Perhaps you might consider that females are socialy more 'group- oriented' , and do not generally wish to take up an interest which, if they were male, might at least proffer upon them some element of "coolness", but as a female, totally ostrasizes them from the group of both male programmers and 'normal' people. At least in high school, which is where most CS majors seem to get their start.
It's not that much easier for men in this respect. At the risk of exhuming the hellmouth stories, geeks both male and female are generally ostracized from "normal" society. As to which sex can cope better, I will leave that up to biology/psychology majors.
I do, however, resent the comment about female programmers being ostracized by male programmers. I treat all programmers the same. Anyone who can code a decent program is at the top of my books.
The only difference with female programmers is that I'm much more likely to ask one to marry me =)
I don't know about you, but I'd rather not have a brain surgeon who graduated due to affirmative action working on me.
As far as the CS industry goes, we already have too many morons and just plain stupid people punching out code as it is (How else can you explain Windows?). Pushing underqualified people into the industry will only make things worse.
We're not talking about taking or providing jobs. We're talking about doing a good job.
Adding encouragement to a particular group is one thing. Making a quota is quite another.
If they're just going to mount campaigns to encourage more women to think about CS, then I'm all for it. If, on the other hand, they are going to try for another affirmative action-type fiasco, then forget it. The last thing we need is yet another political agenda pushing more underqualified personnel into the industry just to make everyone feel better.
I remember some of the older instructors at BCIT (British Columbia Institute of Techology) mentioning that when the CS section was first introduced, there was a 50% gender split in enrollment. It then gradually slid down as the years went by, to the point that I doubt it would be higher than 10% today.
Is it because it is a "man's world"? I doubt it. In the early stages of computing there were many women present on the scene (in perspective of the time period, of course). I've had discussions with female collegues regarding this subject and while nowadays that is the outward apearance (due to the serious imbalance in the male/female ratio), inside it is not the case (at least at the office where I worked, anyway). The ratio of women in high positions at the office directly reflected the ratio of women who enrolled in CS programs.
Is there a problem with geek kids chasing the women around? I never saw it in my school. We certainly never treated them any different in my classes. They'd be right there in the thick of it with the rest of us as we commandeered a computer room for 2 weeks during projects crunch and never left except for bathroom breaks and pizza delivery. I was one of those geek kids who was too absorbed in my hacking to even notice the opposite sex =)
Role models? I never had any. I can't think of any computer hackers I looked up to.
Encouragement? Not! I had quite the opposite. "Stop playing with that damn computer!" "Go outside! It's a beautiful day!" etc.
Is it the idea that all CS people are hardcore hackers who use a logic probe to monitor RS-232 Rx and Tx lines? I know of many men who believed this, and avoided CS because of it. I seriously doubt this would have any more (or less) effect on the women.
I'm getting sick and tired of all this liberal "making everyone feel good about themselves" policy that seems to be sweeping the nation these days.
If you don't have the tenacity, ambition, and desire to do what it takes to get what you want, then you don't deserve it. I am an arrogant bastard, and I have a right to be. I worked hard to get what I wanted, and I never gave up, even though the time from vision to completion (of some things) took 10 years or more. I have new goals and visions, and they will be fulfilled even if it kills me.
If you can't take discouragement (barring serious harassment or discrimination, of course) then get the fuck out and let someone more worthy take your place.
It's always hard to leave the place where your friends are. This is nothing new.
I think most people fail to realize that many people nowadays have many "online friends".
I personally can't get into that groove. I'm usually out and about (when I'm not programming, that is), and so most of my friends are around my local town, except for those I left behind when I moved halfway around the world. Still, I don't really mind if I don't speak to them for weeks on end. We just meet up on Battlenet every now and again, or I catch a plane into town once a year and we go on a drinking binge (uh oh.. there's that damn alcohol again! Time for prohibition!).
Everyone who first gets onto the net experiences some form of "addiction" or another. Then the novelty wears off and they use it like they would any other tool. I use it to read the morning slashdot and vent some frustration, and then I go to work and program all day. On weekends I grab a new kernel or wine snapshot or gnome snapshot and fiddle with a few things, or I just get on my bike and ride out to the mountains for a few days.
