I use the USB flash as backup. I like having it on my at all times to take home just in case. I work on the idea that you can never have too many backups.
How would you transport a few gigabytes to a new location? FTP? External HD. DVD? And very large number of floppies? I take my source code home with me on a USB drive. I currently encrypt it but I could see this being even better.
Or get this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121359 You could make a fun little hack with that case and this motherboard. Run Linux and DOS box and your all set. Of course it isn't the same as actually getting the old hardware working.
Actually it is pretty dang hard to shoot down a Cessna 172 with the type of hardware your local drug lord can get a hold of. Think about it. It will probably be flying at around 1000 feet. It will also probably not right over your head. So the slant range is going to be pretty long. Next it will be flying at around 100 MPH. So unless you get something better than your average gun odds are you will not hit one without a lot of luck. That and I would think anybody standing around pointing a gun at the sky letting off a lot of rounds is going to attract a lot of attention.
Now if you got a nut job geek then maybe they could build a DIY anti-aircraft gun but I think even that would tend to attract a lot of attention.
What I see it as is a commercial developer friendly version of Linux. Odds are that it will. 1. Have an app store for people to sell apps. Yea the web based apps is all cool but I think that side of it is being over blown. 2. Will have Flash and codec support without having to get it from a none US repository. Google will pay for the rights. 3. It will come pre-installed for aunt Tilly.
The one thing I wonder about is will Google fork the Kernel and add a stable driver binary interface? If so will we soon see a lot more hardware support for Google Linux than traditional Linux.
"Even though Qt is a nutty blob of nonsense." We need a new moderation. -1 mindless zealot.
I have worked with GTK and it is actually a good toolkit if you only want to work in c. The C++ bindings are iffy and I have not used Mono yet and may not ever due to a lack of time. QT is also a very good toolkit and a much better choice if you want to work in C++.
I am shocked by that number and I do think it will change. I have an iPod Touch. I use it a good amount of the time to surf the web. When I am at home it is just easier to grab my iPod than to get out a notebook or go into the computer room. My wife has a Pre and she uses it a lot of the time to surf the web. Mobile devices are getting very good for web surfing. My wife used it to order some pictures to be printed while we where on the way to my mother's home. She used it to get prescriptions filled at Walgreens. Mobile is going to really rock.
Okay. 1. I am not and have never really been a fan of MJ but that fact that you must thrust him even into this shows you are part of the problem of which you speak. He is dead and I feel sorry for his family. 2. McNamara sucked. No really he was a walking talking disaster area. The complete re writing of history around JFK drives me nuts. McNamara and JFK over saw the largest increase in the nuclear stock pile in history. He made no agreements involving arms control except the Nuclear Test Band Treaty which was a good thing I will give you. Eisenhower tried to talk the the USSR about weapons but the U2 over flight really killed it. Eisenhower was really trying to limit the growth in arms and for some reason people forget that Kennedy ran on "The Missile Gap" to show that the republicans where weak on defense. Then we have the Bay of Pigs disaster. And the Cuban Missile Crisis Then we have Vietnam. McNamara's strange ideas in weapons development. He thought that since Ford could make several different models from one car the military could make a Navy fighter and an Air Force bomber out of the same plane. That actually produced a good bomber for the Air Force even if it was more expensive and complex than it needed to be. The fighter got canned after a lot of money was poured into it. Over all I agree with the idea that in general is a stupid waste of effort. Every thing else is just as silly.
It shouldn't have had to be done. This patent really smells of anti-trust to me since the only good reason to use it is for compatibility with Microsoft's products.
Yes it will not work and that is why we can not live in a world with just FOSS software and that is why Linux is not doing as well on the desktop as it could. Too many people in the "community" are hostile to none FOSS software. Games are another example of how FOSS doesn't always compete well with closed source. Yes I would also love to just deal with theory since it is so much simpler than the real world. I work for a software developer and we use some FOSS programs in our development and business. We have give code back to those products but we will never open our own product. If you think the practical issues for a 3D CAD program are hard imagine them for a very complex program with an even smaller market. The program we sell is well over 100,000 lines of code long and there are only 50,000 potental users on the face of the earth. So doing your communal development would be even harder. Then there is the other thing. Competition improves programs. If you have competing products then you must improve. If there was no Mac ther might not had been any Windows. Without Windows NT/XP there might not have been OS/X. People complain about Gnome and KDE duplicating efforts but I wonder if even that isn't healthy. But what it comes down to is people need programs right now that do not exists in FOSS version and honestly might never. If we can get more closed source programs running under Linux more people can use Linux as their desktop. The more people that use Linux the more interest in FOSS solutions and the less lock in. And I see the best way for that to happen is with an App Store. Plus if enough dumb people start using Linux and an app store I too might become rich with a 50 line fart app... Just kidding.
