Paradoxically, Holmes coined the "clear and present danger" doctrine to justify repressing speech that actually presented an utterly vague and indefinite danger. (Anarchist exhorted young men not to enlist in the armed forces during wartime; Schenck v. U.S.) One of those things that galls me so bad I sometimes wish I hadn't looked it up.
A lot of every kind of material is available from the Web now, and books aren't obsolete just yet. And with all the work that's gone into ensuring fidelity of transmission over the centuries, the Net would indeed seem a great peril; perhaps modern methods could be adopted for that as well (#insert vision of pgp-signed commentaries...) X-(: (-- sitting smilie, eh)
Right, the traditional maintenance of the teachings is by monks, who have their own organization for providence of food, clothing and shelter. Moving into the modern world is smoother if books are printed and distributed by us householders, so instead of giving the books away and begging for their personal upkeep, they just sell the books. Only a minor adjustment!
"The best necessary" [...] So it is not surprising that they would "officially" adopt an OS that is inexpensive, utilitarian, and not ostentatious or bloated.
So you're saying they won't be using E as their wm.
Far from being a bunch of obnoxious RTFM'ers, the OpenBSD crowd are by and large very helpful. I felt honoured that Theo De Raadt himself responded to one of my posts.
I dunno, I'm on misc@openbsd.org and I'd say that both "helpful" and "obnoxious" are well-represented. Every week I see people being helpful without being obnoxious, obnoxious without being helpful, and helpful and obnoxious in the same message. This may come from the top -- Theo is arguably the most helpful and the most obnoxious of the lot. Then again, that also describes the traditional composition of nearly all of Usenet, so you be the judge.
Congratulations then on picking the right hardware the first time. I got two LinkSys LNE100TXs naively thinking that since they were on the supported hardware list, they would work. As it happens, 2.5 incorrectly matches their chipset (PNIC-II) and tries the wrong driver. I dropped a 2.6 kernel in and all is well, so the fix didn't take a lot of work or a big download, but without the wise guidance of the misc@openbsd.org mailing list I'd have been in deep bandini. To sum up:
+ If you have the right hardware, the install is likely to be smooth.
+ If you have the wrong hardware, WOE BE UNTO YOU! Your only recourse will be to throw it away and get the right hardware.
+ Study of the mailing list archives is mandatory. Among other things, it's the only way you'll ever know which is the right hardware and which is the wrong hardware.
Idiot. Think about it for more than a minute and you might come up with:
1. Wall-mount ATMs (whatever they're called, as opposed to the freestanders popping up in convenience stores etc.) are standard units you can put up next to a sidewalk, driveway, whatever.
Nice boilerplate tax rant. Now let me introduce you to the point: that money goes to the PHONE COMPANY. Now, it's just barely possible that by "Biggest Business in the Country" you meant the phone company. And it's true that they never stop trying to write the laws.
But it just doesn't fit with the rest of your tax-whiner tone. No, I'm afraid you meant the gummint, in which case I must once again rub your nose in the fact that it's the PHONE COMPANY who is coveting this particular cut of your profits, and is just using the FCC as its collection agent.
# (* on most of the systems I use) is the equivalent of sending a FIN. (Then you get to hear the voice politely say "goodbye" and hang up: FIN-ACK (: ). If you just hang up the system has to let the port time out and then close it. Sending the FIN has an efficiency advantage for the system (don't have wasted ports waiting to timeout) as well as the security advantage for you that the other poster suggested.
Agreed except for the part about formatting them later -- once I discovered \LaTeX, I wrote and formatted in the same process. As the other poster mentions, HTML is good for this too -- probably better -- but TimBL was still busy inventing it when I learned \LaTeX.
Eventually the smart ones understand it too well and become terrible tech support reps because they can't explain it to the end user in tiny words that they understand.
Alternately: the smart ones become senior support reps who are no longer any good at explaining simple problems to simple users but have seen many of the weirder problems before and can explain them efficiently to more sophisticated users.
1) Some people rate sex too highly. Some people don't rate it highly enough.
