...is how they've taken what used to be good paying American jobs and outsourced them to mordor. Their patent scumbaggery is galling, but it hasn't actually destroyed families who lost their livelyhood when Apple moved to China.
Democracies die behind closed doors bubba. Your attitude about public records being the exception rather than the rule is unfortunately too wide spread among government agencies. Thankfully, the law usually doesn't share your opinion.
I've never pulled CCW permit lists to look for mistakes on the forms. I did pull 'em to prove that the sheriff, who had a pretty restrictive policy about issuing them, made a habit of approving them to people who donated money to his reelection campaign.
the sudden decision that concealed carry permit applications were public records, and that some newspapers were getting the records and publishing maps of the houses of permit holders. Those who filled out the forms had no expectation that the data was a public record, and the form didn't tell them that it was.
If it's a government record, it's a public record. That should always be the assumption. Exceptions need to be exceedingly rare.
In the case of concealed carry permits, there's lot of room for malfesance by the issuing authority. You'll never find out about it if those records are exempt from disclosure.
Of course a better solution is to not require a government permit for exercising your second amendment rights.
which means $2400 a semester on housing, or $7200 a year. Not too terrible, depending on where you're at. So, why are you bitching about housing prices? Is it just 'cuz you actually see the bills instead of having 'em taken out of your financial aid award?
I really despise how often this "they are just stupid" perception is passed off as true. No, they are not stupid. They may not tell you the _real_ reason why they are doing something, but you can bet your ass they have considered major aspects.
It should really hurt your head to believe that all of these laws and rulings are accidental. No, they are not. Someone has considered most of the consequences. How they are selling it to the general public probably has little to do with the result they are actually looking for. Used car salesmen love people like you!
I have covered the state legislature in three different states. I can say that actually, they really are that stupid. Though stupid is a bit over broad: most of the state legislators I've known lack perspective and experience. They also tend to be either a) ideologes or b) careerists or c) both. And many are indeed just stupid.
When you think of state government, picture a half bright real estate hustler in wayyyyy over their head, overscheduled and floundering as they try to pander effectively for the rich people back in their district. If it wasn't for leadership and lobbyists, they wouldn't know which way they're supposed to vote most the time. I almost wish they were competent enough to be the sort of Machiavelian politicos you're describing.
by providing incredibly expensive data runs to people the rest of the industry can't be bothered servicing because there's not enough of them to make a profit on.
I seem to recall that we paid the telcos and MSOs to do just that. They then pocketed the money, bought off the regulators, and told us with a straight face that further network upgrades are too expensive and we should all just rely on LTE or something.
Pointing out that something the powers that be consider a crime may actually be an act of extra-legal social justice is a perfectly legitamate comment. Sometimes, the 'victim' really did have it coming. In no way is that the same thing as saying rape victims are at fault for dressing sexy. Nor is it necessarily "blaming the victim for having something a criminal wanted"; would you say the same if the victim was the Sheriff of Notingham?
I know almost nothing about the people involved in this case, but if I had to I'd bet that your read on the situation is correct and the commenter you reacted to is an idiot. Still, attacking anyone who questions the rights and wrongs of the situation is kinda dickish.
And your particular phrasing of "having something the criminal wanted" combined with your assumption that the commenter's 'life choices' are the sole cause of his present level of poverty or affluence strongly suggests your a right wing asshat who should be taken out and shot for the good of the nation.
The purpose of Kelly Blue Book is to fool buyers about market prices -- it actually lists asking prices, but it sure doesn't make that obvious. Car dealers love them some KBB.
if you know who stole your inheritance, why didn't you handle it? All I can figure is 1) it was a really small inheritance and you're not willing to stand on the principle of the thing 2) You're a punk or 3) You're an idiot who actually did kill the guy/gal in question but will then admit motive on/.
Depends. In general that won't happen because you're never going to talk to the cops period.
If they've got a case, then you're going to be paying for the lawyer anyway. If they don't then you walk. If they're fishing, then this means you don't talk your way into a charge.
Unless you're actively under investigation it's pointless to have an attorney represent you at this point anyway. All he or she will do is tell you to ignore anything the pigs say to you and keep your mouth shut.
It's important to remember that there's absent an actual ticking bomb, there's nothing you can get from talking to the pigs now that you couldn't get later -- the difference is that later you'll know exactly how strong or (usually) weak the case is against you.
There's nothing more depressing than reading a police report and realizing that the cops had little to nothing until the defendant -- now facing serious charges -- talked to them. This happens over and over and over and over again.
Also if you are charged it'll cost you much more than $1000 to hire a decent defense attorney. Try $5000-$10,000 minimum for a minor leauge felony or serious misdemeanor, even if you don't go to trial. My ex-brother in law and his father spent almost $200,000 for a highly regarded defense attorney to fight a federal dope case -- and that was without actually going to trial.
