Well, first off, "EVERY major browser" renders pages differently because few of them actually follow the html standard, not to mention that most web pages don't follow the standards either.
Second, if an office app actually meets the OpenDocument STANDARD, they won't have "features" that are unsupported in other applications.
It's exactly this sort of crap that the MA government is trying to avoid in the future, the whole point of this move is not to make sure their documents will look exactly the same 5 years from now, but to make sure that their DATA is easily accessible 50 years from now.
I think really what we disagree about is who is a Christian. A Christian in demographic terms is a person who says he believes in Jesus as more than historical figure. For me, that's not a Christian.
Believing in Jesus is not enough! People who stop their learning about the faith at sunday-school level are missing what the true essense of being a Christian is about.
I hate to say this, but that is just the sort of intelectual bigotry that is perpetuating this problem. Just because you believe that they are not proper christians, won't stop them from believing that they are, and that their view of the world is correct. Just telling them that they are wrong won't make them any less of a problem for the rest of us. It is the duty of the scientific community as a whole, whatever their religious belief, to help educate everyone, so that they can understand the world to the best of their ability.
This is, I believe, the key to the whole issue of ID. Those who have created, and are promoting this idea are composed of those who have only a simplistic, black or white, understanding of their faith, and the world in general. I think these are people who, for whatever reason, are unwilling or unable to think for themselves. They want to believe that there is a simple explanation for the world, and that following a simple set of rules will allow them to be successful in life.
This is all well and good for them, and I have no objection to them leading their lives in this fashion. My objection comes when they try to force their beliefs on the rest of the world, and to limit others to their own level of understanding.
Whatever the label; christian, scientist, etc. we cannot allow our educational system to be controlled by one group, students should be given all the facts in a clear unbiased manner, and be allowed to draw their own conclusions.
That said, I don't believe that ID represents a valid theory, and won't until someone can provide concrete, verifiable and reproducable evidence that god, or this intelligence, exists. Until such time, ID is not a valid topic for science classes, and discussion of it should be limited to philosophy and religion classrooms.
I did something similar when I was working a rotating shift at an operations center. I just made my day about an hour longer than normal, and I was able to smoothly shift my sleep cycle to match my work schedule.
I was the only person in the op center who didn't feel half dead the first day or two of a new work week.
OK, first off you've obviously never actually used Gentoo, or you would know that your statment is entirely untrue.
The Gentoo package administration utility (portage) automatically performs a checksum comparison of all downloaded source files before compilation and/or installation. Valid checksum values for all portage managed packages are stored and distributed on the Gentoo mirrors, in the same manner that Red Hat provides checksum values for all their rpm packages.
Frankly, I think it's much more likely that some newbie Red Hat or Fedora Core admin will download and install a trojan rpm package off the net, than that an equivalent Gentoo admin will download a trojan source file of the net, compile it correctly, and install it.
I say this having administered both Rad Hat and Gentoo environments for several years.
IANAL, but there was a long discussion on this very topic on groklaw.
IIRC, the basic difference between the two is in the penalties for failing to comply with the license or contract. If you fail to comply with a license the only real penalty is loss of the privleges granted by the license. If you fail to comply with a contract, there are various penalties (usually defined within the contract itself.)
First, I would like to thank the/. team for all there hard work and dedication during the events of this week.
I am a regular reader of/. and have, over the years, tended to take the internet for granted, as a source of entertainment.
Tuesdays disaster has reminded me of the gaol that drove the original design of the internet: communication in times of disaster. The US government first created the DARPANET as a means to maintain communication in times of war, anly later did it evolve into a means of global information exchange.
I am glad to the sites such as/. have not forgotten this. They remind us all of what an important and necessary communication tool the internet is.
Recently we've been seeing articles on the 'open source only, for government use' initiatives that are taking place around the world (primarily in South America). I have also heard the discussions of similar actions among some municipal governments in the U. S. Are there any agencies in the federal government considering a similar shift in policy?
I just read an article about this last week. If I understand it properly, a C2 certification is only applicable to a specific software, hardware and network configuration. In the case of MS it was NT 3.51 with all patches running on a Compaq Proliant server (can't remember which one exactly) in a stand-alone environment. This is the ONLY situation in which Microsoft can claim to have C2 certification.
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Even better, just swap in a random image from google images or yahoo search.
Well, first off, "EVERY major browser" renders pages differently because few of them actually follow the html standard, not to mention that most web pages don't follow the standards either.
Second, if an office app actually meets the OpenDocument STANDARD, they won't have "features" that are unsupported in other applications.
