Slackware is notoriously easy to maintain and is known for not interfering with the system as a whole... Could I expect the same out of Debian?
I am not sure what you mean by ``interfering'' with the system, but I guess I would say that everything in Debian is the system. [If you want to install non-Debian stuff by hand, just put it in/usr/local and Debian is happy]. And I would say that Debian is very easy to maintain. What is easier than ``apt-get upgrade'' to update my entire system? And ``apt-get install gnome-core'' to play with the latest gnome stuff?
Any previous slack converts to debian have something to say about this? I'd really like some feedback.
Well, I got my start with Linux from Slackware. I downloaded boat loads of Slackware floppies to an office Win3.1 machine and biked them home to my old 486. This was back in the low 1.0.x kernel numbers. And I am gratefull for it, because it was a relatively easy and painless move away from a relatively hard and painful relationship with that MS OS. After about 6 months with Slack, I moved to Debian at it's 0.93 version and haven't looked back since. I have installed one RH system on my dad's PC and worked on one other pre-installed system and while I think RH is headed in the right direction, I prefer a system which just works (even if it lacks all those GUI buttons). I feel Debian gives me this.
Hey, give it a try and make up your own mind, it's free after all. (grin).
Hey, Rob, complaining about RPMs in a Debian article doesn't fit. It causes a psychological transference of flameage. You wrote somewhere that you use Debian on your laptop, so you should know that Debian's Gnome 1.0.1 packages install and work fine (modulo the intrinsic (upstream) instability in Gnome's self proclamed ``stable'' release).
As has Microsoft, RedHat has shown that market share is not at all related to quality.
Seeing as this is a book for, about and for the most part, by members of the open source / free software comunity, I wonder if we will see this document released with the ability to freely redistribute and modify it. Especially considering RMS's contribution to it.
Guess what, you just changed what any program which is started under the current shell thinks that your machine's hostid is.
Now, having answered your sarcasm with my flipant remarks, I would assume that with Linux you could get around Intel's CPU number scheme with something similar (if they go through with it).
Or he can just shut up, go to freshmeat.net, search for gtkfind, install it, and use one of the damn GUI interface that already exists! Now he can click all he wants to.
Look at metalab.unc.edu (nee' sunsite) for a list of vendors who will set you up with a system w/out any MS products (it is all the way at bottom of page).
I am not sure what you mean by ``interfering'' with the system, but I guess I would say that everything in Debian is the system. [If you want to install non-Debian stuff by hand, just put it in /usr/local and Debian is happy]. And I would say that Debian is very easy to maintain. What is easier than ``apt-get upgrade'' to update my entire system? And ``apt-get install gnome-core'' to play with the latest gnome stuff?
Any previous slack converts to debian have something to say about this? I'd really like some feedback.
Well, I got my start with Linux from Slackware. I downloaded boat loads of Slackware floppies to an office Win3.1 machine and biked them home to my old 486. This was back in the low 1.0.x kernel numbers. And I am gratefull for it, because it was a relatively easy and painless move away from a relatively hard and painful relationship with that MS OS. After about 6 months with Slack, I moved to Debian at it's 0.93 version and haven't looked back since. I have installed one RH system on my dad's PC and worked on one other pre-installed system and while I think RH is headed in the right direction, I prefer a system which just works (even if it lacks all those GUI buttons). I feel Debian gives me this.
Hey, give it a try and make up your own mind, it's free after all. (grin).
-Brett.
Hey, nice way to win friends and influence neighbors.
I am sure linux-hw really apreciates how you alienate potential customers.
I hope that someday I can be as cool as you.
[sarcasm: off]
Can't someone ask a simple question with out getting blasted?
Thankfully, not all Debian users are as anoying as you.
Hey, Rob, complaining about RPMs in a Debian article doesn't fit. It causes a psychological transference of flameage. You wrote somewhere that you use Debian on your laptop, so you should know that Debian's Gnome 1.0.1 packages install and work fine (modulo the intrinsic (upstream) instability in Gnome's self proclamed ``stable'' release).
As has Microsoft, RedHat has shown that market share is not at all related to quality.
There is a command line player, mtvp, which comes with mtv. It is not crippled.
Why does /. post this irelavant article? Am I to believe that Justin is implying people actually still use Microsoft products? If so, poor suckers.
-Brett.
The usual `cypherpunks' user and password is valid.
-Brett.
Seeing as this is a book for, about and for the most part, by members of the open source / free software comunity, I wonder if we will see this document released with the ability to freely redistribute and modify it. Especially considering RMS's contribution to it.
where, of course, you should add something meaningfull to insert-some-hostid. Now compile like: Then do: Guess what, you just changed what any program which is started under the current shell thinks that your machine's hostid is.
Now, having answered your sarcasm with my flipant remarks, I would assume that with Linux you could get around Intel's CPU number scheme with something similar (if they go through with it).
Or he can just shut up, go to freshmeat.net, search for gtkfind, install it, and use one of the damn GUI interface that already exists! Now he can click all he wants to.
Look at metalab.unc.edu (nee' sunsite) for a list of vendors who will set you up with a system w/out any MS products (it is all the way at bottom of page).