Since this is the best news in a long time to come out of the world fight for sane copyright law, it's time we stand up and sing a round of Oh, Canada in support of the Great White North, eh?
o rly? Since when? Last I checked you didn't have to go through some absurd peering arrangement to get Jabber servers to peer. Jabber is at least as scalable as SMTP, which is far more scalable than IRC could ever dream to be.
Brings back some memories, actually. Back around 1997 we used to use a simple ICMP ECHO (ping) packet with a payload of "+++ATH0". Anyone with a modem which did not follow the Hayes specification for the escape sequence (+++ followed by two seconds of "silence") would immediately hang up as the TCP/IP stack sent an ICMP ECHO RESPONSE with the same payload. Was great fun for two or three times
I'm pretty sure you never actually did that, but are trying to crudely update the old BBS trick of getting noobs to type +++ and wait a few seconds without typing anything else. +++ATH0 by itself doesn't work. You have to have a pause until the modem says OK first before you can ATH0. By that point, ATH0 isn't necessariy, noobs dumb enough to fall for it are now in command mode with no idea how to get out or hang up...
I'm interested in technical merit, but no such debate can start off with "Fuck this guy," as paulmer2003 essentially started with. If you're going to call someone a sychophant, it's paulmer. That being said, if he's interested in reassessing his statement and removing any and all ad hominem attacks, I would be happy to listen.
Don't delude yourself into thinking that users are going to fetch your ads and not just the content. ISPs deploying adzapper are on the rise, too. Lack of having a business model doesn't constitute a crisis on our part.
and this is a great example of why and how at work. As if you needed another reason to get your ISP to run a web proxy running adzapper or switch to one that does.
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While I applaud it, I remember the resurrection of Ren & Stimpy and how it just wasn't quite the same anymore.
If people would rather interoperate than proselytize when it came to email, we would still have to have different clients to email people on Compuserve, AOL, MSN, FidoNet, and a myriad of local BBSs. Do you really, honestly believe that exact situation the best answer for IM?
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Does this mean that we can now expect the authors of the YIM transport for Jabber will be able to better support it?
Why aren't you working to eliminate Yahoo contacts by helping them migrate to Jabber? I've been free of the obsolete 4 networks for over a year now. It is possible.
That was exactly the difference I was trying to point out. Railroads use something similar to hybrid cars, except the railroads have been doing it for 50 years now.
If they're both moving from a dead stop, like trains frequently do out of rail yard, you still don't get the huge black smoke even though you can clearly hear the engines rev higher shortly after the engineer notches the throttle higher.
Yes. He has brief periods of lucidity, though. It's too bad he won't get help, he seems like he'd be a pretty interesting person if he weren't such a dick all the time. Almost like maybe he's NPD or bipolar.
BTW, long time, no see, Banner! Drop by the furry chat on Jabber at furry@conference.ursine.ca sometime!
So, it's not actually clear without hard numbers wether or not driving an electric car 500 miles requires more fossil fuels than driving a gasoline car 500 miles.
Sure you can, just not in terms of miles-per-gallon. You have to use the lowest common denominator: BTUs per mile.
Your average 2-ton gasoline automobile uses about 6350 BTUs of energy per mile, and your average 240-ton electric light rail train uses about 1150 BTUs per mile. I would imagine a battery-electric vehicle probably does a bit better than a commuter train.
Let's look at rail transport, which has already gone through this battle almost a century ago. Electric vehicles are more efficient. This was plainly obvious to the railroads very early on. Railroads switched to diesel-electric in the 1960s, which was really taking an old concept (there were a few 100% electrified railroads like Oregon Electric Railway and others by the 1930s, running off overhead wires like many light rail and the Amtrak Northeast Corridor and Florida Funnel lines do today) and making it portable (bringing the power plant along for the ride by installing a few generators on board).
And if you want anecdotal evidence, next time you get stuck at a busy railroad crossing near a rail yard (thus trains speeding up as they leave), watch the locomotive exhaust. It's hardly noticable. Now when the gates go up, look for a dumptruck and watch how much soot it blows out. And the locomotive has four engines roughly the size of the dump truck's cab....
Since most electricity is still generated by burning fossil fuels, an all-electric car would most likely be worse than one burning the fuel directly.
Sure, if you live in some armpit of the planet that still uses coal for power. At least in the northwest, the vast majority of our electric comes from hydropower, followed by steam plants and wind.
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Never mind unlimited copyright, which is essentially what the US has, is a violation of the US Constitution, right? We're just ignoring that now?
