What company does not try and lock down their appliances? Yes, there is Android. A/V enthusiasts complain about their DVD/Blu-ray players being locked down and hard to hack. Gamers complain about their consoles being hard to hack.
If you want to do stuff in OS X, you know "the wonder of tinkering with an Apple ][", just give yourself root access. Play all you want.
Everyone wants to do what they want to do, and they always have some reason for it. Not saying they are right or wrong, I like to play around with stuff, too. I guess you can hack a Zune since no one complains about that.
Think about this seriously. If you invented some device that made you millions/billions of $s, and was largely based on the software it could run, would you just let anyone do whatever they wanted to it? After the 1st unchecked app downloaded all of the users info to my computer and I start abusing that info, how happy are your customers going to be with you. And how many more sales are you going to get. There goes your revenue. If the answer is "I just want to play around", well, so do hackers.
To be fair, I don't think Apple doesn't do most of their hardware internally, kind of like Dell. Unless you're talking about hardware design as opposed to manufacturing- kind of unclear.
"ndroid has no such limit..... Apple's OS doesn't have such a limit because its already extremely limited in that it can't multitask third party software."
Well, as you are also screaming things, a citation about the Apple OS limit would be nice. Also, are you stating Apple does have a limit, or it doesn't have a limit. Focus, grasshopper.
For those who are still into the hobby, or even do these types of things for some money, they just want to futz with everything. I, like you, also used to futz with everything. Then things like a job, working on a masters degree, having a family, etc. took up a bunch of that spare time. My wife still has a Windows machine, so I have to fix something every once in a while, which annoys me.
My biggest annoyance with my Macbook Pro was when she spilled a glass of soda on it. When we bought the wife a laptop, I made her get the super-warranty, which includes one instance of spilling liquid into it!
As for user experience, I was a bit irked I had to upgrade iWork, iLife, & Parallels to fully work with Snow Panther Including Snow Panther, it came to $200, which has lasted me for rougly 3 years. How much is Windows 7 and the latest version of Office? Sure Linux and OO is free, but try and get those to work the special/platform-locked programs needed in academia and some industries.
That's true, Microsoft has shown everyone that a good, open architecture is not very vulnerable to viruses.
As for Symbian and Android, I'll just sit back and watch for a while. (No, I don't have an iPhone. I don't even have a smart phone. It's a phone; I want to make phone calls, period. Of course I'm ones of those heathen types that actually buy physical books)
Maybe some of us grew up in the NE and like snow? Or we like the Boston to D.C. corridor? Or zero interest in living in Texas? No thank you, I'll take some forests over desert any day. (I'm assuming you live in Dallas since you mentioned it). I can agree with Detroit since that has completely fell apart recently. Now if you want some year-round warmth, there is also California. Though that can be ridiculously expensive.
To each his own. Besides, if we run out of salt, we don't need to go to the store. We can just go scrap the road!:)
I am not be condicending. It seems all countries' rights are being eroded quickly, but Australia seems to be going quicker than most. As a US citizen, I'm thinking of just buying some cheap woodland and building a cabin. Eating squirrels and cooking over a fire would stink, but at least no one would come to put me in prison for something I didn't even know I did.
(Hi NSA/Echelon! Hope you are having a nice day. I once threw a paper cup out my car window.)
Anti-competitive? Yes. Should it be illegal. Depends.
The US courts have decided that anti-competitive practices in a monopoly situation are illegal (obviously not Apple). But then cable companies also managed to skirt this by invokding satellite. Also, there is the decision the US courts also made to protect innovation. Otherwise, a person/company who brings a new product to market would also be anti-competitive due to the legal restrictions of no one else being allowed to make that product.
As for Apple's case- I don't know. Ignoring the legal aspect, on one side you can get a cheaper box. On the other side you can get a more expensive box.
I've never made anything great, so I can't say. But if I did, I would like to protect it. I know that/. is big on the free software thing (which is great), but you must remember that Apple also deals with some pricey hardware, also. I don't think programmers would just give their software away if they also had to give out, say, $400 dollars of hardware at the same time.
