Wow - I'm suprised it still works. I've got the OEM 1200 with OEM fan/heatsink (which is just a Taisol fan heatsink with an amd sticker on it) - it runs between 31 degress celsius and 89 degrees (under heavy load).
I found it was my soundcard that was causing the slowdown - Terratec EWS64XL - its a strange bird. Oh well - as soon as I get a new job I'm getting a new one.
I hope the final version is a whole lot better - but here's my complaints
A) graphics - landscape looks really nice, but the gun models are worse looking then the ones in Day of Defeat (half-life mod)
B) Performance - 11 fps - no matter what I did to the settings (all fancy features off, 16 bit colour, 640x480 I got it up to 13 fps). Mind you I'm running this on a Thunderbird 1200 with 512 megs of (133 MHz) ram on an Elsa Geforce 2 GTS - this same system rarely drops below 70 fps in CS or DOD.
Not entirely because if you look at the results and the cost for NT after you scale it past 5000 users the hardware and the software get a lot more expensive.
Find an old dumpy SS10 - get another nic for it and install Debian (or some support Sparc Linux distro) - you end up with this slick looking computer/firewall - and there relatively quiet (mine isn't though - because of the hd I have inside it). Anyhoo mine cost about 65$ - with a 17" screen - and I spent another 50$ on a 10/100 nic for it (on ebay) - which I use on the internal side.
One thing about the SS10 is that it does ethernet IO with very little overhead on the system - which is ideal for a firewall. Even with a 40 MHz Cacheless supersparc its able to keep up just fine - and even do a lot of other services too (like ipsec - or dhcp - or web). Plus if you need more power you can just drop another cpu inside via mbus:).
You do know about the formosa conglomeration? I think it includes companies like National Semiconductor, SIS, VIA, FIC (motherboard company) just to name a few. Intel actually picked on a very very very large corperation (or group of corperations) when they went after VIA.
A computer aided machine - which have been around for the last 20+ years.
In fact I can remember designing all kinds of things in the early 90's in some cad application in ms-dos and then manufacturing them on a cam (computer aided machine) just by clicking the mouse. Even things like pullies like the one mentioned in the article.
It was an IT monkey position at a local shop called Powell's books http://www.powells.com - the fax machine to submit applications was sooo busy I couldn't get through.
When I called up to find out what was wrong with their machine (it would just roll over to another line most of the time) they said they were getting applications all over the State of Oregon and as far away as San Francisco all day long.
One thing I noticed that the current version of Wince (3.0) can do all those things too. And my ipaq came with a version of windows media player, and an outlook client.
Admitedly there are some anoying bugs like lack of left handed support, and poor hand writing recognition support (of course that could be because I'm left handed).
But I've seriously cruised a variety of wireless and wired networks with my ipaq. Most PC-Cards have drivers for CE and they work:).
Have you ever heard an emergency situation handled over ham radio?
Yeah - in its day it was great, but just recently I heard an auto accident called into an operator in town. It was an older guy who started by saying "hold on! let me find a pencil!" - and repeatedly asked the operator on site to repeat what was going on.
Hah hah hah! You know Ham radio really is going the way of the Dodo. I'm a ham myself, and I have found that network traffic (around here at least) has gone down considerably.
But as I recall Ham's and 3g get along okay in Japan. So who knows.
n7wsb
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But clock speeds are often a inidcator of performance - anyone who has played rocky's boots and knows anything about clocking transistors knows that.
I clicked on "Berlin vs. X" faq where it proceded to open up 10 trillion browser windows. Wierd - luckily I was able to gain control of the system again.
If you have ever done testing in conjunction with MS you'd know why they miss things like that. They tend to focus entirely on show stopping bugs and nothing else. Or in other words bugs that could cause major lock ups under "normal" use. They tend to ignore bugs at higher loads (things like video, or scsi crashing the kernel at higher system loads). If they take this same stance in security were in trouble:).
Frankly some of the things MS was blatently overlooking in XP (relating to hard locks and things like that) scare me. Especially as it has gone gold already.
Then you have the fact that there's a 8 and 16 bit version of almost every scsi protocol, and most controllers seem to be very picky on what kind of termination you need to have - and depending on the drive.
I've seen controllers that don't seem to like Seagate and IBM drives on the same bus.
And heaven help you if for some reason you need to put SCSI-2 narrow devices along side with wide devices.
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Well it is the heatsink fan that came with the chip. Probably not the best - when I get a new job I'll probably get a better one.
There's really nothing wrong with a ceramic package running that hot.
Wow - I'm suprised it still works. I've got the OEM 1200 with OEM fan/heatsink (which is just a Taisol fan heatsink with an amd sticker on it) - it runs between 31 degress celsius and 89 degrees (under heavy load).
I found it was my soundcard that was causing the slowdown - Terratec EWS64XL - its a strange bird. Oh well - as soon as I get a new job I'm getting a new one.
