What a load. Of course we can get a rocket to the moon now. It is landing men on the moon and getting them back that is impossible. I mean if it was possible would we have stopped doing it for all these years? I mean if we could really land men on the moon forty years ago then we should still be doing it now.
Yes I am kidding but when I actually think about it is start to cry.
Well if you could find the center of the universe the point at which the big bang happened and parked a black hole there then you would have a mass at a point in space that isn't moving... I know that must be wrong but just trying to figure out why gives me a splitting headache.
Not at all but F-Spot and Beagle are both very good programs and both are written in Mono. I have yet to learn Mono or c# I honestly would rather work in Java which I know of c++ which I know. I like Java's object model better than c++ but I like the native look and feel of c++. Speed for most applications isn't an issue. Most of the applications I work with are io bound. I am waiting on the user for input or the database to handle the query. A lot more time is waiting for the user to be honest. Postgres is pretty fast even on an old PIII that we use for our server at work. I have heard a lot of people like working in.net c# and mono. I am not fond of the politics involved but I have heard good things about the environment. It is just too easy to bash something that you don't even use.
I really don't think they would us mySQL. mySQL is great for some environments but not this one. My guess is Oracle or DB2 as the back end. Both of those will scale better than mySQL and both have much better data integrity than mySQL offers.
Actually from what I have seen.net is a good development environment. Mono has produced some very nice software for the Linux desktop that lots of people use. What I didn't get from this story was just what they where using for the development system? I doubt that it is all in c or c++ so maybe they are using mono.
Sorry I know I shouldn't bother but FOSS does not have to destroy proprietary software. There is room for both. I use both on a daily basis. The problem is with the zelots on both sides.
Actually I am surprised at this win. Not that it wasn't great but Nobel's tend to go more theoretical work than this. Making very pure fibers seems more engineering than science to me. I do think this is a good choice but I think the reason it took so long was that really only now did the committee understand just how important that was. Heck Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce never got one and they where the fathers of the integrated circuit.
"RMS correctly points out that the war was won long ago - by a recognition of the value of the GPL and of free software. It's quite easy to understand - most people, when they give away their work, have a common moral compass, and they share certain values about how they would like to see that work go out into the world. i.e. They would rather some 3rd party not get paid for what they did for free." Well first I do actually like and us Linux but. 1. "They would rather some 3rd party not get paid for what they did for free." Not at all. GPL software is used to make lots of money. Red Hat is a good example but Palm, Google, and number of other companies make a lot of money off of free software that others wrote. A huge number of Internet hosting companies as well make a lot of money from GPL programmers work. 2. Moral compass? Please get down of the cross. It is just software. I have contributed GPL code I do it because I use GPL code and I want to. This is not some great moral issue. I also write and sell closed source software. That pays my bills and allows me to contribute GPL code. 3.GPL so has not won. People understood the value of sharing code long before there was a GPL. I gave away source code long before there was a GPL. Before GPL we had public domain software. GPL has not beaten Microsoft at all. Microsoft still provides a better desktop experience for the majority of users. The simple reason is because of the applications available. Gimp is great but it isn't Photoshop. Nothing in GPL will replace Solidworks or ProE. Even Exchange which is a freaking nightmare doesn't really have a great GPL replacement that works as seamlessly and offers resource scheduling. BTW if you know of a complete Exchange/Outlook replacement that is GPL I would love too hear about it. Oh and it must work for Windows, Mac, Linux, Palm, iPhone, Blackberry, and Android. Okay it must work for at least Windows and Palm WebOS. I would love to not have to have Windows on my desktop but I must. If I have too guess what GPL hasn't won. GPL is a great idea and has produced some great software but it has not won.
AND IT IS JUST FREAKING SOFTWARE PEOPLE. STOP PRETENDING THAT IT IS THE SECOND COMING, CURED CANCER, SET THE SLAVES FREE, TAUGHT THE LAME TO WALK AND THE BLIND TO SEE! RMS has done less for mankind than the average guy that helps out habitat for humanity on the weekends.
