If your compiling everything from source, then it compleatly defeats the purpose of using an OS / distribution with "built in" binary package management. Nope. That is long-term survival strategy for "unsupported" software. Everything you need but don't particularly care about is done with package management. Everything that is critical, you already have the compile/make machinery in place.
I pretty well agree with you,..... but can't resist...
The details give it authenticity. Even made-up details to give shape and color to the telling.
The way to credibly discredit something is to attack its foundations. If you can prove the foundations false, that which builds on it cannot be trusted. The question is what are the foundations and what is the gingerbread. The relevant standards are more like tales over a campfire than modern scholarly historians. That Judas quickly died at his own hand seems more like a foundation than exactly how he did it. Died quickly of unknown causes does not a good story make.
Both accounts write Judas out of the script with a very few lines. Both accounts make a point that the Chief Priests reapropriate the money but have sufficient integrity to use it to buy a burial field for Judas. Irrelevant details are required to tell the story, and can be expected to differ among different story tellers.
Another stunt with multiple files. First zip, no compression. Second zip, zip the first zip. Can be significantly smaller than compressing on the first zip.
Right on target. Regardless of any possible merits to SCO's case, they have established themselves as someone you do not want to do business with. Corporate suicide.
buying a license for Microsoft Windows from Dell, and later Microsoft comes along, cancels their contract, and that makes your copy now illegal. Is that Window Update?
Regardless of any possible merits to SCO's allegations, IBM is a pretty big giant to be behind. Methinks if any users have cause to be scared, it's SCO's users.
The world progresses. Slowly. Five steps forward that you can see. Four steps backwards that you mostly cannot see. (Read Rabelais to find out what a goose's neck was good for)
To oversimplify, there are two competitions. One as an individual within the species. One as your species against other species. If you want warfare, look at grasses versus trees. Oversimplifying, grasses raise cows to trample any tree seedlings that happen to get a start.
never is the true hacker afraid to ask how or why. that is the core essence of being elite. The media is accustomed to being able to dispense or withold fame. A hacker is a threat to this "right" of the media.
I think people greatly underestimate the amount of effort, blood, sweat, and tears it would take to "switch" (so to speak) a government agency (let alone a whole government) to Linux.
There was a lot of effort, blood, sweat, and tears going from Second Generation mainframes (think 64k should be enough for anybody) to Third Generation mainframes (think MVS without the M and without the V).
One thing to realize is that the problems to be solved get trimmed and shifted based on our abilities. With a different technology that optimum point moves. A minimum cost attempt at doing exactly what you were doing before generally leads to dissatisfaction and cost overruns. Reevaluating and taking advantage of the new technology causes a few losses, but they weren't worth that much anyway. Overall it's a substantial gain.
Methinks the problem isn't whether to jump ship, it's when and how. Is Linux ready for the desktop doesn't refer to yesterday's desktops, it refers to tomorrows desktops.
somehow manage to make their computers crunch numbers and store data on Windows machines. Wow. Whoopie. Surely we can do better than that!
Hmmm, think of it as insurance. When and if things go wrong, your insurance company needs to be very well heeled. They (with coinsurers, it's a they) need to be able to pay off if the big one hits. For the businesses to not get short-changed (when it needs it most), this needs to be profitable, almost lucrative for SuSE. One thing about IBM of old (and probably still), if they had to, they can move. They do have the resources. I've seen IBM move. Once long ago. A one-bit patch to IBM's COBOL compiler so it would run on the current MFT. (RECFM=FS changed from Fixed Standard to Fixed Spanned and sequential input stuck on same spot on disk). Next day an IBM field engineer was hanging tapes. Didn't look like he wanted to be there. (200 mile drive from Houston)
Has MS ever been successfully sued because a corporate network went down, or a server crashed?
Probably not, but. The issue isn't who gets sued, but the assignment of blame. Regardless of what "goodies" are in the bought version, the real difference between a free download and the $600 is the moral right to call the salesman and chew some ass.
Small fragile raindrop. Massive granite peak. Who will win?
It's a bit here and a bit there. "Do you expect to be able to read that in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? How?" If there's a lot of competition, you can expect the various vendors to crack each other's formats and offer means of importing information from competitors products. If you are facing a monopoly, about your only realistic hope is the black hats! "Always Blame Microsoft". Knee-jerk reaction. Then see what's going on. Turns out to be surprisingly effective. Has the side benefit of shifting the blame from "user error".
Actually SCO is on trial here. For its life. The court will decide whatever and ifever it decides, but the future of SCO will rest in the hands of its cusomers and suppliers. If they do not like SCO then SCO will cease to exist. "Are you now or have you ever been associated with SCO?"