Yes but number one you would have to collect that money, pay the programmers and run the project. Then what about updates? Also you will have to wait for the software to be written. So far no large project like this has worked and people need software NOW. I actually work for a software company. There was a group of people that used a competing program from a company that went out of business. The users all got together and bought the rights to the source. Sounds like your dream open source situation doesn't it. They soon found out that the users group couldn't manage even one programmer. The software started to lag way behind the commercial products including ours. They the failed to figure out how to interface with a new device on the market that they really wanted to use. A user was friends with us and told us about it. We felt sorry for them and gave them source to interface with the device. It wasn't our device but we had figured it out and wanted to help out. After several months the other programmer still hadn't managed to port the code and get it working. In mass they bought our software because we where willing to help and our software was actually very good. I have a small sample of the system you have proposed but the failure rate is 100%. So I have to say it is possible but very unlikely and very risky. So prove me wrong. I will even give $10 for a 3d cad program as good as Solidworks if you promise it in less than two years. It will not happen.
But that is a problem. A big complex program costs a lot of money. It takes a lot of time to write, document, and test. It may take a team of people many man years. Nobody wants to pay that much for a program. Closed source allows you to spread the cost of development over a group of users. So yes in theory you could get several thousand people to all chip in $50 and then hire a team to write a game like Left4Dead but that just hasn't happened yet. That is why FOSS has yet to come up with great software that fills every need. There are some great FOSS programs but there are entire categories of software that FOSS flops at. So if you want say a 3D CAD system you have a choice. You can pay several millions of dollars and wait for your team of programmers to develop your CAD system or you can buy a copy of AutoDesk Designer or SolidWorks for a few thousand dollars.
They do exist because programmers where interested enough to create them for pay. I have been using Linux for over 10 years and I have been doing FOSS for more than 20. Guess what programming is hard work. People really do want to get paid for hard work. And people want software like that or it wouldn't exist so why not give an easy way for people to buy and sell both open and closed source software This Linux culture that you are talking about is a bunch of people that want everything for free. They care only about Free as in beer and the vast majority of them have never compiled a line of code much less written one.
Fine don't buy software but also don't take it. Charging people to distribute software IS PART OF THE GNU CULTURE! This blurb is right from GNU "Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU project is that you should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that you should charge as little as possible â" just enough to cover the cost.
Actually we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can. If this seems surprising to you, please read on.
The word âoefreeâ has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of âoefree softwareâ, we're talking about freedom, not price. (Think of âoefree speechâ, not âoefree beerâ.) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, change the program, and redistribute the program with or without changes."
Or XPlane or Left4Dead Steam is also an app store btw. Silly silly people. You don't want one so you lie and say that a repository is the same as an app store.
1. Apple does allow free as in beer software on their store. 2. Are you sure GPL software is not allowed? If it is then I would bet it is because of the NDA on the SDK that you have to sign. If so then that isn't a problem with a Linux Store unless they do something funky with the SDK. 3. The Android store does allow GPL software on their so there is an example of a Linuxish App store wirh free software.
I can not see anybody using Linux that would want to shut out access to GPL software. There is just too much good stuff. Now if you want to force people to only use GPL software by making it hard for developers to sell software that runs on Linux then yes this could be a big issue for you. I personally see room for both. The store could allow people to sell GPL software as well as closed source software. That is right there is nothing in the GPL that says that you can not sell / charge to distribute your software. Yes you would have to offer people the source code but how many users will want to compile software for themselves. Those that do will have that option. Oh and you only have to give the code to people that you distribute the binaries too.Making people pay you to give them a copy is totaly okay with the GPL. You just can not prevent them from then copying it and giving it to someone else.
I agree that letting the Telcos run the App store is a bad plan. Having a Linux App store would be great. Split the price of the software 80% for the Author, 10% for the Store, and 10% for the Distro/Telco and I think everyone will be happy. Unless you are bound to keep Linux a tiny part of the desktop market and not have any closed source apps run on it.
