> Wonderful commercials with a real sense of > humor.
Best commerical I ever saw went like this: 2 minutes of computer chips being put into life support systems and pacemakers, old people running around, celebrating 100year birthdays, with cheesy music in the background and a voice over saying "We have the power today, to help people last longer, the computer chips needed to make life support systems. With our new chips we could save lives, but we thought, Nah, forget it, lets play games" All the chips were removed from the pacemakers, the old people started having heart attacks mixed in with shots of Quake and racing games.
It turned out to be an advert for 3dfx's stuff. I only saw it once, but it was hilarious. It was probably axed for being offensive.
banner ads can be turned off very easily. And at least with banner ads we know that they're tracking us. I don't care if I'm being tracked, so long as I'm told "You're being tracked".
Thats the point. Someone somewhere will, because they can.
Like the time that the linux-utils package was hacked to email your root password to a hotmail account. It was spotted within hours. Had it been Win95, we'd never know.
They say they don't use it, So why do they waste bandwidth/storage space collecting it?
Slowly closed source software is shooting itself in the foot with all these "trojans" that they add, but that they "don't use for any purpose". They'll soon not be able to use the security through obscurity catch phrase.
Maybe Open source software should use "Privacy though visibility" as a counterattack.
Why is it that everything interesting happens in Ireland when I'm not there. Concerts, prominent Open Source speakers giving talks. As soon as I go home, poof, they've all gone, until the next time I go to university. . Just not fair I'm going to sulk now.
But those other things are not related to open source, and while they were stupid, I think we (the open source commnuity) should be forgiving. They are working very hard, and it's a new market thing for them and their lawyers, who are the ones really at fault, because they don't understand the way this free software thing works.
Sort of like that Tarpit article, on the big dinosaurs struggling hardest just before they die. Execpt it was about Microsoft, but it seems to fit into what you're saying.
We should start an underground internet, returning to what the Internet was really about. We could have secret ways of connecting and secret handshakes and all sorts of things like that. Stupid patents and stupid politicians and so on wouldn't be able to say what we do.
Iv'e got a 486 with 256meg hard drive and we could run it on that:)
Iain - Putting crap on/. to procrastinate so he doesn't have to do his project
I do like reading these articles, every day more and more companies are starting to use Linux, and with a big company like Oracle pushing it, hopefully they'll also start making it better, like Corel did with Wine. Maybe Oracle could work on SMP and RAID, cos they're a corporation who can afford 8 processor systems to do the testing and development on.
But who knows what will happen, but I think it can only be for the good.
Having not thought about this very long My gut feeling is that if the program has a legitamite use (Like BO2K can be used as a remote admin thing), then the person who misuses it is to blame. But if there's no legitamite use, then the author should be held to blame.
The only problem is to work out what constitutes legitamite use.
The last line in the article. Look at all the companies that installed AV software afterwards. You would think that at least Microsoft would have decent AV stuff running.
Antivirus procedures in most companies is a joke.
I went round upgrading Win95/98/NT for Y2K compliance (another joke) in a very important company in N. Ireland over the summer, and everytime we did a computer we ahd to copy a Word document to the hard drive and fill it in, date, time etc. Then we copied it to a floppy. When we finally got all the disks back there were 4 different boot sector viruses on them, and numerous Macro viruses. All the computers were running virus checkers, so the PHB's all thought they were safe from viruses. The only problem was that the checkers were 4 years out of date.
Oh I know the old virii were complicated and clever, but todays macro virii etc, aren't, and shouldn't be "respected", and I doubt if the people writing them are half as clever as the old DOS/Amiga/ST virii writers.
Virii (Viruses?) that do this are just seem to be written for the sake of it, and cos the author wants some recognition for being "Leet" from their "Leet" IRC "hacker" friends, and they can't actually do anything useful.
Maybe they'll grow out of it, but it's unlikely. Not that I'm a definitive source or anything.
There exists a gtk widget thats made out of the mozilla rendering library. And Miguel says that the mozilla rendering engine has been "bonoboized" twice so far, (turned into a sort of special GNOME thing, like DCOM I think) but that the api changed and it broke, so they're waiting till the beta comes out before they do it again, but when it does, it can be writen in about 5hrs.
If it was deliberate, (which it probably wasn't,) it would have been planned weeks or months ago.
But like they say, DOS isn't done till Lotus doesn't run. So does this mean they're still goig to have DOS hidden somewhere, cos from what I remember, Lotus 123 is still running fine.
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> Wonderful commercials with a real sense of > humor.
Best commerical I ever saw went like this:
2 minutes of computer chips being put into life support systems and pacemakers, old people running around, celebrating 100year birthdays, with cheesy music in the background and a voice over saying "We have the power today, to help people last longer, the computer chips needed to make life support systems. With our new chips we could save lives, but we thought, Nah, forget it, lets play games" All the chips were removed from the pacemakers, the old people started having heart attacks mixed in with shots of Quake and racing games.
It turned out to be an advert for 3dfx's stuff.
I only saw it once, but it was hilarious.