2) Efficient in what terms? In orgasms per unit time, probably, but I can think of other measures that favor other activities.
3) Virgin in what terms? I've found that people have some strange standards for what "counts" as sex. In Lala's case, it sounds like a pretty conservative definition -- oh well, what he's willing to live with is his business.
Side) The trouble with generalizations is that they're always wrong.
but i digress. it's pointless for me to talk about this.. us nerds are destined to be cursed when it comes to women. We all know it's true; all ye with women are not true nerds. I believe the definition of nerd is "ye with computer, ye wh likes computers, ye without a woman". Or something like that. Stop me if i'm wrong:-)
You're wrong. You personally are destined to be cursed in lovin', but it's not your line of work, it's your attitude problem. Call your classmates ugly and wonder why no one will sleep with you...
If I could "get a girl from my CS class", would I? Put it this way -- there's a co-worker sitting less than 20 feet from me right now. She's not in my "class", she's way, way smarter than me (finished her doctorate in CS a few months ago, and yes, I know brains and doctorates are not the same thing). She's also hot enough to make your eyes water.
Anyway, I sentence you to go watch American Pie (great movie!) and become a Sensitive Guy like Oesterreicher. It really does work.
Heh. Check out the guy's name: Schulhof. In English, "schoolyard". I guess when the lunch-money-extorting playground bully grows up, he goes into patent extortion. (:
"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't let them write 'fuck' on their airplanes because it's obscene!" -- Col. Kurtz
Actually, it's a nice time to be preoccupied with ideas like this -- South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut dragged the issue right out onto the living room carpet where Aunt Mildred can ignore it only by dint of strenuous effort.
I'm not qualified to participate in a technical economic discussion, but the lottery ticket example is of somewhat tangential relevance to the domain name milieu, as one of the lottery tickets is legitimately worth something, whereas the domain names in question have no objective worth. IOW, the "willing to pay" assertion may not be true in general but it is true in the specific case of stoopid domain names in that if no one will buy them, they're worthless.
The original respondent was correct in pointing out the flaw in the huckster's logic ("we do so know what your domain names are worth: nothing!") but I was distressed to see him (her, it) go on to rail on the huckster for thinking that they were worth something.
The huckster knows very well that his domains are worth nothing unless he cons someone into buying them. That's why he's trying to tell us how valuable they are. The remark about capacity for self-deception is well taken but irrelevant in this case, as the huckster isn't deceiving himself, he's trying to deceive us.
I'm 31, I don't have a conservative bone in my body, and I loved it. Of course, I'm a big fan of satire, and I have an especially soft spot for metahumor, so I'm just absolutely giddy at the orgy of social self-reference this movie is already starting to provoke. It is a gloriously elegant joke perpetrated by crudity, and that just fills me with awe. By implying that the message could have been delivered less offensively, you become Mr. Mackey, mmmkay?
And by the way, if "Vulgar language and crude behavior just doesn't crack [you] up any more", what the fuck were you doing in that theater? Were you under some illusions about it being a Merchant/Ivory production?
One thing that's occurred to me about SP, that the movies raises the stakes on in a big way, is how people's experiences of it are affected by "Spirit of Christmas". Now I take it for granted that (1) basically all geeks saw SoXmas long before anybody thought of a SP series, but that (2) mainstream audiences, presumably a large majority of people exposed to SP, have never seen SoXmas, and most of them have never heard of it. So while mainstreamers can intellectually fill in the bleeps, they don't actually hear Cartman saying "pigfucker" like we do. (The movie, btw, keeps up the series' tradition of SoXmas in-jokes, I'd say to the point where they're deliberately snubbing people who haven't seen it.)
So. Non-SoXers will presumably be shocked to hear the kids' unbleeped language. They are probably expecting to be shocked, given the controversy and all, but hearing the kids say "pigfucker" will be a new experience for them. For SoXers like me, the movie should feel more natural than hearing the bleeps on CC.
GENERAL SPOILERS FOLLOW. NO SPECIFIC INFORMATION BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET THIS WILL PROBABLY AFFECT YOUR EXPERIENCE OF IT.