Hoo-rah.. more psycho-bullshit by the people who understand nothing about the internet or about computers in general (or about psychology, it seems...)
They might as well say that newspapers or nightclubs or video games are addictive like alcohol.
Heck, let's go back to puritanism and say that anything fun is from the devil.
What a load of shit.
I can still remember when I used to spend on average 6 hours a day on the net. Then I got bored and did other things.
The problem is that Billy has left a few too many bodies behind him. It's kinda hard not to have a bleak outlook when you are constantly looking over your shoulder.
As for Billy himself, I got nothing against him. Got billions and billions? More power to him!
I have a problem with anyone who has a stranglehold on the industry. It is a bleak time for everyone during the reign of a monopoly because you see just what we are seeing: stagnation and complete crap in the software industry. We see alpha quality software coming out as release software (ie5 and netscape 4.whatever, for example).
Once Billy is no longer grand poobah of the software industry I will be happy to ignore him like I do everyone else. And once the new emperor sits at his throne, I will fight him as well (well, until it is me on the throne, anyway =)
The ONLY ones who can make these decisions are parents, and if it takes a little illegal sneaking of kids into movies to show that parents should be making the rules, thatn let's sneak some kids into movies!
That statement is, by nature, contradictory. You've just advocated sneaking kids into the movies to show that parents should make the decision. How do you know that the child you are sneaking in has his parents' permission?
What ever happened to "not until age X unless you have permission from your parents"?
If the parent has a problem with what their child is seeing that is between the child and the parent, not society and the child! (And further more if you want to censor what your kids see, you have a problem to begin with!)
I can remember when I was a child, wanting to watch a scary movie (C.H.U.D, if I remember correctly). My parents said no. After much begging and pleading, I eventually managed to convince my parents to let me watch it. I then spent the next 2 months having the most horrifying nightmares ever. I was even afraid to take a shower. My parents said "I told you so." I wished they had just stuck to their guns.
Not coming from a christian, but someone has to set you straight.
EXACTLY! There is absolutely nothing wrong with the word "fuck".
Though here is an interesting thing for all you X-tians out there to ponder, if it is such a bad word howcome there isn't actually anything in the bible saying that you shouldn't say it? Is it not true that the closest thing you can find to it is that you are told to conform to society (which is also stupid in my opp.) and society (due to X-tianity) doesn't like `bad' words? Does that not sound like a viscious cycle of repetition?
There is nothing in the bible about saying "fuck" because the bible was written in hebrew, aramic, and greek, you ignorant fuck.
There are, however, many parts that talk against what is translated as "coarse talking" (in the NIV translation). I'm sure you get the idea.
Maybe you should read it before you slam it. I did. Twice. And it gave me lots of fuel against the whole christian religion too.
If your kid is intelligent and mature enough, it should be his/her choice.
And what if the kid is not intelligent and mature enough? Should it still be his choice? How do you determine if he is intelligent and mature enough? He'd surely want to go. Are you trying to say that he should make the decisions himself, even if he is not equipped to make the right ones?
I'm not saying that parents should have no say, just that this position of "libertarianism once you reach 17, total control beforehand" is a little bit inconsistent.
Why? What other measuring rod would you suggest? How would you determine when a child is old enough to take care of himself (and not need his parents control over his life)? How would you come up with a legal definition for this?
A child is not just a small version of an adult (though there are many adults who are just big versions of children). A child requires guidance and control over his life as he grows. A child must be instructed in how to interact with society and how to take care of himself. A child must have practice in these things, as well. A child will go through many changes, including puberty, where hormones will take over and cloud reason. A child needs protection during these formative years.
A parent must understand this. A parent must be ready to let go when the child has "grown up", whatever the age may be. A parent must recognize when a child is grown up (or not).
This is in a perfect world. Of course, in a perfect world, we would not need laws.
We are not in a perfect world, so it's time to decide what is second best.
1. Don't tell me what my kids can or cannot do. I'm perfectly capable of deciding that myself.
2. Don't undermine my authority over my kids. (Tha t means you, Katz).
I realize that the USA is a fucked up country, but it seems everything you pansies do to fix it just screws it up more. Yes, I am saying all americans are pansies. Why? Because if you weren't, you'd have voted the moronic government out of office by now. Those of you really concerned with the way things are going and who have the political tenacity would have run for office (and would have been voted in if the rest of you fuckwits bothered to vote!).
