
Man, doesn't *anybody* read the articles?
You want the truthiness? You can't handle the truthiness!
Good Lord. I forgot today was April 1. I actually started reading the article thinking it was a normal one. I'm thinking "Oh my god, they actually do this?"
Its only 9 am and time for a beer already!
even google didn't cache its own recent page.. heres the page you get if you try to get a cached version.
What?
First they allow patenting math (all software comes from code and all code can be expressed as math) and now they'll patent the use of live animals?! When will this cruelty end!!!
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Would have been more funny if they had made it so only for this article.
Actually, it's probably the way things are going to be. One of the User Created Discussions has been message bombed into oblivion (6000+ messages) by someone posting anonymously through open proxies.
There are two ways to fix that, block all open proxies (Which is practically impossible) or block anonymous posting. If you have to be logged in to post, they can limit your posting no matter what IP you come in from.
My guess is that AC posting is gone forever.
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Every time you GoogleWhack, God kills a pigeon.
It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated by bolts of lightning.
Google has always come up with some very interesting articles on April 1st. This is one is by far the most interesting.
GO GO GOOOOGLE!!
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Beak over Wing?
this is a great new technology. My employer has currently started development on a next generation of this amaxing tech: BoW+1C. Beak over Wing + 1 claw is amazingingly fast. Our benchmarks show your page rankings can be done using half the pigeons, with maximum results. In fact, one of our early adopters (Bobs House of Kink and Bubble Gum) has trippled his page hits in 3 hours using this technology. For more information, please browse our website: http://www.pow+1c.com You won't regret it!!!!
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Heh, the PigeonRank page is definitely the best April Fools joke so far.
As part of my PhD research, I've been doing some analysis of the PageRank algorithm. A few weeks ago, I did some analysis of the attack-resistance properties, and found that it is one of two known instances of an attack resistant trust metric (the other being Advogato. To me, this is pretty exciting, as it would seem to support my belief that trust metrics have much wider use than the PKI-like applications that originally motivated my research.
The analysis of PageRank is in Chapter 6 of my thesis-in-progress. Also in the chapter is a discussion of how to apply the trust metric to more general metadata, as well as a distributed network model of the trust metric.
Serious hackers will also be interested in my spiffy research implementation of PageRank.
I'm very much interested in connecting with others who understand and appreciate these results. Lord knows why I'm posting to Slashdot... oh well, time to go back to feeding my pigeons.
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Please tell me I am not the first to post this. I expect a little more from the jaded audience of /.
Screw ServerA out in Virginia, im going pigeon hunting!
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apparently pigeons are all scientologists.
The results were:
1. Webcrawler
WebCrawler.com Web News Photos Yellow Pages White Pages Search Zoom In Escape! airfare discount travel hotels Autos...
http://www.webcrawler.com/
[More results like this]
2. Yahoo!
Yahoo Yahoo! Personals find the one for you Click Here ! Yahoo! Messenger 5.0 download now! advanced search Y! Shopping - Computers ? Video Games...
http://www.yahoo.com/
3. HotBot
HotBot Search Smarter Look for: all the words any of the words exact phrase the page title the person links to this URL boolean phrase Date:...
http://www.hotbot.com/
[More results like this]
4. http://www.excite.com/
http://www.excite.com/...
http://www.excite.com/
5. Google
Happy Holidays from Google Web Images Groups Directory ? Advanced Search ? Preferences ? Language Tools Advertise with Us - Add...
http://www.google.com/
6. Lycos
Lycos Home Site Map My Lycos TOOLS Chat Clubs Downloads Email/IM Horoscopes Maps MP3s Multimedia Personals Photos Stocks Translate WAP/SMS...
http://www.lycos.com/
7. AltaVista - The Search Company ... AltaVista Try your search in: Images ? Video ? MP3/Audio ? News...
AltaVista provides the most comprehensive search experience on the Web!
http://www.altavista.com/
8. AllTheWeb.com ... Help | Customize | Advanced Search Any language Afrikaans Albanian Arabic Basque Byelorussian...
AllTheWeb Search All The Web, All the Time :
http://www.alltheweb.com/
9. Dogpile. All results, no mess.
Dogpile gives you more result with less effort. Find the best results on the Web with the help of more than 15 of the top search engines in the...
http://www.dogpile.com/
[More results like this]
10. Direct Hit. One Search Engine. Millions of Minds. ...or ask a question Tragedy in the US: News and Resources...
direct hit direct hit November 26, 2001 Search for... web sites categories
http://www.directhit.com/
[More results like this] Neat, huh?
Besides often irrelevant results, or results such as above, it's slower, and still has bugs that need to be worked out (clicking certain NEXT navigation will put you at results 1-10 of who knows what or where - like click the >> at the end of the 1 2 3 ... section - leaving no other page options other than NEXT >> after that...).
I see it getting slower and slower if it gets adopted by any decent amount of people, and then eventually either in need of a server farm of immense proportions or lots of IIS's famous "Server too busy" errors...
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The b@st@rds! I hereby call for a boycott of Google until they guarantee that all Free Software projects can use this royalty free!
I alwasy though it was some kind of AI thing.
"When a relevant result is observed by one of the pigeons in the cluster, it strikes a rubber- coated steel bar with its beak, which assigns the page a PigeonRank value of one. For each peck, the PigeonRank increases."
Sounds just like moding on Slashdot. Hmmm....
I liked the story on Wired about the water-logged digital camera.
0 0. html
http://www.wired.com/news/culture/0,1284,51205,
Adbumb had a special bulletin about DoubleClick merging with all of its competitors. Any other good stories out there?
I've said it once, and I'll say it again: I sent this story in hours ago and it was rejected! Bah.
"Lin/ax Kernels Consumed"
"This open space lin/ax powers Google's operations to this day, and a visit to the data coop reveals pigeons happily pecking away at lin/ax kernels and seeds."
"It's even worse if you're locked into a proprietary operating system." -http://www.wehavethewayout.com/scale.asp?rew=0
Teoma sends its Beowulf cluster to devour Google's Pigeon cluster. Teoma still sucks, but it reigns supreme over Google's feather-littered server room.
I mean, come on, people. Everybody knows (or should know) that there would be no pigeons if there were no Gnus. They're symbiotic.
To ensure the proper respect the Gnus deserve, Google should have at least changed Lin/ax to Gnu/Lin/ax in the article.
Sheesh.
PigeonRank is real - GoogleWhack!
;-))
(Oh, and notice how the spellchecker suggests that you probably meant "PageRank"...
You know, Microsoft's street address also says a lot about their mentality.
Here's the Google cache of the page. Really, Slashdot needs to stop posting to these small pages.
Link
The page is slashdotted. Does anyone know what the google mirror is?
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This puts a whole new meaning on 'pigeonholing' a document.
:)
But the real problem that this technology has created, is that until now, nobody realized that pigeons were really penguins in disguise...
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yes, we mother fuckers are fucking everyone around today with our sheer intelligence!!... and u assholes are jealous u couldnt do the same thing .... u need brains if thats any indication .. grow up kid!!
,we control what u read and search today ... so go hang, if u dont like it.
well u said it all, to start with
- indian.