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Yahoo! Opens up Their Instant Messenger
prostoalex writes "Reuters is reporting on the new release of Yahoo! Messenger, which will allow third-party applications and plugins to run within the Messenger environment. From the article: 'Initial partners include 30 Boxes, a calendar-sharing site that competes with Google Calendar, commodities trading site Hedgestreet.com and Pando.com, which offers a service for sharing videos or other files via BitTorrent technology. More than 100 mini-programs will be available initially.' The application is currently available in beta. Relatedly, Microsoft is removing the beta warning label from Windows Live Messenger and promises better voice communications, landline calls and future integration with Yahoo! Messenger."
I'm wondering... Will they make it so that ANY of this runs on Linux? If not, why should I care?
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Another 5000 zombies for my botnet! Where's the API? Starting to write my "3rd party app" right now!
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So are they actually providing the information required for home developers to write their own plugins??
I will get people complaining that because I use GAIM I can't install their fancy new plugins.
Then they will vanish from the internet. Forever.
If we can put a man on the moon, why can't we shoot people for Apollo-related non-sequiturs?
Dear lord why are they making shit programs like this. Do you actually know someone who wants to use their computer to videochat at the same time they're talking to someone and IMing a third while downloading something? These IM clients have morphed into horribly bloated slow, cranky fragile pieces of junk. Just what we need - an MS lab project that they magically took the 'beta' tag off even though its the same junk as last week - to compete in the same space as all the other junk.
And of course it will be lashed into WGA and have about 3 million vulnerabilities that never finish getting patched. OK I'm getting closer to a wholesale Mac swap everyday.
Here's the link to the story that they forgot. A pity, though. They're only opening up the IM for extra, user made, modules. I was hoping they published code for the Yahoo messenger for the community. Hell, I'd be happy if they'd just update the linux version or at least make the current versions more WINE friendly. I'd like my voice chat and video, please.
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Here's me thinking they went under in the dot-com bust. Mod Yahoo -1 redundant.
Viral infections and data mining tools that work from WITHIN the messenger itself. No more need to open up those nasty attachments, have a plugin that automagically executes files of all times and dials home without you ever needing to think about it....
ICQ only has a classic.
Of course all good OS X users use Adium or Fire as their cross IM network chat client.
It's turtles all the way down.
I would not be surprised to see Yahoo! instant messenger to integrate with Yahoo! Maps. That's a trend that MS, Google and Yahoo are definitely focussing on. You can already map your Jabber contacts on Google Maps or Google Earth. Yahoo! Maps licensing restrictions were also alleviated considerably during last week's Where 2.0 conference.
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O boy they are following the AOL-Wildtangent model..... Free with one IM program you get a bonus of Spyware!!!(oops I mean an enhanced browsing experience). Just what the world needs.
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...how Slashdot has become a backdoor for cheap marketers. There is no link to TFA and on Yahoo! Messenger plugins there is no plugin for 30boxes a "a calendar-sharing site that competes with Google Calendar". Naughty naughty
I'd trade all this crap for an older version of YIM that didn't crash constantly.
(The current version has a buggy network library that crashes when you switch back and forth between networks, something I do frequently as I switch between my client's VPNs)
The good news is that this will finally make it possible for someone to write a decent tightly integrated encryption module.
Boggles my mind that all of the major IM clients are still sending plaintext across the network. I'd love to be able to use IM at client sites w/o my conversations ending up in the clients logs.
Yes, and don't forget the best part of the new beta. An advertisment at the bottom that you can't get rid of! Wonderful. I am downloading the current non-beta version and saving that one for future use forever.
Anybody else notice this? On the download page for the Y!M Beta, there are three icons besides the msgr8us.exe one: Internet Exploder, Mozilla Firefox, and ymsgr7.exe.d ownload_ns_step2_2.gif Here is the picture with the Firefox icon.
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/us/msg/7/scr/
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until ($TheEndOfTheWorld);
I applaud Yahoo for opening Messenger to 3rd Party modules. For those people who use the service, myself among them, Yahoo must update Messenger for OSX, Linux. It is blatent disregard for the market that they are lax in updating non-Windows Messenger. This "tool" is the only Windows application I use, and the only one keeping me from leaving dual-boot Windows/Linux behind forever in favor of Linux.
Damn, When I read that heading I thought maybe yahoo was going to open up their messager protocal.