I went in expecting the movie to be more like SoXmas than the series. It is, in the sense that 500 million is closer to 10 than it is to 5. SoXmas set a lewd, gory, blasphemous standard, and even by that standard, the movie is absolutely depraved. Matt and Trey knew that I would be less shockable than someone who hadn't seen SoXmas, and they set their sights on blowing away, not only the Mrs. Broslofskis of America, but me as well. Wow. Dude, this is pretty fucked up right here!
In fact, I have accepted a position with VA as well and will be joining them shortly. I am going to be working on developing Eterm and helping raster and mandrake with Enlightenment, Imlib, etc.
ROCK ON! E wouldn't be half as much fun without Eterm. What's the use of having root pixmaps if you can't see them through your translucent terminal windows? Congratulations, and I'm delighted to hear that all this cool stuff is in one place, cos like you say, it'll just make it that much better that much faster.
b) My phone company keeps charging me more money every few months for a basic account. Apparently, the cost of supporting local phone service is quite high...
The cost of providing service hasn't changed, just the rules of the game. As you may know, the regulatory environment for telecomm has gotten so out of hand that nothing actually costs what you pay for it anymore, you pay either more or less and the ILECs, CLECs, FCC, ESPs, decide how to redirect the money, according to rules that seem to change every month. The most recent change is to soak you for any extra phone lines you have (up from $3.50/mo to inflation-adjusted $6 == $6.09 or something) which is apparently going to the long distance companies, so you pay more for your phone, but just watch those LD rates drop!
I'd be more excited about it if I ever made any LD calls, but I console myself with the thought that basic service is already subsidized (Universal Service) so I'm probably paying closer to cost than before. Still maddening though.
Thereby proving the assertions that Linux has not a single original concept in it. [...] It's just amazing that it works, but it sure isn't revolutionary.
Well, don't keep us in suspense! Tell us all about the amazing new design of ScrytchOS! What brainstorms are awaiting our appreciation? Oh, I can't wait any longer, please throw me a tarball or a CVS, even a spec would tide me over...
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Paradoxically, Holmes coined the "clear and present danger" doctrine to justify repressing speech that actually presented an utterly vague and indefinite danger. (Anarchist exhorted young men not to enlist in the armed forces during wartime; Schenck v. U.S.) One of those things that galls me so bad I sometimes wish I hadn't looked it up.
Dammit! Put in <, watch it preview correctly, and previewing *makes it wrong*! Grr!
X<-(: (<-- the real sitting smilie)
A lot of every kind of material is available from the Web now, and books aren't obsolete just yet. And with all the work that's gone into ensuring fidelity of transmission over the centuries, the Net would indeed seem a great peril; perhaps modern methods could be adopted for that as well (#insert vision of pgp-signed commentaries...) X-(: (-- sitting smilie, eh)
It's spelled CTRL-ALT-DEL but pronounced "three-finger salute". (cf. "Mozilla")
Right, the traditional maintenance of the teachings is by monks, who have their own organization for providence of food, clothing and shelter. Moving into the modern world is smoother if books are printed and distributed by us householders, so instead of giving the books away and begging for their personal upkeep, they just sell the books. Only a minor adjustment!
So you're saying they won't be using E as their wm.
I dunno, I'm on misc@openbsd.org and I'd say that both "helpful" and "obnoxious" are well-represented. Every week I see people being helpful without being obnoxious, obnoxious without being helpful, and helpful and obnoxious in the same message. This may come from the top -- Theo is arguably the most helpful and the most obnoxious of the lot. Then again, that also describes the traditional composition of nearly all of Usenet, so you be the judge.
Congratulations then on picking the right hardware the first time. I got two LinkSys LNE100TXs naively thinking that since they were on the supported hardware list, they would work. As it happens, 2.5 incorrectly matches their chipset (PNIC-II) and tries the wrong driver. I dropped a 2.6 kernel in and all is well, so the fix didn't take a lot of work or a big download, but without the wise guidance of the misc@openbsd.org mailing list I'd have been in deep bandini. To sum up:
+ If you have the right hardware, the install is likely to be smooth.