I completely agree with you except that the easiest and cheapest means of getting a complete and accurate well-documented open format is the source code itself. If you can enforce accurate well-documented open formats, then Open Source wins in a walk. Here's something resembling documentation that shows how we think it works. If you need accurate, here's the source. Key differences are effort and timing. With closed source, the documentation of the format has to be done up front. With open source, the documentation can be done as needed, to exactly the depth needed. Open Source may be better and cheaper, but you'd come out ahead in the long run even if it were worse and more expensive! (I'm not at all sure that Open Source is even cheaper. You will do more because it's cost effective to do more;)
The danger is that Linux may, in fact, be the "Heathkit" of computing software, in a world where "Sony Walkman" is what customers want. Somehow I doubt that there would be any Sony Walkmans if it weren't for such as HeathKit and KnightKit. Similarly the ubiquitous automobile would not exist in its current form if it weren't for Hot Rodders, Drag Strips, etc.
The "thousand eyes" bit does work. Everybody can. It doesn't mean that anybody does, but if something funny seems to be going on, even I will take a look see. Most likely someone else will have found it first and done a better job of fixing it:-(
Multiple server platforms are hell to administrate.
Multiple modes of transportation are hell to administrate. Just think of all the differences between air travel, train travel, bus travel, truck travel, automobile travel, bicycling, and just plain walking.
When mediocrity is an aspiration, Microsoft is the best answer. Reboot and reinstall is easier that researching what the problem is.
Nah, keep em comming. One of two things happens. Microsoft straightens out their act. Open Source is perceived as being the new standard, and thus becomes the new standard.
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If your compiling everything from source, then it compleatly defeats the purpose of using an OS / distribution with "built in" binary package management.
Nope. That is long-term survival strategy for "unsupported" software.
Everything you need but don't particularly care about is done with package management.
Everything that is critical, you already have the compile/make machinery in place.
When the fellow mentions the "stability" trade off, that means stability of the API/ABI, libraries, etc... not how often it crashes or not.
Thanks.
Critical point. And nicely phrased.
For Enterprise software, the real issue is the stability of the software on top of the OS rather than just the OS itself.
Adoption of IPv6 will be much faster if porn sites switch exclusively to it. .sex, strictly IPv6, should do it.
A TLD of
Will reveal some ultra/top/mega sekret infos.. don't you think???
Nah, no big secret. Microsoft can't compete on a level playing field.
I pretty well agree with you, ..... but can't resist ...
The details give it authenticity.
Even made-up details to give shape and color to the telling.
The way to credibly discredit something is to attack its foundations. If you can prove the foundations false, that which builds on it cannot be trusted.
The question is what are the foundations and what is the gingerbread. The relevant standards are more like tales over a campfire than modern scholarly historians. That Judas quickly died at his own hand seems more like a foundation than exactly how he did it. Died quickly of unknown causes does not a good story make.
Both accounts write Judas out of the script with a very few lines.
Both accounts make a point that the Chief Priests reapropriate the money but have sufficient integrity to use it to buy a burial field for Judas.
Irrelevant details are required to tell the story, and can be expected to differ among different story tellers.
Yeah, now if only we could get them to read the -articles- too...
Nope. Sorry, only have time to scan a few of the comments.
Another stunt with multiple files.
First zip, no compression.
Second zip, zip the first zip.
Can be significantly smaller than compressing on the first zip.
Right on target. Regardless of any possible merits to SCO's case, they have established themselves as someone you do not want to do business with. Corporate suicide.
Granted, is should be horrible PR, but ... that doesn't seem to be stopping SCO.
buying a license for Microsoft Windows from Dell, and later Microsoft comes along, cancels their contract, and that makes your copy now illegal.
Is that Window Update?
Regardless of any possible merits to SCO's allegations, IBM is a pretty big giant to be behind. Methinks if any users have cause to be scared, it's SCO's users.
Thanks for sharing.
The world progresses. Slowly. Five steps forward that you can see. Four steps backwards that you mostly cannot see. (Read Rabelais to find out what a goose's neck was good for)
To oversimplify, there are two competitions. One as an individual within the species. One as your species against other species. If you want warfare, look at grasses versus trees. Oversimplifying, grasses raise cows to trample any tree seedlings that happen to get a start.
never is the true hacker afraid to ask how or why. that is the core essence of being elite.
The media is accustomed to being able to dispense or withold fame. A hacker is a threat to this "right" of the media.
is it really that important to delete the email client and other pieces?