You don't need to have a lawyer come down 'so he could be questioned.' You ask "am I under arrest?." If the pig says anything other than 'yes' you walk out of the room. If the pig says yes you say "I want to speak with my attorney before talking to you."
Tell me, can you be so sure when faced with professional interrogators that you would do exactly the 'correct' thing that you claim?
Actually, yes, from more experience than I'd like. However, this part isn't hard. You only have five things you EVER say to a pig.
1) No (if a pig asks to come inside, if her or she may search something)
2) Get off my property unless you have a warrant.
3) Why? (If a pig starts to search/enter over your objections, it's important to try and nail down their excuse in the moment)
4) Am I under arrest?
5) I want to speak with my lawyer.
Resist the urge to add pointless obscentity or insult. The pig is just doing its job. Rembember that the pig isn't so much an evil person as part of an evil system. Killing the pig is pointless unless it helps weaken the system. If the pig makes things personal, resist insult -- be polite, get the pigs name off the incident report, and then handle things later. Not hard to find out where a pig lives if you try.
Wouldn't they just change their tack... can you anticipate their every mo
So what. Every tactic involves the pig either manipulating your natural friendliness and standards of social behavoir to get you to talk or trying to intimidate you into talking. Just remember that the pig is not your friend and you should not treat a pig as if they were a regular member of society to which you have an obligation to behave courteously and with respect. And rember that no matter what a pig says, no matter what the situation, no matter how bad things look, there is never ANY benefit to talking to a pig until after you speak with your attorney.
You think you're innocent and everything will get cleared up easily if only you can explain things? So what. Your attorney can do it better. And your attorney probably won't get scared and talk his way into a felony beef. Better to risk spending a couple of days locked up than to talk to a pig and risk spending years or decades.
Rights are not supposed to be just for the people who know how to play the system.
You'd think, right? The Supreme Court disagrees though. Look up Salinas v Texas.
There are two sentences one should know.
As this is/. I've translated this into python:
print("Am I under arrest?")
if pig_input == yes:
#####print("I want to speak with my attorney")
else:
#####print("fuck off")
#####return quit
You'll need to delete the pound signs and insert tabs to avoid a syntax error.
I could probably hammer out javascript or PHP versions if you don't have python installed.
Which labor laws are you talking about? Minimum wage/overtime? OSHA and worker's comp? SSI/SSDI/Medicare taxes? Sexual harrasment liability? I mean we've got something like 6% private sector union penetration. Unless you admit to firing someone because of their sex, race, religion, or in some states sexual orientation....
You sure seem pissed about something, but damn if I can figure out waht it is.
That's not just not exactly cheap, that's 3x the cost of power here in California -- where we get raped on power prices compared to other states. At the sort of prices TFA lists, I'd be out of business, and lots of people would be living in the dark.
They don't want to be political anymore than you want them to be political. It's just that they have no choice.
Yeah, I hate that I have to consistently remind people that the Soviet Union was a totalitarian autocracy and using that sad state to discredit Communism is ridiculous. It's like using the Davidions to discredit Christianity.
I agree that we can no longer assume that common core American values are being represented in politics. After 30 years of relentless class warfare we are entering a new Gilded Age, and that forces us to engage to try and set things straight.
However, I ususally visit/. to avoid those conversations.
With the benefits accruing entirely to the owners of capital (except for a few crumbs given to the managers and techs who enable the process). Hence the need for the workers of the world to unite -- so we can get our fair share of the world's resources. Hopefully this can be accomplished through conventional political means, otherwise it's going to get awfully bloody.
In the past, the main goal of seizing drug money (in this case, the bitcoins) has been to gain evidence in building a drug case. Namely, that the physical set of bills was "sent from" a buyer and "received by" someone in exchange for illegal narcotics. The usage of said money to buy new jerseys for the police softball team was always a perk, but ultimately not relevant.
Do you actually believe this? I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so naive. Maybe I'm just missing the sarcasm.
Or maybe you're talking about police in your home country. Here in the U.S.A. police routinely seize valuables with little or no justification, relying on the threat of violence to get what they want in the street and then relying on their privileged positions within the legal and political systems to make sure no one can do anything about it.
Departments are routinely allowed to keep 80% of the money they seize, and the totals routinely reach the millions.
In 2008, the Department of Justice's forfeiture fund topped $1 billion. By contrast, in 1986, the year after [the law changed to allow departments to keep most of the money they seize], the fund took in $93.7 million. This money does not account for the hundreds of millions seized by state law enforcement agencies.
The money is the point of the seizures. Any evidentiary value is a bonus.
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...is how they've taken what used to be good paying American jobs and outsourced them to mordor. Their patent scumbaggery is galling, but it hasn't actually destroyed families who lost their livelyhood when Apple moved to China.
