It's actually interesting that you these Interplay games as examples of games that are still worth playing, because they both had an unskippable advert after you installed it (for another Interplay game).
Python and Tcl have already been compiled. If you yourself don't compile perl, it's only a matter of time before someone else does.
You can compile practically ANYTHING to run on this machine, which is why it rocks hard and is quite probably THE most exciting PDA ever released. It really is linux. it really is.
Graspee
"All someone has to do is port X to it and that will change"
Read the web page linked to before you open your.. er.. fingers...
I Quote from the faq:
"What window manager does the VR3 use? Can I open multiple windows at the same time?
The VR3 uses a modified version of flwm. Windows are maximized by default, but the `status bar' application includes (among other things) a drop-down window listing to facilitate managing multiple windows."
Yeah, but as I pointed out in my main post somewhere else in here- it scares me. I was hoping for the endless cycle of big bangs because if determinism is true then we get to live the same lives over and over again (See Stoics, The).
If the universe is going to eventually die at some point it doesn't matter how much time you have- YOU WILL STILL DIE. And when you are dead it will be as if you never were. (Nothing personal- this goes for anyone;) )
At the risk of being modded down, can I just say:
"You are on the way to destruction."
"You have no chance to survive make your time."
I'd hoped that the universe would slow in its expansion and then reverse until it all collected into one central mass again, then exploded outwards again.
Not only would this be like really COOL and CIRCULAR and make the universe seem more like a LISP universe than an ALGOL-60 one. (Algol programs- they just keep expanding until eventually they fade and disapate!), but I was rather hoping, like the stoics, that combined with determinism, it would mean that I would get to lead an infinite amount of lives- all of them the same.
I mean yeah, parts of my life have sucked muchly, but most of it has been really cool and I'm really enjoying it at the moment since I have no girlfriend and 12 computers in the house.
Also it just seemed RIGHT that this life I lead was the first, and also the last, in fact there would be no way of telling which iteration of the universe we were on because they would all be identical. (How can you have a static variable to keep track of the iteration when there's no place to put it where it won't be reset?)
Oh well, guess I'll have to find a religion to prop me up in my old age. It'll have to be one of those where you get to end up in "heaven" or some otherwise freakily cosmic namespace completely separate from the main universe, 'cos like, what's the point in getting reincarnated all the time if the universe will eventually die anyway? Good grief, entropy is a big downer! Even Buffy-style vampires are mortal in this universe, since they can't escape the death of the universe. (DOTU).
You can just tell I'm supposed to be working, can't you?;)
There's the original SimAnt of course, and a little-known, more modern version with **3D!** graphics, called Empire of the Ants by Microids (www.microids.com).
Oh yeah, right, that's Ants, not bees, but you know, big fuzzy deal...
Damn. I'm sorry, I just just used up my lost mod point a few seconds ago, or I would have given you a + 1 boost for sure. Why did you post AC? Consider allowing cookies so you can get logged in automatically, or create an account- it doen't take long and is well worth it.
AC is for trolls, Karma whores and erm... ships called Enterprise...
"Just because Be Inc, the company sees the end of money when they don't find new investors, doesn't mean BeOS, the operating System is a dead platform"
You're right- in fact BeOS was a dead platform back when Be Inc. had lots of money.
"Part of their shift to Linux was to remain afloat"
Erm, actually, it could ust be that Linux is more exciting than Irix.
I've waited a long time to put Linux on my Indigo 2. Haha! And I still have to wait, because SGI are only putting linux on their *new* workstations and servers.
Yes, you read that right. People want choice, but not between different versions of the same thing. An OS can only survive if it has pros and cons different to other OSs.
For example, someone mentioned Windows as an AOL of operating systems, e.g. for Joe 6-Pack. Well, OK, certainly that's true for the Win9X OSs. Then you have Windows 2000 for business types and people who want to run Windows applications in a more sevure and stable environment and don't mind that games can be a little more tricky to run.
Then you have Linux for people who want a desktop OS but don't like Microsoft, or people who want their shell to be cool and actually support pipes properly, or for the same reason as people want Windows 2000 Server for, except they want to run a proper firewall on it. (Check out Microsoft ISA Server sometime for a laugh).
