" I am torn between admiration of the technical brilliance of building software like this and horror as to how it is being used." Why? Over most of history spying has saved lives more than taken them. I find it so odd that people on Slashdot sing the praises of the "Codebreakers" of WWII but are shocked and freaked out that they are still around today. BTW the US and Britian both spied and used code breaking before the war started so... Yes they were spying in peacetime!!!!! Shocking.
Sigh... You really need to go back to your Logic class... A false dilemma fallacy requires that the choices be limited. I did not say that those were the only two options. You have many good and bad options to the dilemma. What I was showing was simply that a much better option was available and that they the one being defended was not a good option. Yes there are worse options but the one your are defending is very far from a good one.
Really? So you are saying the local PTA that raises funds for a school should be forced to pay it all to a national fund? So for example my school had no AC so my mother worked to raise enough money to put in AC at my elementary school. So she should have just dumped the money to some national system?
"The hardware knowledge argument has become virtually irrelevant in the EC2-world where you can spawn VM pretty much transparently." But not cost free. The every cent spent of VM comes right out of the bottom line. Take a look at the all the hard work Facebook does at optimizing.
"After all, this website is full of people who have no reason to have known about an obscure niche language, regardless of it's significance and importance." This is Slashdot and not CNN or People magazine online. This is News for Nerds. "I'd say it's more troll like to judge people for not knowing about a language that is, at best, obscure and not well known outside of academia and research."
Ahh... You see that is where you are missing it. Lots of people don't know about Haskell and that is fine. I judged people not because they lacked knowledge but because they dismissed the value of that knowledge and make no effort to increase their knowledge. Or to put it in simple terms.
Hear about the death of the creator of something you never heard about. 1. Google it and learn what it is. 2. Dismiss it because you don't know about it. Which is the better path?
"So I agree with you, there is no reason for your opening post to be thought of as a troll." Actually yes there is. You see we have this thing called the internet and the internet has services one is called Google and another is called Wikipedia. You see something you do not know about you have too options. 1. Look it up and find out what it is. or 2. Dismiss it because it is outside your area of knowledge.
By dismissing it you are being a jerk. This is Slashdot so a cool programing language is still a cool programing language even it it is not super popular. Here are some systems written in Haskell https://wiki.haskell.org/Haske...
In other words it is really dumb to take pride in what you do not know.
Sorry I like all tech. Back in the dark ages I love my C64 but the Atari was cool and I so wished I had the software base and slots of the Apple II line. When I got my Amiga I still thought that Atari ST was cool and the Mac was interesting but out of my price range. PCs? I own a Macbook and love OS/X. I write Windows code for a living but I also work on Linux. BSD? Also interesting.
Intel? ARM? AMD? MIPS? AVR? PIC? Yea it is all good. So much cool stuff and so little time. Why do people need pick and be nasty when there's so much cool stuff.
I always found the Pinto hate odd. The Pinto had a less of a problem with rear end collision turning into a fire than a lot of other cars of that time. The worst car for that issue back then was the Datsun 210. The Corvair was another one. The VW Beetle and Porsche 356 and early 911s all had the same "problem" as the Corvair but the Corvair got the heat.
"Is it more efficient than just using the electricity to charge up batteries in an electric car for example" Think of ships, planes, and remote locations where you must transport fuel like Alaska.
"You're right that we don't have enough renewable energy yet to make this a useful technology. But hopefully that day is coming." No it will not. Nuclear is the key to low carbon power. Wind and Solar will help but they do not work well as baseload. Thorium based nuclear and possibly Fusion aka Lockheeds High Beta reactor is what is needed.
"That's because the elderly suffered much more stringent brainwashing as children that leads them to say that they "support those who fight for our freedom" while also promoting a police state worse than Orwells worst nightmare." It is not just the elderly it is everyone that is not really young.
What it could be is older people tend to see more potential unintended results of actions. I have to say that your post is an almost prototypical propaganda tactic of making villains out of those that disagree with you.
Focus is smaller than the Mazda 6 the 3 is closer and when you add in diesel that is not close to an apples to apples comparison. The Cruze diesel is closer and matches your Focus in MPG
Your Imperial gallon is larger than a US Gallon. So he Mazda 6 gets 46 mpg on gas in UK terms. The Chevy Cruze Diesel gets over 55 mpg. Also the US uses a different testing method than the EU so often the same car with the same engine will get better ratings in the EU.
Because paying $540 dollars a month is better than paying $580 a month. The other fact is that pure gas cars are getting really good milage. The Mazda 6 is rated at 40mpg on the highway. The new CX-5 CUV is over 30mpg hwy. My Chevy Cruze is averaging over 33 mpg for me.
They are not just complaining about no stops. They are also upset about those noise, and the "danger", and the risk of first responders being stuck waiting for a train. I could also complain about the mass transit system as well. It takes 30 minutes to take a bus from my office to the mall but only 15 minutes to walk it. BTW before anyone says just walk this is south FL so think lots of heat and rain time of year.
