But, What about the people that do get hurt by piracy? What about the people that make money from it? No I am not talking about MP3 player manufactures or CDRW producers. There was a story on Slashdot about a site that was full of pirated eBooks. There received a take down notice that caused a lot of problems because. 1. It invoked the DMCA for no valid reason. 2. It included one work that was published under Creative Commons. The up roar over those errors what loud and I feel justified. However no one pointed out that the site did have many ebooks that did violate the authors copyright. Also that site was in the process of raising venture capital and was selling ads. That site is in it for the money just like the publishers. So we have several groups.
We have the media companies. They are big and vile. They want total control over all media and don't really care about the consumer or the artists rights.
We have the pirates. I will restrict this to the those that are into it for the profit. They are acting like fences. They don't actually break any copyrights they just help those that do connect up with the people that want the material and make a profit doing it. Oh they will often wrap themselves with the freedom banner but the truth is they are in it for the money.
We have the artists and the authors. They are getting ripped off by both the media companies and the pirates.
You have the hackers and users. They want to use the media they buy any way they want to. It should be completely legal for iTunes or any other software to rip DVDs so people can play them on their computers and media players! Bit Torrent isn't a pirates tool anymore than a sheet of paper is a counterfeiters tool.
As the end user of media we are not hurt by the pirates but we are hurt by DRM and are offended by the erosion of our rights by the media companies. We tend to side with anyone that is against the media companies. But the truth is people do deserve to be paid for their work. It is just as wrong to violate the copyright on a book as it is to violate the GPL. Authors and Artists have the right to be paid for their work. Just as we have the right for fair use. And the DMCA, DRM, RIAA, and MPAA are NOT THE SOLUTION they are if anything a huge part of the problem. DRM makes pirated media easier to deal with than legal media.
If course I wonder when the video companies will realize that bit torent is a small leak in their dike, the flood is NetFlix.
RMS: This is what ensures that the users have the four freedoms. The BSD licenses do not ensure this, and thus not all users have these freedoms.
The BSD licenses (there were more than one of them) do not give more freedom. What they offer, to those who can take advantage of it, is power: power to deny others' freedom. That is not a good thing.
Okay this list seems to be of several different technologies some of which over lap but several are used for very different tasks. You can not replace MPI with Pthreads. I don't see the problem. Just as we have many different programing languages these different interfaces all have different niches.
A sip module is an interesting idea. Security could be an issue. After all you don't want to let just everybody call in or for that matter call out on your lines.
"One of them has a router that reads the type of data(email, video, etc) and then sets aside bandwidth for it....Worst idea ever. What if my email CONTAINS video?! What then internet man?" Umm.... Wow.... What video in your email would an attachment. What would happen is it would get transmitted to your computer slightly slower than other types of data like streaming video or audio... Which means that your voip phone, streaming music, and or streaming video wouldn't get interrupted by you downloading your mail. In other words IT WOULD WORK EXACTLY THAT WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO AND WOULD BE FREAKING BRILLIANT! It is very common in routers. It is QOS or Quality of Service! If it mail had a link to a streaming video source then the router would know that and give that video stream higher priority. You may be kidding but it is hard to tell. I have found that one can never be sure if someone is clueless or trying to be funny.
Part of it is proprietary nature. We use Asterisk at my office for our phone system. I would love it if we could pay a small fee and make calls too and from our phone system using skype. Sort of a Skype toll free number. Some of our overseas customers use Skype but there isn't any good way to integrate Skype with our current phone system. A Skype module would also be nice to put into our software. Just click a button and call tech support over the Internet. Skype has potential but not in it's current form.
As a 42 year old developer that drank tons of soft drinks all I can say is. I have Type 2 diabetes. No it is not caused by too much sugar. It is not caused by lack of exercise. There are many people in my office that are far more over weight and older than I am. It is caused by a genetic predisposition. BUT it does seem that high fructose corn syrup really does tend to increase your chance of developing all sorts of health issues. Yea your a student now but don't bet that you may have to pay a high price for what you do to our body now.