It was an interesting social experiment. Even when I put the the line saying I was joking people didn't get it. It proves that one can not post anything on slashdot so silly that somebody will not think your are serious. What is worse is I fear that you can not post anything so stupid and sill on the internet that you can not find somebody that agrees with you.
Move to North Korea then. Unless your Boeing and building the Delta and Atlas space is not a big money maker. What would you want him to do then? NASA doesn't have the budget to invest in this so he found investors that where willing to pay for it. He is not going to get Microsoft or even Google rich off this. He will be lucky if his company doesn't go bankrupt like most space tech companies do. And who else would by a plasma thruster but NASA? Good freaking grief this person has done nothing wrong.
If communism is a religion then so must atheism. Religion is not the problem. When ever people bring up how religion caused deaths it is a red herring. It most often was a totalitarian government using religion as a front. Governments that put the well being of the people in first and are answerable to the people are the ones that can be trusted. The rest is just bigoted clap trap. People forget that Gandhi and MLK where both highly religious while Stalin and Mao where "enlightened" atheists.
Nope your wrong. All the research in the subject shows that your are incorrect. But even your example is silly. A sign over the road will be in your field of view while driving on the road. You may have a light decrease in safety but a lot less of one than texting or reading email. When texting you will have to take the device out of your pocket or grab it off the console. Hit a button to see the text. Read the text which has nothing to do with driving. Decide what to do with the information that has nothing to do with the task at hand. And then look back out at the road. This is a distraction. To give you a good example it is a lot going "heads down" while flying. That is why fighters have for years put in heads up displays. They present needing information in the pilots field of view. Your wrong about driving and no I am really not a safety nut but I understand human factors a bit and I understand something about risk management. You do not need to read email or text messages while driving. If you must be in communications then get a hands free headset and tell them to call you if it is life or death.
You make it out that all lobbyists are evil. So if the medal of honor winner is trying to get congress to spend money on new state of the art body armor that is terrible? Or a new rife that doesn't jam all the time? Well that depends if you a soldier or not. I would love to see no lobbyists or salespeople but we do not live in that world. If you believe that what you are selling or lobbying for is actually the right choice then why would it be wrong? Greenpeace lobbies congress as do other groups is that wrong? What is worse is this guy isn't doing any of that. He is working on developing a new space propulsion system with private money. This is really cool. It is no different than what SpaceX is doing.
Okay let's start off with why your nuts. 1. His Astronaut training that he got from NASA would have ZERO to do with a plasma rocket. He would get lots of training on how to operate the Space Shuttle systems and how to try and not die if things went very wrong. 2. His time in the advanced propulsion department might have something to do with with this but NASA doesn't make stuff. They may design stuff but then they have outside companies build the stuff.
In this case he is probably taking a project that was getting less funding than is spent on research of the American Bison flea and is getting outside funding for it. You really don't get rich starting a space technology company. It is a passion for a lot of people and I would say good show and I hope it works.
"Ones with secular governments that keep religion out of government policy and decisions. " You mean like the USSR, China, and North Korea? Countries that have official policies of atheism have caused more death and misery than any religious countries. You take the death toll from Stalin and China alone and you will have a lot more deaths than from the Nazi Holocaust. And trust me that beats out the inquisition and the crusades by at least an order of magnitude. You can find the numbers for yourself if you wish.
Countries that seem to have to answer to the people seem to be the only trust worthy nations. It doesn't matter if they have a religious influence or not.
Since when has France been a superpower? Right now I hope that Israel holds off. Iran is talking about transferring it's uranium to Russia. Which is odd because Russia has never been a good friend to Iran. Also we can hope that the current government will be taken out of office soon. While the opposition is in no way I can see pro west his is not a complete whack job.
Small light nuclear weapons are late 1950 to early 1960 tech. The US fielded Polaris in the early 1960s and it used a small, light, warhead. You do not have to make a w-88 class warhead to be a threat.
