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this is OK for you. Are you sure you are in the right country? You're beating the same drum, but once again, there are other opportunites to vote, and I find it hard to believe that there are that many people who are working from 7(or whenever the poles open) to 8pm(or whenever they close). It's just a situation where some people have 'more important' things to do(watch friends, post to/.:) ) than vote.
Clearly you don't have children in day care or school. I can clearly think any number of situations that are not that far fetched where that's case. My own mother raised 4 kids and worked two jobs. Voting for her cost money and time she didn't have. I find this idea that rule of law is some sort of absolute standard somewhat farcical. Rule of law is often read depending on the political biases of the judges. The Florida Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court both proved that in 2000. I loved the US Supreme Court's use of equal proctection under the Constitution for not counting votes. The law doesn't live in a vacuum and the people that enforce it often have their own biases...
The article does point out that PVR technology is here to stay. The convienance of digitally recording shows is something consumers want. They have a point in that Tivo the company may not be around to see the succes of their technology. For cable providers, PVR is a feature, not an entire new product category. It makes sense to include and rebrand the technology in their set top boxes. In a few years PVR will be standard on cable set top boxes.
Neither Transmeta or especially Segway have failed. The Segway business plan calls for getting state legislatures to accept them on sidewalks. This is a necessary step to avoid litigation that might arise from having them on the sidewalk. Segway is state by state indemnifying themselves from lawsuits. Why the slashdot crowd doesn't understand this is a mystery to me. How are they doing? 37 states and counting.
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Nice troll. I find it interesting that your post is the first one that mentions race though.
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You post is completely idiotic. 1. Poll don't close at 7:00. In CA they close at 8:00 which often isn't enough time to have everyone vote. If people arrive at 7:45 and there is a line for voting booths? Should their vote not count? For example today an Arkansas decreed the polls stay up till 10:00 PM because at least one county ran out of ballots. If your polling place runs out of ballots, does that mean your vote doesn't count?
In major cities getting off work to go to you polling place can take time and cost money. Since voting is not a holiday, not everyone can afford to take time to get to the polling place early. Why on earth should late votes be discarded? What's the point of disenfanchising someone? Because the polling place is supposed to be closed? This is democracy in action not a 7/11. The sort of rules bound thinking you are displaying is dangerous in a democracy.
Here's another clue -> Check the legal precedents for late ballots. You will find that even the currnet Supreme Court tends to error on the side of equal protection.
As far as the republicans trying to close the plls on the working man, isn't that EXACTLY the case? Are you saying,"Can't take time off for work?" Well screw you, we are going to make sure you don't get to vote. I find it amazing that this is OK for you. Are you sure you are in the right country?
I don't think you realize how dangerous it is to "discard" votes (and why almost all the time those votes are counted, not discarded). Democracies like ours operate on the principle one person, one vote. Any attempts to disenfranchise the right to vote is wrong. From poll taxes to roadblocks in Florida, thwarting the democractic process is extremely damaging to society in the long run.
Re:Fritz Hollings out as commerce committee chair!
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that's doesn't mean the bill is dead by any stretch. That bill had extensive bi-partisan support. Disney can lobby Republicans as easily as they can Democrats.
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Sorry that's not true either. Both Fox and UPN in an effort to get ahead in reporting "the news" have prematurely reported exit polls in Los Angeles before the polls closed and indeed they are still open now.
This is actually good news in a way.
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Exit polls are oftened cited as a problem in our elections. How many times have you seen an exit poll while the election was still going on? All the time and often it simply discourages voters from casting their votes... Why bother is Candidate X is leading in the exit polls. I actually am interested to see if the mid term turn out is greater than normal as a result. Mid term elections are always crappy.
Not really, you simply change the order in which your filters get checked and filter out legitimate mailing list traffic from SPAM. For example I am member of various ZDNet lists and development lists. I filter those based on the sender or the from address into my mailbox for them and then I can read them at my leasure.