Thank you for the correction. Yep I was wrong. However the entire point of my post is still valid. Expecting Google to look out for anyones best interests but their own is foolish. However anyone that thinks that it is OK to have a 767 for personal travel must also feel that it is OK for anyone that can afford an SUV should to buy one.
"People who were willing to pay cash money for a CD will appreciate being able to pay less online (and not finance MegaMart Music Stores)" Would the mega music mart even carry RadioHead? Isn't this more likely to hurt the few small local music stores that are left then a MegaMart.
Just a suggestion since I am not a RadioHead fan. In fact I don't think I have ever heard them.
How about this. Just about every CPU available now is bloody fast! If you don't transcode HDVideo and you don't play super high end games then just about any modern CPU is going to be fast enough. The performance of the CPU is such a small part of PC performance. For most people more Ram will mean more than a faster CPU. Then maybe a faster HD or video card! I develop software for a living and Athlon X2 3800 is pretty fast with enough ram.
"I don't call companies evil when their CEO goes out and buys an SUV, no. The only difference here, is that its on a larger scale, a behemoth company, and their founders getting a behemoth SUV." So you have to be a CEO to rate an SUV? How big of a company does it have to be for it to be okay in your book to have a behemoth SUV. BTW Google OWNS the 767. It is for the use of the founders and maybe other execs. So in this case it is the founders acting as the head of the company buying the ego toy under the companies name...
"Perhaps... but families like to watch movies, too. If the rumors about them hyping the Blu-Ray aspect is true, it could dovetail nicely." DVDs look great on an HDTV. Yes a vidoephile will notice the difference but for most of use DVDs are still good enough. Unless you have a really big high end HDTV then and HD-DVD is just a "That is nice but not worth the money" item for most people. My wife and I are in the wait and see mode. Until there is only ONE format I am not buying.
"- have to forcibly reset the system every few weeks when it completely locks up - most recently this morning when I tried to do a standby and the whole system locked up" And standby in Linux always works? I think not.
"- install a new ATI driver to solve a bluescreen a few weeks ago - seems OK now, but I've never had a video driver crash on Linux" Then consider yourself lucky. Want me to post some links?
I never said that Windows was perfect I just said that it was foolish to. 1. Say that Linux working well with Windows has no value. 2. That Windows is and Edsel.
I use Linux everyday. I do like it but to dismiss Windows is just stupid.
"So their founders purchased an "SUV" aircraft, big deal, what they purchase with their money, and do in their spare time, is their own business. Reflecting that onto Google itself is nothing less then clutching at straws, and hate mongering IMO."
Wow you are truly a member of the faithful. So then you don't object to anyone buying an SUV? You logic is they can afford it so it is alright should apply to all equally? I am not some Marxist, Luddite, or Green party member. I don't have a problem with them having a private jet it is just that you can not go around claiming to not be evil and pushing for more alternative energy when you have a private jetliner as an ego toy. If you are going to claim to not be evil then I would expect you to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I love airplanes but even I just can not see any justification for a private 767 unless you are moving a large crew on a moments notice over long distances. As I said I don't feel Google is all that evil. I just feel it is foolish to look as them as a tech savior. They are in it for the money just like everyone else.
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The founders of Google have a private customized 767! Unless they fill 200 or so seats in it every time they fly I think that alone rates as a large chunk of evil. I am saying that they couldn't have a private jet but there are many smaller private jets with just as much range and a lot smaller carbon footprint. I don't think that Google is a very evil company. But I wouldn't put them on any pedestal as a great benefactor. As too who gets the spectrum. Well I would like to see Sprint get it since they are currently the least evil of the cell companies in the US. They allow you to put 3rd party applications on their phones.
I love open source software. Just thought I would get that out there but ease of use is one of the strengths of the closed source model. Everyone talks about how you can make money on support with open source. With closed source every support call costs money. It pays to make the UI so easy that people don't have to call or call often. With OpenSource the UI often stops at the, "It isn't pretty but it works stage". I have heard that Blenders UI is much like vi and or emacs. Really steep learning curve but once you know it then it is very fast. I have worked with Solid Works and Turbo Cad and I have to admit that I found Blenders UI really confusing. I managed to do a quick rendering of a model I imported for SolidWorks but it wasn't easy.
