I heard a myth a few decades ago, that top-secret work in most fields is at least 50 years ahead of the current published state of the art. I can't begin to imagine what that would look like here.
What would that look like here? What sorts of things do you think are solidly plausible within the next 50 years of work in the field of nano-technology, and how would we detect them "in the field" today, if we were to look for them? How and where might we start to look for them, if we wanted to be likely to find something?
I know there were published discussions about silicon based listening and transmitting devices, bugs, that were smaller than grains of salt. I also know that there was great published fervor over single-pixel cameras, and, impo, I have seen a surprising gap in entangled non-return imaging. I expect "they" have working, single-photon, non-return-imaging cameras on grains of silicon too small for the eye to work with, so perhaps nano drone swarms used for data gathering/surveillance, where each drone is less than 0.1mm across?
When I look at robo-cat, and the alleged robo-squirrels or robo-insects, I think they have such swarms that can be ingested/injected/otherwise-implanted inside animals that don't realize they have become "listening posts". What would you do with a fully-functional jet-engine that was only a few microns across? I remember sub-cellular size bar-codes made by shooting proton based cylindrical holes in silicon, then lithographing layers of gold or other stuff to make the code, then removing the silicon substrate. Could we put markers into people to inform future medical reconstruction such as "non-invasive" 3d printing of organs in-vivo? How would we detect sub-cell-size tagging, or fabrication? I like the idea of nanotech-driven bio-energy harvesting. Why can't we turn trees into solar panels by hacking into their organic photosynthesis?
I would love to see a standalone application that runs through enough encryption that the ISP can't selectively speed-up or slow down, that uniformly randomly tracks speed to at least one main (not advertiser/spam) site from my computer through my ISP and makes the results public. I would love to see a non-profit make this happen.
Every single customer of every single ISP would want this software. It would allow hundreds of millions of people to keep someone who has a monopoly over them honest. It would "the next killer windows program".
I think there are hundreds of millions of customers in the US who would like to see this. I think it would put teeth and a few hundred million customers behind "net neutrality" support, and make it happen. It might lead to internet access as a public utility, instead of toll roads and monopolies on driveway - which is what we have now.
Netflix is Amazon, which is insanely huge architecture and throughput. I can't imagine Netflix being the slow one. I can't not imagine your ISP being the slow one. They do this crap all the time. It is crap like this that drives cord-cutting. If AT&T/Verizon/Sprint weren't so miserly in their approach to cell phones, they could stunningly vastly improve their income by making an equivalent service to compete in the land of monopolies. If half of all ISP's are effectively a monopoly, and if the telecom just went "same price for same alleged service" then majority of all ISP customers would move, because ISP's don't make their on-paper commits in real life and lots of people are angry about it. Telecoms can't find the will to do that. Truth, however, would be transformative. If the ISP was measured/shown to be the ass every time they cheat, and they can't not cheat, then you would see what happens.
So the large majority of content on my phone is illegal to search without a warrant And it gets there from the internet, and goes to secure places on the internet through radio waves
At what point does the use of a stingray without a warrant violate civil rights here?
MIT has "I track body motion by how it disturbs cell signals" technology. Look it up. They are talking about literally the ability to track everyone all the time without implanting a chip.
"It is all fun and games until" this system tracks mouth motion of two dirty chicago politicians - and that data can be used against them.
There is an infinite supply of cash in the form of student loans that schools have access to. They have increasing demand no matter how high they raise the price.
Quality is no longer a differentiating factor in the nature of the product - why not water it down to maximize revenue?
Oh - you want ethically competent students graduating college? Are you willing to pay for that??
A good fab will cost ~7 billion dollars. A few million dollars is not enough to staff basic operations for a year. Making chips from Intel spin-off ARM derived engineering isn't the same as making your own.
It is not remotely in-house development. It does not remotely remove the "built-in backdoor" problem. It does not remotely make Russia self-sustainable in terms of design, fabrication, production, distribution, or utilization.