Your impression of open source developers is distinctly wrong. You need to seperate the people love linux because they grew up with it from the people who actually do development and can make commits to the kernal. You are making a rather broad generalization when you say "Unfortunately, the vast majority of OSS developers are not very old (less than 25), and don't have the perspective to appreciate trying to maintain 10 year old code that has been modified 20 zillion times." Source? Your personal opinion? If you take a look at the people work actually make significant open source project work, they in no way match your description. When you say the vast majority do you mean the vast majority of OSS projects that get started and then dropped? That's the nature of OSS. Crap generally make it into the kernal or a mature project.
According to the article 150 individual investors have raised the money. That means about 160,000 a piece. Raising that sort of money is relatively easy. Note that not a singular institutional investment firm has invested. It means this guy has gone to 150 relatively rich people who can part with $150,000 and raised the money.
Actually "tens of millions" of dollars worth of corporate liability insurance doens't cost that much. My company has 5 million in liability, $5 million in errors and ommissions etc. It's relatively affordable and I can purchase additional coverage in blocks of 5 mil. The cost on insurance like that is about $2100 a quarter and it covers the same sorts of issues (we are software developers.) The barrier to entry is getting you cert bundled with browsers and you can bet I am looking into getting into the Cert business right now. It's a great opportunity.
I can only assume this post is flame bait. Elephants are related to mammoths, not directly descended from them.
Hmm, doesn't evolution say they were several hundred thousand or even a couple million years old? Guess Science has failed and God wins this round yet AGAIN
I am unsure what science you are using here. Mammoths were an adaptive change dating to the beginning of the last ice age. They died out towards the end, although their may have been a few kicking around still 5-6 thousand years ago.
BTW, I personally believe the earth is younger than that, like around 6-10 thousand years old.
Using generational dating from the King James Bible? That's questionable even among die hard creationists. I would suggest you take a closer look at the Talmud before jumping into any strange forays into highly dubious math.
Oh yeah and all the evidence the universe is billions of years old. I alway find it amazing that people seem to think that God is a rather limited thinker and something as complex and novel as evolution would utterly impossible for him to think up. Exactly why should we trust a text so crusty and old that we can't properly translate the original language. God is a lot smarter than you, me and the guy who wrote the Bible.
Having talked with my VA linux rep and after talking with Michelle Krauss at the Open Source conference here are the basics on Open Sales.
1. The product is real. I got a very nice demo of the system working at Linuxworld and it appears to work. This is a good thing since shopping carts really aren't that hard to do.
2. It hasn't been released yet and there is no word on when it will be released. I have heard that a pre-release version might be available in a week or two or three. (This number seems to grow every time I ask about it.)
3. Essentially the business model is give the e-commerce software away and then sell things like the Affiliates program, Pick pack and ship and inventory management. Apparently the cluster management software will be sold as well. So you get a really useful content management, and e-commerce solution and can buy modules for it.
4. The license is the most difficult part of the software because no one has seen it. It has not been posted to the open source license discussion groups and Michelle said that members of the open source community were looking at the license. ESR had not seen it when I asked him about it, and I haven't asked Bruce Perens. I am pretty sure they haven't run it by Stallman tho. What was said at the Open Source Conference was that it WILL NOT be GPLed. The license according to Michelle has a flavor similar to the Mozilla license (which I consider a failure of a license). Apparently the GPL is too restrictive (in that it forces you to be free) and the BSD license is too free (it allows easier entrance by a competitor). It was indicated at the Open Source conference that it is still being re-written by the legal department. This is the most worrisome thing about this project. It would seem to me that any open source product that is not using a standard open source license should be discussed in the community and not sprung on the community. The idea that license is still in legal after all this time is really worrisome.
5. I have to admit that my company is coming out with a similar product using the BSD license. We haven't built a "Coming Soon" site like Open Sales since we would like to have all the documentation and the various other elements of an open source community project (CVS, Mailing lists, and Jitterbug among other things) as well as the code available. We have built 28 or so e-commerce sites with our software over the past eighteen months with the software. It deploys a site fairly quickly with a similar set of proposed features of Open Sales. A list of sites built with the code we will be open sourcing is found here. My CTO believes you should launch an actual system as opposed to "pressware." So in the next month or so we should actually launch. You can send me mail if you want to be notified when we launch.
This is an Idealabs company so they have had a number of notable successes in the past such as Citysearch, Goto,NetZero and Etoys. They have also have had some failures such ewallet. They have quite a few resources so they can try some new and experimental ideas.