(OK, so the above paragraph used to be "Windows for people who want a desktop but can't afford a real operating system", and I thought I'd get modded down as flamebait but went too far in the opposite direction... )
Anyway, so that's X86 hardware OSs anyway. Now you can easily see why BSD is dying (Oh dear, flamebait stuff again). BSD is dying because it was only really alive because people saw it as a better server OS than linux, but now that IBM and other big evil corporations are jumping all over linux, BSD is fading into the background (which is more of a shame than BeOS dying, but that's beside the point), because let's face it, it's too similar but has fewer developers working on it. Why run a subset of linux stuff on BSD when you can run linux?
Anyway, so I suppose my post could have been shortened to "BeOS is dying because it doesn't give us anything we can't get elsewhere".
I would add that it was always a joke that Be claimed they had this big kick-ass multimedia OS and yet it had lousy support of multimedia hardware because they didn't market it properly.
Anyway, fuck 'em. I mean they were asking us to PAY for this OS weren't they? I thought that would be unforgivable in the eyes of/. readers, but no, instead we get lots of this "It's a shame" posts. I suppose if a company is small and pathetic instead of large and evil then it's OK for them to charge money? If MS went out of business I doubt you would hear many "It's a shame" comments.
Allowing for your sig. being cut off, (and let's forget for the moment that you are actually wrong about "virii" being the correct plural of "virus"), I counted ten mistakes of either grammar or spelling in your post.
The only thing worse than a grammar nazi is grammar Hitler. I am your worst nightmare.
"You're comment about Windows being secure is true"
Um- If you dial up to the internet on a default install of Win98 it's not secure at all. If you put a packet filter into the equation and set it up properly, I'll let you off.
So if I've understood the article correctly (possibly not, since it's 6am and I've been up all night), your QBIT (quantum bit) can be in 1 of 3 states:
1) up
2) down
3) dead kitten AND live kitten (superposition)
Does this mean that we'll use a new, post-boolean algebra on trinary computers, or will we be running a binary system which gets internally compiled down into operations involving QBITS?
Maybe the third state will be soaked up by the error correction mentioned in the article...
I actually think it would be cooler to have a binary computer, but the third state really did represent an unknown and mysterious simultaneously true and false state...
dim x as boolean
x=MyComplexMethod("goat",45,"all your base")
if x=true then
print "Yes- true"
else
if x=false then
print "No- false"
else
print "WTF is up with this?"
endif
endif
(I'm replying to the AC who posted the "Every man and his dog seems to have at least tried linux these days" post as a reply to "BSD").
Heh heh, Don't know who modded you down, but I can see your point.
When I started with linux no-one had really heard of it and it was just so cool and unknown and fun to play with. These days it's all over the place- non-programmers (shock!) install it from cover-mount CDs and get along with it; IBM have "got into" it.
Notice this doesn't make linux worse in any way- it's just that a sort of unwanted elitism kicks in, and makes diehards feel like their secret love-child has been corrupted.
Their occult knowledge is now either known to the masses, or irrelevent since there's now an easier way to do it, or because a distribution does it for you with a script.
There is a place for people like this in the New World of Linux though- I mean there are plenty of hardcore Windows developers who are into a whole different level of things than people who run Office and Quake 3.
If not, might I humbly suggest the following operating systems for your geekly pleasure?
Sorry, I missed your point, of course the 68000 is nicer- but when you said:
"I had to write assembly for the 68000 and the 286 at the same time, so I had the opportunity to compare them. And I regret that the winning architecture was the Intel one."
I took it to mean that you prefered the intel assembly, but just regretted to say it because of the anti-Intel feeling on slashdot.
Slashdot Mirror
>>Before the bombing of Hiroshima, the US dropped >>leaflets warning citizens that the city would >>be destroyed, and telling them to evacuate
The US did not start leaflet-dropping until after Hiroshima, and Nagasaki received its leaflets the day after they bombed it.
graspee
It's actually interesting that you these Interplay games as examples of games that are still worth playing, because they both had an unskippable advert after you installed it (for another Interplay game).
Graspee
"I think that java approches being a really great language, but stops short because it is so god awful slow"
Languages don't kill speed- bytecode interpreters do.
Graspee
"larry is pretty high on the list too"
I got high on a list once.
I should have been warned when people told me that scheme coding was intoxicating and addictive.
Graspee
Python and Tcl have already been compiled. If you yourself don't compile perl, it's only a matter of time before someone else does.
You can compile practically ANYTHING to run on this machine, which is why it rocks hard and is quite probably THE most exciting PDA ever released. It really is linux. it really is.
