I'd love to help you out, but you haven't actually told us what you want improved in C++. Not garbage collection, so D (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/) is probably not interesting to you.
But seriously, I find modern C++ a pretty amazing language, and you can get enormous benefits from libraries such as boost (http://www.boost.org/
>There was NO abuse to the degree that it was made out to be abuse. You were there, were you?
>Many of the techniques that were used at Abu Ghraib were tried and true methods of breaking the enemy to extract information. Electric shocks to the genitals are "tried and true methods" to extract information. Whether the information you extract through torture is true is clearly beside the point.
> If you have a problem with that, then you won't like living in Europe or anywhere else on the planet where torture methods are either unchecked or much more drastic. In Europe? Earth to slriv, earth to slriv, please come back!
>It's really insane the ignorance of people, and especially those in Europe. Making an educated guess here that you're from the US, you have the gall to complain about the ignorance of Europeans? Heck, we have a lot of stupid people in Europe, but the general populace is dramatically better informed about international affairs than Americans. Of course, we ain't got no "Fair & Balanced" media over here. So please arrange the following words into a popular phrase: Pot Kettle Calling Black!
> The sad thing is their memory is so short. WWII, Still well in living memory here, actually.
>Germans were sending rockets to London and blowing up entire cities on the easter front while at the same time exterminating all civilians who didn't agree with them. Yes, they did, and lots more nasty things besides. And the Russians raped thousands of women on their way to Berlin. The Brits & the Americans firebombed Dresden, needlessly and deliberately killing huge numbers of non-combatants. The US consistently broke treaties with native Americans, stole their land and decimated them.
History is bloody & miserable. Let's try and make things better, rather than worse,
>The US forces compared to the brutality of these regimes (some not so many years ago) is really pretty lame, and governed by laws and rules, most of which no other nation on the planet abides by. Look at the Vietnam war for how well the Geneva convention was used by the enemy. If your neighbours beat their wives, and your dad beat your mother, that makes it okay to beat your wife? As long as you don't use a belt, like they did?
Let's try something more challenging - arrange these words: "Off" and "Fuck".
Exactly. That's why the US govt keeps prisoners in Guantanamo Bay - because it argues that's part of Cuba, albeit a funny one, and the constitution does not apply there.
actually, if you are b) the elderly you should be encouraging people to have as many kids as possible. At the current birthrates, most western countries aren't going to have enough people to pay for pensions (or look after the aging population) in a few decades time.
That would be a good argument to ban violence on TV and in Games. Showing consensual sex should surely be a positive thing, if you followed that argument.
Ramming a french boat seems like very peaceful retaliation, considering that the french blew up their flagship in harbour, killing a crewman.
Methinks a bit of perspective is called for.
As for the "boarding" incident, I seem to recall that they clambered on board the ship - it's not like they took over control of the ship at gunpoint. Illegal? Probably. Stupid? Probably. Tresspassing? Yup. Violent? err, no. Sorry.
Not a hunter myself, although I don't object to hunting. Seeing as there are no wolves or bears in Europe anymore (with few exceptions), and deer aren't stupid enough to all killed on the road in sufficient numbers, we have to shoot some deer. And venison can be nice.
But pray do explain your reasoning: Greenpeace - unarguably non-violently in this case, unless you construe mere presence in open ocean as violence - protest against nuclear tests. That gives the French secret servie the right to a) blow up their ship b) kill people c) do this in NZ territory?
I haven't heard of links / donations between Greenpeace and ALF before - any sources?
As for ramming boats into each other, from what I remember Greenpeace tends to be in a rubber dingy against a tanker / whaler / toxic waste dumper, which seems about as violent as tickling a tank with a feather. I'd agree they're sometimes over the top, but "violent" is a stretch.
The fringe of the animal movement, though, definitely has terrorists. http://www.shac.net/ seem keen to firebomb people to save rats, among other things.
Can you give me a reference to that? I'm genuinely curious - I thought I'd followed that act quite carefully, but that seems to have escaped my notice.
The difference is that the UK govt has done away with judicial rubberstamping..err.. oversight completely. It's one of the things our glorious leader can't stand, mainly because courts have a pesky habit of telling him off.
Forward, not backwards. War is Peace. Freedom is slavery.
While I rather agree with your sentiments about Fox TV et. al., you seem to have a key fact somewhat backwards:
Check out Al Jazeera, if you can find it. Then you might see a sampling of what's really going on over there: shot after shot of dead civilians, including many kids. Many more shots of civilians, barely alive, lying in squalid hospital beds, the remains of their arms and legs wrapped in bandages after being blown off by bombs. Innocent civilians being harassed and humiliated at roadblocks, or worse if they panic and fail to comply with a shouted command they can't understand because it's in English. It's not the US and the UK (nor the handful of other countries that have sent half a dozen soldiers each) that are setting off bombs - it's Iraquis and foreign "terrorists". It's now largely a civil war with the allies joining in on one side. While we can argue about a lot of things, the plain fact is that the civilian suffering is caused largely by the insurgents, not by the allies.
