The governments of English-language countries can make money available for people, which translate the German Wikipedia into English. Or why the German government should spend money to translate the sides into a non-office language? Should it let write then not rather directly on Chinese - that understand substantially more people?
No. Gravenreuth (the lawyer) has never worked for M$ AFAIK. But law suits like this one are very common in germany:-(
An example: we have here a small company Symicron GmbH (point at the link "Unsere Produkte"), which has a trademark for "explorer". The lawyer of that company is Gravenreuth, and there have been a couple of suits against several individuals and companies, mostly because they made links on their web sites to software like ftp explorer or distributed it somehow. (Fortunately Gravenreuth has lost most of these cases.)
M$ Germany has an agreement with Symicron about using "explorer" for their windows exploder, and that is the only reason why they didn't meet Gravenreuth at the court.
Gravenreuth is really a very ugly person and has no friends, but that doesn't mean he works for M$:-)
Does europe really stand for BTX (=Bildschirmtext)?
On the other hand: with Bildschirmtext and minitel
europe had a kind of primitive web years before
the rest of the world had even the slightest idea
about WWW.
And as I've learned, WWW, its underlying protocols
and server/client programs were invented at CERN,
which is somehow closely related to europe.
BTW: the site bildschirmtext.bundespost.de points
to something that looks like "those were the
days". Not a good example. Perhaps you have not
heard the news that the Bundespost isn't existing
anymore? (Perhaps you have left germany 10 years
ago? They say that news in america are a little
bit USA-centric...;-)
>>> Beeing too bureaucratic to be inventive,
>> It's a fact that only one person can invent
>> something for the first time... do you know
>> who invented automobiles?
> Yeah, the car is a great invention from the
> 19th century. And at this time the old world
> was at the bleeding edge of innovation
And as we all know, automobiles seem still to be
interesting for research. And AFAIK research
e.g. on fuel saving car engines is done in europe,
while americans often seem not to have an idea
why one should do that. (So if we are talking
about automobiles...)
> While ahead at that time there are decent
> signs that we have fallen behind.
Tell us about these signs. software development?
Physics? Biology? Chemistry?
Or is it because the first man on the moon was an
american?
> Very often DER SPIEGEL _doesn't_ offer links
> to web sites which are the subject of their
> stories.
hm. If you think so. But yes, that's surely a
crime, and criminals surely should not own relics
like the trojan room coffee machine.
> Now since they bought that old
> coffee machine as an advertising vehicle to
> prove their geekness,
Perhaps they didn't buy it as a "proof of their
geekness"? Probably I'm not an exceptional geek,
but I wouldn't be unhappy about having the machine
in my own kitchen.
What's the problem that this thing has been bought
by a german magazine? Everyone could have bought
it. Imagine that microsoft would have done it.
Would it be better then, because MS is a company
from the "new world", where everything is
unquestionable better?
> Sorry to say that german is my mother tongue
> because I'm german...
Do you still live in germany?
>>> "Guten Tag", Zeit zum aufwachen ihr Schnarcher
>> Guten Morgen mein Freund, in Deutschland stehen
>> die Menschen 6 bis 9 Stunden früher auf als in
>> Amerika;-)
> Standing up 6 to 9 hours earlier doesn't help
> to regain the lead when you are years behind
> (spirit wise).
Not everyone wants to (re)gain the kind of leadership USA has. If you feel comfortable with
that leadership, go there (if you are not already
there), you will have friends there.
Or in plain german: Immer dieses langweilige, substanzlose Gemecker. Immer Nörgeln und dann weggehen. Das ist in der Tat eine deutsche Tugend.
> Beeing too bureaucratic to be inventive,
It's a fact that only one person can invent
something for the first time... do you know who
invented automobiles?
> Annotation: If you following the online
> site of DER SPIEGEL [spiegel.de], you'll soon
> find out that they are notorious sinners against
> the spirit of the Web by not offering links to
> those sites, which are the current subjects
> of their stories. Why? Fear to lose eyeballs
> to the endless wilderness of the Web? Ignorance?
Normally, Spiegel Online offers links to related
sites below their articles. They also offer links
to older articles published by Spiegel Online, and
if you had followed those links, you would have
found a link to the trojan room cam.
Perhaps your problem is that you don't understand
german? Sorry, Der Spiegel is a german magazine,
intended for german readers. I don't complain that
/. is in english only even I'm from germany. In
case of problems with an english text I take a
look into my dictionary rather than blame the
author for writing in a language that I don't
understand.
> "Guten Tag", Zeit zum aufwachen ihr Schnarcher
Guten Morgen mein Freund, in Deutschland stehen
die Menschen 6 bis 9 Stunden früher auf als in
Amerika;-)
(Sorry. "Good morning my friend, in germany people
rise up 6 to 9 hours earlier than in america;-)")
Sie wissen doch, daß Deutsche nie Witze machen ;-)
The governments of English-language countries can make money available for people, which translate the German Wikipedia into English. Or why the German government should spend money to translate the sides into a non-office language? Should it let write then not rather directly on Chinese - that understand substantially more people?
