You don't have to destroy it destroy it. A few hundred thousand dieing in a panic rush to the exits. If fire that suffocates a few thousand while leaving hundreds of thousands homeless. Remember the WTC wasn't taken out by the planes but the fire.
A gaming rig probably not. But yes often the purchase of a computer is an investment. Just like buying any other tool. You profit not because it increases in value over time but by the work you do with it.
I don't have a problem with them being hooked up to a network. Being hooked up to the internet even through a VPN that I have problem with. If you really wanted to hook them up though a VPN Say to report votes I would want them hooked up through a one way serial connection. Think of it as a null modem cable that has only transmit to the reporting PC hooked up the the VPN. For security you could then check the vote tally on the machine, the reporting machine and the central machine to see if there is any issues. Even that seems a bit iffy.
Here you go. "http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sapphire_toxic_4850&num=1" This is a review of the card you are interested in. Phoronix.com reviews hardware and software in Linux. The really seemed to like this card. I wish other sites would also run benchmarks on Linux, Extremetech, Anandtech, and Tomshardware I am looking at you guys. So before you buy I would check and see if Phornix has anything on it.
No the goal was always a powered controlled flight. You could be shot out of cannon but that doesn't count. You can be flung from a catapult and that doesn't count. The goal was to take off and land where you want to in a heavier than air craft. You just think the goal posts moved because you never really knew what they where to start with. Kind of like wanting to count a stay on a space station. The Wrights made the big break through. The final part of the puzzle. They figured out how to turn. If you can not turn then you can not choose where you are going. They also really pushed the idea of using wind tunnels to test airfoils, they also where one of the first to realize that a propeller is nothing but a rotating wing. The also designed and built their own engine. Not to shabby for a pair of bicycle makes in the middle of nowhere Ohio in the early 1900. They where aircraft hackers! They where the Woz of airplanes! But no the goal posts where never moved. The goal post was always controlled heavier than air flight. And like all science it must be documented and repeatable.
Actually in a way the did. The Wight company went on to build most of the engines that powered the first practical airliners. That that where not powered by Wright engines where powered by Pratt and Whitney engines, a company that was started by former Wright engineers.
"Valeri Polyakov did a 437 day flight, with a flight distance covering more than 7 thousand times the circumference of the earth.
Of course, his flight being disregarded isn't surprising, him not being an American."
Yes his record count but not in this classification. That record is for orbital duration and not for atmospheric flight. It fails on a number of counts including that he didn't takeoff and land in the same craft! "Eilmer of Malmesbury, who flew 220 yards in a glider in the 11th century" Not powered and really not well documented. So that doesn't count. "Lagari Celebi, who flew an unspecified distance with a rocket in 1633 (well documented!)" How could the distance be unspecified but the flight well documented? It probably also fails because the Wrights are credited with controlled powered flight. The rest of your "flights" all while great achievements where not documented controlled powered flight. Take Richard Pearse as an example. From the Wikipedia, "The documentary evidence to support such a claim remains open to interpretation, however, and he does not appear to have developed his aircraft to match the Wrights' achievement of sustained, controlled flight. Pearse himself made contradictory statements which for many years led the few who knew of his feats to accept 1904 as the date of his first flight." Also wind can not aid your flight unless you are getting ridge lift which the Wrights where not using. The wind only helped reduce the take off distance at the cost of decreasing the flight distance. Since runways where not invented yet it was a fair trade off. Also the winds there where nice and constant. Gusts are a pain even in modern light air craft. A steady wind makes life a little easier. What the Wrights really did was apply a lot of science to flight. They where in contact with just about every other aviation pioneer at the time. Their real discovery was how to turn an air plane by combining yaw and roll. That tends to go over most peoples heads so it is just easier to say that they invented the airplane.
If they hadn't then any number of other inventors would have in a year or two. So stop with the silly anti US rants and move on.
BTW the US didn't really embrace the Wrights as the inventors of the airplane. Frankly they where ripped off by Bell and Curtis, they modified Langley's aerodrone well after the fact and claimed that he was the inventor of the airplane. Europe embraced the Wrights and gave them the credit they really did earn. The US had to bring back the Wright Flyer that is in the NAS from France because at the time they Smithsonian had not interest in it!