It's exactly this sort of crap that the MA government is trying to avoid in the future, the whole point of this move is not to make sure their documents will look exactly the same 5 years from now, but to make sure that their DATA is easily accessible 50 years from now.
I think really what we disagree about is who is a Christian. A Christian in demographic terms is a person who says he believes in Jesus as more than historical figure. For me, that's not a Christian.
Believing in Jesus is not enough! People who stop their learning about the faith at sunday-school level are missing what the true essense of being a Christian is about.
I hate to say this, but that is just the sort of intelectual bigotry that is perpetuating this problem. Just because you believe that they are not proper christians, won't stop them from believing that they are, and that their view of the world is correct. Just telling them that they are wrong won't make them any less of a problem for the rest of us. It is the duty of the scientific community as a whole, whatever their religious belief, to help educate everyone, so that they can understand the world to the best of their ability.
This is, I believe, the key to the whole issue of ID. Those who have created, and are promoting this idea are composed of those who have only a simplistic, black or white, understanding of their faith, and the world in general. I think these are people who, for whatever reason, are unwilling or unable to think for themselves. They want to believe that there is a simple explanation for the world, and that following a simple set of rules will allow them to be successful in life.
This is all well and good for them, and I have no objection to them leading their lives in this fashion. My objection comes when they try to force their beliefs on the rest of the world, and to limit others to their own level of understanding.
Whatever the label; christian, scientist, etc. we cannot allow our educational system to be controlled by one group, students should be given all the facts in a clear unbiased manner, and be allowed to draw their own conclusions.
That said, I don't believe that ID represents a valid theory, and won't until someone can provide concrete, verifiable and reproducable evidence that god, or this intelligence, exists. Until such time, ID is not a valid topic for science classes, and discussion of it should be limited to philosophy and religion classrooms.
OK, I just had to try this out. Installed really quick, and seems easy to use. I've already cleaned up my most frequent websites in ten minutes.
:)
Definately two thumbs up!
I did something similar when I was working a rotating shift at an operations center. I just made my day about an hour longer than normal, and I was able to smoothly shift my sleep cycle to match my work schedule.
I was the only person in the op center who didn't feel half dead the first day or two of a new work week.
OK, first off you've obviously never actually used Gentoo, or you would know that your statment is entirely untrue.
The Gentoo package administration utility (portage) automatically performs a checksum comparison of all downloaded source files before compilation and/or installation. Valid checksum values for all portage managed packages are stored and distributed on the Gentoo mirrors, in the same manner that Red Hat provides checksum values for all their rpm packages.
Frankly, I think it's much more likely that some newbie Red Hat or Fedora Core admin will download and install a trojan rpm package off the net, than that an equivalent Gentoo admin will download a trojan source file of the net, compile it correctly, and install it.
I say this having administered both Rad Hat and Gentoo environments for several years.
A license, by definition, is not a contract.
IANAL, but there was a long discussion on this very topic on groklaw.
IIRC, the basic difference between the two is in the penalties for failing to comply with the license or contract. If you fail to comply with a license the only real penalty is loss of the privleges granted by the license. If you fail to comply with a contract, there are various penalties (usually defined within the contract itself.)
So, to put it simply, you're not the truth.
The first time was during the early 90's and everyone who walked out moved right in to a better position almost immediately.
OTOH, I saw it another group try it again about two years ago... I think some of those guys are still looking for jobs...
In todays economy something like this is the equivalent of playing russian roulette with 5 bullets in the six-shooter.
I just finished watching and The show closed with these fateful words...
Let's hope they're not just stringing us along!
First, I would like to thank the /. team for all there hard work and dedication during the events of this week.
/. and have, over the years, tended to take the internet for granted, as a source of entertainment.
/. have not forgotten this. They remind us all of what an important and necessary communication tool the internet is.
I am a regular reader of
Tuesdays disaster has reminded me of the gaol that drove the original design of the internet: communication in times of disaster. The US government first created the DARPANET as a means to maintain communication in times of war, anly later did it evolve into a means of global information exchange.
I am glad to the sites such as
Once again, thank you.
Recently we've been seeing articles on the 'open source only, for government use' initiatives that are taking place around the world (primarily in South America). I have also heard the discussions of similar actions among some municipal governments in the U. S. Are there any agencies in the federal government considering a similar shift in policy?
I just read an article about this last week. If I understand it properly, a C2 certification is only applicable to a specific software, hardware and network configuration.
:)
In the case of MS it was NT 3.51 with all patches running on a Compaq Proliant server (can't remember which one exactly) in a stand-alone environment. This is the ONLY situation in which Microsoft can claim to have C2 certification.
I may be wrong, but I doubt it