VA is a 200 person company. Cobalt is a 35 person company. SGI is a 9,000 person company. SGI invested 6 mil in VA. SGI has something like 750 million in the bank (it used to be over a billion but they burned through a chunk.) Redhat has a large market cap which doesn't equate into cash. VA had just 15 million in sales last year. Buy SGI? No not really.
Greed? It would be greed if they were profitable and then they decided to cut jobs. The fact of the matter is they have lost money for a long time and are no longer in a position to do so. I doubt very much that "scabs" are going to hired. In fact I doubt those jobs will ever be replaced. SGI is no longer in a position to support IRIX R&D which is why they open-sourcing everything they have. I love slashdot but most slashdotters have no idea about the difficulty of actually running a company. The comments where people talk about the corporate greed of SGI as it attempts to avoid going completely out business is amazing. Does anyone think they actually wanted to let those people go? What I found amazing is that SGI waited this long. They have been bleeding red for a long time.
They are open sourcing every piece of IP they own. They don't care about the community? They are GPLing it. Right now they are bleeding money and they need to stop. Unless you think keeping everyone employed until they go out of business is a good idea. SGI is getting behind Linux (with investments with VA Linux and Linuxcare) and open sourcing their IP. I doubt the logo change is the source of their current problems. Failing to price product properly in the marketplace is probably a larger problem along with poor customer service.
Sorry but I you pay attention to what is happening at the senior VP level at SGI. John Vrolyk, Senior Vice President in the Computer Systems Business Unit gave a speech at the Open Source Conference in Monterey. There he highlighted several things.
1. Linux is the OS of the future. Porting XFS to Linux is just the beginning. Every piece of OS IP (intelluctual property) that SGI owns is going to be open sourced. Right now they are reviewing patents/outside IP so that they don't step on anyone's toes. IRIX will be discontinued in so far that it will not exist as a seperate commercial OS. IRIX development will continue in the short term, however SGI understands the strategic value of open source. This not happening for several years, simply because they didn't want to overwhelm the open source community with too much to integrate. As John said,"I have 539 engineers who would overwhelm the open source community with features." So expect this to be a long multi-year deployment.
2. Beau believes that commercial Unixes are beginning their slow death knell. Eventually you will see two OSes (Linux and NT) based on largely the Intel platform. Linux is driving the cost of the OS to zero so that it will be exceedingly difficult to make money selling an OS. Likewise you will find Linux EVERYWHERE.
3. SGI has well over 1 billion in cash reserves. This puts them in fairly good financial footing and able to make strategic investments (like the 6 mil they pumped into VA Linux). So they aren't hurting that much. When VA goes public that investment will be worth quite a bit.
4. MIPS is platform which is of declining importance which SGI is moving away from. They aren't moving Linux to MIPS because SGI is moving away from MIPS.
These are gradual structural changes at SGI so expect them to take a couple of years.
Jesus GUYS BUY THE STOCK. Inside word is that Redhat should triple in value on opening day.I would love to buy some Redhat stock but I am not a developer but the lonely CEO of a open source e-commerce company. If you got "a spam" take advantage of it. It's not often that you get the chance to safely triple your money.
Well for someone who is supposed to be offering advice about network servers it seems strange that they don't own their own server. According to Netcraft NCFocus runs on Solaris. However that is actually a virtual host at I-2000.com a NY ISP, so this guy's company doesn't even run its own web server! Yeah sure I'll take networking advice from someone who doesn't run a web server. I am sure he's a three man shop and the editor said "Find someone who will bash linux and we will print it. Linux is getting too much good press these days."
Clearly Microsoft is attacking Linux in the only way it can - the difficulty of setting up an OS. I had occasion about two weeks about to completely install Windows on one of the art machines in the office. It proved about twice as difficult as the latest Redhat 5.2 install with the primary problems of getting the CD-ROM to work. However the articles are framed in the context of installing an operating system. How many users have installed their own operating system? Outside of Slashdoters, very few! The simple fact of the matter is that MS controls which OSes are installed at the factory level. The license agreements with OEMS essentially prevent them from selling another OS. If there is one effect that we have seen out of the Justice department inquiry is that given the opportunity OEMs will bundle another OS. I would venture to guess that if the Justice department wasn't suing MS we would not be seeing major OEMS pre-loading Linux.
