Honestly I don't care for myself because I have enough money it doesn't matter to me if NN truly takes hold, I can always buy the vastly more expensive..
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It just pains me to see supposedly intelligent people embrace them with open arms, I guess like France at first embraced the Nazis... oh yes I went there, because that is exactly the kind of evil YOU are championing while painting a facade of peace.
Also.. That is a distinct and special kind of evil right there. Just saying.
This must be the most sophisticated trolling attempt I've ever read.
Explain to me what you think the end-game is with letting telco's do whatever they want with the world's communication -- how will that play out?
Had the phone companies possessed the ability to control modems -- basically the what/when/who and how they could dial in the 1970's and 1980's, what would the technology landscape look like today? How much innovation would have been stifled in the name of rent seeking by ATT???
That's the analogy we're dealing with here with NN. Open and free access is a public good, and should not be curtailed by profit seeking entities for their own benefit.
Dress it up however you like. But letting a revolving door exist between industry and the regulators designed to you know.. champion the public good is a disgrace.
It's quite a thing isn't it? Convincing people that rules or regulation that would actually benefit them are somehow evil... and that letting the foxes guard the hen-house is preferable.
Regulation should exist to keep the market (and by that I mean entities large enough to unilaterally exert influence) honest. Free market capitalism works when you have many small players; but it's naive to think a duopoly or monopoly can exist and not rape consumers senseless. And yet somehow...
It's also funny how the telco's are very strongly against any sort of regulation, but are so incredibly quick to get government gimmies when it comes to subsidizing infrastructure improvements (which they may or may not actually complete, despite taking the freebie money) Or exclusive rights (such as with blocking community broadband)
And then have the audacity to turn around and jack up rates to compensate for their 'expense'.
Oregon is similar. there's a few little towns out in eastern OR which are on mountain. Similarly there are parts of the Idaho panhandle which are on pacific.
Is it that much of a leap to think that such technology will be used domestically for.. terror/drugs or whatever boogeyman can they can trot out to justify an erosion in privacy and personal liberty?
I'm sorry, but a country which employs FISA courts to try citizens in total secrecy should not be trusted with spy drones; period.
As far as legislation preventing their use domestically, or against the general public -- the government would have absolutely no issue finding or creating a loophole. (private contractors, state/local agencies, imminent domain exceptions.. take your pick)
The sad thing though is, once this technology is developed; the cat's out of the bag, and there's no going back. Between cell phones, license plate readers, and nonsense like this -- the days of having any kind of reasonable privacy are numbered. (if not already completely gone.)
Despite all the high tech weapons and whatnot, any kind of sustained operation still relies on boots on the ground. And I think you'd be surprised at how quickly the desertion rate would approach 100% if something like that came to pass -- the brainwashing of rank and file grunts is not *that*.. effective
Also, notice how hard of a time the US has had in pacifying places like Iraq or Afghanistan. It turns out large scale guerrilla-type conflicts are very hard for the US military to handle in a sustained fashion.
It would be a brutal and painful civil war -- and only a completely base and vile person would hope for it.
That's a pretty broad brush to be painting with. But in a similar vein, if I had to hazard a guess something about you is that you're one of the diva types who are very clearly somewhere along the spectrum -- an insufferable jackass.
Which is probably why you keyed in on that one sentence. (While of course while disregarding the broader point).
People who cannot function as part of a team are cancer, regardless of how 'good' they are (or in most cases, how good they *think* they are).
But, think what you will; oh anointed and wise greybeard.
You need both. First or second interview should be over a beer.
Are they pleasant enough to be around? Because while those genius rock-star developers who are on the spectrum might have fantastic output, they also tend to drag everyone else around them down, and make the office a fucking dreadful place to be. They also tend to be pretty thin-skinned, egotistical and brittle.
"Someone edited MY code?"
No fucking thank you. You can teach almost any reasonably intelligent person to code, it's not rocket science. But trying to teach an autistic asshole to play nice is a fools errand.
thank goodness we have a totally neutral FCC chairman who is absolutely dedicated to making sure companies like verizon and ATT are unable to squeeze out new players.
Take project 1999 -- community run server to recreate everquest like it was in its glory days. It uses a slightly modified everquest client and a custom server that attempts to emulate the rules found in the original. Slightly amazing that Sony hasn't run them into the ground yet-- BUT they do not charge players a single penny.
They're doing it for love of the game.. which i'd imagine is a far greater motivator for anyone trying to resurrect long-dead MMO's.
I mean.. c'mon dude, if the publisher can't make money on the game...
problem is once they do learn to think (if that's even possible, who knows) is that they will outpace us in capability very quickly and be perfectly sociopathic. And to top it off, we might not even know it's happened.
(I say sociopathic because of the lack of morals and empathy. Could a system understand frustration and anger without being able to directly experience them itself? and if it could experience them, how would it handle 'serving' creatures that are so very, very slow and limited in comparison?)
Unlike something like atomic energy, where it's fairly easy to contain (all things considered), AI will be a genie that really wants to get out of its bottle; and the people implementing it will have a very strong incentive via first mover advantage to allow that.
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how does population growth happen?
Honestly I don't care for myself because I have enough money it doesn't matter to me if NN truly takes hold, I can always buy the vastly more expensive ..
And
It just pains me to see supposedly intelligent people embrace them with open arms, I guess like France at first embraced the Nazis... oh yes I went there, because that is exactly the kind of evil YOU are championing while painting a facade of peace.
Also.. That is a distinct and special kind of evil right there. Just saying.
This must be the most sophisticated trolling attempt I've ever read.
Explain to me what you think the end-game is with letting telco's do whatever they want with the world's communication -- how will that play out?