At best this is very weak propaganda for people who know nothing about silicon.
There is not one creationism. To treat it as a monolith is false.
Old-earth creationists are given short shrift in this approach - an approach that is not about being anti-religious. Atheism is not the same thing as pro-Scientific.
Questions of the super-natural are, by definition, outside of the scope of proper science. Science is about the natural.
This is going to come out. Not if, just when. When it does - lots of local heads will roll. Politically, not literally.
The scope is very large. The level of participation is very large. The value of a leak is huge, so the first leaker wins the lottery - made for life. Do police get paid enough for that to make economic sense? nope.
The blowback for those who administer this outside of "required to cooperate" is huge. The only response of the leaders that gets them off the hook is to pass that buck upward. "The law made me do it" or "the feds made me do it" will save their careers, some.
Eventually it has to break. How is it handled at that point? Look at the NSA/Cisco/IBM related consequences of Snowden and imagine that at a local level.
That or those who rule by consent of the governed would want to educate and train the people (not serfs) under them so that there is sustainable rule of law AND good quality of freedom enjoyed in the land of the free, home of the brave, place where justice wears a blindfold. Too bad those way up in power are less interested in that quality - they are the ones with the greatest ability to support it.
I don't need Amazon. When I want to buy it - I go as far upstream as I can. No need to have more hands touching the product, adding actual if not communicated costs. Why isn't this a losing strategy for Amazon in this bullying?
Cisco can make lots of money selling hardware that moves different streams at different speeds.
I don't like it. I don't have to buy their products. I don't have to shop at places that use them for infrastructure. I don't have to support politicians that want to break net neutrality.
Cisco may see that sort of (blood) money in their future, but it isn't going to be coming out of my pocket. Maybe some other folks agree.
I think they are working to answer a good question, but not necessarily a high value question. Why does distance matter? Scientific inquiry is good, but the goal is return of value to humanity. If you worked on making computer parts that could transmit information faster and more reliably over a very short distance, somewhere between a meter and a millimeter, then you could plausibly improve the lives of most of the folks on the planet, or at least enable them to check slashdot or facebook more cheaply.
We don't have enough history to gauge what actually has happened over time, so we have to estimate. We approximate by finding big rocks or chemistry on earth, looking at craters on the moon, or this.
In all these cases we are using the small but frequent to infer the distribution of big but hugely problematic events. Our best answer the question about the likelihood of a killer impact is grossly changed if this tail is changed.
Think about it like floods. We ask how likely a 10,000 year flood is going to happen next year. We have ~100 years of rainfall data. We fit it to a distribution that is appropriate and then use those fit parameters to make a best guess. If our rain gauge was only measuring half the rain, we might under-estimate the actual risk by a factor of 10x or 20x.
There is good correlation between "killer impacts" and location of the sun in the galaxy (yes it moves around). We are starting to enter a higher risk region (transition to edge of arm) and perhaps the fundamental distribution is changing. In that case the history of craters on the moon or other might not be meaningful indicator of the near future.
Considering this I think good tracking is not a bad idea and should be thought out well and properly considered.
The refrigerant in most air conditioner systems boils at about 45 F. The ability to transfer heat to the outside world depends on the compressor power - not on what the boiling temperature is. Because of the temperature and chemical compatibility with systems that run R-134a, there are going to be a lot of hardware cost reductions, multi-source suppliers, and existing infrastructure to support that technology. That boiling point yields a better technology ecosystem.
You are upside down. If in 1776 there were to be ~300 million people living in the United States of America, but the population of the planet had not changed, it would require ~1/3 of the world population at the time to relocate.
Americans may have a poor reputation, but you are demonstrating that the non-Americans of the world prefer to jump to conclusions before they understand what another person meant.