Yes the 780g and later graphics chips are great for integrated graphics. I built my wife a system with a 780g and an AMD low power X2 cpu. She loves it because it is so quit and doesn't heat up the room like her old system did. But ATI/AMD doesn't offer an Atom class system for netbooks and it doesn't offer an Atom chipset to compete with ION. I am not so sure about flash hardware acceleration everywhere yet. This from June http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1243934217700.html only talks about nVidia and I couldn't find anything about ATI but I might have missed it. Flash so isn't dieing. I wish that it would die but it is alive and well and thriving. YouTube and Hulu are prime examples of how Flash is alive and well. Would I like to see Flash replaced with an open standard? Yes but that has not happened yet. Theora with out native IE and Safari support is DOA. Yes I know about OpenCL the problem is that CUDA is ahead of it. I want more support for OpenCL and less for CUDA. Tegra is interesting but TI has a TI has OMAP which is very Tegra like as is the the Qualcomn Snapdragon. nVidia sure isn't DOA and lots of people buy their cards and will for a long time. The ZuneHD is using the Tegra and that alone will bring in a nice chunk of cash. I have no real love for nVidia except that I have had a lot better luck with the nVidia graphics cards I have owned than the ATI cards. The exception is the Asus 780g motherboard in my wife's pc.
It is okay to divert your attention when the conditions allow it. Yes but way too many people already have proven that they are incapable of making that judgment. The other issue is how do you know 100% when that is? Yes people will fiddle with the radio but you are so much better off with using the pre-programmed buttons that every modern or even not all that modern radio comes with or the scan that every modern comes with than trying to tune the radio to 101.7 by hand. My brother is working on his PHD in human factors. His field of study is automotive systems. Guess what? People have a lot of wrecks fiddling with the radio. That is one of the reasons why the have the pre-programed buttons and the scan. The help but they still cause accidents. However NOBODY CAN READ EMAILS OR TEXT MESSAGES WHILE DRIVING AND BE SAFE!
Actually a lot. They have the ION platform which is much better than what Intel supplies for netbooks and nettops. They have hardware flash acceleration coming. They used to have the best Linux drivers but I have not been keeping up with ATI's progress with their closed source drivers or the open source drivers that people are working on with the specs that ATI released. And they have a lot of mindshare and support from game makers. I just hope that Nvidia gets heading back in the right direction. It is good to have both nVidia and ATI in the GPU space. And it would be even better if they worked out interoperability for things like Flash, video decoding , video encoding and physics. OpenCL baby. Come on ATI and show use that we don't need NVidia. I want an Atom/ION smasher from you as well as GPU support for Physics and Video encode and decoding and make it work for Linux while your at it.
Yes I know what a cyclotron is so the joke was intentional.
No your probably incorrect. You are no differn't than the vast majority of people that have served the military from the beginning of time. You would probably do exactly what they did and still do in that situation. My Uncle was the kindest man you would ever want to meet. He got my home town it's first hosptial and they still name a wing after him. He used to throw cook outs for his block and 40 or 50 of his closest friends would come. He also had a scare from where his watch branded him. His tank was hit in WWII and his watch got so hot it left a burn scare on his wrist. He was reported killed in action twice in. He had a lot of metals and helped liberate one of the Nazi death camps. You are not any more enlighted or better than the average GI that can go out and kill. You just have not been forced to because you are sitting safe at your PC feeling smug. BTW killing for most solders isn't easy they do it because the have too and often pay a price for it for the rest of their lives. That is why you don't send solders into combat for stupid reasons, what they have to do is the reason why we get sit safe at home.
Actually I find this very interesting. I wounder if domestic violence might be caused by a failure of this? Or bullies? Or could being the victim of domestic violence cause a failure of this mechanism which then caused domestic violence to propagate in families?
You win and thank you for playing! Please read the last line of my post for your prize! BTW they are also called. USED BOOK STORES and are actually really common.
While driving? Don't you have them pre programed on buttons? I have no need to look at my radio to see what station I am on while driving. I just hit the button I need by feel and know that is NPR, or what other channel I need. If I am out of town I just hit scan until I find something interesting. No need to look a way from the road at all.
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What a load. Of course we can get a rocket to the moon now. It is landing men on the moon and getting them back that is impossible. I mean if it was possible would we have stopped doing it for all these years? I mean if we could really land men on the moon forty years ago then we should still be doing it now.