Come on, people! You now have the power of the internet at your disposal. Don't you realize just how easy it is to have leagues of voters come to your side?
Fix the patent office! Fix the copyright laws! Fix the crypto laws! Fix the gun laws! (I do believe a properly trained gun owner is the best theft-deterrant) Pull money from your military (bloated as hell) and give it to R&D (like FPGA's or disease research) or to NASA. Squash affirmitive action (putting someone into school because of color rather than ability is not fair to anyone, including the poor soul who was thrust into an environment he can't handle mentally) Fix all those stupid child laws! Make punishments match crimes so that people are actually DETERRED from criminal activity (gee, what a concept).
I could go on forever. Now if only I were a citizen of the country I reside in...
The point is, you make a stand for everything you believe in and BOOM! you have a political platform!
Now that you've finished spouting off all of that, perhaps you could find some actual proof of what you've just said?
As far as being persuaded by FUD, that's a given, but threatening to not publish in certain journals? Where did you hear this from? What proof do you have?
It's this kind of thing that this article is talking about. If you have a legitimate beef, then by all means bring it out (Just try to keep their sexual habits, their mothers, and anything else of that nature out of the discussion).
As far as Mindcraft goes, we can see by the numbers that the first benchmark was hardly fair, but now we have the real numbers. Is flaming Mindcraft going to do anything useful? Of course not! What would ranting and raving and shouting profanities do?
Really, think about it.
"Oh he's right you know, I think they are motherfucking whore-bitches the whole lot of them too. Man he's so eloquant in his discourses! As a matter of fact, I think I'll make this my sermon tomorrow!"
Get a grip on reality!
Do you even realize the sheer benefit that this Mindcraft rematch has given the Linux community? We've just had all of our weaknesses compared to NT exposed (The biggest one being the TCP/IP stack not being multithreaded). I can hear the coders typing away even as I write this response. How long do you think it will be before these problems are addressed in the kernel? Microsoft won the battle but they lost the war. We now have a new focus for our developments. Within 6 months we will have dealt with most of the problems and will continue steamrolling along, leaner and meaner than before.
Hello! McFly! Is any of this getting in?
We all know that Windows is going down. It's simply a matter of course now. Microsoft cannot keep up with the winds of change. Open source is now the buzzword of the millenium, and we now have the backing of the silent majority. We have an ice age coming, and it's much kinder to penguins than to dinosaurs.
Your flames will not speed things up. Directly confronting Microsoft will not speed things up. Calling journalists names will not speed things up. Continuing open source and linux development and making it easier for the user will.
Speaking of which, I just LOVED the screenshots of Caledra's new installer! Great job, guys!
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1. If you tell Gnome to switch to WindowMaker instead of Enlightenment, it often decides to ignore you and bring up E anyway. (Even though if you go and check the setting in the config panel, it's still properly set to WM.) So much for making things simple.
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
4. Something in gnome litters core dumps everywhere.
Something in gnome has always littered core dumps everywhere. Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
5. I've seen several cases of "slow login syndrome". When you log into X w/gnome, it inexplicably takes forever to load the window manager and gnome stuff. Once things get started, speed is ok. The syndrome persists even across sessions, which makes sense, but weirder still, you can cure it: switch to a console and kill gnome-session manually. Next time you log in, no problem.
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
Does everybody need pcmcia on their desktop? Is the spell-check dictionary really that vital?
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet. The gnome team has better things to worry about than whether you want pcmcia on your desktop or not.
Things like this make it more work than it should be to make a minimal install.
Agreed, the install leaves much to be desired. Perhaps a few emails to Red Hat offering suggestions as to how to spruce it up a bit?
These things are all fixable, or at least work-around-able. But not very slick for a commercial distribution.
What? A few fixable problems and you're whining already? Come on! At least you get fixes for the problems in a timely manner! Do you think it's easy to test 650MB of software and have it work FLAWLESSLY the first time?