Really? So can you tell me where I submit my app and set a price? And how will they send me payment when people buy my app? Also where are the reviews and ratings? I mean that is what an App store does....
Oh yadda yadda yadda. Exactly which games in the Ubuntu repository matches those available on Steam again? Yes the apps on the iPhone tend to be very simple and a lot of them are free as in beer as well. TweetDeck which is also available on Linux is a good example. But you do have some programs on the iPhone that are very good. XPlane on the iPhone is a better flight sim than FlightGear under Linux. As to popcap games crap... They sell a lot of games and a lot of people really like them. Hey you don't so don't buy them. You like free stuff then that is fine and dandy but there are a lot of developers that want to get paid to write code and a lot of users willing to. If you don't that is fine but saying that a repository is the same as a store is just silly.
Honestly I would say that limiting to the Telcos is dumb. It is a good way for Distros to make money as well as developers. The price for the software could be split between the developer, the store, and the Distro/Telco with the developer getting the majority of the price, And just to put a stop to the "It's called a repository" statements. An app store would allow the developer to set a price and handle charging the customer and would just send a check to the developer. It would have reviews and ratings And would allow the developer to decide what version is available and not the distro. It should take care of dependencies just like a repository as well. That would be a huge leap for Linux on the desktop and would encourage commercial software development.
I find it so amusing the venom that people work up. Frankly I sort of agree with you withiut the venom. Of course there is also the fact that GameStop pays you a lot less for your game and than they sell it for and they might get to do it 10 times for one disk. Hey they are trying to make as much as possible just like the game companies. If you expect a company to do anything but that you are just silly
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I use the USB flash as backup. I like having it on my at all times to take home just in case. I work on the idea that you can never have too many backups.
Actually a hammer may not be good enough. There are some very strict rules for medical records and financial data that this could be useful for.
How would you transport a few gigabytes to a new location?
FTP?
External HD.
DVD?
And very large number of floppies?
I take my source code home with me on a USB drive. I currently encrypt it but I could see this being even better.
You could have gotten this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121359 and put it in the case with a few mods.
Might have made a nice little hack.
Or get this. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813121359
You could make a fun little hack with that case and this motherboard.
Run Linux and DOS box and your all set.
Of course it isn't the same as actually getting the old hardware working.
Actually it is pretty dang hard to shoot down a Cessna 172 with the type of hardware your local drug lord can get a hold of.
Think about it. It will probably be flying at around 1000 feet. It will also probably not right over your head. So the slant range is going to be pretty long. Next it will be flying at around 100 MPH.
So unless you get something better than your average gun odds are you will not hit one without a lot of luck.
That and I would think anybody standing around pointing a gun at the sky letting off a lot of rounds is going to attract a lot of attention.
Now if you got a nut job geek then maybe they could build a DIY anti-aircraft gun but I think even that would tend to attract a lot of attention.
What I see it as is a commercial developer friendly version of Linux.
Odds are that it will.
1. Have an app store for people to sell apps. Yea the web based apps is all cool but I think that side of it is being over blown.
2. Will have Flash and codec support without having to get it from a none US repository. Google will pay for the rights.
3. It will come pre-installed for aunt Tilly.
The one thing I wonder about is will Google fork the Kernel and add a stable driver binary interface? If so will we soon see a lot more hardware support for Google Linux than traditional Linux.
"Even though Qt is a nutty blob of nonsense."
We need a new moderation.
-1 mindless zealot.
I have worked with GTK and it is actually a good toolkit if you only want to work in c. The C++ bindings are iffy and I have not used Mono yet and may not ever due to a lack of time.
QT is also a very good toolkit and a much better choice if you want to work in C++.
I am shocked by that number and I do think it will change.
I have an iPod Touch. I use it a good amount of the time to surf the web. When I am at home it is just easier to grab my iPod than to get out a notebook or go into the computer room.
My wife has a Pre and she uses it a lot of the time to surf the web. Mobile devices are getting very good for web surfing.
My wife used it to order some pictures to be printed while we where on the way to my mother's home. She used it to get prescriptions filled at Walgreens.
Mobile is going to really rock.
Okay.
1. I am not and have never really been a fan of MJ but that fact that you must thrust him even into this shows you are part of the problem of which you speak. He is dead and I feel sorry for his family.