This is not a comprehensive argument, just something things that I thought of.
So when someone puts together a standard PC into a strange case, it is awesome, yet when it is a Mac it gets a yawn?
I personally think it's neat. Just wish I had enough time to screw around with stuff like this (I spend enough time raking up the dang leaves in my yard. Well using the leaf blower, but you get the point).
Except in religions you do not have to accept anything. You do not have to go, you do not have to pay. I personally believe in a God- I do not push it on anyone, I normally stay out of religious debates.
Here, saying Scientology is a religion is pretty dumb. To "ascend" you need to spend thousands of dollars to reach new levels of "enlightenment". In normal religions you do not need to give money, though individual churches may pressure you.
Also, please don't call people who believe in a religion "brainless". I know there is no scientific proof of a God, but I still believe in one. As long as I try to live a good life, what is the harm in that? Besides, just because something has not been proven yet does not mean it will not be proven in the future. There was a point when the sun revolved around the earth, and space was filled with 'ether'.
While you are at it, prove that a black hole is a singularity. Or prove that relativity causes time frames to shift (no, you can not use the space shuttle or satellites for slight differences in timing due to all the external influences that were not specifically isolated). Prove how the universe was created.
I'm just saying there is no reason to bash people who know what they are embracing as morons. If there is no God, then what have I lost by being a nice and decent guy all my life? It gives me and my family a personal level of comfort that is not rational, but allows us to get through life's rough moments. If it's not real, does it bother you that it makes me happy imagining my grandpa with his old hounddog up in the sky? I prefer that image rather than rotting bones in the ground, even if I'm wrong.
I've never bought an Apple monitor, so like I said, I have no idea about this. I was just thowing out a random idea. But thanks, next time I'm up for a monitor I'll take a look at Dell.
You mean it is a jumble if you carry around 4 different Mac laptops at the same time? Each one that he lists is for adapting for the VGA projector. I got one for $10 (DVI-VGA). Wow, that's just crazy. OK, to be honest I did buy a $5 DVI-HDMI adapter so I could play games on my HD TV, though I wouldn't call that a critical flaw.
All get back to you when I have enough money to buy another 3 laptops. Some arguments are just a bit silly.
Not trying to be mean, but buy a better cable next time. Even though cheap, monoprice seems to have very nice cables (my dad and I use a bunch, including a 25 foot HDMI from my laptop to the TV). Yes, maybe lucky. Who knows?
Just as long as it's not the cover. Ever see that warning at the front saying something like "If this book doesn't have a cover it has been reported as destroyed and is being sold illegally"?
As for pages in the book, nope. If you buy it new you can take it back for a replacement, though, since it is defective. Used, tough luck, should have checked first.
Probably will need a fusion plant to power and cool the thing. But still sounds awesome. They briefly mention data/memory flow issues, but don't really address it. It is getting to the point where data flow will be as important as processing power, especially as you have escalating processors. You can run as many operations as you want, but if it can't be delivered somewhere useful, then they are wasted. I am also very interested on how the overhead will be managed when this many processors are involved. Multi-processors are not quite 2x (or 4x, 8x, etc) than just one processor due overhead, and even a really specialized scaled OS & I/O system won't be able to overcome this many processors.
Now for some fun: It could probably power real time rendering of a Beowulf cluster of Natalie Portmans in grits while making us submit "All Our Base" to our new "Insert-Here Overlords". (Did I miss any?)
What company does not try and lock down their appliances? Yes, there is Android. A/V enthusiasts complain about their DVD/Blu-ray players being locked down and hard to hack. Gamers complain about their consoles being hard to hack.
If you want to do stuff in OS X, you know "the wonder of tinkering with an Apple ][", just give yourself root access. Play all you want.
Everyone wants to do what they want to do, and they always have some reason for it. Not saying they are right or wrong, I like to play around with stuff, too. I guess you can hack a Zune since no one complains about that.