The problem is that writing an open letter for such a trifling problem does nothing but hurt Red Hat unnecessarily. If this problem persisted despite numerous private letters to the company, I'd say by all means. But this looks like a classic case of throwing a tandrum instead of thinking.
So far, everyone here has mentioned that they started at 4.2. I started at 2.2. Before that I ran NetBSD 1.1 on a 68030. These were the days when you got a disk with a mini-kernel on it (880\k floppy, ya know!) that had enough to get the drives mounted where you had previously placed the basic bin tools, the compiler binaries and the kernel and X sources. From there you manually made ALL the devices (thankfully someone came up with a script to do that), then you manually tweaked out a video mode (great fun getting it wrong when it takes 16 hours to compile a new kernel), compiled all the additional binaries and your X driver because you were using an alpha release of the Retina driver, recompiled X because you had to tweak a few things here and there, and then, 5 days later, you were up and running!
Red Hat was a godsend! I couldn't believe how easy it was to install and get running!
The thing is, the Red Hat distributions have always had their minor problems. (2.2 -- or was it 2.3? I can't remember now -- was completely unuseable on the Alpha. 3.1 was better, but the NCR scsi drivers were prone to crash for no reason) 3.1 on Intel, on the other hand, was great! 4.0 was buggy, but it was understood that a dot oh release would have its share of bugs. About 2 weeks later I went to their website and grabbed the whole lot of fixes. Beautiful!
4.1 had a kernel with posix threads! NICE!!! A bit buggy as far as the X server went, but a good build all around. 4.2 was ROCK SOLID.
5.0 worked fine, but the libs seemed a bit screwy and I had to symlink a few things to get any new software to work properly (particularly TCL/Tk)
5.1 was once again quite solid. 5.2 added gnome! COOL!!! Too bad gnome was still very unstable at the time. I'm still using RH5.2 and will be using that release for the web box.
I haven't bothered with 6.0 yet. I'll wait until the fixes come out before upgrading my desktop box.
The point is, it's not that difficult to go to their site and get the fixes as they come. Besides, why the hell would you install a completely new and untested OS on a server? And if it's your desktop box, who cares? You'll get the fixes soon enough.
I can't believe it! I'm starting to sound like my dad. Aye, laddie, we had it tough in my day! 'aving ta trudge barefoot through 5 miles of snow and rocks (not the soft rocks they have today either!) uphill both ways ta refill the generator! Me younger brother would pedal himself ta death on the manual generator to be shuure the power didn't fail complet'ly before the kernel build finish'd! Aye! kids today is gettin' soft!
I sure hope it's more stable than their windows version, which can hardly be called more than a beta. I still use it cause I'm low on ram on this laptop, but the crashing every 20 minutes starts to get on my nerves after awhile.
Actually, we do. (Well some of us, anyway) I like the odd juicy tidbit that slashdot throws by. (I particularly liked the 3D Shannon formula extension link posted many moons ago)
And sometimes, just sometimes, we get bored enough at work to follow these kinds of threads for lack of anything better to do.
Heck, this has got to be the farthest down a thread I have ever gone. Damn.. still 2 hours to go too =(
I'm just pissed off today, anyway. I'll probaby just blow off a bit more steam and then fade back into the background where we all dwell.
Well I dunno.. I think having a woman on all fours, face buried in the pillows and waving her cunt in your face saying "do me! do me now!" makes a nice end to a Saturday well spent myself.
Just because we're hackers doesn't mean we're eunochs.
There comes a time in a true hacker's life when he stops caring what other people think, loses his false modesty, and starts calling things what they are.
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Perhaps you might consider that females are socialy more 'group- oriented' , and do not generally wish to take up an interest which, if they were male, might at least proffer upon them some element of "coolness", but as a female, totally ostrasizes them from the group of both male programmers and 'normal' people. At least in high school, which is where most CS majors seem to get their start.
It's not that much easier for men in this respect.
At the risk of exhuming the hellmouth stories, geeks both male and female are generally ostracized from "normal" society.
As to which sex can cope better, I will leave that up to biology/psychology majors.
I do, however, resent the comment about female programmers being ostracized by male programmers.
I treat all programmers the same. Anyone who can code a decent program is at the top of my books.