2. McNamara sucked. No really he was a walking talking disaster area. The complete re writing of history around JFK drives me nuts. McNamara and JFK over saw the largest increase in the nuclear stock pile in history. He made no agreements involving arms control except the Nuclear Test Band Treaty which was a good thing I will give you.
Eisenhower tried to talk the the USSR about weapons but the U2 over flight really killed it. Eisenhower was really trying to limit the growth in arms and for some reason people forget that Kennedy ran on "The Missile Gap" to show that the republicans where weak on defense.
Then we have the Bay of Pigs disaster.
And the Cuban Missile Crisis
Then we have Vietnam.
McNamara's strange ideas in weapons development. He thought that since Ford could make several different models from one car the military could make a Navy fighter and an Air Force bomber out of the same plane. That actually produced a good bomber for the Air Force even if it was more expensive and complex than it needed to be. The fighter got canned after a lot of money was poured into it.
Over all I agree with the idea that in general is a stupid waste of effort. Every thing else is just as silly.
Lunar Lander.
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I would say Gyrus but it would have a great sound track if the producers of RollerBall didn't sue you. Yes I am kidding...
Dude didn't I see you at the last Dead Concert?
No really man you got a hold of some primo stuff.
It shouldn't have had to be done.
This patent really smells of anti-trust to me since the only good reason to use it is for compatibility with Microsoft's products.
Yes it will not work and that is why we can not live in a world with just FOSS software and that is why Linux is not doing as well on the desktop as it could. Too many people in the "community" are hostile to none FOSS software.
Games are another example of how FOSS doesn't always compete well with closed source.
Yes I would also love to just deal with theory since it is so much simpler than the real world.
I work for a software developer and we use some FOSS programs in our development and business. We have give code back to those products but we will never open our own product.
If you think the practical issues for a 3D CAD program are hard imagine them for a very complex program with an even smaller market. The program we sell is well over 100,000 lines of code long and there are only 50,000 potental users on the face of the earth. So doing your communal development would be even harder. Then there is the other thing. Competition improves programs. If you have competing products then you must improve. If there was no Mac ther might not had been any Windows. Without Windows NT/XP there might not have been OS/X. People complain about Gnome and KDE duplicating efforts but I wonder if even that isn't healthy.
But what it comes down to is people need programs right now that do not exists in FOSS version and honestly might never. If we can get more closed source programs running under Linux more people can use Linux as their desktop.
The more people that use Linux the more interest in FOSS solutions and the less lock in.
And I see the best way for that to happen is with an App Store.
Plus if enough dumb people start using Linux and an app store I too might become rich with a 50 line fart app... Just kidding.
Yes but number one you would have to collect that money, pay the programmers and run the project.
Then what about updates?
Also you will have to wait for the software to be written.
So far no large project like this has worked and people need software NOW.
I actually work for a software company. There was a group of people that used a competing program from a company that went out of business.
The users all got together and bought the rights to the source. Sounds like your dream open source situation doesn't it.
They soon found out that the users group couldn't manage even one programmer. The software started to lag way behind the commercial products including ours. They the failed to figure out how to interface with a new device on the market that they really wanted to use.
A user was friends with us and told us about it. We felt sorry for them and gave them source to interface with the device. It wasn't our device but we had figured it out and wanted to help out.
After several months the other programmer still hadn't managed to port the code and get it working.
In mass they bought our software because we where willing to help and our software was actually very good.
I have a small sample of the system you have proposed but the failure rate is 100%.
So I have to say it is possible but very unlikely and very risky.
So prove me wrong. I will even give $10 for a 3d cad program as good as Solidworks if you promise it in less than two years.
It will not happen.
But that is a problem. A big complex program costs a lot of money. It takes a lot of time to write, document, and test. It may take a team of people many man years.
Nobody wants to pay that much for a program. Closed source allows you to spread the cost of development over a group of users. So yes in theory you could get several thousand people to all chip in $50 and then hire a team to write a game like Left4Dead but that just hasn't happened yet.
That is why FOSS has yet to come up with great software that fills every need. There are some great FOSS programs but there are entire categories of software that FOSS flops at.
So if you want say a 3D CAD system you have a choice.
You can pay several millions of dollars and wait for your team of programmers to develop your CAD system or you can buy a copy of AutoDesk Designer or SolidWorks for a few thousand dollars.