Yes I am kidding but when I actually think about it is start to cry.
Well if you could find the center of the universe the point at which the big bang happened and parked a black hole there then you would have a mass at a point in space that isn't moving...
I know that must be wrong but just trying to figure out why gives me a splitting headache.
Not at all but F-Spot and Beagle are both very good programs and both are written in Mono. .net c# and mono. I am not fond of the politics involved but I have heard good things about the environment.
I have yet to learn Mono or c# I honestly would rather work in Java which I know of c++ which I know. I like Java's object model better than c++ but I like the native look and feel of c++.
Speed for most applications isn't an issue. Most of the applications I work with are io bound. I am waiting on the user for input or the database to handle the query. A lot more time is waiting for the user to be honest. Postgres is pretty fast even on an old PIII that we use for our server at work.
I have heard a lot of people like working in
It is just too easy to bash something that you don't even use.
I really don't think they would us mySQL.
mySQL is great for some environments but not this one. My guess is Oracle or DB2 as the back end.
Both of those will scale better than mySQL and both have much better data integrity than mySQL offers.
Actually from what I have seen .net is a good development environment. Mono has produced some very nice software for the Linux desktop that lots of people use. What I didn't get from this story was just what they where using for the development system?
I doubt that it is all in c or c++ so maybe they are using mono.
Sorry I know I shouldn't bother but FOSS does not have to destroy proprietary software. There is room for both. I use both on a daily basis.
The problem is with the zelots on both sides.
Sorry my bad Kilby did get his in 2000. Noyce died in 90 so he never got one.
Actually I am surprised at this win. Not that it wasn't great but Nobel's tend to go more theoretical work than this. Making very pure fibers seems more engineering than science to me.
I do think this is a good choice but I think the reason it took so long was that really only now did the committee understand just how important that was. Heck Jack Kilby and Robert Noyce never got one and they where the fathers of the integrated circuit.
"RMS correctly points out that the war was won long ago - by a recognition of the value of the GPL and of free software. It's quite easy to understand - most people, when they give away their work, have a common moral compass, and they share certain values about how they would like to see that work go out into the world. i.e. They would rather some 3rd party not get paid for what they did for free."
Well first I do actually like and us Linux but.
1. "They would rather some 3rd party not get paid for what they did for free." Not at all. GPL software is used to make lots of money. Red Hat is a good example but Palm, Google, and number of other companies make a lot of money off of free software that others wrote. A huge number of Internet hosting companies as well make a lot of money from GPL programmers work.
2. Moral compass? Please get down of the cross. It is just software. I have contributed GPL code I do it because I use GPL code and I want to. This is not some great moral issue. I also write and sell closed source software. That pays my bills and allows me to contribute GPL code.
3.GPL so has not won. People understood the value of sharing code long before there was a GPL. I gave away source code long before there was a GPL. Before GPL we had public domain software. GPL has not beaten Microsoft at all. Microsoft still provides a better desktop experience for the majority of users. The simple reason is because of the applications available. Gimp is great but it isn't Photoshop. Nothing in GPL will replace Solidworks or ProE. Even Exchange which is a freaking nightmare doesn't really have a great GPL replacement that works as seamlessly and offers resource scheduling. BTW if you know of a complete Exchange/Outlook replacement that is GPL I would love too hear about it. Oh and it must work for Windows, Mac, Linux, Palm, iPhone, Blackberry, and Android. Okay it must work for at least Windows and Palm WebOS.
I would love to not have to have Windows on my desktop but I must. If I have too guess what GPL hasn't won. GPL is a great idea and has produced some great software but it has not won.
AND IT IS JUST FREAKING SOFTWARE PEOPLE. STOP PRETENDING THAT IT IS THE SECOND COMING, CURED CANCER, SET THE SLAVES FREE, TAUGHT THE LAME TO WALK AND THE BLIND TO SEE!
RMS has done less for mankind than the average guy that helps out habitat for humanity on the weekends.
It was an interesting social experiment.
Even when I put the the line saying I was joking people didn't get it.