Last time I checked you could order all of Nokia's phones unlocked from Nokia. Seems to me they offer you the choice of taking the subsidy or not. The choice is up to the consumer which sounds very open to me.
Yet Another Dumb Automotive Analogy. "my enterprise needs computers that work and people who are competent enough to use something like pre-installed Ubuntu". I really hate to point this out but Windows 2000 and XP do work. In an enterprise setting where they are behind a fire wall and locked down correctly Windows XP and 2K work pretty well. Add in the huge amount of custom software that many enterprises have written over the years in VB and you have a system that works well for many companies. So yes Linux is technically a better OS than Windows XP/2K but Windows isn't an Edsel. I am interested just how Suse works better with Windows than other Linux servers do. This could be nothing more than marketing spin or Novell does have access to some hooks that other Linux providers don't
Yes but I think that one should also vote with your heart and your hands. Not buying something is as I said "the least that one can do". But actually giving your time to help someone else. That is making a real difference IMHO.
Maybe with Google as their partner? Just throwing that out there. I don't really see it since Apple would need to create low end phones. iPhone Nano? iPhone Shuffle?
Notice that I didn't say it was silly. I maybe jaded from personal experience but all too often I see people thinking that by putting a Free Tibet bumper sticker on their car that they are making a difference. Oh and the diamond thing... Man did I get into hot water over that. Back when I was getting engaged my wife got made at me for asking where the diamonds on the rings came from. Then when they asked my why did I care I told the people in the stores in great detail why I wouldn't buy designer coal that cost people their lives. She is a sweet woman she was right in that the person at the store really has no control over where the diamonds came from. She was very happy when a store that only sells Canadian diamonds opened near us:(
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But,
What about the people that do get hurt by piracy? What about the people that make money from it?
No I am not talking about MP3 player manufactures or CDRW producers. There was a story on Slashdot about a site that was full of pirated eBooks. There received a take down notice that caused a lot of problems because.
1. It invoked the DMCA for no valid reason.
2. It included one work that was published under Creative Commons.
The up roar over those errors what loud and I feel justified. However no one pointed out that the site did have many ebooks that did violate the authors copyright. Also that site was in the process of raising venture capital and was selling ads. That site is in it for the money just like the publishers.
So we have several groups.
We have the media companies. They are big and vile. They want total control over all media and don't really care about the consumer or the artists rights.
We have the pirates. I will restrict this to the those that are into it for the profit. They are acting like fences. They don't actually break any
copyrights they just help those that do connect up with the people that want the material and make a profit doing it. Oh they will often wrap themselves with the freedom banner but the truth is they are in it for the money.
We have the artists and the authors. They are getting ripped off by both the media companies and the pirates.
You have the hackers and users. They want to use the media they buy any way they want to. It should be completely legal for iTunes or any other software to rip DVDs so people can play them on their computers and media players! Bit Torrent isn't a pirates tool anymore than a sheet of paper is a counterfeiters tool.
As the end user of media we are not hurt by the pirates but we are hurt by DRM and are offended by the erosion of our rights by the media companies. We tend to side with anyone that is against the media companies. But the truth is people do deserve to be paid for their work. It is just as wrong to violate the copyright on a book as it is to violate the GPL. Authors and Artists have the right to be paid for their work. Just as we have the right for fair use. And the DMCA, DRM, RIAA, and MPAA are NOT THE SOLUTION they are if anything a huge part of the problem. DRM makes pirated media easier to deal with than legal media.
If course I wonder when the video companies will realize that bit torent is a small leak in their dike, the flood is NetFlix.
From this interview with RMS http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/12/22/rms_interview.html?page=2
RMS: This is what ensures that the users have the four freedoms. The BSD licenses do not ensure this, and thus not all users have these freedoms.
The BSD licenses (there were more than one of them) do not give more freedom. What they offer, to those who can take advantage of it, is power: power to deny others' freedom. That is not a good thing.
Okay this list seems to be of several different technologies some of which over lap but several are used for very different tasks. You can not replace MPI with Pthreads.
