Terminator "4", Ghostbuster 3, Radiers 4, Batman 1,244 etc etc.... All hollywood knows how to do these days is take the same old worn out theme, slap on a fresh coat of paint and throw it up there.
I hate to break this to you - but Hollywood has been recycling themes and plots since about the time the fourth movie came out of Hollywood. Hell, even Shakespeare recycled plots and themes.
I'd also like to ask, how do people think submarines stay down for so long without coming back up for 10,000 new bottles of Evian bottled water every few days? (yes we have distilling plants on board most ships to convert salt water to fresh but many also have water treatment/recycling plants as well)
US submarines depend 100% on distilling plants, they have no recycling capability. After the primary distilling plant and the backup distilling plant (actually reverse osmosis nowadays) - there isn't room for a sewage treatment and recycling system.
Additionally, I see a lot commentators/karma whores making the obvious comments that "we all drink recycled pee". This is true, but there are a lot of steps between you and the pee. Psychologically there's a big difference. (Plus NASA is rightly concerned about making sure there is 100% separation between the sewage side and the clean side.)
Now, what I couldn't accept (as a Trekkie) was the complete lack of science fiction depth. Where was the social commmentary? Where was the intellectualism? Where was the "What If?"
Yeah, like every episode and movie in the franchise had those things... Oh, wait. They didn't, not even close.
Instead, what we got was a generic action movie, with no real sci-fi in it at all. In terms of its "Star-Trekness," it was a travesty!
Yeah. Aliens, faster than light travel, time travel, who'd ever put those in a real science fiction movie?
On the other hand, it was a pretty great action movie -- I like it a lot, as long as I pretend it's not "Star Trek."
You mean "so long as I pretend it's not the fantasy Star Trek I've created in my mind out of whole cloth".
Well, ship control and combat control have been separated to some degree since the days of fighting sail... so I see no reason to assume, nor any reason to foresee, any future changes.
While your right about ship layout your wrong about "extras". There could be 12-20 people on the bridge of a ship each doing different jobs.
But those people aren't milling about - they are at workstations or other specific places.
The new Virginia class has at least 9 workstations plus navagation and command. There should be lots of people on the bridge.
My submarine had about 15-20 'workstations' (Defined as individual functions performed in a specific place), including navigation and command/control, manned during combat. We didn't have extra's milling about without an obvious job either.
Warship bridges in real life are deadly serious places without a dozen extras milling about without a purpose just to fill space.
The Enterprise isn't a warship. Starfleet's primary mission is exploration, and they double as peacekeeping/defence. I believe the analogy that's been made before is "NASA combined with the Coast Guard".
Yet, Coast Guard bridges are deadly serious places too. As is NASA Mission Control.
And even so, the Enterprise does function as a warship (as do Coast Guard vessels), and warships don't survive in combat by ignoring basic combat discipline.
So long as you don't have any actual experience with engineering spaces. Real ones do tend to be cramped, but they aren't random - the ones in the movie look exactly like what they are, factories pressed into service as 'engineering spaces'.
a bridge that looked every bit as crowded and chaotic as you'd expect for controlling a starship with a crew of a thousand
Again, only so long as you don't have any actual experience. Warship bridges in real life are deadly serious places without a dozen extras milling about without a purpose just to fill space.
One of my pet peeves is the tendency of SF to ignore how real-world combat vessels operate - ship control and combat control functions are separated. On a surface warship of any size, they are physically separated. Even on a submarine (lacking room for physical separation) they are functionally grouped. On US submarines, ship systems and control are traditionally on the port side and sensors and combat control on the starboard. Separating them is the periscope stand, the CO's battle station, where he can easily oversee both functions. (With the conning officer on the port supervising the ship, and the XO on the starboard managing combat control, leaving the CO to focus on the big picture.)
Except he didn't actually support his point - he just gushed over Star Trek and denigrate and dismissed other films. A great entry on a personal blog or usenet post, but not really/. material.
A smaller wagon would save her money on repair costs, even if her gas bill was the same.
Yet, you fail to adress whether or not it would meet her needs and standards. Clue: There's a lot of factors involved in choosing a vehicle. I'm getting close to dropping my minivan for a truck that gets half the gas mileage but which, as the minivan has problems with, does the jobs I need done.
some people I talk to love not even owning a car in New York, and those people are more often thin, healthy, & prosperous.
It's easy to healthy and thin when you are prosperous. It's easy to live without a car in a densely populated place like New York. Clue: Not everyone is either prosperous or lived in such a dense area.
