In Catholic dogma the angels were created by good, one of the many creatures in creation. They have a closer relationship to god than humans and serve in many ocassions as his messangers, but prophets do so as well, and human prophets also punish evil humans in the name of god as do angels in some instances (like when Adam and Eve are thrown out of paradise).
But there is absolutely no confussion about this in the Catholic dogma: angels are not worshipped at all.
... are OK in bad Westerns, they should not be close to administering a computer, let alone a datacenter,
"Stupid burecaucracy" very often is ther for a reason, most likely a legal one. Ignore it at your peril.
But no of course, we are geeks and we can do as we please because we have a root account. That makes us cleverer and more insightful than any bureaucrat out there.
The US revolution a succesful one? Ask a black slave back then, or a Native American.
And I wonder how many of those principled gentlemen had slaves. G. Washington did, I am too lazy to find about others.
As for the success of Revolutions all is relative. You say other revolutios were a disaster, that is clearly bullshit. Revolutions like the Soviet, French and Mexican one allowed hughe swathes of the opressed population to better themselves. You can say whatever you want about Stalin the monster, but once he was gone life in the USSR was immensily better that under Tzarist Russia 100 years earlier, ditto for Mexicans after our Revolution and to a very high degree for France, who became a worldwide power in the 19th century.
The US was in the brink of collapse thanks to a bunch of inhuman racists (whose descendants mantained an apartheid state well into the XXth century. So much for "succeessful" revolutions) defending slavery. The point I am trying to make is tha the US founders were not exceptional, they were flawed as the leaders of any other political movement. The reverence with which they are treated by so many USians reminds me the best days of personality cult in some Eastern BLock countries.
First of all software patents do not apply elsewhere. MS is marginalizing itself outside the US, and if anything, will give movements campaigning for stopping patents in software a big boost.
In any case, there will be people that will continue working on GPLed software. It only takes 1 court action and MS house of cards would come down crumbling strepitously.
If the only way MS can live with FOSS is paying for the priviledge usin false pretenses, that is their choice (instead of innovating and competing based in merit, they are so incapable of that that even them recognize it and are stopping trying). But if they think people will stop developping and is scared from patent litigation, they would find out they are mistaken.
MS: it takes only one case in court and your patent game would be over.
I have installed tens of times both Fedora and Ubuntu, so I have more than anecdotal experience. They are literally hands off installations (at least I don't have to call home to provide an unlocking code to use my computer).
Chose your timezone, your language perhaps, a password for one user, the kind of machine you want (desktop, server, whatever) and little else and you should be ok.
As for taking 15 minutes to boot, sorry, but that is not Ubuntu, it is your machine. Specially with the lastest version you have a login prompt in around 2 minutes (tops). because the Ubuntu team made sure to paralelize as much as possible of the booting process.
The GP post stated that it pains him to side with MS.
i.e. he believes they are in the right, thus he does the honest thing and sides with them.
But, and this is a big but, it always hurts when somebody who you consider despicable is found out to be in the correct side of a given issue.
Our moral compass is right, thank you very much (frivolous law suits against anybody, including MS, should not exist in an ideal world), your strawmen, cinycism and reading comprehension skills could do with a brush up.
Any sentient person should be able to evaluate Windows, at the very least the most important features, after that time. Even more so a technically savy person.
Becasue the bucket would clearly stop with all the distros that are not commercial in nature.
If they sue people working for Debian, Slackware or Ubuntu then they one trick pony would come to an end.
And people would eventually realize that starting a commercial Linux distro is a cow cash subsidized by MS.
So if what MS wants to do is subsidize the FOSS movement, they are very welcome. And if they are thinking this will kill the movement well, they are up for a rude awakening.
Did I mention that Europe doe not have patents on software? When they see the trick MS is try to pull on other companies they would be mad to listen to the software patents' apologists in detriment of the local IT industry.
If you can't give details of what you are doing (due to contractual constraints), how for the life of the bunny can you share your monmentous programming achievements with the community?
Sorry, but there is a logical blockage there, go grab some Drano and unclogg it because what you are saying is not compiling.
There are people out there that are creating software that is obviously very useful.
They are giving it away for free and they are putting conditions of how it is distributed, if at all. Their choice of licensing terms is completely inconsequential, call freaking license of hell if you wish, that is beyond the point. They wrote the software, they are the ones that have the legal right to decide how to distribute it and copy it (thank copyright for that).
Enters Tivo, your company, and it appears you as well. YOu want to grab that code, do whatever you want that is profitable for you. Well, sorry to break this to you, but that is not how the world works. You are using other people's work, so either you abide by their rules or you go and find somebody else that writes that software for you or you write it yourself.