Democracies die behind closed doors bubba. Your attitude about public records being the exception rather than the rule is unfortunately too wide spread among government agencies. Thankfully, the law usually doesn't share your opinion.
I've never pulled CCW permit lists to look for mistakes on the forms. I did pull 'em to prove that the sheriff, who had a pretty restrictive policy about issuing them, made a habit of approving them to people who donated money to his reelection campaign.
the sudden decision that concealed carry permit applications were public records, and that some newspapers were getting the records and publishing maps of the houses of permit holders. Those who filled out the forms had no expectation that the data was a public record, and the form didn't tell them that it was.
If it's a government record, it's a public record. That should always be the assumption. Exceptions need to be exceedingly rare.
In the case of concealed carry permits, there's lot of room for malfesance by the issuing authority. You'll never find out about it if those records are exempt from disclosure.
Of course a better solution is to not require a government permit for exercising your second amendment rights.
which means $2400 a semester on housing, or $7200 a year. Not too terrible, depending on where you're at. So, why are you bitching about housing prices? Is it just 'cuz you actually see the bills instead of having 'em taken out of your financial aid award?
If he'd gotten arrested and charged at least he would have learned that you don't talk to cops. Ever.
I really despise how often this "they are just stupid" perception is passed off as true. No, they are not stupid. They may not tell you the _real_ reason why they are doing something, but you can bet your ass they have considered major aspects.
It should really hurt your head to believe that all of these laws and rulings are accidental. No, they are not. Someone has considered most of the consequences. How they are selling it to the general public probably has little to do with the result they are actually looking for. Used car salesmen love people like you!
I have covered the state legislature in three different states. I can say that actually, they really are that stupid. Though stupid is a bit over broad: most of the state legislators I've known lack perspective and experience. They also tend to be either a) ideologes or b) careerists or c) both. And many are indeed just stupid.
When you think of state government, picture a half bright real estate hustler in wayyyyy over their head, overscheduled and floundering as they try to pander effectively for the rich people back in their district. If it wasn't for leadership and lobbyists, they wouldn't know which way they're supposed to vote most the time. I almost wish they were competent enough to be the sort of Machiavelian politicos you're describing.
What's the problem with running two streams 24/7 on a 10mbit connection? Should be able to handle it.
by providing incredibly expensive data runs to people the rest of the industry can't be bothered servicing because there's not enough of them to make a profit on.
I seem to recall that we paid the telcos and MSOs to do just that. They then pocketed the money, bought off the regulators, and told us with a straight face that further network upgrades are too expensive and we should all just rely on LTE or something.
Pointing out that something the powers that be consider a crime may actually be an act of extra-legal social justice is a perfectly legitamate comment. Sometimes, the 'victim' really did have it coming. In no way is that the same thing as saying rape victims are at fault for dressing sexy. Nor is it necessarily "blaming the victim for having something a criminal wanted"; would you say the same if the victim was the Sheriff of Notingham?
I know almost nothing about the people involved in this case, but if I had to I'd bet that your read on the situation is correct and the commenter you reacted to is an idiot. Still, attacking anyone who questions the rights and wrongs of the situation is kinda dickish.
And your particular phrasing of "having something the criminal wanted" combined with your assumption that the commenter's 'life choices' are the sole cause of his present level of poverty or affluence strongly suggests your a right wing asshat who should be taken out and shot for the good of the nation.
Does he know of some nuclear option the rest of us aren't aware of?
I'd suggest Tyler Durden's approach. Bonus points for no radioactive fallout.
The purpose of Kelly Blue Book is to fool buyers about market prices -- it actually lists asking prices, but it sure doesn't make that obvious. Car dealers love them some KBB.
Two questions:
What's an unbonded bank?
if you know who stole your inheritance, why didn't you handle it? All I can figure is 1) it was a really small inheritance and you're not willing to stand on the principle of the thing 2) You're a punk or 3) You're an idiot who actually did kill the guy/gal in question but will then admit motive on /.
Depends. In general that won't happen because you're never going to talk to the cops period.
If they've got a case, then you're going to be paying for the lawyer anyway. If they don't then you walk. If they're fishing, then this means you don't talk your way into a charge.
Unless you're actively under investigation it's pointless to have an attorney represent you at this point anyway. All he or she will do is tell you to ignore anything the pigs say to you and keep your mouth shut.
It's important to remember that there's absent an actual ticking bomb, there's nothing you can get from talking to the pigs now that you couldn't get later -- the difference is that later you'll know exactly how strong or (usually) weak the case is against you.
There's nothing more depressing than reading a police report and realizing that the cops had little to nothing until the defendant -- now facing serious charges -- talked to them. This happens over and over and over and over again.