[Remainder of ignorant twaddle snipped as not worth being the energy to reply to.]
Pretty much every economist knows that the way to achieve the stated goals is to dramatically increase gasoline taxes. After that, the market will work its magic. People will buy more efficient cars, or seek alternative transportation.
Yeah, and all those people who can't afford to buy new cars or who don't have access to alternate transportation will just have to suck it up and choose between gas and food or rent/mortgage payments.
When looking at where to live, the cost of commuting will play a bigger role in families' decisions.
Yeah, and all those people who can't afford to move will just have to suck it up and choose between gas and food or rent/mortgage payments. And who'll buy all those properties now too expensive for people live in? (And after selling your house at a loss, if you can sell, you'll be in a wonderful position to compete for houses closer in - houses whose prices are now rising because of demand.)
It sucks to be a real person instead of a mathematical abstraction I guess.
Of course no politician will even hint at endorsing what is clearly the economically rational thing to do.
I find it much more likely that politicians and their advisers are much smarter than you are and understand that real world economics aren't abstractions and that what seems 'rational' in the extremely oversimplified and over abstracted world you live in is in fact a recipe for significant economic disruption in the real world.
If we want people to use less gas, why not just raise the darn price?
Because anyone with common sense knows that the cure is worse than the disease. Those without common sense are invited to examine the effects of the spike in gas prices last year.
This only works so long as neither you nor the person you are 'communicating' with have any actual familiarity with the work flow in a real kitchen. Your 'analogy' would be confusing as hell to anyone who does.
His picture of the future is an interesting one - but his grasp of the past is shaky at best. In particular, the picture of the civilian aerospace industry he paints is largely wrong.
That, BTW, is why it's so funny when people muse about terraforming Mars and recreating an atmosphere, because any such effort would have to start with the creation of a magnetosphere like Earth's, which we have no chance in Hell of doing.
Given that it took anywhere from tens to hundreds of thousands of years to strip away the Martian atmosphere - we no more need to recreate a magnetosphere to terraform Mars than I need my own oil well to keep my car running. I just fill 'er up every time my gas tank runs low.
*This* is why I don't want the government running businesses (mail, trains, hospitals, schools). The people in power use that power to censor information contrary to their personal beliefs, and they push agendas we are forced to adopt (like the "feel good" philosophy that is failing to teach our kids anything). It's a rigged system, a monopoly, not freedom or liberty.
You're deluding yourself. *Whoever* is running businesses, government or private, will use what whatever power they have to censor information contrary to their personal beliefs or agendas and use whatever power they have to force those beliefs and agendas.
I guarantee that by taking up the "Great Zero Challenge," for instance, they'd have all the business they could ever ask for from the advertising value alone.
Yeah, if the world worked that way it would. But it doesn't. The marketing value of responding to a 'challenge' from a nobody is essentially zero.
You're years behind the times as that army is already virtually gone. They've long since been replaced by meters that can be read by simply driving down the street and interrogating them as they go by.
When you read the article, you find one of the main reasons he wants the articles back up is because he himself doesn't have copies of the articles. TFA and Slashdot are full of angst towards the megacorp, but nobody seems to have noted this point.
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CoX will allow you to run two instances from one install. I do it all the time to xfer stuff between characters using two accounts.
CoX does allow you to run multiples instances, but you are going to need some hefty iron to do it.
Even better than googling would be to drop by official forums, people are pretty helpful in matters like this.
I hate to break this to you - but Hollywood has been recycling themes and plots since about the time the fourth movie came out of Hollywood. Hell, even Shakespeare recycled plots and themes.
US submarines depend 100% on distilling plants, they have no recycling capability. After the primary distilling plant and the backup distilling plant (actually reverse osmosis nowadays) - there isn't room for a sewage treatment and recycling system.
Additionally, I see a lot commentators/karma whores making the obvious comments that "we all drink recycled pee". This is true, but there are a lot of steps between you and the pee. Psychologically there's a big difference. (Plus NASA is rightly concerned about making sure there is 100% separation between the sewage side and the clean side.)
Yeah, and there was a time when all politicians were honest too...
Yeah, like every episode and movie in the franchise had those things... Oh, wait. They didn't, not even close.
Yeah. Aliens, faster than light travel, time travel, who'd ever put those in a real science fiction movie?
You mean "so long as I pretend it's not the fantasy Star Trek I've created in my mind out of whole cloth".