I think most reasonable people will accept that.
If you can't release details of the software you are developing, can you please pray tell us how would the community possibly benefit from something you can't give? I find utterly ludicrous that you are accepting your hands are tied to share but you still somehow would want to use software that force you to share. You can't have it both way buddy. Neither can Tivo or your company.
Fragmentation may come, but I doubt in the way your are envisioning, what will happen is that we will be able to differentiate foe from friend, companies that just took FOSS for the free ride will have to leave the gravy train, companies that agree with the fundmanetla issue aobut access to software and freedom for end users will continue working in GPLed projects.
Funnily enough, MS and all its patent nonsense has helped us to see the benefit of including details about patents in the new version of the license. Corporations can continue "innovating", since they are reputedily so good at it I am sure they will not miss the contributions of "hippies" and "zealots".
Many is with big corps in different industries (oil, finance).
What you are saying makes absolutely no sense to me, but that is perhaps because these industries do not have software as their main activity and use it only as a tool.
If you ear is planted in Redmond, yeah, I suppose you will not hear moch pro FSS noise there.
For bunnies sakes, Sun and IBM have gone all pro FOSS, you can't get much bigger than that.
The freedom to benefit form others' work without giving back squat.
The freedoms taken away are the freedoms of the egoistic, egocentric, individual or comapny. No wonder MS and Apple use BSD software, that should tell us a lot about what we needs to know about who finds those "freedoms" useful.
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In Catholic dogma the angels were created by good, one of the many creatures in creation. They have a closer relationship to god than humans and serve in many ocassions as his messangers, but prophets do so as well, and human prophets also punish evil humans in the name of god as do angels in some instances (like when Adam and Eve are thrown out of paradise).
But there is absolutely no confussion about this in the Catholic dogma: angels are not worshipped at all.
.... then avoid making yourslef look stupid and uninformed.
The devil is not a deity, the devil is a fallen angel which was created by god and rebelled agains it.
The devil and angels are not considered deities (neither are saints, the Virgin Mary, the Pope, etc, I mean, clrifying just in case).
In Catholic dogma the only deity is god and it has 3 differents "persons" or way it presents itself: the father, the son and the holly ghost.
From an atheist raised as a Catholic, with love.
Because, at least in Catholic dogma, those are three representations of the same God.
Privacy, security?
What is going to happen when a teenager, bound to be uninformed about many consequences of their actions, commits a big mistake?
Let the youngsters' creativity manifest in other fashion. Providing free or cheap labour should not be that avanue.
... are OK in bad Westerns, they should not be close to administering a computer, let alone a datacenter,
"Stupid burecaucracy" very often is ther for a reason, most likely a legal one. Ignore it at your peril.
But no of course, we are geeks and we can do as we please because we have a root account. That makes us cleverer and more insightful than any bureaucrat out there.
The US revolution a succesful one? Ask a black slave back then, or a Native American.
And I wonder how many of those principled gentlemen had slaves. G. Washington did, I am too lazy to find about others.
As for the success of Revolutions all is relative. You say other revolutios were a disaster, that is clearly bullshit. Revolutions like the Soviet, French and Mexican one allowed hughe swathes of the opressed population to better themselves. You can say whatever you want about Stalin the monster, but once he was gone life in the USSR was immensily better that under Tzarist Russia 100 years earlier, ditto for Mexicans after our Revolution and to a very high degree for France, who became a worldwide power in the 19th century.
The US was in the brink of collapse thanks to a bunch of inhuman racists (whose descendants mantained an apartheid state well into the XXth century. So much for "succeessful" revolutions) defending slavery. The point I am trying to make is tha the US founders were not exceptional, they were flawed as the leaders of any other political movement. The reverence with which they are treated by so many USians reminds me the best days of personality cult in some Eastern BLock countries.
Look, there literally infinite numbers of ways to do the following:
x-y=1
A patent would protect the full million ways to arrive at this result.
Copyright would recognize every different way to arrive at this result.
And since software is nothing else that
http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/censoring_free _media_or_fighting
First of all software patents do not apply elsewhere. MS is marginalizing itself outside the US, and if anything, will give movements campaigning for stopping patents in software a big boost.
In any case, there will be people that will continue working on GPLed software. It only takes 1 court action and MS house of cards would come down crumbling strepitously.
If the only way MS can live with FOSS is paying for the priviledge usin false pretenses, that is their choice (instead of innovating and competing based in merit, they are so incapable of that that even them recognize it and are stopping trying). But if they think people will stop developping and is scared from patent litigation, they would find out they are mistaken.
MS: it takes only one case in court and your patent game would be over.
... if most ports are closed by default?