+ If you have the wrong hardware, WOE BE UNTO YOU! Your only recourse will be to throw it away and get the right hardware.
+ Study of the mailing list archives is mandatory. Among other things, it's the only way you'll ever know which is the right hardware and which is the wrong hardware.
Would that be: http://www.openbsd.org/faq/log25.txt by any chance?
Idiot. Think about it for more than a minute and you might come up with:
1. Wall-mount ATMs (whatever they're called, as opposed to the freestanders popping up in convenience stores etc.) are standard units you can put up next to a sidewalk, driveway, whatever.
2. Many blind people take taxis to drive-up ATMs.
My very limited experience with it (I'm more of a software rat) bears out the rumor that it actually stands for Very Hard Description Language.
Nice boilerplate tax rant. Now let me introduce you to the point: that money goes to the PHONE COMPANY. Now, it's just barely possible that by "Biggest Business in the Country" you meant the phone company. And it's true that they never stop trying to write the laws.
But it just doesn't fit with the rest of your tax-whiner tone. No, I'm afraid you meant the gummint, in which case I must once again rub your nose in the fact that it's the PHONE COMPANY who is coveting this particular cut of your profits, and is just using the FCC as its collection agent.
# (* on most of the systems I use) is the equivalent of sending a FIN. (Then you get to hear the voice politely say "goodbye" and hang up: FIN-ACK (: ). If you just hang up the system has to let the port time out and then close it. Sending the FIN has an efficiency advantage for the system (don't have wasted ports waiting to timeout) as well as the security advantage for you that the other poster suggested.
Agreed except for the part about formatting them later -- once I discovered \LaTeX, I wrote and formatted in the same process. As the other poster mentions, HTML is good for this too -- probably better -- but TimBL was still busy inventing it when I learned \LaTeX.
Eventually the smart ones understand it too well and become terrible tech support reps because they can't explain it to the end user in tiny words that they understand.
Alternately: the smart ones become senior support reps who are no longer any good at explaining simple problems to simple users but have seen many of the weirder problems before and can explain them efficiently to more sophisticated users.
1) Some people rate sex too highly. Some people don't rate it highly enough.
2) Efficient in what terms? In orgasms per unit time, probably, but I can think of other measures that favor other activities.
3) Virgin in what terms? I've found that people have some strange standards for what "counts" as sex. In Lala's case, it sounds like a pretty conservative definition -- oh well, what he's willing to live with is his business.
Side) The trouble with generalizations is that they're always wrong.
but i digress. it's pointless for me to talk about this.. us nerds are destined to be cursed when it comes to women. We all know it's true; all ye with women are not true nerds. I believe the definition of nerd is "ye with computer, ye wh likes computers, ye without a woman". Or something like that. Stop me if i'm wrong
You're wrong. You personally are destined to be cursed in lovin', but it's not your line of work, it's your attitude problem. Call your classmates ugly and wonder why no one will sleep with you...
If I could "get a girl from my CS class", would I? Put it this way -- there's a co-worker sitting less than 20 feet from me right now. She's not in my "class", she's way, way smarter than me (finished her doctorate in CS a few months ago, and yes, I know brains and doctorates are not the same thing). She's also hot enough to make your eyes water.
Anyway, I sentence you to go watch American Pie (great movie!) and become a Sensitive Guy like Oesterreicher. It really does work.
Heh. Check out the guy's name: Schulhof. In English, "schoolyard". I guess when the lunch-money-extorting playground bully grows up, he goes into patent extortion. (:
"We train young men to drop fire on people. But their commanders won't let them write 'fuck' on their airplanes because it's obscene!" -- Col. Kurtz
Actually, it's a nice time to be preoccupied with ideas like this -- South Park: Bigger, Longer and Uncut dragged the issue right out onto the living room carpet where Aunt Mildred can ignore it only by dint of strenuous effort.
