No, I didn't. In fact I was one of the people that replied him and called him on his bullshit. I thought linking to his post from this one would serve the greater good.
To build a ipad in the USA, you will be paying $18-37 an hour. Your factory will be required to meat all OSHA and EPA standards. The manufacture cost of a single iPad will jump to at least $1100.00 add a 40% markup and now you have a 16gig ipad base model selling for $1599.00
Not buying it. AMD makes microprocessors in Germany, a country with as strict or stricter labor laws and regulations, and the result is certainly not chips that cost twice as much.
Or is your argument that Americans are that much less competent at everything compared to other Western nations?
Also I wonder whether phones will allow you to just make a data dump of its storage just by connecting it to USB. My phone just charges when connected, doesn't go into USB drive mode (which afaik still doesn't allow access to the complete storage even, like contacts and so), though I have debug mode on so it does accept certain commands (including installing of apps, and running that app). But if that goes as far as allowing you to do a data dump, I really don't know. And most people will not have debug mode enabled to begin with.
This is where the rooted kernel and recovery comes in. The kernel can be configured so that debug mode is turned on and root shell via ABD is enabled by default before the kernel even boots android. All that is needed is a few lines in one config file in the kernels initramfs. This means by flashing the kernel and custom recovery you can get root access to the device without ever even touching the data partitions.
As for doing a dump purely over USB, I'm not so sure if that's possible. I'm sure there is a way, but it's above my pay grade. What I would typically do is do the dump to an external SDCard (obviously the feds wouldn't use the suspect's card) and then pull that file to the computer using the `ADB pull` command. If the phone doesn't support an external SD, some other methods might have to be employed. You could do `adb pull / c:\suspectsphone` and it would pull the entire file system, as mounted to the local directory on the hard drive.
Keep in mind that the FBI booting the phone up and trying to unlock it are hardly using a clean-room method. That would be the equivalent of booting a PC up on the original hard drive and trying to guess the password. As you've already pointed out, when they do PC forensics, they would *NEVER* let the PC boot up on the original hard drive.
Sorry, I don't work in forensics so I don't have the "clean-room" mentality, so allow me to expand a bit.
Any type of forensic analysis requires "tampering" with the machine to some degree. Proper documentation of the methods involved, and how those methods affect the data on the phone would be needed, of course.
The kernel and recovery do not contain any user data - they are only writable while in download mode using the programs ODIN or Heimdall, or if the phone is already rooted. Samsung engineers could be subpoenaed to testify to this fact if it was brought up as an issue in the case.
If you are concerned that much about data integrity, instead of step four, you could instead do a dump (using dd) of all of the phone's data partitions while in recovery. I've done such dumps myself in order to create bootable/flashable file system images. These file system images could then be flashed to another identical phone using ODIN or Heimdall and that phone could be examined/abused with the original phone's user data partitions left un-touched and open to re-examination by the defense.
1) Flash a rooted kernel and CWM recovery with ODIN (all Samsung phones allow this) 2) boot into recovery 3) connect to the phone using ADB 4) Using sqlite, update the settings database and disable security
Actually your claim is not true.....Since it never really ran on either, the projects fizzled out.
I never said NT has continually supported multiple architectures throughout it's entire existence. I said it "was written to be portable across architectures from day one and has been ported to several different architectures over the years."
You've pretty much outlined Microsoft's plan for the last several years. Whether that plan will ultimately lead to success remains to be seen.
Regarding the kernel, the NT kernel was written to be portable across architectures from day one and has been ported to several different architectures over the years.
The U.S. had plenty of competitive plans. On Sprint we have two lines (both high-end smartphones) virtually unlimited** minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data for $137.00 (that was my last bill) a month.
Piggyback carriers like Boost Mobile offer $40/mo plans with truly unlimited everything.
Other carriers that are not named Verizon have similarly priced plans to the Sprint plan we have.
**We have 1600 shared minutes, but Sprint offers unlimited calling to people on mobile phones in the U.S.. Given that everyone we talk to is on a mobile phone, we end up using around 50 of our 1600 minutes every month.
On three separate occasions, we had computers stolen from my workplace and the computers checked in with our WSUS server, after they were stolen, leaving their public IP address. On all three of those occasions we shared the information with the local police immediately NOTHING was done.