The only difference with female programmers is that I'm much more likely to ask one to marry me =)
At least try to get your punctuation and grammar correct when you criticize another's use of english.
I don't know about you, but I'd rather not have a brain surgeon who graduated due to affirmative action working on me.
As far as the CS industry goes, we already have too many morons and just plain stupid people punching out code as it is (How else can you explain Windows?). Pushing underqualified people into the industry will only make things worse.
We're not talking about taking or providing jobs. We're talking about doing a good job.
Adding encouragement to a particular group is one thing. Making a quota is quite another.
The girl who can outcode me is the perfect woman.
When I find her I will marry her and we will take over the world (provided we don't find each other repulsive).
If they're just going to mount campaigns to encourage more women to think about CS, then I'm all for it. If, on the other hand, they are going to try for another affirmative action-type fiasco, then forget it.
The last thing we need is yet another political agenda pushing more underqualified personnel into the industry just to make everyone feel better.
I remember some of the older instructors at BCIT (British Columbia Institute of Techology) mentioning that when the CS section was first introduced, there was a 50% gender split in enrollment. It then gradually slid down as the years went by, to the point that I doubt it would be higher than 10% today.
Is it because it is a "man's world"? I doubt it.
In the early stages of computing there were many women present on the scene (in perspective of the time period, of course).
I've had discussions with female collegues regarding this subject and while nowadays that is the outward apearance (due to the serious imbalance in the male/female ratio), inside it is not the case (at least at the office where I worked, anyway).
The ratio of women in high positions at the office directly reflected the ratio of women who enrolled in CS programs.
Is there a problem with geek kids chasing the women around? I never saw it in my school.
We certainly never treated them any different in my classes. They'd be right there in the thick of it with the rest of us as we commandeered a computer room for 2 weeks during projects crunch and never left except for bathroom breaks and pizza delivery.
I was one of those geek kids who was too absorbed in my hacking to even notice the opposite sex =)
Role models? I never had any. I can't think of any computer hackers I looked up to.
Encouragement? Not! I had quite the opposite.
"Stop playing with that damn computer!"
"Go outside! It's a beautiful day!"
etc.
Is it the idea that all CS people are hardcore hackers who use a logic probe to monitor RS-232 Rx and Tx lines?
I know of many men who believed this, and avoided CS because of it. I seriously doubt this would have any more (or less) effect on the women.
I'm getting sick and tired of all this liberal "making everyone feel good about themselves" policy that seems to be sweeping the nation these days.
If you don't have the tenacity, ambition, and desire to do what it takes to get what you want, then you don't deserve it.
I am an arrogant bastard, and I have a right to be. I worked hard to get what I wanted, and I never gave up, even though the time from vision to completion (of some things) took 10 years or more.
I have new goals and visions, and they will be fulfilled even if it kills me.
If you can't take discouragement (barring serious harassment or discrimination, of course) then get the fuck out and let someone more worthy take your place.
It's always hard to leave the place where your friends are. This is nothing new.
I think most people fail to realize that many people nowadays have many "online friends".
I personally can't get into that groove. I'm usually out and about (when I'm not programming, that is), and so most of my friends are around my local town, except for those I left behind when I moved halfway around the world.
Still, I don't really mind if I don't speak to them for weeks on end. We just meet up on Battlenet every now and again, or I catch a plane into town once a year and we go on a drinking binge (uh oh.. there's that damn alcohol again! Time for prohibition!).
Everyone who first gets onto the net experiences some form of "addiction" or another. Then the novelty wears off and they use it like they would any other tool. I use it to read the morning slashdot and vent some frustration, and then I go to work and program all day.
On weekends I grab a new kernel or wine snapshot or gnome snapshot and fiddle with a few things, or I just get on my bike and ride out to the mountains for a few days.
Hoo-rah.. more psycho-bullshit by the people who understand nothing about the internet or about computers in general (or about psychology, it seems...)
They might as well say that newspapers or nightclubs or video games are addictive like alcohol.
Heck, let's go back to puritanism and say that anything fun is from the devil.
What a load of shit.
I can still remember when I used to spend on average 6 hours a day on the net.