Think about this seriously. If you invented some device that made you millions/billions of $s, and was largely based on the software it could run, would you just let anyone do whatever they wanted to it? After the 1st unchecked app downloaded all of the users info to my computer and I start abusing that info, how happy are your customers going to be with you. And how many more sales are you going to get. There goes your revenue. If the answer is "I just want to play around", well, so do hackers.
Well, that answered nothing. But I do thank you for complimenting me on my lack of reading and comprehension skills.
To be fair, I don't think Apple doesn't do most of their hardware internally, kind of like Dell. Unless you're talking about hardware design as opposed to manufacturing- kind of unclear.
"ndroid has no such limit. .... Apple's OS doesn't have such a limit because its already extremely limited in that it can't multitask third party software."
Well, as you are also screaming things, a citation about the Apple OS limit would be nice.
Also, are you stating Apple does have a limit, or it doesn't have a limit. Focus, grasshopper.
For those who are still into the hobby, or even do these types of things for some money, they just want to futz with everything. I, like you, also used to futz with everything. Then things like a job, working on a masters degree, having a family, etc. took up a bunch of that spare time. My wife still has a Windows machine, so I have to fix something every once in a while, which annoys me.
My biggest annoyance with my Macbook Pro was when she spilled a glass of soda on it. When we bought the wife a laptop, I made her get the super-warranty, which includes one instance of spilling liquid into it!
As for user experience, I was a bit irked I had to upgrade iWork, iLife, & Parallels to fully work with Snow Panther Including Snow Panther, it came to $200, which has lasted me for rougly 3 years. How much is Windows 7 and the latest version of Office? Sure Linux and OO is free, but try and get those to work the special/platform-locked programs needed in academia and some industries.
That's true, Microsoft has shown everyone that a good, open architecture is not very vulnerable to viruses.
As for Symbian and Android, I'll just sit back and watch for a while. (No, I don't have an iPhone. I don't even have a smart phone. It's a phone; I want to make phone calls, period. Of course I'm ones of those heathen types that actually buy physical books)
"Small, no microwave, closed source Apple. Lame"
Slightly adapted.
Maybe some of us grew up in the NE and like snow? Or we like the Boston to D.C. corridor? Or zero interest in living in Texas? No thank you, I'll take some forests over desert any day. (I'm assuming you live in Dallas since you mentioned it). I can agree with Detroit since that has completely fell apart recently. Now if you want some year-round warmth, there is also California. Though that can be ridiculously expensive.
To each his own. Besides, if we run out of salt, we don't need to go to the store. We can just go scrap the road! :)
Wow. That's just scary stuff, like the Salem Witch trials back in the day in the States.
You're just trying to rob all the fun our of this! Ha!
I am not be condicending. It seems all countries' rights are being eroded quickly, but Australia seems to be going quicker than most. As a US citizen, I'm thinking of just buying some cheap woodland and building a cabin. Eating squirrels and cooking over a fire would stink, but at least no one would come to put me in prison for something I didn't even know I did.
(Hi NSA/Echelon! Hope you are having a nice day. I once threw a paper cup out my car window.)
I'm guessing "smartphone" means some type of phone. Can the DS do phone calls? I honestly do not know.
Interesting how MS and Apple cannot enforce their rules, but your chosen rules can be enforced.
Just sayin'
Anti-competitive? Yes.
Should it be illegal. Depends.
The US courts have decided that anti-competitive practices in a monopoly situation are illegal (obviously not Apple). But then cable companies also managed to skirt this by invokding satellite. Also, there is the decision the US courts also made to protect innovation. Otherwise, a person/company who brings a new product to market would also be anti-competitive due to the legal restrictions of no one else being allowed to make that product.
As for Apple's case- I don't know. Ignoring the legal aspect, on one side you can get a cheaper box. On the other side you can get a more expensive box.