You'll see footage of heavily armed US troops I can sort of see why they're heavily armed, can't you?
kicking in doors of houses, pointing their weapons at civilians, shouting (again in English!) While Anglo-Saxons seem to be congenitally deficient in the foreign language department, I really can't believe they haven't managed to impart a basic level of Arabic on even the Grunts. How hard can it be? You don't need to be able to talk about poetry, but "Stop", "Get on the ground" , "Hands in the air",... can't be beyond the average GI. So I assume it's lack of will at the top.
Don't forget that BadGuy, a professional EvilDoer (i.e. a childmolesting terrorist moneylaunderer) will gladly hand over evidence guaranteed to giv him 25 to life to avoid a two year maximum jail sentence.
> 2) Abide by this and guys like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.. can do anything they want to their own people. After all it's all "internal affairs" - tienanamen square anyone? Do we really have to wait until they fire up the ovens and gas chambers until we act?
Actually, Hitler, Stalin (and Mao, and Saddam, and Pinochet, and Somoza, and Idi Amin, and....) were allowed to do whatever they liked to their people. Mugabe is still doing it. Sure, a few pinko liberals might have complained, but as long as they stay within their own borders, no government intervenes.
Pol Pot was eventually toppled by the Vitnamese invasion, if memory serves. Now that was a liberation army.
As for Hitler, let's not kid ourselves: The allies didn't fight him because of the holocaust; they fought him because he'd attacked them first. If he'd stayed within his own borders, or even only annexed small countries no one cared about, he would have died peacefully in his sleep.
That's of course not the way it should be, just the way it is. I'd say we should change the U.N. charter to make human rights truly inalienable - the U.N. should have the power to topple governments because of human rights abuses!
Well, yes, as a programmer you wouldn't want a magazine to tell you about what's happening, would you? You'd much rather stick your head in the sand, that way the problem goes away. Always works when you're programming as well, doesn't it?
Get real: The important part of news is news you don't want to hear. Besides, the cover girl looks rather attractive - I'd like to see more of her;)
1. It wasn't a "reaction", it was an action. It had nothing to do with 9/11. 2. "liberating" is a term that can only be used by the victors - I think the jury's still out on whether the coalition is victorious in the occupation.
As for the tyrant.. well, you helped to install him in the first place, and were happy to prop him up while he was busy attacking Iran (which used to be run by a US puppet). Kinda hard to claim the big moral highground here.
I guess we agree - it doesn't make much sense, but then blackmail doesn't necessarily have to.
> An software deve office in the EU is expensive True.
> and European workers aren't exactly the hardest working on the planet. Present company excepted, I presume?
>Its no accident France has a 10% unemployment rate in the newly globalized world. It's too hard to get rid of people there, and given the incentives for staying unemployed there, why would you care? Of course, a large proportion of french farmers are practically unemployed and only notionally propped up by the longsuffering tax payers of the EU/
Nonsense. Whether you can patent something in Europe or not is economically irrelevant to its production / development location. You can develop in Europe, and patent in the US if you think it's useful.
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No, it just goes to show that Paul Graham is a very smart guy with lots of blind spots. A good design pattern does not mean that there's unecessary redundancy in the code; it means that you've applied a proven solution to a known problem (better yet, a proven, matching series of solutions, with known side effects, to a problem). One of those solutions may well be to use Lisp - that solves a certain set of problems, and creates others.
If you want to really understand design patterns, there's really no way around reading Alexander himself. Or Richard Gabriel's "Patterns of Software". Or, ideally, all of them;)
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I'd love to help you out, but you haven't actually told us what you want improved in C++. Not garbage collection, so D (http://www.digitalmars.com/d/) is probably not interesting to you.
But seriously, I find modern C++ a pretty amazing language, and you can get enormous benefits from libraries such as boost (http://www.boost.org/
They're Computer Scientists, and we all know that any Science that has to have Science in its name is not a real Science ;)
>There was NO abuse to the degree that it was made out to be abuse.
You were there, were you?
>Many of the techniques that were used at Abu Ghraib were tried and true methods of breaking the enemy to extract information.
Electric shocks to the genitals are "tried and true methods" to extract information. Whether the information you extract through torture is true is clearly beside the point.
> If you have a problem with that, then you won't like living in Europe or anywhere else on the planet where torture methods are either unchecked or much more drastic.
In Europe? Earth to slriv, earth to slriv, please come back!
>It's really insane the ignorance of people, and especially those in Europe.