It proves that one can not post anything on slashdot so silly that somebody will not think your are serious. What is worse is I fear that you can not post anything so stupid and sill on the internet that you can not find somebody that agrees with you.
Move to North Korea then. Unless your Boeing and building the Delta and Atlas space is not a big money maker.
What would you want him to do then? NASA doesn't have the budget to invest in this so he found investors that where willing to pay for it.
He is not going to get Microsoft or even Google rich off this. He will be lucky if his company doesn't go bankrupt like most space tech companies do. And who else would by a plasma thruster but NASA?
Good freaking grief this person has done nothing wrong.
If communism is a religion then so must atheism. Religion is not the problem. When ever people bring up how religion caused deaths it is a red herring. It most often was a totalitarian government using religion as a front. Governments that put the well being of the people in first and are answerable to the people are the ones that can be trusted. The rest is just bigoted clap trap. People forget that Gandhi and MLK where both highly religious while Stalin and Mao where "enlightened" atheists.
Nope your wrong.
All the research in the subject shows that your are incorrect.
But even your example is silly. A sign over the road will be in your field of view while driving on the road. You may have a light decrease in safety but a lot less of one than texting or reading email.
When texting you will have to take the device out of your pocket or grab it off the console.
Hit a button to see the text.
Read the text which has nothing to do with driving.
Decide what to do with the information that has nothing to do with the task at hand.
And then look back out at the road.
This is a distraction. To give you a good example it is a lot going "heads down" while flying. That is why fighters have for years put in heads up displays. They present needing information in the pilots field of view.
Your wrong about driving and no I am really not a safety nut but I understand human factors a bit and I understand something about risk management.
You do not need to read email or text messages while driving. If you must be in communications then get a hands free headset and tell them to call you if it is life or death.
You make it out that all lobbyists are evil. So if the medal of honor winner is trying to get congress to spend money on new state of the art body armor that is terrible? Or a new rife that doesn't jam all the time? Well that depends if you a soldier or not.
I would love to see no lobbyists or salespeople but we do not live in that world. If you believe that what you are selling or lobbying for is actually the right choice then why would it be wrong?
Greenpeace lobbies congress as do other groups is that wrong?
What is worse is this guy isn't doing any of that. He is working on developing a new space propulsion system with private money. This is really cool. It is no different than what SpaceX is doing.
Okay let's start off with why your nuts.
1. His Astronaut training that he got from NASA would have ZERO to do with a plasma rocket. He would get lots of training on how to operate the Space Shuttle systems and how to try and not die if things went very wrong.
2. His time in the advanced propulsion department might have something to do with with this but NASA doesn't make stuff. They may design stuff but then they have outside companies build the stuff.
In this case he is probably taking a project that was getting less funding than is spent on research of the American Bison flea and is getting outside funding for it. You really don't get rich starting a space technology company. It is a passion for a lot of people and I would say good show and I hope it works.
"Ones with secular governments that keep religion out of government policy and decisions. "
You mean like the USSR, China, and North Korea?
Countries that have official policies of atheism have caused more death and misery than any religious countries.
You take the death toll from Stalin and China alone and you will have a lot more deaths than from the Nazi Holocaust. And trust me that beats out the inquisition and the crusades by at least an order of magnitude.
You can find the numbers for yourself if you wish.
Countries that seem to have to answer to the people seem to be the only trust worthy nations. It doesn't matter if they have a religious influence or not.
Since when has France been a superpower?
Right now I hope that Israel holds off. Iran is talking about transferring it's uranium to Russia. Which is odd because Russia has never been a good friend to Iran. Also we can hope that the current government will be taken out of office soon. While the opposition is in no way I can see pro west his is not a complete whack job.
Small light nuclear weapons are late 1950 to early 1960 tech. The US fielded Polaris in the early 1960s and it used a small, light, warhead.
You do not have to make a w-88 class warhead to be a threat.
Yes the 780g and later graphics chips are great for integrated graphics. I built my wife a system with a 780g and an AMD low power X2 cpu. She loves it because it is so quit and doesn't heat up the room like her old system did.