It was probably axed for being offensive.
the dvd makers can blame on those *NASTY* *EVIL* hacker people who only want to steal.
iain
Customer: "My palmtop won't turn on"
Help-Desk: "It's run out of batteries"
Customer: "No, it doesn't use batteries, it's Windows Powered"
banner ads can be turned off
very easily.
And at least with banner ads we know that they're tracking us.
I don't care if I'm being tracked, so long as I'm told "You're being tracked".
Thats the point.
Someone somewhere will, because they can.
Like the time that the linux-utils package was hacked to email your root password to a hotmail account.
It was spotted within hours.
Had it been Win95, we'd never know.
iain
They say they don't use it,
So why do they waste bandwidth/storage space collecting it?
Slowly closed source software is shooting itself in the foot with all these "trojans" that they add, but that they "don't use for any purpose". They'll soon not be able to use the security through obscurity catch phrase.
Maybe Open source software should use "Privacy though visibility" as a counterattack.
iain
And I bet I'll still not be there.
Oh well.
Why is it that everything interesting happens in Ireland when I'm not there.
Concerts, prominent Open Source speakers giving talks. As soon as I go home, poof, they've all gone, until the next time I go to university.
.
Just not fair
I'm going to sulk now.
But those other things are not related to open source, and while they were stupid, I think we (the open source commnuity) should be forgiving. They are working very hard, and it's a new market thing for them and their lawyers, who are the ones really at fault, because they don't understand the way this free software thing works.
Is this the rule we're playing by in the Open Source community? Make 3 mistakes and then we get the big guns on you and stop being friendly?
Every other time Corel arsed up their licenses they complied without any fuss, why is this time any different?
I think his lawsuit threat will scare people off rather than make them release open source stuff
Iain
The "Beta test is under an NDA and you can't have the source" or whatever it was about 2 months back.
They fixed that happily.
Sort of like that Tarpit article, on the big dinosaurs struggling hardest just before they die. Execpt it was about Microsoft, but it seems to fit into what you're saying.
We should start an underground internet, returning to what the Internet was really about. We could have secret ways of connecting and secret handshakes and all sorts of things like that. Stupid patents and stupid politicians and so on wouldn't be able to say what we do.
:)
/. to procrastinate so he doesn't have to do his project
Iv'e got a 486 with 256meg hard drive and we could run it on that
Iain - Putting crap on
Nope, thats not it either.
Is it just me, or is this a very scary priviledge, that could be easily abused.
Say they get permission to go onto someone's computer, to find something, can't find it, but decide to fake it anyway. Maybe I'm just being paranoid.
I do like reading these articles, every day more and more companies are starting to use Linux, and with a big company like Oracle pushing it, hopefully they'll also start making it better, like Corel did with Wine. Maybe Oracle could work on SMP and RAID, cos they're a corporation who can afford 8 processor systems to do the testing and development on.
But who knows what will happen, but I think it can only be for the good.
Iain
And the Beastie Boys could organise big concerts
"UK Freedom Concerts"
Woooo
iain
Having not thought about this very long
My gut feeling is that if the program has a legitamite use (Like BO2K can be used as a remote admin thing), then the person who misuses it is to blame.
But if there's no legitamite use, then the author should be held to blame.
The only problem is to work out what constitutes legitamite use.
iain
(sorry for the poor spelling)
The last line in the article. Look at all the companies that installed AV software afterwards. You would think that at least Microsoft would have decent AV stuff running.
Antivirus procedures in most companies is a joke.
I went round upgrading Win95/98/NT for Y2K compliance (another joke) in a very important company in N. Ireland over the summer, and everytime we did a computer we ahd to copy a Word document to the hard drive and fill it in, date, time etc. Then we copied it to a floppy. When we finally got all the disks back there were 4 different boot sector viruses on them, and numerous Macro viruses. All the computers were running virus checkers, so the PHB's all thought they were safe from viruses. The only problem was that the checkers were 4 years out of date.
In fact,
I never even knew there was a difference between goto.com and go.com
I thought they were the same company, just with multiple URLs.
Oh well, live and learn.
iain
Oh I know the old virii were complicated and clever, but todays macro virii etc, aren't, and shouldn't be "respected", and I doubt if the people writing them are half as clever as the old DOS/Amiga/ST virii writers.
Virii (Viruses?) that do this are just seem to be written for the sake of it, and cos the author wants some recognition for being "Leet" from their "Leet" IRC "hacker" friends, and they can't actually do anything useful.
Maybe they'll grow out of it, but it's unlikely.
Not that I'm a definitive source or anything.
There exists a gtk widget thats made out of the mozilla rendering library.
And Miguel says that the mozilla rendering engine has been "bonoboized" twice so far, (turned into a sort of special GNOME thing, like DCOM I think) but that the api changed and it broke, so they're waiting till the beta comes out before they do it again, but when it does, it can be writen in about 5hrs.
Iain
If it was deliberate, (which it probably wasn't,)
it would have been planned weeks or months ago.
But like they say, DOS isn't done till Lotus doesn't run. So does this mean they're still goig to have DOS hidden somewhere, cos from what I remember, Lotus 123 is still running fine.
Iain
Someone, somewhere, will always need support.
Witness the number of "really easy things like turning on your computer for dummies..." books.