I don't see the problem. Just as we have many different programing languages these different interfaces all have different niches.
A sip module is an interesting idea. Security could be an issue. After all you don't want to let just everybody call in or for that matter call out on your lines.
I am waiting for RMS to way in on how they are don't care about freedom.
"One of them has a router that reads the type of data(email, video, etc) and then sets aside bandwidth for it. ...Worst idea ever. What if my email CONTAINS video?! What then internet man?" ....
Umm.... Wow
What video in your email would an attachment. What would happen is it would get transmitted to your computer slightly slower than other types of data like streaming video or audio...
Which means that your voip phone, streaming music, and or streaming video wouldn't get interrupted by you downloading your mail.
In other words IT WOULD WORK EXACTLY THAT WAY IT IS SUPPOSED TO AND WOULD BE FREAKING BRILLIANT! It is very common in routers. It is QOS or Quality of Service!
If it mail had a link to a streaming video source then the router would know that and give that video stream higher priority.
You may be kidding but it is hard to tell. I have found that one can never be sure if someone is clueless or trying to be funny.
Part of it is proprietary nature. We use Asterisk at my office for our phone system. I would love it if we could pay a small fee and make calls too and from our phone system using skype. Sort of a Skype toll free number. Some of our overseas customers use Skype but there isn't any good way to integrate Skype with our current phone system.
A Skype module would also be nice to put into our software. Just click a button and call tech support over the Internet.
Skype has potential but not in it's current form.
That's like saying "I smoke 20 a day, and I don't have cancer"
And people survived trench warfare. That is no reason to throw a mustard gas party.
As a 42 year old developer that drank tons of soft drinks all I can say is.
I have Type 2 diabetes. No it is not caused by too much sugar. It is not caused by lack of exercise. There are many people in my office that are far more over weight and older than I am.
It is caused by a genetic predisposition.
BUT it does seem that high fructose corn syrup really does tend to increase your chance of developing all sorts of health issues.
Yea your a student now but don't bet that you may have to pay a high price for what you do to our body now.
Thank you for the correction.
Yep I was wrong.
However the entire point of my post is still valid.
Expecting Google to look out for anyones best interests but their own is foolish.
However anyone that thinks that it is OK to have a 767 for personal travel must also feel that it is OK for anyone that can afford an SUV should to buy one.
"People who were willing to pay cash money for a CD will appreciate being able to pay less online (and not finance MegaMart Music Stores)"
Would the mega music mart even carry RadioHead? Isn't this more likely to hurt the few small local music stores that are left then a MegaMart.
Just a suggestion since I am not a RadioHead fan. In fact I don't think I have ever heard them.
How about this. Just about every CPU available now is bloody fast!
If you don't transcode HDVideo and you don't play super high end games then just about any modern CPU is going to be fast enough.
The performance of the CPU is such a small part of PC performance. For most people more Ram will mean more than a faster CPU. Then maybe a faster HD or video card!
I develop software for a living and Athlon X2 3800 is pretty fast with enough ram.
"I don't call companies evil when their CEO goes out and buys an SUV, no.
The only difference here, is that its on a larger scale, a behemoth company, and their founders getting a behemoth SUV."
So you have to be a CEO to rate an SUV? How big of a company does it have to be for it to be okay in your book to have a behemoth SUV.
BTW Google OWNS the 767. It is for the use of the founders and maybe other execs.
So in this case it is the founders acting as the head of the company buying the ego toy under the companies name...
"Perhaps... but families like to watch movies, too. If the rumors about them hyping the Blu-Ray aspect is true, it could dovetail nicely."
DVDs look great on an HDTV. Yes a vidoephile will notice the difference but for most of use DVDs are still good enough.
Unless you have a really big high end HDTV then and HD-DVD is just a "That is nice but not worth the money" item for most people. My wife and I are in the wait and see mode. Until there is only ONE format I am not buying.
"- have to forcibly reset the system every few weeks when it completely locks up - most recently this morning when I tried to do a standby and the whole system locked up"
And standby in Linux always works? I think not.
"- install a new ATI driver to solve a bluescreen a few weeks ago - seems OK now, but I've never had a video driver crash on Linux"
Then consider yourself lucky. Want me to post some links?