I've never made anything great, so I can't say. But if I did, I would like to protect it. I know that /. is big on the free software thing (which is great), but you must remember that Apple also deals with some pricey hardware, also. I don't think programmers would just give their software away if they also had to give out, say, $400 dollars of hardware at the same time.
This is not a comprehensive argument, just something things that I thought of.
I just wanted to say that that was an excellent post, in my opinion.
Not like this hasn't happened before...
So when someone puts together a standard PC into a strange case, it is awesome, yet when it is a Mac it gets a yawn?
I personally think it's neat. Just wish I had enough time to screw around with stuff like this (I spend enough time raking up the dang leaves in my yard. Well using the leaf blower, but you get the point).
Except in religions you do not have to accept anything. You do not have to go, you do not have to pay. I personally believe in a God- I do not push it on anyone, I normally stay out of religious debates.
Here, saying Scientology is a religion is pretty dumb. To "ascend" you need to spend thousands of dollars to reach new levels of "enlightenment". In normal religions you do not need to give money, though individual churches may pressure you.
Also, please don't call people who believe in a religion "brainless". I know there is no scientific proof of a God, but I still believe in one. As long as I try to live a good life, what is the harm in that? Besides, just because something has not been proven yet does not mean it will not be proven in the future. There was a point when the sun revolved around the earth, and space was filled with 'ether'.
While you are at it, prove that a black hole is a singularity. Or prove that relativity causes time frames to shift (no, you can not use the space shuttle or satellites for slight differences in timing due to all the external influences that were not specifically isolated). Prove how the universe was created.
I'm just saying there is no reason to bash people who know what they are embracing as morons. If there is no God, then what have I lost by being a nice and decent guy all my life? It gives me and my family a personal level of comfort that is not rational, but allows us to get through life's rough moments. If it's not real, does it bother you that it makes me happy imagining my grandpa with his old hounddog up in the sky? I prefer that image rather than rotting bones in the ground, even if I'm wrong.
I've never bought an Apple monitor, so like I said, I have no idea about this. I was just thowing out a random idea. But thanks, next time I'm up for a monitor I'll take a look at Dell.
I likey! I'm sad I didn't think of this myself.
You mean it is a jumble if you carry around 4 different Mac laptops at the same time? Each one that he lists is for adapting for the VGA projector. I got one for $10 (DVI-VGA). Wow, that's just crazy. OK, to be honest I did buy a $5 DVI-HDMI adapter so I could play games on my HD TV, though I wouldn't call that a critical flaw.
All get back to you when I have enough money to buy another 3 laptops. Some arguments are just a bit silly.
Not trying to be mean, but buy a better cable next time. Even though cheap, monoprice seems to have very nice cables (my dad and I use a bunch, including a 25 foot HDMI from my laptop to the TV). Yes, maybe lucky. Who knows?
Just wondering- have you tried out OS X? I especially like Office Mac better then the Windows versions, but that's just my preference/opinion.
I also blew off Apple from around '98 until my wife bought me a Macbook Pro for Christmas in 2006.
Just as long as it's not the cover. Ever see that warning at the front saying something like "If this book doesn't have a cover it has been reported as destroyed and is being sold illegally"?
As for pages in the book, nope. If you buy it new you can take it back for a replacement, though, since it is defective. Used, tough luck, should have checked first.
Probably will need a fusion plant to power and cool the thing. But still sounds awesome. They briefly mention data/memory flow issues, but don't really address it. It is getting to the point where data flow will be as important as processing power, especially as you have escalating processors. You can run as many operations as you want, but if it can't be delivered somewhere useful, then they are wasted. I am also very interested on how the overhead will be managed when this many processors are involved. Multi-processors are not quite 2x (or 4x, 8x, etc) than just one processor due overhead, and even a really specialized scaled OS & I/O system won't be able to overcome this many processors.
Now for some fun:
It could probably power real time rendering of a Beowulf cluster of Natalie Portmans in grits while making us submit "All Our Base" to our new "Insert-Here Overlords". (Did I miss any?)