The real issue is that they do not really seem to want them to really work. For example the Florida High Speed rail project that Florida "rightly" refused to build was nothing but welfare for Disney. The "first leg" was the Orlando Airport to Disney! Now they are trying to build one that goes from Miami to Orlando but the people in three counties that are not getting stops are protesting it. This train would run on existing tracks so it should not cost an Arm and a leg but NIMBY is in full force. BTW I do live in one of those bypassed counties and while I would like for them to add stops I can see why they might not want to at first since the counties have a lower population than ones with stops. If they really want them to work they should pick real routes like Dallas Houston, LA SF, and yes Miami Orlando.
Since too many people found my typo amusing let me tell you why are are wrong. 1. Summit racing is full of pistons, cranks, cams, and heads for LS engines. 2. Google build LS and you will find lots of hits. BTW the current suggestions are to find an iron block LS engine like the LQ7 out of a truck since they are more common and cheaper than the aluminum versions out of cars and you can bore them out more. Replace the pistons and rods since they tend to be the weak point on the engines unless you found an LS7 or 9 which used forged pistons and ti con rods. The right heads and cam will really give you good gains with little money. Some of the stock heads are very good and can often be found cheap. The stock intakes are actually pretty good and of course headers will help but not as much as the old days since modern exhaust manifolds are very good compared to the cast iron logs used back in 60s, 70s, and 80s. Of course SBCs are still around but with electronic ignition and often efi. Both are available from the after market. The Ford Coyote engines also have a large following and lots of parts available. Ford is still selling Winsor short blocks and crate motors as well and they also have a huge aftermarket. I am not up on mopar and frankly the big blocks have been pushed out to the extremes. You can build a 454 LS small block and a 460 Winsor so big blocks are not a big advantage unless you are going to push past 500 cid which is pretty rare and very expensive.
Actually most hot rodders are using the new Chevy LS engines on older cars because they are so good and easy to work one even with the computer. Google Chevy LS builds.
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" I am torn between admiration of the technical brilliance of building software like this and horror as to how it is being used."
Why? Over most of history spying has saved lives more than taken them.
I find it so odd that people on Slashdot sing the praises of the "Codebreakers" of WWII but are shocked and freaked out that they are still around today.
BTW the US and Britian both spied and used code breaking before the war started so... Yes they were spying in peacetime!!!!! Shocking.
Sigh... You really need to go back to your Logic class...
A false dilemma fallacy requires that the choices be limited. I did not say that those were the only two options. You have many good and bad options to the dilemma. What I was showing was simply that a much better option was available and that they the one being defended was not a good option.
Yes there are worse options but the one your are defending is very far from a good one.
Really?
So you are saying the local PTA that raises funds for a school should be forced to pay it all to a national fund?
So for example my school had no AC so my mother worked to raise enough money to put in AC at my elementary school. So she should have just dumped the money to some national system?
"The hardware knowledge argument has become virtually irrelevant in the EC2-world where you can spawn VM pretty much transparently."
But not cost free.
The every cent spent of VM comes right out of the bottom line. Take a look at the all the hard work Facebook does at optimizing.
"After all, this website is full of people who have no reason to have known about an obscure niche language, regardless of it's significance and importance."
This is Slashdot and not CNN or People magazine online. This is News for Nerds.
"I'd say it's more troll like to judge people for not knowing about a language that is, at best, obscure and not well known outside of academia and research."
Ahh... You see that is where you are missing it.
Lots of people don't know about Haskell and that is fine.
I judged people not because they lacked knowledge but because they dismissed the value of that knowledge and make no effort to increase their knowledge.
Or to put it in simple terms.
Hear about the death of the creator of something you never heard about.
1. Google it and learn what it is.
2. Dismiss it because you don't know about it.
Which is the better path?
YikYak is a good example of why we can't have nice things. It could be really cool but for the most part it is full of idiots.
"So I agree with you, there is no reason for your opening post to be thought of as a troll."
Actually yes there is.
You see we have this thing called the internet and the internet has services one is called Google and another is called Wikipedia.
You see something you do not know about you have too options.
1. Look it up and find out what it is.
or
2. Dismiss it because it is outside your area of knowledge.
By dismissing it you are being a jerk. This is Slashdot so a cool programing language is still a cool programing language even it it is not super popular. Here are some systems written in Haskell
https://wiki.haskell.org/Haske...
In other words it is really dumb to take pride in what you do not know.
When was a Mac cheaper than the Amiga? Not in my memory. I have a Mac now and really like OS/X as I said I like all tech...
Sorry I like all tech.
Back in the dark ages I love my C64 but the Atari was cool and I so wished I had the software base and slots of the Apple II line.
When I got my Amiga I still thought that Atari ST was cool and the Mac was interesting but out of my price range.