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this is OK for you. Are you sure you are in the right country?
You're beating the same drum, but once again, there are other opportunites to vote, and I find it hard to believe that there are that many people who are working from 7(or whenever the poles open) to 8pm(or whenever they close). It's just a situation where some people have 'more important' things to do(watch friends, post to
Clearly you don't have children in day care or school. I can clearly think any number of situations that are not that far fetched where that's case. My own mother raised 4 kids and worked two jobs. Voting for her cost money and time she didn't have. I find this idea that rule of law is some sort of absolute standard somewhat farcical. Rule of law is often read depending on the political biases of the judges. The Florida Supreme Court and the US Supreme Court both proved that in 2000. I loved the US Supreme Court's use of equal proctection under the Constitution for not counting votes. The law doesn't live in a vacuum and the people that enforce it often have their own biases...
The article does point out that PVR technology is here to stay. The convienance of digitally recording shows is something consumers want. They have a point in that Tivo the company may not be around to see the succes of their technology. For cable providers, PVR is a feature, not an entire new product category. It makes sense to include and rebrand the technology in their set top boxes. In a few years PVR will be standard on cable set top boxes.
Neither Transmeta or especially Segway have failed. The Segway business plan calls for getting state legislatures to accept them on sidewalks. This is a necessary step to avoid litigation that might arise from having them on the sidewalk. Segway is state by state indemnifying themselves from lawsuits. Why the slashdot crowd doesn't understand this is a mystery to me. How are they doing? 37 states and counting.
Nice troll. I find it interesting that your post is the first one that mentions race though.
You post is completely idiotic.
1. Poll don't close at 7:00. In CA they close at 8:00 which often isn't enough time to have everyone vote. If people arrive at 7:45 and there is a line for voting booths? Should their vote not count? For example today an Arkansas decreed the polls stay up till 10:00 PM because at least one county ran out of ballots. If your polling place runs out of ballots, does that mean your vote doesn't count?
In major cities getting off work to go to you polling place can take time and cost money. Since voting is not a holiday, not everyone can afford to take time to get to the polling place early. Why on earth should late votes be discarded? What's the point of disenfanchising someone? Because the polling place is supposed to be closed? This is democracy in action not a 7/11. The sort of rules bound thinking you are displaying is dangerous in a democracy.
Here's another clue -> Check the legal precedents for late ballots. You will find that even the currnet Supreme Court tends to error on the side of equal protection.
As far as the republicans trying to close the plls on the working man, isn't that EXACTLY the case? Are you saying,"Can't take time off for work?" Well screw you, we are going to make sure you don't get to vote. I find it amazing that this is OK for you. Are you sure you are in the right country?
I don't think you realize how dangerous it is to "discard" votes (and why almost all the time those votes are counted, not discarded). Democracies like ours operate on the principle one person, one vote. Any attempts to disenfranchise the right to vote is wrong. From poll taxes to roadblocks in Florida, thwarting the democractic process is extremely damaging to society in the long run.
that's doesn't mean the bill is dead by any stretch. That bill had extensive bi-partisan support. Disney can lobby Republicans as easily as they can Democrats.
Sorry that's not true either. Both Fox and UPN in an effort to get ahead in reporting "the news" have prematurely reported exit polls in Los Angeles before the polls closed and indeed they are still open now.
Exit polls are oftened cited as a problem in our elections. How many times have you seen an exit poll while the election was still going on? All the time and often it simply discourages voters from casting their votes... Why bother is Candidate X is leading in the exit polls. I actually am interested to see if the mid term turn out is greater than normal as a result. Mid term elections are always crappy.
Not really, you simply change the order in which your filters get checked and filter out legitimate mailing list traffic from SPAM. For example I am member of various ZDNet lists and development lists. I filter those based on the sender or the from address into my mailbox for them and then I can read them at my leasure.
Your impression of open source developers is distinctly wrong. You need to seperate the people love linux because they grew up with it from the people who actually do development and can make commits to the kernal. You are making a rather broad generalization when you say
"Unfortunately, the vast majority of OSS developers are not very old (less than 25), and don't have the perspective to appreciate trying to maintain 10 year old code that has been modified 20 zillion times."