China is demonstrating its desire to be the ruler of the world. It may succeed. There are enough idiots in charge in places where it counts - folks with money myoptia who can be bought or bullied - that a single dominant power over the world may arise. Every "king of the hill" is a tree planted by the last "king" - this is a pattern in humanity that is thousands of years old. This is a good lesson for new "kings" and old - nobody lives on the top of that hill forever.
Time and circumstance. If one of those things gets radiation poisoning or is killed by a meteor - that part of the gene pool is lost. Only if you can guarantee 100% survival do you pull a Noah and pack species in by twos.
All you must do to ensure this is guarantee that the generation before arrival is able to be impregnated with human children, and bear healthy young. Then you could have a repository of... ahem... genetic material from as many people as desired. In fact you could continue allowing insemination after planetfall - and effectively carry the genetic diversity of hundreds of thousands of unique donors, with a minimal crew.
Now about protecting the integrity of the.. genetic material. That might require sterner engineering.
In business, if a manager doesn't know their product, their market, the employees and the job - they are junk. In politics, they are elected.
I think there is a problem of scope. When the constitution and balance of power were created the "leader to citizen ratio" was likely hugely less adverse. Who in the 13 colonies would have imagined the number of people in the USA would equal 1/3rd of the planet's population. In 1776 there were 800 million living humans. Right now there are 350 million Americans. I don't think the government "balances" were built to work as well with that many people.
This has likely been going on for some time. The refreshing thought is that as soon as a different system becomes even a little more efficient, it will start outpacing the US in terms of real innovation, real economics, and great decisions by leaders. It is not a question of "if" something better is going to come along and show the un-bright folks what they are - it is only a question of when and how.
Maybe Sparkfun can ask Fluke for an event-based waiver in an open-letter. This gives Fluke the option to show themselves as a "good guy" in a very public way and not waste good tools or resources of a decent company.
It is an moment of humility to ask a question. It is a lifetime of shame not to ask.
Did you read your own article? Try page 113 where it says: "An EMP attack will certainly, immediately disable a portion of the 130 million cars and 90 million trucks in operation in the United States. Vehicles disabled while operating on the road can be expected to cause accidents. With modern traffic patterns, even a small number of disabled vehicles or accidents can cause debilitating traffic jams."
What about page 115 with "The ultimate result of EMP expoure could be triggered crashes that damage many more vehicles than are damaged by eMP, the consequent loss of life, and multiple injuries.
If there was WWIII then el gran fromage would be powerless and unprotected where he was the moment it hit. If there was the right, wrong time of solar storm, then el heffe might be getting an unintended suntan while waiting for combustion engine vehicles.
There might be a security issue.
And he doesn't own stock in Tesla, so he isn't going to be buying one.
I wonder how much the explosion in computing budget, something not precedented by any actual increase in opportunity in the market or the technology ecosystem, is driven by a desire to enable NSA data-collection, something that our "freedom loving" president aggressively supports.
The only recent "big" thing is big data, like Hadoop/Couch/non-RDBMS.
What is the DOE going to do with all that budget? They are going to buy big computers, and do thing with them. Is in investment in big data going to have a higher chance of payoffs for those folks who are spying on grandma? I don't see why not.
Are they spying on grandma? Of course they are. Of course they are. They can't not spy on grandma. When they say "they have protections" and "rule of law" they might, possibly, be talking about yesterday or today - but they have the data for tomorrow. They have no right and no substance when they talk about what might not be done to the data tomorrow. Like all weapons too horrible to use - it is only too horrible to use until it isn't.
The IRS would never target political parties, or religious groups, right? the NSA arguments come from the same source and report to the same powers.
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I heard a myth a few decades ago, that top-secret work in most fields is at least 50 years ahead of the current published state of the art. I can't begin to imagine what that would look like here.
What would that look like here? What sorts of things do you think are solidly plausible within the next 50 years of work in the field of nano-technology, and how would we detect them "in the field" today, if we were to look for them? How and where might we start to look for them, if we wanted to be likely to find something?