Also if you are charged it'll cost you much more than $1000 to hire a decent defense attorney. Try $5000-$10,000 minimum for a minor leauge felony or serious misdemeanor, even if you don't go to trial. My ex-brother in law and his father spent almost $200,000 for a highly regarded defense attorney to fight a federal dope case -- and that was without actually going to trial.
You don't need to have a lawyer come down 'so he could be questioned.' You ask "am I under arrest?." If the pig says anything other than 'yes' you walk out of the room. If the pig says yes you say "I want to speak with my attorney before talking to you."
Tell me, can you be so sure when faced with professional interrogators that you would do exactly the 'correct' thing that you claim?
Actually, yes, from more experience than I'd like. However, this part isn't hard. You only have five things you EVER say to a pig.
1) No (if a pig asks to come inside, if her or she may search something)
2) Get off my property unless you have a warrant.
3) Why? (If a pig starts to search/enter over your objections, it's important to try and nail down their excuse in the moment)
4) Am I under arrest?
5) I want to speak with my lawyer.
Resist the urge to add pointless obscentity or insult. The pig is just doing its job. Rembember that the pig isn't so much an evil person as part of an evil system. Killing the pig is pointless unless it helps weaken the system. If the pig makes things personal, resist insult -- be polite, get the pigs name off the incident report, and then handle things later. Not hard to find out where a pig lives if you try.
Wouldn't they just change their tack... can you anticipate their every mo
So what. Every tactic involves the pig either manipulating your natural friendliness and standards of social behavoir to get you to talk or trying to intimidate you into talking. Just remember that the pig is not your friend and you should not treat a pig as if they were a regular member of society to which you have an obligation to behave courteously and with respect. And rember that no matter what a pig says, no matter what the situation, no matter how bad things look, there is never ANY benefit to talking to a pig until after you speak with your attorney.
You think you're innocent and everything will get cleared up easily if only you can explain things? So what. Your attorney can do it better. And your attorney probably won't get scared and talk his way into a felony beef. Better to risk spending a couple of days locked up than to talk to a pig and risk spending years or decades.
Rights are not supposed to be just for the people who know how to play the system.
You'd think, right? The Supreme Court disagrees though. Look up Salinas v Texas.
There are two sentences one should know. As this is /. I've translated this into python:
print("Am I under arrest?")
if pig_input == yes:
#####print("I want to speak with my attorney")
else:
#####print("fuck off")
#####return quit
You'll need to delete the pound signs and insert tabs to avoid a syntax error.
I could probably hammer out javascript or PHP versions if you don't have python installed.
Which labor laws are you talking about? Minimum wage/overtime? OSHA and worker's comp? SSI/SSDI/Medicare taxes? Sexual harrasment liability? I mean we've got something like 6% private sector union penetration. Unless you admit to firing someone because of their sex, race, religion, or in some states sexual orientation.... You sure seem pissed about something, but damn if I can figure out waht it is.
That's not just not exactly cheap, that's 3x the cost of power here in California -- where we get raped on power prices compared to other states. At the sort of prices TFA lists, I'd be out of business, and lots of people would be living in the dark.
many countries around the world went on to implement and practice communism
Name one
They don't want to be political anymore than you want them to be political. It's just that they have no choice.
Yeah, I hate that I have to consistently remind people that the Soviet Union was a totalitarian autocracy and using that sad state to discredit Communism is ridiculous. It's like using the Davidions to discredit Christianity.
I agree that we can no longer assume that common core American values are being represented in politics. After 30 years of relentless class warfare we are entering a new Gilded Age, and that forces us to engage to try and set things straight.
However, I ususally visit /. to avoid those conversations.
With the benefits accruing entirely to the owners of capital (except for a few crumbs given to the managers and techs who enable the process). Hence the need for the workers of the world to unite -- so we can get our fair share of the world's resources. Hopefully this can be accomplished through conventional political means, otherwise it's going to get awfully bloody.
"Seriously, no touch screen display in the Odyssey, what are they thinking?" This is why Osama hates us.
Did you create the new profile under the same name?
...of "Duh" magazine.
In the past, the main goal of seizing drug money (in this case, the bitcoins) has been to gain evidence in building a drug case. Namely, that the physical set of bills was "sent from" a buyer and "received by" someone in exchange for illegal narcotics. The usage of said money to buy new jerseys for the police softball team was always a perk, but ultimately not relevant.
Do you actually believe this? I find it hard to believe that anyone could be so naive. Maybe I'm just missing the sarcasm.
Or maybe you're talking about police in your home country. Here in the U.S.A. police routinely seize valuables with little or no justification, relying on the threat of violence to get what they want in the street and then relying on their privileged positions within the legal and political systems to make sure no one can do anything about it.
Departments are routinely allowed to keep 80% of the money they seize, and the totals routinely reach the millions.
From the ACLU:
The money is the point of the seizures. Any evidentiary value is a bonus.