Cost per capita (The U.S spends on average, double what Western nations with socialized systems spend) Infant mortality rate (The U.S. ranks 34, right behind Cuba) Life expectancy (The U.S. is again in the 30s and again behind communist Cuba)
efficient and beneficial of political systems: "in theory", and as long as you ignore how things actually work out
Your worthless platitudes don't change the fact that by several measurable metrics, socialized medicine has been shown in practice to work better than the United States' corporate dominated heath care system.
In Spain it was defined as a BMI of less than 18. In the article I read, an example of a 18 BMI was 5' 8"/125 lbs, which is pretty damn skinny in my opinion.
Homosexuals are incapable of producing children therefore aren't given the protection of Marriage.
The roots of marriage are economic; not religious. Children only come into play as the means to pass on wealth and power from one generation to the other. While I can see the argument procreation as a core component of marriage, the emphasis on "bloodlines" does not exist in modern society today, the way it did in the past.
invariably those in favor of Homosexual Marriages are simultaneously opposed to Polygamy and often use the same arguments against Polygamy that Opponents of Homosexual Marriage use against Homosexual Marriage.
As a supporter of gay marriage, my argument against polygamy is that it will lead to the hoarding of women by wealthy men, which would result in a shortage or marriage partners for men, which would lead to social unrest. That said, I personally don't see a problem with men having one legal wife and other non-legal wives, which seems to be the common practice among fundamentalist Mormons. This arrangement allows free association, while preventing powerful men (or women) from legally monopolizing partners.
The state has no legal or moral imperative to define marriage
That would be true if you think that the state should have no role in fostering a healthy and peaceful society, but I would disagree since the state is itself a manifestation of society.
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You speak as if there is an ample supply elsewhere.
So, a command economy with some capitalist trappings is more efficient than the western world's capitalism?
It may be (or seem so) in the short term, but they may have some serious long term economic issues to deal with.
For example, this.
No, I didn't. In fact I was one of the people that replied him and called him on his bullshit. I thought linking to his post from this one would serve the greater good.
Very interesting. I was told yesterday that to make these kinds of devices in a western country like the U.S. it would drive the cost up 3x-5x.
I suggest you look up what it takes to build an ipad and an iphone and how they cant automate the assembly.
I suggest you provide some proof for your original assertion instead of attacking me.
If you insane projections are true, why doesn't it cost $100,000 to make a car in the U.S.?
To build a ipad in the USA, you will be paying $18-37 an hour. Your factory will be required to meat all OSHA and EPA standards. The manufacture cost of a single iPad will jump to at least $1100.00 add a 40% markup and now you have a 16gig ipad base model selling for $1599.00
Not buying it. AMD makes microprocessors in Germany, a country with as strict or stricter labor laws and regulations, and the result is certainly not chips that cost twice as much.
Or is your argument that Americans are that much less competent at everything compared to other Western nations?
Also I wonder whether phones will allow you to just make a data dump of its storage just by connecting it to USB. My phone just charges when connected, doesn't go into USB drive mode (which afaik still doesn't allow access to the complete storage even, like contacts and so), though I have debug mode on so it does accept certain commands (including installing of apps, and running that app). But if that goes as far as allowing you to do a data dump, I really don't know. And most people will not have debug mode enabled to begin with.
This is where the rooted kernel and recovery comes in. The kernel can be configured so that debug mode is turned on and root shell via ABD is enabled by default before the kernel even boots android. All that is needed is a few lines in one config file in the kernels initramfs. This means by flashing the kernel and custom recovery you can get root access to the device without ever even touching the data partitions.
As for doing a dump purely over USB, I'm not so sure if that's possible. I'm sure there is a way, but it's above my pay grade. What I would typically do is do the dump to an external SDCard (obviously the feds wouldn't use the suspect's card) and then pull that file to the computer using the `ADB pull` command. If the phone doesn't support an external SD, some other methods might have to be employed. You could do `adb pull / c:\suspectsphone` and it would pull the entire file system, as mounted to the local directory on the hard drive.
Keep in mind that the FBI booting the phone up and trying to unlock it are hardly using a clean-room method. That would be the equivalent of booting a PC up on the original hard drive and trying to guess the password. As you've already pointed out, when they do PC forensics, they would *NEVER* let the PC boot up on the original hard drive.
Sorry, I don't work in forensics so I don't have the "clean-room" mentality, so allow me to expand a bit.
Any type of forensic analysis requires "tampering" with the machine to some degree. Proper documentation of the methods involved, and how those methods affect the data on the phone would be needed, of course.