Then I got bored and did other things.
The problem is that Billy has left a few too many bodies behind him. It's kinda hard not to have a bleak outlook when you are constantly looking over your shoulder.
As for Billy himself, I got nothing against him. Got billions and billions? More power to him!
I have a problem with anyone who has a stranglehold on the industry. It is a bleak time for everyone during the reign of a monopoly because you see just what we are seeing: stagnation and complete crap in the software industry. We see alpha quality software coming out as release software (ie5 and netscape 4.whatever, for example).
Once Billy is no longer grand poobah of the software industry I will be happy to ignore him like I do everyone else. And once the new emperor sits at his throne, I will fight him as well (well, until it is me on the throne, anyway =)
The ONLY ones who can make these decisions are parents, and if it takes a little illegal sneaking of kids into movies to show that parents should be making the rules, thatn let's sneak some kids into movies!
That statement is, by nature, contradictory.
You've just advocated sneaking kids into the movies to show that parents should make the decision.
How do you know that the child you are sneaking in has his parents' permission?
What ever happened to "not until age X unless you have permission from your parents"?
If the parent has a problem with what their child is seeing that is between the child and the parent, not society and the child! (And further more if you want to censor what your kids see, you have a problem to begin with!)
I can remember when I was a child, wanting to watch a scary movie (C.H.U.D, if I remember correctly). My parents said no.
After much begging and pleading, I eventually managed to convince my parents to let me watch it.
I then spent the next 2 months having the most horrifying nightmares ever. I was even afraid to take a shower.
My parents said "I told you so."
I wished they had just stuck to their guns.
Not coming from a christian, but someone has to set you straight.
EXACTLY! There is absolutely nothing wrong with the word "fuck".
Though here is an interesting thing for all you X-tians out there to ponder, if it is such a bad word howcome there isn't actually anything in the bible saying that you shouldn't say it? Is it not true that the closest thing you can find to it is that you are told to conform to society (which is also stupid in my opp.) and society (due to X-tianity) doesn't like `bad' words? Does that not sound like a viscious cycle of repetition?
There is nothing in the bible about saying "fuck" because the bible was written in hebrew, aramic, and greek, you ignorant fuck.
There are, however, many parts that talk against what is translated as "coarse talking" (in the NIV translation). I'm sure you get the idea.
Maybe you should read it before you slam it. I did. Twice. And it gave me lots of fuel against the whole christian religion too.
If your kid is intelligent and mature enough, it should be his/her choice.
And what if the kid is not intelligent and mature enough? Should it still be his choice?
How do you determine if he is intelligent and mature enough?
He'd surely want to go. Are you trying to say that he should make the decisions himself, even if he is not equipped to make the right ones?
I'm not saying that parents should have no say, just that this position of "libertarianism once you reach 17, total control beforehand" is a little bit inconsistent.
Why? What other measuring rod would you suggest?
How would you determine when a child is old enough to take care of himself (and not need his parents control over his life)?
How would you come up with a legal definition for this?
A child is not just a small version of an adult (though there are many adults who are just big versions of children).
A child requires guidance and control over his life as he grows.
A child must be instructed in how to interact with society and how to take care of himself.
A child must have practice in these things, as well.
A child will go through many changes, including puberty, where hormones will take over and cloud reason.
A child needs protection during these formative years.
A parent must understand this.
A parent must be ready to let go when the child has "grown up", whatever the age may be.
A parent must recognize when a child is grown up (or not).
This is in a perfect world. Of course, in a perfect world, we would not need laws.
We are not in a perfect world, so it's time to decide what is second best.
All I can say is Amen!
1. Don't tell me what my kids can or cannot do. I'm perfectly capable of deciding that myself.
2. Don't undermine my authority over my kids. (Tha t means you, Katz).
I realize that the USA is a fucked up country, but it seems everything you pansies do to fix it just screws it up more.
Yes, I am saying all americans are pansies. Why? Because if you weren't, you'd have voted the moronic government out of office by now.
Those of you really concerned with the way things are going and who have the political tenacity would have run for office (and would have been voted in if the rest of you fuckwits bothered to vote!).