Read up on it yourself :) (page 12) (and in case your impatient - its 95 degrees C)
AMD's Thermal Cooling Guide (white paper)
I hope the final version is a whole lot better - but here's my complaints
A) graphics - landscape looks really nice, but the gun models are worse looking then the ones in Day of Defeat (half-life mod)
B) Performance - 11 fps - no matter what I did to the settings (all fancy features off, 16 bit colour, 640x480 I got it up to 13 fps). Mind you I'm running this on a Thunderbird 1200 with 512 megs of (133 MHz) ram on an Elsa Geforce 2 GTS - this same system rarely drops below 70 fps in CS or DOD.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong?
I'm not heartless bastard - and maybe its the fact that I'm unemployed and have been exposed to more TV of the events in New York then most people.
But I find myself looking at a channel - if its something I didn't already know I'll flip back to the simpsons.
Not entirely because if you look at the results and the cost for NT after you scale it past 5000 users the hardware and the software get a lot more expensive.
Find an old dumpy SS10 - get another nic for it and install Debian (or some support Sparc Linux distro) - you end up with this slick looking computer/firewall - and there relatively quiet (mine isn't though - because of the hd I have inside it). Anyhoo mine cost about 65$ - with a 17" screen - and I spent another 50$ on a 10/100 nic for it (on ebay) - which I use on the internal side.
:).
One thing about the SS10 is that it does ethernet IO with very little overhead on the system - which is ideal for a firewall. Even with a 40 MHz Cacheless supersparc its able to keep up just fine - and even do a lot of other services too (like ipsec - or dhcp - or web). Plus if you need more power you can just drop another cpu inside via mbus
You do know about the formosa conglomeration? I think it includes companies like National Semiconductor, SIS, VIA, FIC (motherboard company) just to name a few. Intel actually picked on a very very very large corperation (or group of corperations) when they went after VIA.
A computer aided machine - which have been around for the last 20+ years.
In fact I can remember designing all kinds of things in the early 90's in some cad application in ms-dos and then manufacturing them on a cam (computer aided machine) just by clicking the mouse. Even things like pullies like the one mentioned in the article.
It was an IT monkey position at a local shop called Powell's books http://www.powells.com - the fax machine to submit applications was sooo busy I couldn't get through.
When I called up to find out what was wrong with their machine (it would just roll over to another line most of the time) they said they were getting applications all over the State of Oregon and as far away as San Francisco all day long.
One thing I noticed that the current version of Wince (3.0) can do all those things too. And my ipaq came with a version of windows media player, and an outlook client.
:).
Admitedly there are some anoying bugs like lack of left handed support, and poor hand writing recognition support (of course that could be because I'm left handed).
But I've seriously cruised a variety of wireless and wired networks with my ipaq. Most PC-Cards have drivers for CE and they work
Seriously - these people aren't cut out for work (speaking from experience).
And - when they drop out of college more high tech jobs for those of us that did graduate!
I seem to remember a lot of Amiga programmers were into asm. Oddly enough most of Amiga DOS was written in C.
There was a version for the C64 - which I played with.
E-mail me sometime I can't send you the disk file and point you to a good emulator.
Serious man HP support blows. And so does my ipaq - which has been in the shop twice now...
Have you ever heard an emergency situation handled over ham radio?
Yeah - in its day it was great, but just recently I heard an auto accident called into an operator in town. It was an older guy who started by saying "hold on! let me find a pencil!" - and repeatedly asked the operator on site to repeat what was going on.
n7wsb (operator since 1991)
Hah hah hah! You know Ham radio really is going the way of the Dodo. I'm a ham myself, and I have found that network traffic (around here at least) has gone down considerably.
But as I recall Ham's and 3g get along okay in Japan. So who knows.
n7wsb
But clock speeds are often a inidcator of performance - anyone who has played rocky's boots and knows anything about clocking transistors knows that.
Great - we slashdotted it the geocities style (max file transfer achieved for the hour).
I clicked on "Berlin vs. X" faq where it proceded to open up 10 trillion browser windows. Wierd - luckily I was able to gain control of the system again.
Frankly some of the things MS was blatently overlooking in XP (relating to hard locks and things like that) scare me. Especially as it has gone gold already.
Mac's have the only scsi controllers (older macs actually) where performance is rated in 100's of k per second (read on a Apple TIL article).
That would be cheap - for a reasonably fast scsi drive I paid 247$ for an 18gig ibm drive the other month.
Then you have the fact that there's a 8 and 16 bit version of almost every scsi protocol, and most controllers seem to be very picky on what kind of termination you need to have - and depending on the drive.
I've seen controllers that don't seem to like Seagate and IBM drives on the same bus.
And heaven help you if for some reason you need to put SCSI-2 narrow devices along side with wide devices.