Source? Your personal opinion? If you take a look at the people work actually make significant open source project work, they in no way match your description. When you say the vast majority do you mean the vast majority of OSS projects that get started and then dropped? That's the nature of OSS. Crap generally make it into the kernal or a mature project.
According to the article 150 individual investors have raised the money. That means about 160,000 a piece. Raising that sort of money is relatively easy. Note that not a singular institutional investment firm has invested. It means this guy has gone to 150 relatively rich people who can part with $150,000 and raised the money.
Actually "tens of millions" of dollars worth of corporate liability insurance doens't cost that much. My company has 5 million in liability, $5 million in errors and ommissions etc. It's relatively affordable and I can purchase additional coverage in blocks of 5 mil. The cost on insurance like that is about $2100 a quarter and it covers the same sorts of issues (we are software developers.) The barrier to entry is getting you cert bundled with browsers and you can bet I am looking into getting into the Cert business right now. It's a great opportunity.
How about E-Toys?
I am unsure what science you are using here. Mammoths were an adaptive change dating to the beginning of the last ice age. They died out towards the end, although their may have been a few kicking around still 5-6 thousand years ago.
Using generational dating from the King James Bible? That's questionable even among die hard creationists. I would suggest you take a closer look at the Talmud before jumping into any strange forays into highly dubious math.
Oh yeah and all the evidence the universe is billions of years old. I alway find it amazing that people seem to think that God is a rather limited thinker and something as complex and novel as evolution would utterly impossible for him to think up. Exactly why should we trust a text so crusty and old that we can't properly translate the original language. God is a lot smarter than you, me and the guy who wrote the Bible.
Having talked with my VA linux rep and after talking with Michelle Krauss at the Open Source conference here are the basics on Open Sales.
1. The product is real. I got a very nice demo of the system working at Linuxworld and it appears to work. This is a good thing since shopping carts really aren't that hard to do.
2. It hasn't been released yet and there is no word on when it will be released. I have heard that a pre-release version might be available in a week or two or three. (This number seems to grow every time I ask about it.)
3. Essentially the business model is give the e-commerce software away and then sell things like the Affiliates program, Pick pack and ship and inventory management. Apparently the cluster management software will be sold as well. So you get a really useful content management, and e-commerce solution and can buy modules for it.
4. The license is the most difficult part of the software because no one has seen it. It has not been posted to the open source license discussion groups and Michelle said that members of the open source community were looking at the license. ESR had not seen it when I asked him about it, and I haven't asked Bruce Perens. I am pretty sure they haven't run it by Stallman tho. What was said at the Open Source Conference was that it WILL NOT be GPLed. The license according to Michelle has a flavor similar to the Mozilla license (which I consider a failure of a license). Apparently the GPL is too restrictive (in that it forces you to be free) and the BSD license is too free (it allows easier entrance by a competitor). It was indicated at the Open Source conference that it is still being re-written by the legal department. This is the most worrisome thing about this project. It would seem to me that any open source product that is not using a standard open source license should be discussed in the community and not sprung on the community. The idea that license is still in legal after all this time is really worrisome.
5. I have to admit that my company is coming out with a similar product using the BSD license. We haven't built a "Coming Soon" site like Open Sales since we would like to have all the documentation and the various other elements of an open source community project (CVS, Mailing lists, and Jitterbug among other things) as well as the code available. We have built 28 or so e-commerce sites with our software over the past eighteen months with the software. It deploys a site fairly quickly with a similar set of proposed features of Open Sales. A list of sites built with the code we will be open sourcing is found here.
My CTO believes you should launch an actual system as opposed to "pressware." So in the next month or so we should actually launch. You can send me mail if you want to be notified when we launch.
This is an Idealabs company so they have had a number of notable successes in the past such as Citysearch, Goto,NetZero and Etoys. They have also have had some failures such ewallet. They have quite a few resources so they can try some new and experimental ideas.