Well it is a shame then. The only "free" yuck drivers that support 3d on a current gpu are Intel. Of course the Intel driver is written and maintained mainly but Intel is frankly is really poorly documented. So if you choose that you are stuck with only using Intel CPUs and GPUs. Seems to me like the FOSS community should be doing everything to support ATI since they are working very hard to create a FOSS driver that is completely in the spirit of FOSS! They are releasing all the documentation and helping to write the drivers. Sounds way to like religion at this point to me. But if your purity is more important the practicality then you go for it. IMHO unless you are writeing code, or paying people to write code and then contributing it back then all your talk about "Freedom" is useless drivel. As they say freedom isn't free. People that rant about FOSS but contribute nothing are nothing but freeloaders. At least ATI/AMD is contributing.
So I would suggest that you check it out. But as you can see ATI has been making a lot of effort to support Linux both with Binary drivers and by releasing the docs and specs for their video cards.
Well to help off set the flaming anti religion banter. The Bible has probably been translated into a huge percentage of the languages on the face of the earth. For a Rosetta stone type disk it is probably the best choice. This disk could aid in translating not just all the languages on the disk but also any language they happen to find a copy of the bible in.
Cuckoo? Not likley. They will probably be grateful that we had such s sense of our history that we included it. If it is every needed it will be a great gift to the future. Good thing that most of people on slashdot are not involved in the project.
If the FAI has a logger that would fit this critter. Also I wonder if they could have gone for an AMA record. If I remember the AMA has it's own records for some categories. I could be be mistaken since I have not looked into that stuff for a very long time.
Unbeliever! Your karma shall be burned at the stake and ACs shall tear at your words with biting remarks! You shall be forced to endure shame of working but impure hardware acceleration and working WiFi adapters for all eternity. May RMS have mercy on your poor soul.
You are mistaking Freedom with the Dogma of RMS. Hey if you want to use this just fine and dandy but I am willing to bet that the vast majority of people that praise this and other totally "free" software don't use this. Take a look at ATI. ATI is working on releasing the specs of their cards and helping to write Open Source drivers. But they are not ready yet and they still have some legal issues that they are working out. But in the meantime they have released good binary drivers. Wouldn't it be a great compromise to put those the working Open Source drivers in the distro along with the binary drivers for those that don't. That would reward ATI for what they are doing. Encourage people to buy ATI video cards. And help people get fully functioning systems?
One final note. Does this disto only include GPL code? No BSD allowed... So it must be "free" and defined by RMS....
Really why should they be punished in any way? I am not pro piracy at all but the simple answer is to bust the pirates or better yet offer the stuff on line for a reasonable price DRM free. I for one think $.99 is a bit high for one track but I would pay that one TV show for sure. Hack you could even leave in the ads if it was for free. As far as software. I actually don't pirate video games. I know that is odd but that is just the way I am. Now I will download cracks for the games I buy just so I don't have to deal with the stupid DRM on them.
Well since I made that statement that I need too see more data I think that is a given. Also I will say that I have seen anybody say record highs are proof that there is no global warming. Seen a lot of other things said that is silly but not that.
But bringing jobs is a good thing. I mean think about it you give a tax break to a company to move to your state. That is a gain in tax base and jobs. The problem comes with giving tax breaks to keep a company. Frankly in the mid-west there is a real shortage of jobs. Heck there are towns in Kansas that will give you house and pay you per child to move there. They are closing schools left and right not to save money but because they don't have the bodies to put in them! Iowa is working hard to attract companies. And to be honest I doubt that many of these companies are going to donate a lot of money at the state level. I could be wrong but I just don't see it. You know sometimes politicians do the right thing for the right reasons. I can not imagine that being a state level politician in Iowa is a path to wealth and power.
Notice I said it was an imperfect law. And yes they do seem to care because they make you take an oath under penalty of law. Hey I am not from Ohio but I can see the logic they used when putting this law into effect.
While your post is full of silly anti-windows feelings it does raise a valid point. ANTI-VIRUS? what the heck. This should be locked down and require signed binaries! What are they going to do surf myspace and run incredamail on these things! Please this should be a secure embedded system and not a PC. Not only that why not run QNX or even VMS on these things? both are a lot more secure than Windows and I would bet VMS is beats Linux and even OpenBSD for security.
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You don't have to destroy it destroy it.
A few hundred thousand dieing in a panic rush to the exits. If fire that suffocates a few thousand while leaving hundreds of thousands homeless.
Remember the WTC wasn't taken out by the planes but the fire.
Someone crashes a A340F full of explosives into it. Or sets fires in it, or...
Well you get the idea. Good idea but a great target.
A gaming rig probably not. But yes often the purchase of a computer is an investment. Just like buying any other tool.
You profit not because it increases in value over time but by the work you do with it.
I don't have a problem with them being hooked up to a network. Being hooked up to the internet even through a VPN that I have problem with.