How is GPL related to some dead nazis?
gruss, kai-)
GPL ist nicht für gefingerpoken und mittengraben.
Gruß, Kai-)
No, bundestux.de went online before.
no one can say Gravenreuth is a moron...
No. Gravenreuth (the lawyer) has never worked for M$ AFAIK. But law suits like this one are very common in germany :-(
An example: we have here a small company Symicron GmbH (point at the link "Unsere Produkte"), which has a trademark for "explorer". The lawyer of that company is Gravenreuth, and there have been a couple of suits against several individuals and companies, mostly because they made links on their web sites to software like ftp explorer or distributed it somehow. (Fortunately Gravenreuth has lost most of these cases.)
M$ Germany has an agreement with Symicron about using "explorer" for their windows exploder, and that is the only reason why they didn't meet Gravenreuth at the court.
Gravenreuth is really a very ugly person and has no friends, but that doesn't mean he works for M$ :-)
Does europe really stand for BTX (=Bildschirmtext)?
;-)
On the other hand: with Bildschirmtext and minitel
europe had a kind of primitive web years before
the rest of the world had even the slightest idea
about WWW.
And as I've learned, WWW, its underlying protocols
and server/client programs were invented at CERN,
which is somehow closely related to europe.
BTW: the site bildschirmtext.bundespost.de points
to something that looks like "those were the
days". Not a good example. Perhaps you have not
heard the news that the Bundespost isn't existing
anymore? (Perhaps you have left germany 10 years
ago? They say that news in america are a little
bit USA-centric...
Again, what's the problem with europe?
yours, Dr. Hassel
>>> Beeing too bureaucratic to be inventive,
;-)
:-)
>> It's a fact that only one person can invent
>> something for the first time... do you know
>> who invented automobiles?
> Yeah, the car is a great invention from the
> 19th century. And at this time the old world
> was at the bleeding edge of innovation
And as we all know, automobiles seem still to be
interesting for research. And AFAIK research
e.g. on fuel saving car engines is done in europe,
while americans often seem not to have an idea
why one should do that. (So if we are talking
about automobiles...)
> While ahead at that time there are decent
> signs that we have fallen behind.
Tell us about these signs. software development?
Physics? Biology? Chemistry?
Or is it because the first man on the moon was an
american?
> Very often DER SPIEGEL _doesn't_ offer links
> to web sites which are the subject of their
> stories.
hm. If you think so. But yes, that's surely a
crime, and criminals surely should not own relics
like the trojan room coffee machine.
> Now since they bought that old
> coffee machine as an advertising vehicle to
> prove their geekness,
Perhaps they didn't buy it as a "proof of their
geekness"? Probably I'm not an exceptional geek,
but I wouldn't be unhappy about having the machine
in my own kitchen.
What's the problem that this thing has been bought
by a german magazine? Everyone could have bought
it. Imagine that microsoft would have done it.
Would it be better then, because MS is a company
from the "new world", where everything is
unquestionable better?
> Sorry to say that german is my mother tongue
> because I'm german...
Do you still live in germany?
>>> "Guten Tag", Zeit zum aufwachen ihr Schnarcher
>> Guten Morgen mein Freund, in Deutschland stehen
>> die Menschen 6 bis 9 Stunden früher auf als in
>> Amerika
> Standing up 6 to 9 hours earlier doesn't help
> to regain the lead when you are years behind
> (spirit wise).
Not everyone wants to (re)gain the kind of leadership USA has. If you feel comfortable with
that leadership, go there (if you are not already
there), you will have friends there.
Or in plain german: Immer dieses langweilige, substanzlose Gemecker. Immer Nörgeln und dann weggehen. Das ist in der Tat eine deutsche Tugend.
Again: where is europe years behind?
yours, Dr. Hassel
> Beeing too bureaucratic to be inventive,
;-)
;-)")
It's a fact that only one person can invent
something for the first time... do you know who
invented automobiles?
> Annotation: If you following the online
> site of DER SPIEGEL [spiegel.de], you'll soon
> find out that they are notorious sinners against
> the spirit of the Web by not offering links to
> those sites, which are the current subjects
> of their stories. Why? Fear to lose eyeballs
> to the endless wilderness of the Web? Ignorance?
Normally, Spiegel Online offers links to related
sites below their articles. They also offer links
to older articles published by Spiegel Online, and
if you had followed those links, you would have
found a link to the trojan room cam.
Perhaps your problem is that you don't understand
german? Sorry, Der Spiegel is a german magazine,
intended for german readers. I don't complain that
/. is in english only even I'm from germany. In
case of problems with an english text I take a
look into my dictionary rather than blame the
author for writing in a language that I don't
understand.
> "Guten Tag", Zeit zum aufwachen ihr Schnarcher
Guten Morgen mein Freund, in Deutschland stehen
die Menschen 6 bis 9 Stunden früher auf als in
Amerika
(Sorry. "Good morning my friend, in germany people
rise up 6 to 9 hours earlier than in america
Frohe Weihnachten!