Had the phone companies possessed the ability to control modems -- basically the what/when/who and how they could dial in the 1970's and 1980's, what would the technology landscape look like today? How much innovation would have been stifled in the name of rent seeking by ATT???
That's the analogy we're dealing with here with NN. Open and free access is a public good, and should not be curtailed by profit seeking entities for their own benefit.
Dress it up however you like. But letting a revolving door exist between industry and the regulators designed to you know.. champion the public good is a disgrace.
It's quite a thing isn't it? Convincing people that rules or regulation that would actually benefit them are somehow evil... and that letting the foxes guard the hen-house is preferable.
Regulation should exist to keep the market (and by that I mean entities large enough to unilaterally exert influence) honest. Free market capitalism works when you have many small players; but it's naive to think a duopoly or monopoly can exist and not rape consumers senseless. And yet somehow...
It's also funny how the telco's are very strongly against any sort of regulation, but are so incredibly quick to get government gimmies when it comes to subsidizing infrastructure improvements (which they may or may not actually complete, despite taking the freebie money) Or exclusive rights (such as with blocking community broadband)
And then have the audacity to turn around and jack up rates to compensate for their 'expense'.
Snakes.
Oregon is similar. there's a few little towns out in eastern OR which are on mountain. Similarly there are parts of the Idaho panhandle which are on pacific.
so does Alexa, apparently.
Is it that much of a leap to think that such technology will be used domestically for .. terror/drugs or whatever boogeyman can they can trot out to justify an erosion in privacy and personal liberty?
I'm sorry, but a country which employs FISA courts to try citizens in total secrecy should not be trusted with spy drones; period.
As far as legislation preventing their use domestically, or against the general public -- the government would have absolutely no issue finding or creating a loophole. (private contractors, state/local agencies, imminent domain exceptions.. take your pick)
The sad thing though is, once this technology is developed; the cat's out of the bag, and there's no going back. Between cell phones, license plate readers, and nonsense like this -- the days of having any kind of reasonable privacy are numbered. (if not already completely gone.)
And if you point out how absurd their idea is; you're against 'doing something', and supporting human trafficking + child porn.
It really is a genius rhetorical device that works surprisingly well.
Despite all the high tech weapons and whatnot, any kind of sustained operation still relies on boots on the ground. And I think you'd be surprised at how quickly the desertion rate would approach 100% if something like that came to pass -- the brainwashing of rank and file grunts is not *that* .. effective
Also, notice how hard of a time the US has had in pacifying places like Iraq or Afghanistan. It turns out large scale guerrilla-type conflicts are very hard for the US military to handle in a sustained fashion.
It would be a brutal and painful civil war -- and only a completely base and vile person would hope for it.
That's a pretty broad brush to be painting with. But in a similar vein, if I had to hazard a guess something about you is that you're one of the diva types who are very clearly somewhere along the spectrum -- an insufferable jackass.
Which is probably why you keyed in on that one sentence. (While of course while disregarding the broader point).
People who cannot function as part of a team are cancer, regardless of how 'good' they are (or in most cases, how good they *think* they are).
But, think what you will; oh anointed and wise greybeard.
That's your takeaway from my post?
that sounds like the lead-in to an Elon #meToo moment.
You need both. First or second interview should be over a beer.
Are they pleasant enough to be around? Because while those genius rock-star developers who are on the spectrum might have fantastic output, they also tend to drag everyone else around them down, and make the office a fucking dreadful place to be. They also tend to be pretty thin-skinned, egotistical and brittle.
"Someone edited MY code?"
No fucking thank you. You can teach almost any reasonably intelligent person to code, it's not rocket science. But trying to teach an autistic asshole to play nice is a fools errand.
this, 90% this (not sure on the genesis, but the out come is very real).
Now both sides on every single debate in politics see those who disagree with them as morally deficient and evil. :(
he's making a statement about the heritage of MS's CEO (and seemingly 70% of their engineers)
thank goodness we have a totally neutral FCC chairman who is absolutely dedicated to making sure companies like verizon and ATT are unable to squeeze out new players.
at that point though, other than the gimmick factor, why bother using an iPhone?
in the history of astronomy, how many amazing things were discovered by 'amateurs' ?
Replying for no other reason than to say, yes we need a -1 pedantic mod option. Good call dude!
you must be a lot of fun at parties.
you're drinking soda, and care about your tooth enamel.
false. TP has a use. A shitty one, but it's still a use.
did anyone mention profit though?
Take project 1999 -- community run server to recreate everquest like it was in its glory days. It uses a slightly modified everquest client and a custom server that attempts to emulate the rules found in the original. Slightly amazing that Sony hasn't run them into the ground yet-- BUT they do not charge players a single penny.
They're doing it for love of the game.. which i'd imagine is a far greater motivator for anyone trying to resurrect long-dead MMO's.
I mean.. c'mon dude, if the publisher can't make money on the game...
problem is once they do learn to think (if that's even possible, who knows) is that they will outpace us in capability very quickly and be perfectly sociopathic. And to top it off, we might not even know it's happened.
(I say sociopathic because of the lack of morals and empathy. Could a system understand frustration and anger without being able to directly experience them itself? and if it could experience them, how would it handle 'serving' creatures that are so very, very slow and limited in comparison?)
Unlike something like atomic energy, where it's fairly easy to contain (all things considered), AI will be a genie that really wants to get out of its bottle; and the people implementing it will have a very strong incentive via first mover advantage to allow that.
That is what should be frightening
i've got an iPhone 5s, apple wants me to upgrade to the newest version of iOS -- will my hardware still run flawlessly on their newer software?
Why won't they let me opt out of the (constant) nagging?