If you really wanted to hook them up though a VPN Say to report votes I would want them hooked up through a one way serial connection. Think of it as a null modem cable that has only transmit to the reporting PC hooked up the the VPN.
For security you could then check the vote tally on the machine, the reporting machine and the central machine to see if there is any issues.
Even that seems a bit iffy.
Here you go.
"http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=sapphire_toxic_4850&num=1"
This is a review of the card you are interested in.
Phoronix.com reviews hardware and software in Linux.
The really seemed to like this card.
I wish other sites would also run benchmarks on Linux, Extremetech, Anandtech, and Tomshardware I am looking at you guys.
So before you buy I would check and see if Phornix has anything on it.
No the goal was always a powered controlled flight.
You could be shot out of cannon but that doesn't count. You can be flung from a catapult and that doesn't count.
The goal was to take off and land where you want to in a heavier than air craft. You just think the goal posts moved because you never really knew what they where to start with. Kind of like wanting to count a stay on a space station.
The Wrights made the big break through. The final part of the puzzle. They figured out how to turn. If you can not turn then you can not choose where you are going. They also really pushed the idea of using wind tunnels to test airfoils, they also where one of the first to realize that a propeller is nothing but a rotating wing.
The also designed and built their own engine. Not to shabby for a pair of bicycle makes in the middle of nowhere Ohio in the early 1900.
They where aircraft hackers! They where the Woz of airplanes!
But no the goal posts where never moved. The goal post was always controlled heavier than air flight. And like all science it must be documented and repeatable.
Actually in a way the did.
The Wight company went on to build most of the engines that powered the first practical airliners. That that where not powered by Wright engines where powered by Pratt and Whitney engines, a company that was started by former Wright engineers.
Actually I think Vanguard wins that one. Last time I checked it was the oldest man made object in orbit.
"Valeri Polyakov did a 437 day flight, with a flight distance covering more than 7 thousand times the circumference of the earth.
Of course, his flight being disregarded isn't surprising, him not being an American."
Yes his record count but not in this classification.
That record is for orbital duration and not for atmospheric flight. It fails on a number of counts including that he didn't takeoff and land in the same craft!
"Eilmer of Malmesbury, who flew 220 yards in a glider in the 11th century"
Not powered and really not well documented. So that doesn't count.
"Lagari Celebi, who flew an unspecified distance with a rocket in 1633 (well documented!)"
How could the distance be unspecified but the flight well documented? It probably also fails because the Wrights are credited with controlled powered flight.
The rest of your "flights" all while great achievements where not documented controlled powered flight.
Take Richard Pearse as an example.
From the Wikipedia, "The documentary evidence to support such a claim remains open to interpretation, however, and he does not appear to have developed his aircraft to match the Wrights' achievement of sustained, controlled flight. Pearse himself made contradictory statements which for many years led the few who knew of his feats to accept 1904 as the date of his first flight."
Also wind can not aid your flight unless you are getting ridge lift which the Wrights where not using. The wind only helped reduce the take off distance at the cost of decreasing the flight distance. Since runways where not invented yet it was a fair trade off. Also the winds there where nice and constant. Gusts are a pain even in modern light air craft. A steady wind makes life a little easier.
What the Wrights really did was apply a lot of science to flight. They where in contact with just about every other aviation pioneer at the time. Their real discovery was how to turn an air plane by combining yaw and roll.
That tends to go over most peoples heads so it is just easier to say that they invented the airplane.
If they hadn't then any number of other inventors would have in a year or two.
So stop with the silly anti US rants and move on.
BTW the US didn't really embrace the Wrights as the inventors of the airplane. Frankly they where ripped off by Bell and Curtis, they modified Langley's aerodrone well after the fact and claimed that he was the inventor of the airplane.
Europe embraced the Wrights and gave them the credit they really did earn. The US had to bring back the Wright Flyer that is in the NAS from France because at the time they Smithsonian had not interest in it!
Couldn't do it.
How could you keep it updated.
And if you did RMS would start demanding that you call it them GNU Rosetta Disks.
Well it is a shame then.
The only "free" yuck drivers that support 3d on a current gpu are Intel. Of course the Intel driver is written and maintained mainly but Intel is frankly is really poorly documented. So if you choose that you are stuck with only using Intel CPUs and GPUs.
Seems to me like the FOSS community should be doing everything to support ATI since they are working very hard to create a FOSS driver that is completely in the spirit of FOSS! They are releasing all the documentation and helping to write the drivers.
Sounds way to like religion at this point to me. But if your purity is more important the practicality then you go for it.
