I'm a big fan of Sausage Software's HotDog. It is a code editor, which makes a lot of sense if you are one who likes to have full control over the page's code, but unlike a plain text editor, it adds a lot of very useful tools.
If I'm in a rush, and just need a quick WYSIWYG editor that generates very clean code, then I use Symantec's Visual Page. Most of the other visual editors I've seen generate very dirty code which, even though it may look okay in the browser, is a pain to edit manually later on.
Here in NYC, you can buy those tapes in just about every other corner. It must be an insider's job, since some movies are on sale within a day or two after the sneak preview is shown in just a handful of theaters. They cost about 2 to 5 bucks (depending on you bargaining skills), but you get what you pay for. The few that I've seen where REALLY crappy.
I think its is the content and some of the graphics that were chosen for the hack sites which can be called "clever and witty", rather than the idea itself. Some of it was quite funny. Since the site has been/.'ed into oblivion, I can't give any examples right now.
Later, -- Joao "no clever nor witty.sig here" de Souza
I would normally agree with your statement, but it is not the case here. If you read the 2600 site, they state quite clearly:
"These were submitted by people who like to be clever and witty but who don't really want to launch federal probes by being clever and witty. So they've gone ahead and modified some famous web sites without actually hacking them."
I subscribe to a few high-traffic USENET newsgroups. After a while, I got to the point where I scan for the names of posters I know will have something good to say instead of the subject of the message itself. I think that Rob's system helps this process by quite a lot. It's not about punishing the trolls, but rather encouraging good behavior.
Well, then try telling your mom to install some new software on the machine. I'm not talking about having mom over to use the machine. I was thinking more in terms of having her go to the store, buy the machine, go home, start using it, and install some software she may need. Until that is the case, I'm sorry but the average mom (hello Average Mom!:) will end up getting a windows machine, or a Mac.
Yet, the point of my message, which you apparently missed, was that the day Ms. Average Mom will go out there and purchase her very own Linux machine may be closer than the 2 or 3 years suggested in the message prior to mine.
Anomalous Cowherd wrote: > > Furthermore, it's still quite a ways from being > something that I would want to put on my mom's > computer.
I agree completely. I love Linux, but I have to use MS for work. There is no question about the advantages of Linux over Windows, but for the non-technical person out there, Windows is still easier to use. Although one may argue that these people should be using Macs instead of PCs, since they are even more idiot friendly (to use your own terminology:)
I'm not so sure if it will take 2 to 3 years before Linux reaches the level of "idiot friendliness" as Windows. With the momentum that the OS has gained, its development is bound to start taking a few leaps forward, and this is the main aspect that Linux developers should be concentrating the most if we have any hopes of seeing grandma buying computers with little penguin stickers on it.
Whatever happened to that idea of setting-up an email forwarding service, so that whoever wants to can get their own custom @slashdot.org address in exchange for a $50 bucks donation? Last time I heard that, most people involved in the discussion were pretty much in favor.
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I'm a big fan of Sausage Software's HotDog. It is a code editor, which makes a lot of sense if you are one who likes to have full control over the page's code, but unlike a plain text editor, it adds a lot of very useful tools.
If I'm in a rush, and just need a quick WYSIWYG editor that generates very clean code, then I use Symantec's Visual Page. Most of the other visual editors I've seen generate very dirty code which, even though it may look okay in the browser, is a pain to edit manually later on.
Later.
Since there is a lot of speculation on what the report is all about, why not look at the real thing?
See http://wipo2.wipo.int/process/e ng/final_report.html
Here in NYC, you can buy those tapes in just about every other corner. It must be an insider's job, since some movies are on sale within a day or two after the sneak preview is shown in just a handful of theaters. They cost about 2 to 5 bucks (depending on you bargaining skills), but you get what you pay for. The few that I've seen where REALLY crappy.
Later.
I think its is the content and some of the graphics that were chosen for the hack sites which can be called "clever and witty", rather than the idea itself. Some of it was quite funny. Since the site has been /.'ed into oblivion, I can't give any examples right now.
.sig here" de Souza
Later,
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Joao "no clever nor witty
I would normally agree with your statement, but it is not the case here. If you read the 2600 site, they state quite clearly:
"These were submitted by people who like to be clever and witty but who don't really want to launch federal probes by being clever and witty. So they've gone ahead and modified some famous web sites without actually hacking them."
Perfectly acceptable in my point of view.
Later.
I subscribe to a few high-traffic USENET newsgroups. After a while, I got to the point where I scan for the names of posters I know will have something good to say instead of the subject of the message itself. I think that Rob's system helps this process by quite a lot. It's not about punishing the trolls, but rather encouraging good behavior.
:)
It gets this well known coward's approval
Why not accept cookies? Its not like someone will try to jU&&^^&))
Lost Carrier
Those who haven't done it yet, please take a look at the slashdot entries in your cookies file.
:)
Well, then try telling your mom to install some new software on the machine. I'm not talking about having mom over to use the machine. I was thinking more in terms of having her go to the store, buy the machine, go home, start using it, and install some software she may need. Until that is the case, I'm sorry but the average mom (hello Average Mom! :) will end up getting a windows machine, or a Mac.
Yet, the point of my message, which you apparently missed, was that the day Ms. Average Mom will go out there and purchase her very own Linux machine may be closer than the 2 or 3 years suggested in the message prior to mine.
Later.
"Warning:this stuff certainly is beta right now"
Anomalous Cowherd wrote:
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>
> Furthermore, it's still quite a ways from being
> something that I would want to put on my mom's
> computer.
I agree completely. I love Linux, but I have to use MS for work. There is no question about the advantages of Linux over Windows, but for the non-technical person out there, Windows is still easier to use. Although one may argue that these people should be using Macs instead of PCs, since they are even more idiot friendly (to use your own terminology
I'm not so sure if it will take 2 to 3 years before Linux reaches the level of "idiot friendliness" as Windows. With the momentum that the OS has gained, its development is bound to start taking a few leaps forward, and this is the main aspect that Linux developers should be concentrating the most if we have any hopes of seeing grandma buying computers with little penguin stickers on it.
Ps: Great screen name BTW
Later,
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Joao
I wanna get off!
This is getting too weird...
8-|
It looks like we /.ed the DELL configuration server....
There IS a web based version. It is at http://neylonpc.engin.umich.edu/mst3k/mistings.sh
Whatever happened to that idea of setting-up an email forwarding service, so that whoever wants to can get their own custom @slashdot.org address in exchange for a $50 bucks donation? Last time I heard that, most people involved in the discussion were pretty much in favor.
Later.