But ATI/AMD doesn't offer an Atom class system for netbooks and it doesn't offer an Atom chipset to compete with ION.
I am not so sure about flash hardware acceleration everywhere yet. This from June http://www.nvidia.com/object/io_1243934217700.html only talks about nVidia and I couldn't find anything about ATI but I might have missed it. Flash so isn't dieing. I wish that it would die but it is alive and well and thriving. YouTube and Hulu are prime examples of how Flash is alive and well. Would I like to see Flash replaced with an open standard? Yes but that has not happened yet. Theora with out native IE and Safari support is DOA.
Yes I know about OpenCL the problem is that CUDA is ahead of it. I want more support for OpenCL and less for CUDA.
Tegra is interesting but TI has a TI has OMAP which is very Tegra like as is the the Qualcomn Snapdragon.
nVidia sure isn't DOA and lots of people buy their cards and will for a long time.
The ZuneHD is using the Tegra and that alone will bring in a nice chunk of cash.
I have no real love for nVidia except that I have had a lot better luck with the nVidia graphics cards I have owned than the ATI cards. The exception is the Asus 780g motherboard in my wife's pc.
It is okay to divert your attention when the conditions allow it. Yes but way too many people already have proven that they are incapable of making that judgment. The other issue is how do you know 100% when that is?
Yes people will fiddle with the radio but you are so much better off with using the pre-programmed buttons that every modern or even not all that modern radio comes with or the scan that every modern comes with than trying to tune the radio to 101.7 by hand.
My brother is working on his PHD in human factors. His field of study is automotive systems. Guess what? People have a lot of wrecks fiddling with the radio. That is one of the reasons why the have the pre-programed buttons and the scan. The help but they still cause accidents.
However NOBODY CAN READ EMAILS OR TEXT MESSAGES WHILE DRIVING AND BE SAFE!
Actually a lot.
They have the ION platform which is much better than what Intel supplies for netbooks and nettops.
They have hardware flash acceleration coming.
They used to have the best Linux drivers but I have not been keeping up with ATI's progress with their closed source drivers or the open source drivers that people are working on with the specs that ATI released.
And they have a lot of mindshare and support from game makers. I just hope that Nvidia gets heading back in the right direction. It is good to have both nVidia and ATI in the GPU space. And it would be even better if they worked out interoperability for things like Flash, video decoding , video encoding and physics.
OpenCL baby. Come on ATI and show use that we don't need NVidia. I want an Atom/ION smasher from you as well as GPU support for Physics and Video encode and decoding and make it work for Linux while your at it.
Yes I know what a cyclotron is so the joke was intentional.
No your probably incorrect. You are no differn't than the vast majority of people that have served the military from the beginning of time. You would probably do exactly what they did and still do in that situation.
My Uncle was the kindest man you would ever want to meet. He got my home town it's first hosptial and they still name a wing after him. He used to throw cook outs for his block and 40 or 50 of his closest friends would come.
He also had a scare from where his watch branded him. His tank was hit in WWII and his watch got so hot it left a burn scare on his wrist.
He was reported killed in action twice in. He had a lot of metals and helped liberate one of the Nazi death camps.
You are not any more enlighted or better than the average GI that can go out and kill. You just have not been forced to because you are sitting safe at your PC feeling smug.
BTW killing for most solders isn't easy they do it because the have too and often pay a price for it for the rest of their lives. That is why you don't send solders into combat for stupid reasons, what they have to do is the reason why we get sit safe at home.
Actually I find this very interesting.
I wounder if domestic violence might be caused by a failure of this? Or bullies?
Or could being the victim of domestic violence cause a failure of this mechanism which then caused domestic violence to propagate in families?
You win and thank you for playing!
Please read the last line of my post for your prize!
BTW they are also called. USED BOOK STORES and are actually really common.
While driving?
Don't you have them pre programed on buttons? I have no need to look at my radio to see what station I am on while driving. I just hit the button I need by feel and know that is NPR, or what other channel I need. If I am out of town I just hit scan until I find something interesting.
No need to look a way from the road at all.