The kernel and recovery do not contain any user data - they are only writable while in download mode using the programs ODIN or Heimdall, or if the phone is already rooted. Samsung engineers could be subpoenaed to testify to this fact if it was brought up as an issue in the case.
If you are concerned that much about data integrity, instead of step four, you could instead do a dump (using dd) of all of the phone's data partitions while in recovery. I've done such dumps myself in order to create bootable/flashable file system images. These file system images could then be flashed to another identical phone using ODIN or Heimdall and that phone could be examined/abused with the original phone's user data partitions left un-touched and open to re-examination by the defense.
+1 informative
Thanks for the link. I'd never heard of that Barry Cooper guy. He's a true American hero.
1) Flash a rooted kernel and CWM recovery with ODIN (all Samsung phones allow this)
2) boot into recovery
3) connect to the phone using ADB
4) Using sqlite, update the settings database and disable security
You're welcome.
Actually your claim is not true.....Since it never really ran on either, the projects fizzled out.
I never said NT has continually supported multiple architectures throughout it's entire existence. I said it "was written to be portable across architectures from day one and has been ported to several different architectures over the years."
Now that your screed is over, would you care to address the actual statement you replied to; that Windows has the same security functions Linux does?
lol.
We just did those too a few weeks ago. Stuff like workplace safety, conflict management, etc.
You've pretty much outlined Microsoft's plan for the last several years. Whether that plan will ultimately lead to success remains to be seen.
Regarding the kernel, the NT kernel was written to be portable across architectures from day one and has been ported to several different architectures over the years.
The U.S. had plenty of competitive plans. On Sprint we have two lines (both high-end smartphones) virtually unlimited** minutes, unlimited text and unlimited data for $137.00 (that was my last bill) a month.
Piggyback carriers like Boost Mobile offer $40/mo plans with truly unlimited everything.
Other carriers that are not named Verizon have similarly priced plans to the Sprint plan we have.
**We have 1600 shared minutes, but Sprint offers unlimited calling to people on mobile phones in the U.S.. Given that everyone we talk to is on a mobile phone, we end up using around 50 of our 1600 minutes every month.
Before I get bombarded with hello world jokes, I meant "a piece of software that complicated".
Sync is a lot more than a fancy radio control interface.
http://www.ford.com/technology/sync/features/
If think it's a bit naive to think that a piece of software could be written within typical commercial time and resource constraints and have no bugs.
On three separate occasions, we had computers stolen from my workplace and the computers checked in with our WSUS server, after they were stolen, leaving their public IP address. On all three of those occasions we shared the information with the local police immediately NOTHING was done.
Care to cite an example of the Canadian government denying care to a citizen and that citizen coming to the U.S. and getting successful treatment?
Three that I know off the top of my head:
Cost per capita (The U.S spends on average, double what Western nations with socialized systems spend)
Infant mortality rate (The U.S. ranks 34, right behind Cuba)
Life expectancy (The U.S. is again in the 30s and again behind communist Cuba)
efficient and beneficial of political systems: "in theory", and as long as you ignore how things actually work out
Your worthless platitudes don't change the fact that by several measurable metrics, socialized medicine has been shown in practice to work better than the United States' corporate dominated heath care system.
In Spain it was defined as a BMI of less than 18. In the article I read, an example of a 18 BMI was 5' 8"/125 lbs, which is pretty damn skinny in my opinion.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/5341202.stm
An empty and contradictory phrase. The need to verify implies the absence of trust.
Homosexuals are incapable of producing children therefore aren't given the protection of Marriage.
The roots of marriage are economic; not religious. Children only come into play as the means to pass on wealth and power from one generation to the other. While I can see the argument procreation as a core component of marriage, the emphasis on "bloodlines" does not exist in modern society today, the way it did in the past.
invariably those in favor of Homosexual Marriages are simultaneously opposed to Polygamy and often use the same arguments against Polygamy that Opponents of Homosexual Marriage use against Homosexual Marriage.
As a supporter of gay marriage, my argument against polygamy is that it will lead to the hoarding of women by wealthy men, which would result in a shortage or marriage partners for men, which would lead to social unrest.
That said, I personally don't see a problem with men having one legal wife and other non-legal wives, which seems to be the common practice among fundamentalist Mormons. This arrangement allows free association, while preventing powerful men (or women) from legally monopolizing partners.
The state has no legal or moral imperative to define marriage
That would be true if you think that the state should have no role in fostering a healthy and peaceful society, but I would disagree since the state is itself a manifestation of society.