I never said that Windows was perfect I just said that it was foolish to.
1. Say that Linux working well with Windows has no value.
2. That Windows is and Edsel.
I use Linux everyday. I do like it but to dismiss Windows is just stupid.
"So their founders purchased an "SUV" aircraft, big deal, what they purchase with their money, and do in their spare time, is their own business.
Reflecting that onto Google itself is nothing less then clutching at straws, and hate mongering IMO."
Wow you are truly a member of the faithful.
So then you don't object to anyone buying an SUV? You logic is they can afford it so it is alright should apply to all equally?
I am not some Marxist, Luddite, or Green party member. I don't have a problem with them having a private jet it is just that you can not go around claiming to not be evil and pushing for more alternative energy when you have a private jetliner as an ego toy.
If you are going to claim to not be evil then I would expect you to walk the walk as well as talk the talk. I love airplanes but even I just can not see any justification for a private 767 unless you are moving a large crew on a moments notice over long distances.
As I said I don't feel Google is all that evil. I just feel it is foolish to look as them as a tech savior. They are in it for the money just like everyone else.
I wasn't counting SmartPhones. Of course you can add software to smartphones like the Treos and the Blackberry.
"The first time someone imagined a Beowulf cluster?"
I am pretty sure it was this story. uCsimm
The founders of Google have a private customized 767! Unless they fill 200 or so seats in it every time they fly I think that alone rates as a large chunk of evil. I am saying that they couldn't have a private jet but there are many smaller private jets with just as much range and a lot smaller carbon footprint.
I don't think that Google is a very evil company. But I wouldn't put them on any pedestal as a great benefactor. As too who gets the spectrum. Well I would like to see Sprint get it since they are currently the least evil of the cell companies in the US. They allow you to put 3rd party applications on their phones.
I love open source software. Just thought I would get that out there but ease of use is one of the strengths of the closed source model.
Everyone talks about how you can make money on support with open source. With closed source every support call costs money.
It pays to make the UI so easy that people don't have to call or call often. With OpenSource the UI often stops at the, "It isn't pretty but it works stage".
I have heard that Blenders UI is much like vi and or emacs. Really steep learning curve but once you know it then it is very fast.
I have worked with Solid Works and Turbo Cad and I have to admit that I found Blenders UI really confusing. I managed to do a quick rendering of a model I imported for SolidWorks but it wasn't easy.
Last time I checked you could order all of Nokia's phones unlocked from Nokia. Seems to me they offer you the choice of taking the subsidy or not. The choice is up to the consumer which sounds very open to me.
Yet Another Dumb Automotive Analogy.
"my enterprise needs computers that work and people who are competent enough to use something like pre-installed Ubuntu".
I really hate to point this out but Windows 2000 and XP do work. In an enterprise setting where they are behind a fire wall and locked down correctly Windows XP and 2K work pretty well. Add in the huge amount of custom software that many enterprises have written over the years in VB and you have a system that works well for many companies. So yes Linux is technically a better OS than Windows XP/2K but Windows isn't an Edsel.
I am interested just how Suse works better with Windows than other Linux servers do. This could be nothing more than marketing spin or Novell does have access to some hooks that other Linux providers don't
Yes but I think that one should also vote with your heart and your hands.
Not buying something is as I said "the least that one can do". But actually giving your time to help someone else. That is making a real difference IMHO.
Maybe with Google as their partner?
Just throwing that out there. I don't really see it since Apple would need to create low end phones. iPhone Nano? iPhone Shuffle?
Notice that I didn't say it was silly. I maybe jaded from personal experience but all too often I see people thinking that by putting a Free Tibet bumper sticker on their car that they are making a difference. :(
Oh and the diamond thing... Man did I get into hot water over that. Back when I was getting engaged my wife got made at me for asking where the diamonds on the rings came from. Then when they asked my why did I care I told the people in the stores in great detail why I wouldn't buy designer coal that cost people their lives. She is a sweet woman she was right in that the person at the store really has no control over where the diamonds came from. She was very happy when a store that only sells Canadian diamonds opened near us