Making an educated guess here that you're from the US, you have the gall to complain about the ignorance of Europeans? Heck, we have a lot of stupid people in Europe, but the general populace is dramatically better informed about international affairs than Americans. Of course, we ain't got no "Fair & Balanced" media over here. So please arrange the following words into a popular phrase: Pot Kettle Calling Black!
> The sad thing is their memory is so short. WWII,
Still well in living memory here, actually.
>Germans were sending rockets to London and blowing up entire cities on the easter front while at the same time exterminating all civilians who didn't agree with them.
Yes, they did, and lots more nasty things besides. And the Russians raped thousands of women on their way to Berlin. The Brits & the Americans firebombed Dresden, needlessly and deliberately killing huge numbers of non-combatants. The US consistently broke treaties with native Americans, stole their land and decimated them.
History is bloody & miserable. Let's try and make things better, rather than worse,
>The US forces compared to the brutality of these regimes (some not so many years ago) is really pretty lame, and governed by laws and rules, most of which no other nation on the planet abides by. Look at the Vietnam war for how well the Geneva convention was used by the enemy.
If your neighbours beat their wives, and your dad beat your mother, that makes it okay to beat your wife? As long as you don't use a belt, like they did?
Let's try something more challenging - arrange these words: "Off" and "Fuck".
Exactly. That's why the US govt keeps prisoners in Guantanamo Bay - because it argues that's part of Cuba, albeit a funny one, and the constitution does not apply there.
actually, if you are b) the elderly you should be encouraging people to have as many kids as possible. At the current birthrates, most western countries aren't going to have enough people to pay for pensions (or look after the aging population) in a few decades time.
That would be a good argument to ban violence on TV and in Games. Showing consensual sex should surely be a positive thing, if you followed that argument.
The corrolary is that you have to maintain it, and you never get to do the fun new stuff.
Ramming a french boat seems like very peaceful retaliation, considering that the french blew up their flagship in harbour, killing a crewman.
Methinks a bit of perspective is called for.
As for the "boarding" incident, I seem to recall that they clambered on board the ship - it's not like they took over control of the ship at gunpoint. Illegal? Probably. Stupid? Probably. Tresspassing? Yup. Violent? err, no. Sorry.
Not a hunter myself, although I don't object to hunting. Seeing as there are no wolves or bears in Europe anymore (with few exceptions), and deer aren't stupid enough to all killed on the road in sufficient numbers, we have to shoot some deer. And venison can be nice.
But pray do explain your reasoning: Greenpeace - unarguably non-violently in this case, unless you construe mere presence in open ocean as violence - protest against nuclear tests. That gives the French secret servie the right to a) blow up their ship b) kill people c) do this in NZ territory?
ALF, not ELF. Animals, not Elves ;)
I haven't heard of links / donations between Greenpeace and ALF before - any sources?
As for ramming boats into each other, from what I remember Greenpeace tends to be in a rubber dingy against a tanker / whaler / toxic waste dumper, which seems about as violent as tickling a tank with a feather. I'd agree they're sometimes over the top, but "violent" is a stretch.
The fringe of the animal movement, though, definitely has terrorists. http://www.shac.net/ seem keen to firebomb people to save rats, among other things.
Mercedes-Benz (a.k.a. Daimler-Chrysler - God only knows why the hell they thought Chrysler was worth having) doesn't make "economy cars"?
g dom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/pass enger_cars/home/products/new_cars/a-class_hatchbac k/May_offer_internalv2.html g dom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/pass enger_cars/home/products/new_cars/b_class.html
g dom/mpc/mpc_unitedkingdom_website/en/home_mpc/pass enger_cars/home/products/new_cars/b_class.html ? 626 bhp seems a fair amount of muscle....
Smart: http://www.smart.com/
A Class: http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkin
B Class: http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkin
As for Muscle Cars, what about http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/unitedkin
Can you give me a reference to that? I'm genuinely curious - I thought I'd followed that act quite carefully, but that seems to have escaped my notice.
The difference is that the UK govt has done away with judicial rubberstamping..err.. oversight completely. It's one of the things our glorious leader can't stand, mainly because courts have a pesky habit of telling him off.
Forward, not backwards. War is Peace. Freedom is slavery.
While I rather agree with your sentiments about Fox TV et. al., you seem to have a key fact somewhat backwards:
... can't be beyond the average GI. So I assume it's lack of will at the top.
Check out Al Jazeera, if you can find it. Then you might see a sampling of what's really going on over there: shot after shot of dead civilians, including many kids. Many more shots of civilians, barely alive, lying in squalid hospital beds, the remains of their arms and legs wrapped in bandages after being blown off by bombs. Innocent civilians being harassed and humiliated at roadblocks, or worse if they panic and fail to comply with a shouted command they can't understand because it's in English.