Come on, people! You now have the power of the internet at your disposal. Don't you realize just how easy it is to have leagues of voters come to your side?
Fix the patent office!
Fix the copyright laws!
Fix the crypto laws!
Fix the gun laws! (I do believe a properly trained gun owner is the best theft-deterrant)
Pull money from your military (bloated as hell) and give it to R&D (like FPGA's or disease research) or to NASA.
Squash affirmitive action (putting someone into school because of color rather than ability is not fair to anyone, including the poor soul who was thrust into an environment he can't handle mentally)
Fix all those stupid child laws!
Make punishments match crimes so that people are actually DETERRED from criminal activity (gee, what a concept).
I could go on forever. Now if only I were a citizen of the country I reside in...
The point is, you make a stand for everything you believe in and BOOM! you have a political platform!
So, what movies have they released on MP3?
Ok, show of hands:
Who here didn't realize that the author meant mpeg when he spoke of movies and mp3 in the same breath?
Who here isn't out for a childish name-game?
Now that you've finished spouting off all of that, perhaps you could find some actual proof of what you've just said?
As far as being persuaded by FUD, that's a given, but threatening to not publish in certain journals? Where did you hear this from? What proof do you have?
It's this kind of thing that this article is talking about. If you have a legitimate beef, then by all means bring it out (Just try to keep their sexual habits, their mothers, and anything else of that nature out of the discussion).
As far as Mindcraft goes, we can see by the numbers that the first benchmark was hardly fair, but now we have the real numbers. Is flaming Mindcraft going to do anything useful? Of course not! What would ranting and raving and shouting profanities do?
Really, think about it.
"Oh he's right you know, I think they are motherfucking whore-bitches the whole lot of them too. Man he's so eloquant in his discourses! As a matter of fact, I think I'll make this my sermon tomorrow!"
Get a grip on reality!
Do you even realize the sheer benefit that this Mindcraft rematch has given the Linux community?
We've just had all of our weaknesses compared to NT exposed (The biggest one being the TCP/IP stack not being multithreaded).
I can hear the coders typing away even as I write this response. How long do you think it will be before these problems are addressed in the kernel?
Microsoft won the battle but they lost the war. We now have a new focus for our developments. Within 6 months we will have dealt with most of the problems and will continue steamrolling along, leaner and meaner than before.
Hello! McFly! Is any of this getting in?
We all know that Windows is going down. It's simply a matter of course now. Microsoft cannot keep up with the winds of change. Open source is now the buzzword of the millenium, and we now have the backing of the silent majority. We have an ice age coming, and it's much kinder to penguins than to dinosaurs.
Your flames will not speed things up. Directly confronting Microsoft will not speed things up.
Calling journalists names will not speed things up.
Continuing open source and linux development and making it easier for the user will.
Speaking of which, I just LOVED the screenshots of Caledra's new installer! Great job, guys!
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"When an opposing army is crossing a river, do not attack them before they cross. Do not attack them after they cross. Attack them when half of their forces have crossed." - Sun Tzu, The Art of War
1. If you tell Gnome to switch to WindowMaker instead of Enlightenment, it often decides to ignore you and bring up E anyway. (Even though if you go and check the setting in the config panel, it's still properly set to WM.) So much for making things simple.
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
4. Something in gnome litters core dumps everywhere.
Something in gnome has always littered core dumps everywhere.
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
5. I've seen several cases of "slow login syndrome". When you log into X w/gnome, it inexplicably takes forever to load the window manager and gnome stuff. Once things get started, speed is ok. The syndrome persists even across sessions, which makes sense, but weirder still, you can cure it: switch to a console and kill gnome-session manually. Next time you log in, no problem.
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
Does everybody need pcmcia on their desktop? Is the spell-check dictionary really that vital?
Gnome is a work-in-progress and is not quite stable yet.
The gnome team has better things to worry about than whether you want pcmcia on your desktop or not.
Things like this make it more work than it should be to make a minimal install.
Agreed, the install leaves much to be desired. Perhaps a few emails to Red Hat offering suggestions as to how to spruce it up a bit?
These things are all fixable, or at least work-around-able. But not very slick for a commercial distribution.
What? A few fixable problems and you're whining already?