I know there were published discussions about silicon based listening and transmitting devices, bugs, that were smaller than grains of salt. I also know that there was great published fervor over single-pixel cameras, and, impo, I have seen a surprising gap in entangled non-return imaging. I expect "they" have working, single-photon, non-return-imaging cameras on grains of silicon too small for the eye to work with, so perhaps nano drone swarms used for data gathering/surveillance, where each drone is less than 0.1mm across?
When I look at robo-cat, and the alleged robo-squirrels or robo-insects, I think they have such swarms that can be ingested/injected/otherwise-implanted inside animals that don't realize they have become "listening posts". What would you do with a fully-functional jet-engine that was only a few microns across? I remember sub-cellular size bar-codes made by shooting proton based cylindrical holes in silicon, then lithographing layers of gold or other stuff to make the code, then removing the silicon substrate. Could we put markers into people to inform future medical reconstruction such as "non-invasive" 3d printing of organs in-vivo? How would we detect sub-cell-size tagging, or fabrication? I like the idea of nanotech-driven bio-energy harvesting. Why can't we turn trees into solar panels by hacking into their organic photosynthesis?
-EngrStudent
I would love to see a standalone application that runs through enough encryption that the ISP can't selectively speed-up or slow down, that uniformly randomly tracks speed to at least one main (not advertiser/spam) site from my computer through my ISP and makes the results public. I would love to see a non-profit make this happen.
Every single customer of every single ISP would want this software. It would allow hundreds of millions of people to keep someone who has a monopoly over them honest. It would "the next killer windows program".
I think there are hundreds of millions of customers in the US who would like to see this. I think it would put teeth and a few hundred million customers behind "net neutrality" support, and make it happen. It might lead to internet access as a public utility, instead of toll roads and monopolies on driveway - which is what we have now.
Netflix is Amazon, which is insanely huge architecture and throughput. I can't imagine Netflix being the slow one. I can't not imagine your ISP being the slow one. They do this crap all the time. It is crap like this that drives cord-cutting. If AT&T/Verizon/Sprint weren't so miserly in their approach to cell phones, they could stunningly vastly improve their income by making an equivalent service to compete in the land of monopolies. If half of all ISP's are effectively a monopoly, and if the telecom just went "same price for same alleged service" then majority of all ISP customers would move, because ISP's don't make their on-paper commits in real life and lots of people are angry about it. Telecoms can't find the will to do that. Truth, however, would be transformative. If the ISP was measured/shown to be the ass every time they cheat, and they can't not cheat, then you would see what happens.
So the large majority of content on my phone is illegal to search without a warrant
And it gets there from the internet, and goes to secure places on the internet through radio waves
At what point does the use of a stingray without a warrant violate civil rights here?
MIT has "I track body motion by how it disturbs cell signals" technology. Look it up.
They are talking about literally the ability to track everyone all the time without implanting a chip.
"It is all fun and games until" this system tracks mouth motion of two dirty chicago politicians - and that data can be used against them.
There is an infinite supply of cash in the form of student loans that schools have access to. They have increasing demand no matter how high they raise the price.
Quality is no longer a differentiating factor in the nature of the product - why not water it down to maximize revenue?
Oh - you want ethically competent students graduating college? Are you willing to pay for that??
(end cynical comment)
A good fab will cost ~7 billion dollars. A few million dollars is not enough to staff basic operations for a year.
Making chips from Intel spin-off ARM derived engineering isn't the same as making your own.
It is not remotely in-house development. It does not remotely remove the "built-in backdoor" problem. It does not remotely make Russia self-sustainable in terms of design, fabrication, production, distribution, or utilization.
At best this is very weak propaganda for people who know nothing about silicon.
There is not one creationism. To treat it as a monolith is false.
Old-earth creationists are given short shrift in this approach - an approach that is not about being anti-religious. Atheism is not the same thing as pro-Scientific.