I have installed tens of times both Fedora and Ubuntu, so I have more than anecdotal experience. They are literally hands off installations (at least I don't have to call home to provide an unlocking code to use my computer).
Chose your timezone, your language perhaps, a password for one user, the kind of machine you want (desktop, server, whatever) and little else and you should be ok.
As for taking 15 minutes to boot, sorry, but that is not Ubuntu, it is your machine. Specially with the lastest version you have a login prompt in around 2 minutes (tops). because the Ubuntu team made sure to paralelize as much as possible of the booting process.
http://developer.kde.org/documentation/design/ui/
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http://dot.kde.org/1135283071/
http://developer.gnome.org/projects/gup/hig/1.0/
http://www.raizlabs.com/blog/2006/08/explorations
The GP post stated that it pains him to side with MS.
i.e. he believes they are in the right, thus he does the honest thing and sides with them.
But, and this is a big but, it always hurts when somebody who you consider despicable is found out to be in the correct side of a given issue.
Our moral compass is right, thank you very much (frivolous law suits against anybody, including MS, should not exist in an ideal world), your strawmen, cinycism and reading comprehension skills could do with a brush up.
Any sentient person should be able to evaluate Windows, at the very least the most important features, after that time. Even more so a technically savy person.
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Becasue the bucket would clearly stop with all the distros that are not commercial in nature.
If they sue people working for Debian, Slackware or Ubuntu then they one trick pony would come to an end.
And people would eventually realize that starting a commercial Linux distro is a cow cash subsidized by MS.
So if what MS wants to do is subsidize the FOSS movement, they are very welcome. And if they are thinking this will kill the movement well, they are up for a rude awakening.
Did I mention that Europe doe not have patents on software? When they see the trick MS is try to pull on other companies they would be mad to listen to the software patents' apologists in detriment of the local IT industry.
You are failing miserably to explain how MS will kill GPL.
I just read your rambling and it lack any coherence.
If that is MS's plan then I frankly think we don;t have too much to worry about.
MS can't make you distributor of other people's software just by them sying you are one.
MS promises not to sue you would be completely independent of the rights granted to you by the GPLv3.
MS is very powerful, but event ehm are not that powerful.
If you can't give details of what you are doing (due to contractual constraints), how for the life of the bunny can you share your monmentous programming achievements with the community?
Sorry, but there is a logical blockage there, go grab some Drano and unclogg it because what you are saying is not compiling.
There are people out there that are creating software that is obviously very useful.
They are giving it away for free and they are putting conditions of how it is distributed, if at all. Their choice of licensing terms is completely inconsequential, call freaking license of hell if you wish, that is beyond the point. They wrote the software, they are the ones that have the legal right to decide how to distribute it and copy it (thank copyright for that).
Enters Tivo, your company, and it appears you as well. YOu want to grab that code, do whatever you want that is profitable for you. Well, sorry to break this to you, but that is not how the world works. You are using other people's work, so either you abide by their rules or you go and find somebody else that writes that software for you or you write it yourself.
I think most reasonable people will accept that.
If you can't release details of the software you are developing, can you please pray tell us how would the community possibly benefit from something you can't give? I find utterly ludicrous that you are accepting your hands are tied to share but you still somehow would want to use software that force you to share. You can't have it both way buddy. Neither can Tivo or your company.
Fragmentation may come, but I doubt in the way your are envisioning, what will happen is that we will be able to differentiate foe from friend, companies that just took FOSS for the free ride will have to leave the gravy train, companies that agree with the fundmanetla issue aobut access to software and freedom for end users will continue working in GPLed projects.
Funnily enough, MS and all its patent nonsense has helped us to see the benefit of including details about patents in the new version of the license. Corporations can continue "innovating", since they are reputedily so good at it I am sure they will not miss the contributions of "hippies" and "zealots".
http://www.neurosaudio.com/
Many is with big corps in different industries (oil, finance).
What you are saying makes absolutely no sense to me, but that is perhaps because these industries do not have software as their main activity and use it only as a tool.
If you ear is planted in Redmond, yeah, I suppose you will not hear moch pro FSS noise there.
For bunnies sakes, Sun and IBM have gone all pro FOSS, you can't get much bigger than that.
Is your name FUDie or what?
That is an audio format.
You can implement encoders or decoders using whatever licence you want.
Crappy example frankly.
If you distributed software that is GPLed.
You can even use it and not give a rat's ass. That is how nice the GPL is to you.
The freedom to benefit form others' work without giving back squat.
The freedoms taken away are the freedoms of the egoistic, egocentric, individual or comapny. No wonder MS and Apple use BSD software, that should tell us a lot about what we needs to know about who finds those "freedoms" useful.