Not if you really like viruses and whatever taking over your computer.
"somehow manage to make their computers crunch numbers and store data on Windows machines."
is not facetious.
Microsoft Windows isn't quite that bad.
I think people greatly underestimate the amount of effort, blood, sweat, and tears it would take to "switch" (so to speak) a government agency (let alone a whole government) to Linux.
There was a lot of effort, blood, sweat, and tears going from Second Generation mainframes (think 64k should be enough for anybody) to Third Generation mainframes (think MVS without the M and without the V).
One thing to realize is that the problems to be solved get trimmed and shifted based on our abilities. With a different technology that optimum point moves. A minimum cost attempt at doing exactly what you were doing before generally leads to dissatisfaction and cost overruns. Reevaluating and taking advantage of the new technology causes a few losses, but they weren't worth that much anyway. Overall it's a substantial gain.
Methinks the problem isn't whether to jump ship, it's when and how. Is Linux ready for the desktop doesn't refer to yesterday's desktops, it refers to tomorrows desktops.
somehow manage to make their computers crunch numbers and store data on Windows machines.
Wow. Whoopie. Surely we can do better than that!
Hmmm, think of it as insurance.
When and if things go wrong, your insurance company needs to be very well heeled. They (with coinsurers, it's a they) need to be able to pay off if the big one hits.
For the businesses to not get short-changed (when it needs it most), this needs to be profitable, almost lucrative for SuSE. One thing about IBM of old (and probably still), if they had to, they can move. They do have the resources. I've seen IBM move. Once long ago. A one-bit patch to IBM's COBOL compiler so it would run on the current MFT. (RECFM=FS changed from Fixed Standard to Fixed Spanned and sequential input stuck on same spot on disk). Next day an IBM field engineer was hanging tapes. Didn't look like he wanted to be there. (200 mile drive from Houston)
Has MS ever been successfully sued because a corporate network went down, or a server crashed?
Probably not, but.
The issue isn't who gets sued, but the assignment of blame.
Regardless of what "goodies" are in the bought version, the real difference between a free download and the $600 is the moral right to call the salesman and chew some ass.
The problem being there is no way to tell how old the person who checks the email address is
That's not my problem.
That's the spammer's problem.
If the spammer can't solve his problem that's again not my problem.
Small fragile raindrop.
Massive granite peak.
Who will win?
It's a bit here and a bit there.
"Do you expect to be able to read that in 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? How?"
If there's a lot of competition, you can expect the various vendors to crack each other's formats and offer means of importing information from competitors products. If you are facing a monopoly, about your only realistic hope is the black hats!
"Always Blame Microsoft". Knee-jerk reaction. Then see what's going on. Turns out to be surprisingly effective. Has the side benefit of shifting the blame from "user error".
Actually SCO is on trial here. For its life.
The court will decide whatever and ifever it decides, but the future of SCO will rest in the hands of its cusomers and suppliers. If they do not like SCO then SCO will cease to exist. "Are you now or have you ever been associated with SCO?"
I completely agree with you except that the easiest and cheapest means of getting a complete and accurate well-documented open format is the source code itself.
If you can enforce accurate well-documented open formats, then Open Source wins in a walk. Here's something resembling documentation that shows how we think it works. If you need accurate, here's the source.
Key differences are effort and timing. With closed source, the documentation of the format has to be done up front. With open source, the documentation can be done as needed, to exactly the depth needed.
Open Source may be better and cheaper, but you'd come out ahead in the long run even if it were worse and more expensive! (I'm not at all sure that Open Source is even cheaper. You will do more because it's cost effective to do more;)
The danger is that Linux may, in fact, be the "Heathkit" of computing software, in a world where "Sony Walkman" is what customers want.
:-(
Somehow I doubt that there would be any Sony Walkmans if it weren't for such as HeathKit and KnightKit. Similarly the ubiquitous automobile would not exist in its current form if it weren't for Hot Rodders, Drag Strips, etc.
The "thousand eyes" bit does work. Everybody can. It doesn't mean that anybody does, but if something funny seems to be going on, even I will take a look see. Most likely someone else will have found it first and done a better job of fixing it
Multiple server platforms are hell to administrate.
Multiple modes of transportation are hell to administrate.
Just think of all the differences between air travel, train travel, bus travel, truck travel, automobile travel, bicycling, and just plain walking.
When mediocrity is an aspiration, Microsoft is the best answer. Reboot and reinstall is easier that researching what the problem is.
Nah, keep em comming.
One of two things happens.
Microsoft straightens out their act.
Open Source is perceived as being the new standard, and thus becomes the new standard.