Questions of the super-natural are, by definition, outside of the scope of proper science. Science is about the natural.
LabVIEW has C# backbone, very fast develop and deploy and seems acceptable (or even ideal) for web-based applications. You might consider it.
This is going to come out. Not if, just when.
When it does - lots of local heads will roll. Politically, not literally.
The scope is very large. The level of participation is very large. The value of a leak is huge, so the first leaker wins the lottery - made for life. Do police get paid enough for that to make economic sense? nope.
The blowback for those who administer this outside of "required to cooperate" is huge. The only response of the leaders that gets them off the hook is to pass that buck upward. "The law made me do it" or "the feds made me do it" will save their careers, some.
Eventually it has to break. How is it handled at that point?
Look at the NSA/Cisco/IBM related consequences of Snowden and imagine that at a local level.
That or those who rule by consent of the governed would want to educate and train the people (not serfs) under them so that there is sustainable rule of law AND good quality of freedom enjoyed in the land of the free, home of the brave, place where justice wears a blindfold. Too bad those way up in power are less interested in that quality - they are the ones with the greatest ability to support it.
Use of a name like that has risk. Doesn't comcast risk a class-action suit by those whose names were falsely named?
I don't need Amazon. When I want to buy it - I go as far upstream as I can.
No need to have more hands touching the product, adding actual if not communicated costs.
Why isn't this a losing strategy for Amazon in this bullying?
Cisco can make lots of money selling hardware that moves different streams at different speeds.
I don't like it. I don't have to buy their products. I don't have to shop at places that use them for infrastructure. I don't have to support politicians that want to break net neutrality.
Cisco may see that sort of (blood) money in their future, but it isn't going to be coming out of my pocket. Maybe some other folks agree.
I think they are working to answer a good question, but not necessarily a high value question. Why does distance matter? Scientific inquiry is good, but the goal is return of value to humanity. If you worked on making computer parts that could transmit information faster and more reliably over a very short distance, somewhere between a meter and a millimeter, then you could plausibly improve the lives of most of the folks on the planet, or at least enable them to check slashdot or facebook more cheaply.
Our leadership has no vision for anything more than lining their pockets. Long term success of the nation - nah.
Let the people learn to speak chinese ... or russian.
Excellent and well articulated point. Thank you.
We don't have enough history to gauge what actually has happened over time, so we have to estimate.
We approximate by finding big rocks or chemistry on earth, looking at craters on the moon, or this.
In all these cases we are using the small but frequent to infer the distribution of big but hugely problematic events. Our best answer the question about the likelihood of a killer impact is grossly changed if this tail is changed.
Think about it like floods. We ask how likely a 10,000 year flood is going to happen next year. We have ~100 years of rainfall data. We fit it to a distribution that is appropriate and then use those fit parameters to make a best guess. If our rain gauge was only measuring half the rain, we might under-estimate the actual risk by a factor of 10x or 20x.
There is good correlation between "killer impacts" and location of the sun in the galaxy (yes it moves around). We are starting to enter a higher risk region (transition to edge of arm) and perhaps the fundamental distribution is changing. In that case the history of craters on the moon or other might not be meaningful indicator of the near future.
Considering this I think good tracking is not a bad idea and should be thought out well and properly considered.
The refrigerant in most air conditioner systems boils at about 45 F. The ability to transfer heat to the outside world depends on the compressor power - not on what the boiling temperature is. Because of the temperature and chemical compatibility with systems that run R-134a, there are going to be a lot of hardware cost reductions, multi-source suppliers, and existing infrastructure to support that technology. That boiling point yields a better technology ecosystem.
You are upside down. If in 1776 there were to be ~300 million people living in the United States of America, but the population of the planet had not changed, it would require ~1/3 of the world population at the time to relocate.