Graspee
yes it's running X with fvwm as manager
"All someone has to do is port X to it and that will change"
.. er .. fingers...
Read the web page linked to before you open your
I Quote from the faq:
"What window manager does the VR3 use? Can I open multiple windows at the same time?
The VR3 uses a modified version of flwm. Windows are maximized by default, but the `status bar' application includes (among other things) a drop-down window listing to facilitate managing multiple windows."
Yeah, but as I pointed out in my main post somewhere else in here- it scares me. I was hoping for the endless cycle of big bangs because if determinism is true then we get to live the same lives over and over again (See Stoics, The).
;) )
If the universe is going to eventually die at some point it doesn't matter how much time you have- YOU WILL STILL DIE. And when you are dead it will be as if you never were. (Nothing personal- this goes for anyone
At the risk of being modded down, can I just say:
"You are on the way to destruction."
"You have no chance to survive make your time."
It's soooooo TRUE!
Graspee
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
The universe is all that there is.
Nothing more.
Nothing less.
There is nothing "outside" the universe.
There are no limits.
The human brain was not designed to comprehend the nature of the universe- so don't try.
Go play Fallout Tactics instead. It's life-affirming, in a romantic comedy sort of a way.
Graspee.
(Completely baked).
"Having done that, God(1) through God(N-1) become moot"
Only if you haven't patched your Universe against all the most obvious *moot exploits*.
I'd hoped that the universe would slow in its expansion and then reverse until it all collected into one central mass again, then exploded outwards again.
;)
Not only would this be like really COOL and CIRCULAR and make the universe seem more like a LISP universe than an ALGOL-60 one. (Algol programs- they just keep expanding until eventually they fade and disapate!), but I was rather hoping, like the stoics, that combined with determinism, it would mean that I would get to lead an infinite amount of lives- all of them the same.
I mean yeah, parts of my life have sucked muchly, but most of it has been really cool and I'm really enjoying it at the moment since I have no girlfriend and 12 computers in the house.
Also it just seemed RIGHT that this life I lead was the first, and also the last, in fact there would be no way of telling which iteration of the universe we were on because they would all be identical. (How can you have a static variable to keep track of the iteration when there's no place to put it where it won't be reset?)
Oh well, guess I'll have to find a religion to prop me up in my old age. It'll have to be one of those where you get to end up in "heaven" or some otherwise freakily cosmic namespace completely separate from the main universe, 'cos like, what's the point in getting reincarnated all the time if the universe will eventually die anyway? Good grief, entropy is a big downer! Even Buffy-style vampires are mortal in this universe, since they can't escape the death of the universe. (DOTU).
You can just tell I'm supposed to be working, can't you?
Graspee
There's the original SimAnt of course, and a little-known, more modern version with **3D!** graphics, called Empire of the Ants by Microids (www.microids.com).
Oh yeah, right, that's Ants, not bees, but you know, big fuzzy deal...
Graspee
Damn. I'm sorry, I just just used up my lost mod point a few seconds ago, or I would have given you a + 1 boost for sure. Why did you post AC? Consider allowing cookies so you can get logged in automatically, or create an account- it doen't take long and is well worth it.
AC is for trolls, Karma whores and erm... ships called Enterprise...
Graspee
"Just because Be Inc, the company sees the end of money when they don't find new investors, doesn't mean BeOS, the operating System is a dead platform"
You're right- in fact BeOS was a dead platform back when Be Inc. had lots of money.
Graspee
WindOS.
Would this be the clockwork operating system designed for use in third-world countries?
Graspee
"Part of their shift to Linux was to remain afloat"
Erm, actually, it could ust be that Linux is more exciting than Irix.
I've waited a long time to put Linux on my Indigo 2. Haha! And I still have to wait, because SGI are only putting linux on their *new* workstations and servers.
One day I WILL have a 64 bit linux machine.
Graspee.
"We have a deal that in my room I have the final say about most things and wife's room is her domain. "
So, do you like have two network cards in the living room or something?
Graspee
I'll tell you why Be is dying/dead/wounded.
/. readers, but no, instead we get lots of this "It's a shame" posts. I suppose if a company is small and pathetic instead of large and evil then it's OK for them to charge money? If MS went out of business I doubt you would hear many "It's a shame" comments.
People want choice.
Yes, you read that right. People want choice, but not between different versions of the same thing. An OS can only survive if it has pros and cons different to other OSs.