This doesn't even deserve to involve the word 'open'. But it can use the word 'API'
...and that is all I have to say about that.
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Damnit, I thought this was going to say Yahoo! opened up their IM protocols. I thought Video/Voice was going to be right around the corner for GAIM and other open source IM clients.
I reserve my "THANK YOU!" for another day....
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Now how about opening the calendar and address book?
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First, where's the alleged link to the Reuters article referenced in the post? Never mind, 15 seconds of Google News helped.
Anyway, the article is a bit short on details, but the promises don't sound too, er, promising. What's it, really? Now people can write Javascriptlets and new plugins for messenger?
Yawwwwn.
Call me back when they open-source the client, release specs for the protocol, and accept input from the larger developer community. Until then, I'll be sticking with the people who have been doing all that for quite a while now.
After a second of holding your mouse still, a little yellow square will appear that says:
Could this be the first sign that the client at hand already has the MSN Protocol connection modules integrated? Wonder why they're not activated at all yet, as this is the only sign I've found of this and even this seems some kind of slip from the YM Programmers.
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Really, I'm surprised Y! Messenger's not dead already. I think I have maybe one contact that uses Yahoo's messenger. Just about everyone I know uses MSN. Even ICQ's less ubiquitous than it was six years ago.
If the topic was "Yahoo! Opens up Their Instant Messenger Protocol/Network"...
Where is the interoperability...?
If they'd wanted to have an open IM system, they'd have jumped on board with Jabber ages ago. This isn't anything to do with "openness", in the sense that most of us understand it; it just means that they have a plugin API now. That makes it "extensible by third parties", not "open."
Until I read the summary I thought that meant they were going to stop their practice of deliberately changing the YIM protocol every other week to break 3rd-party clients.
Does this mean that we can now expect the authors of the YIM transport for Jabber will be able to better support it?
I mean, I'd love to see Yahoo put up their own Jabber gateway, but I'm more realistic than that.
Do companies make money from their proprietary instant messengers? Is it just ad revenue? Every person I know either uses Gaim or Trillian or doesn't click on ads that show up in AOL IM. Perhaps it is just branding name attached. I am sure the competition is good somehow. Maybe it encourages innovation as each tries to outdo the other in features.
However, when will it be that instant messenging gets a standard protocol (or regains it, i.e. IRC)? When I want to email someone, I know their address and I can email them, I don't have to think about which program they are using to read/write their email. When I want to call someone on the phone, I dial their phone number to reach them anywhere in the world.
So, instant messenging has been around since IRC started. Now with Gaim you can treat IRC transparently as another IM client (not that you couldn't before, but now anyone can). So Gaim can symbollically merge them to make a standard protocol. The Gaim protocol, haha.
We have seen so many different messenging systems and they all work the same. The add-ons or upgrades can be good and important - text formatting, voice, video, images. I would like to see a system where you can login to instant messenging, and have all of those features that you want, and even a Nintendo DS can login and use Pictochat. It streams each data based on a standard signal.
Maybe it is just bound to happen and I don't have to worry about it, but it is frustrating to see other forms of communication standardized and not this. Actually it doesn't bother me in the least in day to day life, but then when you stop and think of a better alternative..
I guess no one can just do it for free (although IRC seems to run for free, maybe most servers are at universities). We pay for our email or have ads in our gmail. Hmm.. solution? Maybe google will have one.
It would serve no practical purpose, but it would be funny to do.
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So, is this the death of web 2.0? Are IM programs going to take over the desktop? Are we going to be running word processors as an IM plugin? If Yahoo IM suppose AJAX, anything is possible...
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So i guess with new version announcements for WLM (MSN) and Y!MSG Google will delay announcing their Gtalk-AIM integration for a while in order to garner attention at a later date.
Shame, as it must be due anytime now and i was hoping for some news this week. Oh well, maybe next week.
Yahoo! is so far behind in the IM market that they shouldn't even bother. Not to mention their client sucks, of course.
- GAIM
- Google Talk
- Skype
- ICQ
- MSN Messenger
- *sigh*
I don't think I need another.Now the question is: when are they going to move to Jabber ?
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If you try to install the new Beta it fails. Thinking something is not right in the "open" messenger. It also fails with older versions.
And yet, the world moves on and Jabber continues to gain users.
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they should improve the reliability of ym services. i get disconnected most of the time.
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