Come on! At least you get fixes for the problems in a timely manner! Do you think it's easy to test 650MB of software and have it work FLAWLESSLY the first time?
The problem is that writing an open letter for such a trifling problem does nothing but hurt Red Hat unnecessarily.
If this problem persisted despite numerous private letters to the company, I'd say by all means. But this looks like a classic case of throwing a tandrum instead of thinking.
So far, everyone here has mentioned that they started at 4.2. I started at 2.2. Before that I ran NetBSD 1.1 on a 68030. These were the days when you got a disk with a mini-kernel on it (880\k floppy, ya know!) that had enough to get the drives mounted where you had previously placed the basic bin tools, the compiler binaries and the kernel and X sources. From there you manually made ALL the devices (thankfully someone came up with a script to do that), then you manually tweaked out a video mode (great fun getting it wrong when it takes 16 hours to compile a new kernel), compiled all the additional binaries and your X driver because you were using an alpha release of the Retina driver, recompiled X because you had to tweak a few things here and there, and then, 5 days later, you were up and running!
Red Hat was a godsend! I couldn't believe how easy it was to install and get running!
The thing is, the Red Hat distributions have always had their minor problems. (2.2 -- or was it 2.3? I can't remember now -- was completely unuseable on the Alpha. 3.1 was better, but the NCR scsi drivers were prone to crash for no reason)
3.1 on Intel, on the other hand, was great!
4.0 was buggy, but it was understood that a dot oh release would have its share of bugs. About 2 weeks later I went to their website and grabbed the whole lot of fixes. Beautiful!
4.1 had a kernel with posix threads! NICE!!! A bit buggy as far as the X server went, but a good build all around.
4.2 was ROCK SOLID.
5.0 worked fine, but the libs seemed a bit screwy and I had to symlink a few things to get any new software to work properly (particularly TCL/Tk)
5.1 was once again quite solid.
5.2 added gnome! COOL!!! Too bad gnome was still very unstable at the time.
I'm still using RH5.2 and will be using that release for the web box.
I haven't bothered with 6.0 yet. I'll wait until the fixes come out before upgrading my desktop box.
The point is, it's not that difficult to go to their site and get the fixes as they come. Besides, why the hell would you install a completely new and untested OS on a server?
And if it's your desktop box, who cares? You'll get the fixes soon enough.
I can't believe it! I'm starting to sound like my dad.
Aye, laddie, we had it tough in my day! 'aving ta trudge barefoot through 5 miles of snow and rocks (not the soft rocks they have today either!) uphill both ways ta refill the generator! Me younger brother would pedal himself ta death on the manual generator to be shuure the power didn't fail complet'ly before the kernel build finish'd! Aye! kids today is gettin' soft!
I sure hope it's more stable than their windows version, which can hardly be called more than a beta.
I still use it cause I'm low on ram on this laptop, but the crashing every 20 minutes starts to get on my nerves after awhile.
techno-american
Sounds too much like newspeak to me.
Besides, I'm not american.
Actually, we do. (Well some of us, anyway)
I like the odd juicy tidbit that slashdot throws by.
(I particularly liked the 3D Shannon formula extension link posted many moons ago)
And sometimes, just sometimes, we get bored enough at work to follow these kinds of threads for lack of anything better to do.
Heck, this has got to be the farthest down a thread I have ever gone. Damn.. still 2 hours to go too =(
I'm just pissed off today, anyway. I'll probaby just blow off a bit more steam and then fade back into the background where we all dwell.
I'm rather fond of wizard myself. Besides, the sorcerers' robes never have nearly enough pockets in them.
What do you think, Archchancellor?
Well I dunno.. I think having a woman on all fours, face buried in the pillows and waving her cunt in your face saying "do me! do me now!" makes a nice end to a Saturday well spent myself.
Just because we're hackers doesn't mean we're eunochs.
Actually, we're just bored at work and aren't coding our own things at the moment. (Mostly because we're trapped in windows boxes).
Maybe I'll install djgpp...
There comes a time in a true hacker's life when he stops caring what other people think, loses his false modesty, and starts calling things what they are.
Mad as a hatter, you say?
Hell not me! I think they match the tiling perfectly.