Americans may have a poor reputation, but you are demonstrating that the non-Americans of the world prefer to jump to conclusions before they understand what another person meant.
China is demonstrating its desire to be the ruler of the world. It may succeed. There are enough idiots in charge in places where it counts - folks with money myoptia who can be bought or bullied - that a single dominant power over the world may arise. Every "king of the hill" is a tree planted by the last "king" - this is a pattern in humanity that is thousands of years old. This is a good lesson for new "kings" and old - nobody lives on the top of that hill forever.
Time and circumstance. If one of those things gets radiation poisoning or is killed by a meteor - that part of the gene pool is lost. Only if you can guarantee 100% survival do you pull a Noah and pack species in by twos.
All you must do to ensure this is guarantee that the generation before arrival is able to be impregnated with human children, and bear healthy young. Then you could have a repository of ... ahem ... genetic material from as many people as desired. In fact you could continue allowing insemination after planetfall - and effectively carry the genetic diversity of hundreds of thousands of unique donors, with a minimal crew.
Now about protecting the integrity of the .. genetic material. That might require sterner engineering.
In business, if a manager doesn't know their product, their market, the employees and the job - they are junk.
In politics, they are elected.
I think there is a problem of scope. When the constitution and balance of power were created the "leader to citizen ratio" was likely hugely less adverse. Who in the 13 colonies would have imagined the number of people in the USA would equal 1/3rd of the planet's population. In 1776 there were 800 million living humans. Right now there are 350 million Americans. I don't think the government "balances" were built to work as well with that many people.
This has likely been going on for some time. The refreshing thought is that as soon as a different system becomes even a little more efficient, it will start outpacing the US in terms of real innovation, real economics, and great decisions by leaders. It is not a question of "if" something better is going to come along and show the un-bright folks what they are - it is only a question of when and how.
Maybe Sparkfun can ask Fluke for an event-based waiver in an open-letter. This gives Fluke the option to show themselves as a "good guy" in a very public way and not waste good tools or resources of a decent company.
It is an moment of humility to ask a question.
It is a lifetime of shame not to ask.
Did you read your own article? Try page 113 where it says:
"An EMP attack will certainly, immediately disable a portion of the 130 million cars and 90 million trucks in operation in the United States. Vehicles disabled while operating on the road can be expected to cause accidents. With modern traffic patterns, even a small number of disabled vehicles or accidents can cause debilitating traffic jams."
What about page 115 with "The ultimate result of EMP expoure could be triggered crashes that damage many more vehicles than are damaged by eMP, the consequent loss of life, and multiple injuries.
EMP has little to know impact on vehicles.
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Stop, and I repeat STOP! getting you information form survivalist shows and movies. It's almost always wrong.
If there was WWIII then el gran fromage would be powerless and unprotected where he was the moment it hit.
If there was the right, wrong time of solar storm, then el heffe might be getting an unintended suntan while waiting for combustion engine vehicles.
There might be a security issue.
And he doesn't own stock in Tesla, so he isn't going to be buying one.
I wonder how much the explosion in computing budget, something not precedented by any actual increase in opportunity in the market or the technology ecosystem, is driven by a desire to enable NSA data-collection, something that our "freedom loving" president aggressively supports.
The only recent "big" thing is big data, like Hadoop/Couch/non-RDBMS.
What is the DOE going to do with all that budget? They are going to buy big computers, and do thing with them.
Is in investment in big data going to have a higher chance of payoffs for those folks who are spying on grandma? I don't see why not.
Are they spying on grandma? Of course they are. Of course they are. They can't not spy on grandma. When they say "they have protections" and "rule of law" they might, possibly, be talking about yesterday or today - but they have the data for tomorrow. They have no right and no substance when they talk about what might not be done to the data tomorrow. Like all weapons too horrible to use - it is only too horrible to use until it isn't.
The IRS would never target political parties, or religious groups, right? the NSA arguments come from the same source and report to the same powers.