Since this is the best news in a long time to come out of the world fight for sane copyright law, it's time we stand up and sing a round of Oh, Canada in support of the Great White North, eh?
o rly? Since when? Last I checked you didn't have to go through some absurd peering arrangement to get Jabber servers to peer. Jabber is at least as scalable as SMTP, which is far more scalable than IRC could ever dream to be.
I'm pretty sure you never actually did that, but are trying to crudely update the old BBS trick of getting noobs to type +++ and wait a few seconds without typing anything else. +++ATH0 by itself doesn't work. You have to have a pause until the modem says OK first before you can ATH0. By that point, ATH0 isn't necessariy, noobs dumb enough to fall for it are now in command mode with no idea how to get out or hang up...
Actually, they really did spam everybody about it last night...
I'm interested in technical merit, but no such debate can start off with "Fuck this guy," as paulmer2003 essentially started with. If you're going to call someone a sychophant, it's paulmer. That being said, if he's interested in reassessing his statement and removing any and all ad hominem attacks, I would be happy to listen.
Rest of comment discarded until paulmer2003 can grow a brain.
You inflict that problem on yourself. Write one.
- Jabber has a built-in authentication method instead of relying on bad, afterthought hacks like NickServ.
- Jabber has built in multiuser chat management without having to rely on afterthought hacks like ChanServ.
- Jabber can't netsplit.
So why is Freenode still stuck in the stone age on this? Better, more reliable IM software exists than IRC these days.Don't delude yourself into thinking that users are going to fetch your ads and not just the content. ISPs deploying adzapper are on the rise, too. Lack of having a business model doesn't constitute a crisis on our part.
and this is a great example of why and how at work. As if you needed another reason to get your ISP to run a web proxy running adzapper or switch to one that does.
But Ren & Stimpy was halfassed to start with.
If people would rather interoperate than proselytize when it came to email, we would still have to have different clients to email people on Compuserve, AOL, MSN, FidoNet, and a myriad of local BBSs. Do you really, honestly believe that exact situation the best answer for IM?
Common side effects of Levanta include dry mouth, headache, poor judgement and poor foresight. People with high blood pressure or a history of circulation problems should not use Levanta. Levanta should not be used by women who are pregnant or could become pregnant. Should Levanta start to smoke, run away, seek shelter and cover head. Levanta may stick to certain types of skin. Do not taunt Levanta. Levanta, Accept No Substitutes!
Why aren't you working to eliminate Yahoo contacts by helping them migrate to Jabber? I've been free of the obsolete 4 networks for over a year now. It is possible.
And yet, the world moves on and Jabber continues to gain users.
Who the hell could miss Kontact anyway?
That was exactly the difference I was trying to point out. Railroads use something similar to hybrid cars, except the railroads have been doing it for 50 years now.
If they're both moving from a dead stop, like trains frequently do out of rail yard, you still don't get the huge black smoke even though you can clearly hear the engines rev higher shortly after the engineer notches the throttle higher.
Yes. He has brief periods of lucidity, though. It's too bad he won't get help, he seems like he'd be a pretty interesting person if he weren't such a dick all the time. Almost like maybe he's NPD or bipolar.
BTW, long time, no see, Banner! Drop by the furry chat on Jabber at furry@conference.ursine.ca sometime!
I never thought I'd see the day when furry drama would get +5 on slashdot...
CNG.
Yes, I know. But everybody knows the center of the universe is the Burnside Bridge.
Sure you can, just not in terms of miles-per-gallon. You have to use the lowest common denominator: BTUs per mile.
Your average 2-ton gasoline automobile uses about 6350 BTUs of energy per mile, and your average 240-ton electric light rail train uses about 1150 BTUs per mile. I would imagine a battery-electric vehicle probably does a bit better than a commuter train.
Let's look at rail transport, which has already gone through this battle almost a century ago. Electric vehicles are more efficient. This was plainly obvious to the railroads very early on. Railroads switched to diesel-electric in the 1960s, which was really taking an old concept (there were a few 100% electrified railroads like Oregon Electric Railway and others by the 1930s, running off overhead wires like many light rail and the Amtrak Northeast Corridor and Florida Funnel lines do today) and making it portable (bringing the power plant along for the ride by installing a few generators on board).
And if you want anecdotal evidence, next time you get stuck at a busy railroad crossing near a rail yard (thus trains speeding up as they leave), watch the locomotive exhaust. It's hardly noticable. Now when the gates go up, look for a dumptruck and watch how much soot it blows out. And the locomotive has four engines roughly the size of the dump truck's cab....
Sure, if you live in some armpit of the planet that still uses coal for power. At least in the northwest, the vast majority of our electric comes from hydropower, followed by steam plants and wind.