IMHO unless you are writeing code, or paying people to write code and then contributing it back then all your talk about "Freedom" is useless drivel. As they say freedom isn't free. People that rant about FOSS but contribute nothing are nothing but freeloaders.
At least ATI/AMD is contributing.
Here is some info on the latest ATI drivers.
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_catalyst_evolution&num=1
I do believe that they are offering a unified driver now so some older cards are supported by this driver.
And this has some info on the FOSS drivers that are being written with ATIs documentation and help
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ati_r500_gaming&num=1
So I would suggest that you check it out. But as you can see ATI has been making a lot of effort to support Linux both with Binary drivers and by releasing the docs and specs for their video cards.
Well to help off set the flaming anti religion banter.
The Bible has probably been translated into a huge percentage of the languages on the face of the earth.
For a Rosetta stone type disk it is probably the best choice.
This disk could aid in translating not just all the languages on the disk but also any language they happen to find a copy of the bible in.
Cuckoo? Not likley. They will probably be grateful that we had such s sense of our history that we included it. If it is every needed it will be a great gift to the future.
Good thing that most of people on slashdot are not involved in the project.
If the FAI has a logger that would fit this critter.
Also I wonder if they could have gone for an AMA record. If I remember the AMA has it's own records for some categories.
I could be be mistaken since I have not looked into that stuff for a very long time.
The latest ATI drivers are actually very good. They have stepped up Linux support and have just about reached parity with their Windows Drivers.
Your really out of date. The latest ATI drivers are actually very good.
Now one or two years ago what you are saying is true but not now.
Manned aircraft still have that record beat. Humm several days in an airplane... What fun.
Unbeliever! Your karma shall be burned at the stake and ACs shall tear at your words with biting remarks!
You shall be forced to endure shame of working but impure hardware acceleration and working WiFi adapters for all eternity.
May RMS have mercy on your poor soul.
You are mistaking Freedom with the Dogma of RMS. Hey if you want to use this just fine and dandy but I am willing to bet that the vast majority of people that praise this and other totally "free" software don't use this.
Take a look at ATI. ATI is working on releasing the specs of their cards and helping to write Open Source drivers. But they are not ready yet and they still have some legal issues that they are working out.
But in the meantime they have released good binary drivers.
Wouldn't it be a great compromise to put those the working Open Source drivers in the distro along with the binary drivers for those that don't. That would reward ATI for what they are doing. Encourage people to buy ATI video cards. And help people get fully functioning systems?
One final note. Does this disto only include GPL code? No BSD allowed... So it must be "free" and defined by RMS....
Really why should they be punished in any way?
I am not pro piracy at all but the simple answer is to bust the pirates or better yet offer the stuff on line for a reasonable price DRM free.
I for one think $.99 is a bit high for one track but I would pay that one TV show for sure.
Hack you could even leave in the ads if it was for free.
As far as software. I actually don't pirate video games. I know that is odd but that is just the way I am. Now I will download cracks for the games I buy just so I don't have to deal with the stupid DRM on them.
Well since I made that statement that I need too see more data I think that is a given.
Also I will say that I have seen anybody say record highs are proof that there is no global warming.
Seen a lot of other things said that is silly but not that.
But bringing jobs is a good thing.
I mean think about it you give a tax break to a company to move to your state. That is a gain in tax base and jobs.
The problem comes with giving tax breaks to keep a company. Frankly in the mid-west there is a real shortage of jobs. Heck there are towns in Kansas that will give you house and pay you per child to move there. They are closing schools left and right not to save money but because they don't have the bodies to put in them!
Iowa is working hard to attract companies.
And to be honest I doubt that many of these companies are going to donate a lot of money at the state level. I could be wrong but I just don't see it.
You know sometimes politicians do the right thing for the right reasons. I can not imagine that being a state level politician in Iowa is a path to wealth and power.
Well if you live in Ohio and feel that way work to get the law changed.
Posting on Slashdot as an AC will do nothing.
Notice I said it was an imperfect law. And yes they do seem to care because they make you take an oath under penalty of law.
Hey I am not from Ohio but I can see the logic they used when putting this law into effect.
While your post is full of silly anti-windows feelings it does raise a valid point.
ANTI-VIRUS? what the heck. This should be locked down and require signed binaries! What are they going to do surf myspace and run incredamail on these things!
Please this should be a secure embedded system and not a PC.
Not only that why not run QNX or even VMS on these things? both are a lot more secure than Windows and I would bet VMS is beats Linux and even OpenBSD for security.