Well, ship control and combat control have been separated to some degree since the days of fighting sail... so I see no reason to assume, nor any reason to foresee, any future changes.
But those people aren't milling about - they are at workstations or other specific places.
My submarine had about 15-20 'workstations' (Defined as individual functions performed in a specific place), including navigation and command/control, manned during combat. We didn't have extra's milling about without an obvious job either.
Yet, Coast Guard bridges are deadly serious places too. As is NASA Mission Control.
And even so, the Enterprise does function as a warship (as do Coast Guard vessels), and warships don't survive in combat by ignoring basic combat discipline.
So long as you don't have any actual experience with engineering spaces. Real ones do tend to be cramped, but they aren't random - the ones in the movie look exactly like what they are, factories pressed into service as 'engineering spaces'.
Again, only so long as you don't have any actual experience. Warship bridges in real life are deadly serious places without a dozen extras milling about without a purpose just to fill space.
One of my pet peeves is the tendency of SF to ignore how real-world combat vessels operate - ship control and combat control functions are separated. On a surface warship of any size, they are physically separated. Even on a submarine (lacking room for physical separation) they are functionally grouped. On US submarines, ship systems and control are traditionally on the port side and sensors and combat control on the starboard. Separating them is the periscope stand, the CO's battle station, where he can easily oversee both functions. (With the conning officer on the port supervising the ship, and the XO on the starboard managing combat control, leaving the CO to focus on the big picture.)
Except he didn't actually support his point - he just gushed over Star Trek and denigrate and dismissed other films. A great entry on a personal blog or usenet post, but not really /. material.
Um... What exactly is TFA about, other than being a gushing fanboi ode?
Funny thing... When my 76 Cougar hit a 96 Century at about the same speed - it was the Century that was demolished.
Yet, you fail to adress whether or not it would meet her needs and standards. Clue: There's a lot of factors involved in choosing a vehicle. I'm getting close to dropping my minivan for a truck that gets half the gas mileage but which, as the minivan has problems with, does the jobs I need done.
It's easy to healthy and thin when you are prosperous. It's easy to live without a car in a densely populated place like New York. Clue: Not everyone is either prosperous or lived in such a dense area.
[Remainder of ignorant twaddle snipped as not worth being the energy to reply to.]
Yeah, and all those people who can't afford to buy new cars or who don't have access to alternate transportation will just have to suck it up and choose between gas and food or rent/mortgage payments.
Yeah, and all those people who can't afford to move will just have to suck it up and choose between gas and food or rent/mortgage payments. And who'll buy all those properties now too expensive for people live in? (And after selling your house at a loss, if you can sell, you'll be in a wonderful position to compete for houses closer in - houses whose prices are now rising because of demand.)
It sucks to be a real person instead of a mathematical abstraction I guess.
I find it much more likely that politicians and their advisers are much smarter than you are and understand that real world economics aren't abstractions and that what seems 'rational' in the extremely oversimplified and over abstracted world you live in is in fact a recipe for significant economic disruption in the real world.
Because anyone with common sense knows that the cure is worse than the disease. Those without common sense are invited to examine the effects of the spike in gas prices last year.
This only works so long as neither you nor the person you are 'communicating' with have any actual familiarity with the work flow in a real kitchen. Your 'analogy' would be confusing as hell to anyone who does.
His picture of the future is an interesting one - but his grasp of the past is shaky at best. In particular, the picture of the civilian aerospace industry he paints is largely wrong.
Given that it took anywhere from tens to hundreds of thousands of years to strip away the Martian atmosphere - we no more need to recreate a magnetosphere to terraform Mars than I need my own oil well to keep my car running. I just fill 'er up every time my gas tank runs low.
If you don't understand the language, maybe you aren't the target market.
They've been mentioned at least twice in this discussion - and I've seen them mentioned in many other places.
You're deluding yourself. *Whoever* is running businesses, government or private, will use what whatever power they have to censor information contrary to their personal beliefs or agendas and use whatever power they have to force those beliefs and agendas.
Yeah, if the world worked that way it would. But it doesn't. The marketing value of responding to a 'challenge' from a nobody is essentially zero.
You're years behind the times as that army is already virtually gone. They've long since been replaced by meters that can be read by simply driving down the street and interrogating them as they go by.
When you read the article, you find one of the main reasons he wants the articles back up is because he himself doesn't have copies of the articles. TFA and Slashdot are full of angst towards the megacorp, but nobody seems to have noted this point.