PCs? I own a Macbook and love OS/X. I write Windows code for a living but I also work on Linux. BSD? Also interesting.
Intel? ARM? AMD? MIPS? AVR? PIC? Yea it is all good.
So much cool stuff and so little time. Why do people need pick and be nasty when there's so much cool stuff.
I always found the Pinto hate odd. The Pinto had a less of a problem with rear end collision turning into a fire than a lot of other cars of that time. The worst car for that issue back then was the Datsun 210.
The Corvair was another one. The VW Beetle and Porsche 356 and early 911s all had the same "problem" as the Corvair but the Corvair got the heat.
"Is it more efficient than just using the electricity to charge up batteries in an electric car for example"
Think of ships, planes, and remote locations where you must transport fuel like Alaska.
"You're right that we don't have enough renewable energy yet to make this a useful technology. But hopefully that day is coming."
No it will not.
Nuclear is the key to low carbon power. Wind and Solar will help but they do not work well as baseload. Thorium based nuclear and possibly Fusion aka Lockheeds High Beta reactor is what is needed.
"However, the BND did not inform the German Chancellor's office,"
Can you say plausible deniability?
Sorry but the EU still uses MPG using those old fashioned imperial gallons.
You mean like all the people on Slashdot that are saying those that do like Snowden are old, out of touch, brainwashed, and clueless?
"That's because the elderly suffered much more stringent brainwashing as children that leads them to say that they "support those who fight for our freedom" while also promoting a police state worse than Orwells worst nightmare."
It is not just the elderly it is everyone that is not really young.
What it could be is older people tend to see more potential unintended results of actions. I have to say that your post is an almost prototypical propaganda tactic of making villains out of those that disagree with you.
Focus is smaller than the Mazda 6 the 3 is closer and when you add in diesel that is not close to an apples to apples comparison. The Cruze diesel is closer and matches your Focus in MPG
my commute is all freeway with almost no stop and go.
Again this is for me personally.
Your Imperial gallon is larger than a US Gallon.
So he Mazda 6 gets 46 mpg on gas in UK terms.
The Chevy Cruze Diesel gets over 55 mpg.
Also the US uses a different testing method than the EU so often the same car with the same engine will get better ratings in the EU.
Because paying $540 dollars a month is better than paying $580 a month.
The other fact is that pure gas cars are getting really good milage. The Mazda 6 is rated at 40mpg on the highway. The new CX-5 CUV is over 30mpg hwy.
My Chevy Cruze is averaging over 33 mpg for me.
This is single track right of way so I do not think that is a real option and really would add to the cost of the system.
They are not just complaining about no stops. They are also upset about those noise, and the "danger", and the risk of first responders being stuck waiting for a train.
I could also complain about the mass transit system as well. It takes 30 minutes to take a bus from my office to the mall but only 15 minutes to walk it. BTW before anyone says just walk this is south FL so think lots of heat and rain time of year.
The real issue is that they do not really seem to want them to really work.
For example the Florida High Speed rail project that Florida "rightly" refused to build was nothing but welfare for Disney. The "first leg" was the Orlando Airport to Disney!
Now they are trying to build one that goes from Miami to Orlando but the people in three counties that are not getting stops are protesting it. This train would run on existing tracks so it should not cost an Arm and a leg but NIMBY is in full force.
BTW I do live in one of those bypassed counties and while I would like for them to add stops I can see why they might not want to at first since the counties have a lower population than ones with stops.
If they really want them to work they should pick real routes like Dallas Houston, LA SF, and yes Miami Orlando.
Since too many people found my typo amusing let me tell you why are are wrong.
1. Summit racing is full of pistons, cranks, cams, and heads for LS engines.
2. Google build LS and you will find lots of hits.
BTW the current suggestions are to find an iron block LS engine like the LQ7 out of a truck since they are more common and cheaper than the aluminum versions out of cars and you can bore them out more. Replace the pistons and rods since they tend to be the weak point on the engines unless you found an LS7 or 9 which used forged pistons and ti con rods. The right heads and cam will really give you good gains with little money. Some of the stock heads are very good and can often be found cheap. The stock intakes are actually pretty good and of course headers will help but not as much as the old days since modern exhaust manifolds are very good compared to the cast iron logs used back in 60s, 70s, and 80s. Of course SBCs are still around but with electronic ignition and often efi. Both are available from the after market. The Ford Coyote engines also have a large following and lots of parts available. Ford is still selling Winsor short blocks and crate motors as well and they also have a huge aftermarket. I am not up on mopar and frankly the big blocks have been pushed out to the extremes. You can build a 454 LS small block and a 460 Winsor so big blocks are not a big advantage unless you are going to push past 500 cid which is pretty rare and very expensive.
Your nuts.
Go to Summit racing and see how many LS cylinder heads, pistons, cranks, and cams are available.
Actually most hot rodders are using the new Chevy LS engines on older cars because they are so good and easy to work one even with the computer.
Google Chevy LS builds.