It's not the US and the UK (nor the handful of other countries that have sent half a dozen soldiers each) that are setting off bombs - it's Iraquis and foreign "terrorists". It's now largely a civil war with the allies joining in on one side. While we can argue about a lot of things, the plain fact is that the civilian suffering is caused largely by the insurgents, not by the allies.
You'll see footage of heavily armed US troops
I can sort of see why they're heavily armed, can't you?
kicking in doors of houses, pointing their weapons at civilians, shouting (again in English!)
While Anglo-Saxons seem to be congenitally deficient in the foreign language department, I really can't believe they haven't managed to impart a basic level of Arabic on even the Grunts. How hard can it be? You don't need to be able to talk about poetry, but "Stop", "Get on the ground" , "Hands in the air",
Other than that, you're fairly spot on.
Don't forget that BadGuy, a professional EvilDoer (i.e. a childmolesting terrorist moneylaunderer) will gladly hand over evidence guaranteed to giv him 25 to life to avoid a two year maximum jail sentence.
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Meanwhile, back in the real world, the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act introduced the offence of not handing over encryption keys back in 2000. http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm
Sometimes I think the country is run by madmen.
So it's quick as long as it's useful, and as soon as you put enough things on it to be able to do things it gets slow?
;)
Gee, that's great.
> 2) Abide by this and guys like Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, etc.. can do anything they want to their own people. After all it's all "internal affairs" - tienanamen square anyone? Do we really have to wait until they fire up the ovens and gas chambers until we act?
....) were allowed to do whatever they liked to their people. Mugabe is still doing it. Sure, a few pinko liberals might have complained, but as long as they stay within their own borders, no government intervenes.
Actually, Hitler, Stalin (and Mao, and Saddam, and Pinochet, and Somoza, and Idi Amin, and
Pol Pot was eventually toppled by the Vitnamese invasion, if memory serves. Now that was a liberation army.
As for Hitler, let's not kid ourselves: The allies didn't fight him because of the holocaust; they fought him because he'd attacked them first. If he'd stayed within his own borders, or even only annexed small countries no one cared about, he would have died peacefully in his sleep.
That's of course not the way it should be, just the way it is. I'd say we should change the U.N. charter to make human rights truly inalienable - the U.N. should have the power to topple governments because of human rights abuses!
>Do you vote for somebody who has lied to you? The Spanisch didn't.
The Americans did. Well, 50.2% (roughly) did,
The British did. Well, 36% of those that voted did, but thanks to the ridiculuous voting system, that counted as a resounding victory for Bliar.
51% voting against Europe in France was a crushing defeat, 64% voting against Blair a resounding victory. Go figure.
I'd prefer to have my domain automatically renewed (and with notice!) than to loose it by accident. Sounds like great customer service to me.
Well, yes, as a programmer you wouldn't want a magazine to tell you about what's happening, would you? You'd much rather stick your head in the sand, that way the problem goes away. Always works when you're programming as well, doesn't it?
;)
Get real: The important part of news is news you don't want to hear. Besides, the cover girl looks rather attractive - I'd like to see more of her
1. It wasn't a "reaction", it was an action. It had nothing to do with 9/11.
2. "liberating" is a term that can only be used by the victors - I think the jury's still out on whether the coalition is victorious in the occupation.
As for the tyrant.. well, you helped to install him in the first place, and were happy to prop him up while he was busy attacking Iran (which used to be run by a US puppet). Kinda hard to claim the big moral highground here.
I guess we agree - it doesn't make much sense, but then blackmail doesn't necessarily have to.
> An software deve office in the EU is expensive
True.
> and European workers aren't exactly the hardest working on the planet.
Present company excepted, I presume?
>Its no accident France has a 10% unemployment rate in the newly globalized world.
It's too hard to get rid of people there, and given the incentives for staying unemployed there, why would you care? Of course, a large proportion of french farmers are practically unemployed and only notionally propped up by the longsuffering tax payers of the EU/
Nonsense. Whether you can patent something in Europe or not is economically irrelevant to its production / development location. You can develop in Europe, and patent in the US if you think it's useful.
No, it just goes to show that Paul Graham is a very smart guy with lots of blind spots. A good design pattern does not mean that there's unecessary redundancy in the code; it means that you've applied a proven solution to a known problem (better yet, a proven, matching series of solutions, with known side effects, to a problem). One of those solutions may well be to use Lisp - that solves a certain set of problems, and creates others.
;)
If you want to really understand design patterns, there's really no way around reading Alexander himself. Or Richard Gabriel's "Patterns of Software". Or, ideally, all of them
Less Pay => Lower temptation threshold.
Which is why you SHOULD pay politicians and official reasonably well.