For example, someone mentioned Windows as an AOL of operating systems, e.g. for Joe 6-Pack. Well, OK, certainly that's true for the Win9X OSs. Then you have Windows 2000 for business types and people who want to run Windows applications in a more sevure and stable environment and don't mind that games can be a little more tricky to run.
Then you have Linux for people who want a desktop OS but don't like Microsoft, or people who want their shell to be cool and actually support pipes properly, or for the same reason as people want Windows 2000 Server for, except they want to run a proper firewall on it. (Check out Microsoft ISA Server sometime for a laugh).
(OK, so the above paragraph used to be "Windows for people who want a desktop but can't afford a real operating system", and I thought I'd get modded down as flamebait but went too far in the opposite direction... )
Anyway, so that's X86 hardware OSs anyway. Now you can easily see why BSD is dying (Oh dear, flamebait stuff again). BSD is dying because it was only really alive because people saw it as a better server OS than linux, but now that IBM and other big evil corporations are jumping all over linux, BSD is fading into the background (which is more of a shame than BeOS dying, but that's beside the point), because let's face it, it's too similar but has fewer developers working on it. Why run a subset of linux stuff on BSD when you can run linux?
Anyway, so I suppose my post could have been shortened to "BeOS is dying because it doesn't give us anything we can't get elsewhere".
I would add that it was always a joke that Be claimed they had this big kick-ass multimedia OS and yet it had lousy support of multimedia hardware because they didn't market it properly.
Anyway, fuck 'em. I mean they were asking us to PAY for this OS weren't they? I thought that would be unforgivable in the eyes of
Slashdot readers- fucking hypocrites!
Too annoyed to post AC
Graspee
Arseholes have opinions. Everyone is one.
"(is 1024*768 really that high a resolution?). "
On a laptop, yes.
Graspee
Allowing for your sig. being cut off, (and let's forget for the moment that you are actually wrong about "virii" being the correct plural of "virus"), I counted ten mistakes of either grammar or spelling in your post.
The only thing worse than a grammar nazi is grammar Hitler. I am your worst nightmare.
Graspee
"You're comment about Windows being secure is true"
Um- If you dial up to the internet on a default install of Win98 it's not secure at all. If you put a packet filter into the equation and set it up properly, I'll let you off.
Graspee
So if I've understood the article correctly (possibly not, since it's 6am and I've been up all night), your QBIT (quantum bit) can be in 1 of 3 states:
1) up
2) down
3) dead kitten AND live kitten (superposition)
Does this mean that we'll use a new, post-boolean algebra on trinary computers, or will we be running a binary system which gets internally compiled down into operations involving QBITS?
Maybe the third state will be soaked up by the error correction mentioned in the article...
I actually think it would be cooler to have a binary computer, but the third state really did represent an unknown and mysterious simultaneously true and false state...
dim x as boolean
x=MyComplexMethod("goat",45,"all your base")
if x=true then
print "Yes- true"
else
if x=false then
print "No- false"
else
print "WTF is up with this?"
endif
endif
(I'm replying to the AC who posted the "Every man and his dog seems to have at least tried linux these days" post as a reply to "BSD").
Heh heh, Don't know who modded you down, but I can see your point.
When I started with linux no-one had really heard of it and it was just so cool and unknown and fun to play with. These days it's all over the place- non-programmers (shock!) install it from cover-mount CDs and get along with it; IBM have "got into" it.
Notice this doesn't make linux worse in any way- it's just that a sort of unwanted elitism kicks in, and makes diehards feel like their secret love-child has been corrupted.
Their occult knowledge is now either known to the masses, or irrelevent since there's now an easier way to do it, or because a distribution does it for you with a script.
There is a place for people like this in the New World of Linux though- I mean there are plenty of hardcore Windows developers who are into a whole different level of things than people who run Office and Quake 3.
If not, might I humbly suggest the following operating systems for your geekly pleasure?
plan9
inferno
QNX
Regards,
Graspee
Sorry, I missed your point, of course the 68000 is nicer- but when you said:
"I had to write assembly for the 68000 and the 286 at the same time, so I had the opportunity to compare them. And I regret that the winning architecture was the Intel one."
I took it to mean that you prefered the intel assembly, but just regretted to say it because of the anti-Intel feeling on slashdot.
So, sorry about that....
Graspee
"Yeah, but do you ever dress up as Ada? "
Sorry, I'm not into the "bondage and discipline" scene...
Graspee