VA is a 200 person company. Cobalt is a 35 person company. SGI is a 9,000 person company. SGI invested 6 mil in VA. SGI has something like 750 million in the bank (it used to be over a billion but they burned through a chunk.) Redhat has a large market cap which doesn't equate into cash. VA had just 15 million in sales last year. Buy SGI? No not really.
Greed? It would be greed if they were profitable and then they decided to cut jobs. The fact of the matter is they have lost money for a long time and are no longer in a position to do so. I doubt very much that "scabs" are going to hired. In fact I doubt those jobs will ever be replaced. SGI is no longer in a position to support IRIX R&D which is why they open-sourcing everything they have. I love slashdot but most slashdotters have no idea about the difficulty of actually running a company. The comments where people talk about the corporate greed of SGI as it attempts to avoid going completely out business is amazing. Does anyone think they actually wanted to let those people go? What I found amazing is that SGI waited this long. They have been bleeding red for a long time.
They are open sourcing every piece of IP they own. They don't care about the community? They are GPLing it. Right now they are bleeding money and they need to stop. Unless you think keeping everyone employed until they go out of business is a good idea. SGI is getting behind Linux (with investments with VA Linux and Linuxcare) and open sourcing their IP. I doubt the logo change is the source of their current problems. Failing to price product properly in the marketplace is probably a larger problem along with poor customer service.
Sorry but I you pay attention to what is happening at the senior VP level at SGI. John Vrolyk, Senior Vice President in the Computer Systems Business Unit gave a speech at the Open Source Conference in Monterey. There he highlighted several things.
1. Linux is the OS of the future. Porting XFS to Linux is just the beginning. Every piece of OS IP (intelluctual property) that SGI owns is going to be open sourced. Right now they are reviewing patents/outside IP so that they don't step on anyone's toes. IRIX will be discontinued in so far that it will not exist as a seperate commercial OS. IRIX development will continue in the short term, however SGI understands the strategic value of open source. This not happening for several years, simply because they didn't want to overwhelm the open source community with too much to integrate. As John said,"I have 539 engineers who would overwhelm the open source community with features." So expect this to be a long multi-year deployment.
2. Beau believes that commercial Unixes are beginning their slow death knell. Eventually you will see two OSes (Linux and NT) based on largely the Intel platform. Linux is driving the cost of the OS to zero so that it will be exceedingly difficult to make money selling an OS. Likewise you will find Linux EVERYWHERE.
3. SGI has well over 1 billion in cash reserves. This puts them in fairly good financial footing and able to make strategic investments (like the 6 mil they pumped into VA Linux). So they aren't hurting that much. When VA goes public that investment will be worth quite a bit.
4. MIPS is platform which is of declining importance which SGI is moving away from. They aren't moving Linux to MIPS because SGI is moving away from MIPS.
These are gradual structural changes at SGI so expect them to take a couple of years.
Jesus GUYS BUY THE STOCK. Inside word is that Redhat should triple in value on opening day.I would love to buy some Redhat stock but I am not a developer but the lonely CEO of a open source e-commerce company. If you got "a spam" take advantage of it. It's not often that you get the chance to safely triple your money.
Well for someone who is supposed to be offering advice about network servers it seems strange that they don't own their own server. According to Netcraft NCFocus runs on Solaris. However that is actually a virtual host at I-2000.com a NY ISP, so this guy's company doesn't even run its own web server! Yeah sure I'll take networking advice from someone who doesn't run a web server. I am sure he's a three man shop and the editor said "Find someone who will bash linux and we will print it. Linux is getting too much good press these days."
Clearly Microsoft is attacking Linux in the only way it can - the difficulty of setting up an OS. I had occasion about two weeks about to completely install Windows on one of the art machines in the office. It proved about twice as difficult as the latest Redhat 5.2 install with the primary problems of getting the CD-ROM to work. However the articles are framed in the context of installing an operating system. How many users have installed their own operating system? Outside of Slashdoters, very few! The simple fact of the matter is that MS controls which OSes are installed at the factory level. The license agreements with OEMS essentially prevent them from selling another OS. If there is one effect that we have seen out of the Justice department inquiry is that given the opportunity OEMs will bundle another OS. I would venture to guess that if the Justice department wasn't suing MS we would not be seeing major OEMS pre-loading Linux.