I'm not qualified to participate in a technical economic discussion, but the lottery ticket example is of somewhat tangential relevance to the domain name milieu, as one of the lottery tickets is legitimately worth something, whereas the domain names in question have no objective worth. IOW, the "willing to pay" assertion may not be true in general but it is true in the specific case of stoopid domain names in that if no one will buy them, they're worthless.
The original respondent was correct in pointing out the flaw in the huckster's logic ("we do so know what your domain names are worth: nothing!") but I was distressed to see him (her, it) go on to rail on the huckster for thinking that they were worth something.
The huckster knows very well that his domains are worth nothing unless he cons someone into buying them. That's why he's trying to tell us how valuable they are. The remark about capacity for self-deception is well taken but irrelevant in this case, as the huckster isn't deceiving himself, he's trying to deceive us.
And by the way, if "Vulgar language and crude behavior just doesn't crack [you] up any more", what the fuck were you doing in that theater? Were you under some illusions about it being a Merchant/Ivory production?
One thing that's occurred to me about SP, that the movies raises the stakes on in a big way, is how people's experiences of it are affected by "Spirit of Christmas". Now I take it for granted that (1) basically all geeks saw SoXmas long before anybody thought of a SP series, but that (2) mainstream audiences, presumably a large majority of people exposed to SP, have never seen SoXmas, and most of them have never heard of it. So while mainstreamers can intellectually fill in the bleeps, they don't actually hear Cartman saying "pigfucker" like we do. (The movie, btw, keeps up the series' tradition of SoXmas in-jokes, I'd say to the point where they're deliberately snubbing people who haven't seen it.)
So. Non-SoXers will presumably be shocked to hear the kids' unbleeped language. They are probably expecting to be shocked, given the controversy and all, but hearing the kids say "pigfucker" will be a new experience for them. For SoXers like me, the movie should feel more natural than hearing the bleeps on CC.
GENERAL SPOILERS FOLLOW. NO SPECIFIC INFORMATION BUT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE MOVIE YET THIS WILL PROBABLY AFFECT YOUR EXPERIENCE OF IT.
I went in expecting the movie to be more like SoXmas than the series. It is, in the sense that 500 million is closer to 10 than it is to 5. SoXmas set a lewd, gory, blasphemous standard, and even by that standard, the movie is absolutely depraved. Matt and Trey knew that I would be less shockable than someone who hadn't seen SoXmas, and they set their sights on blowing away, not only the Mrs. Broslofskis of America, but me as well. Wow. Dude, this is pretty fucked up right here!
In fact, I have accepted a position with VA as well and will be joining them shortly. I am
going to be working on developing Eterm and helping raster and mandrake with Enlightenment, Imlib, etc.
ROCK ON! E wouldn't be half as much fun without Eterm. What's the use of having root pixmaps if you can't see them through your translucent terminal windows? Congratulations, and I'm delighted to hear that all this cool stuff is in one place, cos like you say, it'll just make it that much better that much faster.
b) My phone company keeps charging me more money every few months for a basic account. Apparently, the cost of supporting local phone service is quite high
The cost of providing service hasn't changed, just the rules of the game. As you may know, the regulatory environment for telecomm has gotten so out of hand that nothing actually costs what you pay for it anymore, you pay either more or less and the ILECs, CLECs, FCC, ESPs, decide how to redirect the money, according to rules that seem to change every month. The most recent change is to soak you for any extra phone lines you have (up from $3.50/mo to inflation-adjusted $6 == $6.09 or something) which is apparently going to the long distance companies, so you pay more for your phone, but just watch those LD rates drop!
I'd be more excited about it if I ever made any LD calls, but I console myself with the thought that basic service is already subsidized (Universal Service) so I'm probably paying closer to cost than before. Still maddening though.
I saw someone use this here the other day -- I like it a lot.
$ insmod humor.o
Well, don't keep us in suspense! Tell us all about the amazing new design of ScrytchOS! What brainstorms are awaiting our appreciation? Oh, I can't wait any longer, please throw me a tarball or a CVS, even a spec would tide me over...