They do exist because programmers where interested enough to create them for pay.
I have been using Linux for over 10 years and I have been doing FOSS for more than 20.
Guess what programming is hard work. People really do want to get paid for hard work. And people want software like that or it wouldn't exist so why not give an easy way for people to buy and sell both open and closed source software
This Linux culture that you are talking about is a bunch of people that want everything for free.
They care only about Free as in beer and the vast majority of them have never compiled a line of code much less written one.
Fine don't buy software but also don't take it. Charging people to distribute software IS PART OF THE GNU CULTURE!
This blurb is right from GNU
"Many people believe that the spirit of the GNU project is that you should not charge money for distributing copies of software, or that you should charge as little as possible â" just enough to cover the cost.
Actually we encourage people who redistribute free software to charge as much as they wish or can. If this seems surprising to you, please read on.
The word âoefreeâ has two legitimate general meanings; it can refer either to freedom or to price. When we speak of âoefree softwareâ, we're talking about freedom, not price. (Think of âoefree speechâ, not âoefree beerâ.) Specifically, it means that a user is free to run the program, change the program, and redistribute the program with or without changes."
Or XPlane or Left4Dead Steam is also an app store btw. Silly silly people.
You don't want one so you lie and say that a repository is the same as an app store.
1. Apple does allow free as in beer software on their store.
2. Are you sure GPL software is not allowed? If it is then I would bet it is because of the NDA on the SDK that you have to sign. If so then that isn't a problem with a Linux Store unless they do something funky with the SDK.
3. The Android store does allow GPL software on their so there is an example of a Linuxish App store wirh free software.
I can not see anybody using Linux that would want to shut out access to GPL software. There is just too much good stuff.
Now if you want to force people to only use GPL software by making it hard for developers to sell software that runs on Linux then yes this could be a big issue for you.
I personally see room for both. The store could allow people to sell GPL software as well as closed source software. That is right there is nothing in the GPL that says that you can not sell / charge to distribute your software. Yes you would have to offer people the source code but how many users will want to compile software for themselves. Those that do will have that option. Oh and you only have to give the code to people that you distribute the binaries too.Making people pay you to give them a copy is totaly okay with the GPL. You just can not prevent them from then copying it and giving it to someone else.
I agree that letting the Telcos run the App store is a bad plan. Having a Linux App store would be great. Split the price of the software 80% for the Author, 10% for the Store, and 10% for the Distro/Telco and I think everyone will be happy.
Unless you are bound to keep Linux a tiny part of the desktop market and not have any closed source apps run on it.
Really?
So can you tell me where I submit my app and set a price? And how will they send me payment when people buy my app? Also where are the reviews and ratings?
I mean that is what an App store does....
CNR is a really terrible example of an app store. Most people don't even know about it and they have very little that people want.
Oh yadda yadda yadda.
Exactly which games in the Ubuntu repository matches those available on Steam again?
Yes the apps on the iPhone tend to be very simple and a lot of them are free as in beer as well. TweetDeck which is also available on Linux is a good example.
But you do have some programs on the iPhone that are very good. XPlane on the iPhone is a better flight sim than FlightGear under Linux.
As to popcap games crap... They sell a lot of games and a lot of people really like them. Hey you don't so don't buy them.
You like free stuff then that is fine and dandy but there are a lot of developers that want to get paid to write code and a lot of users willing to. If you don't that is fine but saying that a repository is the same as a store is just silly.
No.
An App store lets you buy and sell. A repository doesn't.
It is the difference between a warehouse and a store.
Honestly I would say that limiting to the Telcos is dumb. It is a good way for Distros to make money as well as developers. The price for the software could be split between the developer, the store, and the Distro/Telco with the developer getting the majority of the price,
And just to put a stop to the "It's called a repository" statements.
An app store would allow the developer to set a price and handle charging the customer and would just send a check to the developer.
It would have reviews and ratings
And would allow the developer to decide what version is available and not the distro.
It should take care of dependencies just like a repository as well.
That would be a huge leap for Linux on the desktop and would encourage commercial software development.
I find it so amusing the venom that people work up. Frankly I sort of agree with you withiut the venom. Of course there is also the fact that GameStop pays you a lot less for your game and than they sell it for and they might get to do it 10 times for one disk. Hey they are trying to make as much as possible just like the game companies. If you expect a company to do anything but that you are just silly