> Geek community (also known as "every kid who got
> beat up in the bike rack in middle school")
I beg your pardon. Some of us were linemen in high school. Just because you're smart and nerdy doesn't mean you couldn't beat the crap out of both of those tough guys in "My Bodyguard."
You couldn't get Gore to win until you presume the double-punches with him being one of the double-punchees, would mostly go to him. Extending the count would not have mattered as you could not predume this.
> Of course to a lawyer, the definition of better
> is as good as (I'm not making this up folks!)
Completely wrong! To a lawyer, "better" means "worst POS ever created, or that ever could be created, for that matter, but I will say that it's better, in my eyes anyway, so that's one person on this planet who think's it's better, which is all that's needed to legally say it's better, and even though I'm lying, you can't prove that I actually think it's crap when I say it's better, and if you suggest otherwise, I'll sue you for libel, too."
Uhhh, didn't anyone tell NCR that Star Trek:TOS (The Old Series) used what amounted to color palms as personal terminals to the ship's computers way back in the mid 60's? And that it was probably no way near the first appearance of such a device in SF.
It's a doubly good example given the story about how, when ST first came on the air, they were bombarded by 7 or 8 people who claimed patent infringement by their depiction of a hospital bed with built-in automatic sensor equipment.
> However records suggest that 60 million years
> ago, around the beginning of the Cenozoic,
> temperatures were probably 15 degrees higher
> than they are today
And all that did for Earth was give it extremely lush vegetation everwhere, allowing lizards to grow to unbelievably large size.
We're very arrogant to think we're living in some "optimal" planet design w.r.t. life. In fact, it's mathematically certain we are not.
> I'd accept that life, or capitol punishment
> would be waay too strong (probably ;
If you've ever been in the middle of a Quake CTF tourney when people mini-pingbombed you to lop 150ms off your ping time, then you'd think differently...
That's perfectly fine because a school newspaper is a part of the educational experience, and not some "real" publication, to put it bluntly. Yeah, it feels real to you, the students, but your elders will tell you that's it's just puppy love.
However, after school, you are just as free to speak as anyone else. Remember that story from two weeks ago where a public school got slammed for 65k$ because they suspended some students who bashed the principal and teachers on their own, private, after-school website?
Most home computing is surfing and game playing. As consoles pass the level needed to surf, the demand for an IE/Netscape level browser will lead to such a thing. MS just wants to make sure its them, and that any such powerful system becomes an MS one, such that future product ports (word processor, whatever) fall onto a MS platform attached to your TV, or new HDTV.
10 years from now, your HDTV will either have a GeForce 7 built into it, or the web box attached to it will, and it will be able to perform all the functions a PC does. "Hey, we need a keyboard attachment with word processor!" MS will be there. "Hey, we need a mouse too, and good voice recognition!" MS will be there. "Hey, we need a spreadsheet program, too!" MS will be there.
In my original megatroll and followups, I pointed out how these "charlatan" techniques worked regardless of whether the "charlatan" actually believed or not. That is their effect as evolved social behavior. Yes, people who truly believe aren't technically charlatanistic, but I used that word to cover the social behavior of hucksterism (also requiring knowledge.) Perhaps "foolishness" or "ignorance" might be better terms for true believers, although they also are inflamatory.
The other Muslim countries sent a large delegation to try to stop the Taliban, in fact, and failed (even had they succeeded, the damage was already done anyway.)
It's the lamest thing since the Pope saint-ized the guy who burned the Great Library of Alexandria.
One could just as easily argue that no religions seem divinely inspired -- are there any religious texts that don't propose some type of supernatural interaction with the world, and don't all these supposed interactions fail when tested scientifically, every single time?
> Some might say that. I don't know why, since i
> can't think up an experiment to prove or
> disprove whether god exists. And any logical
> arguements seem to be at a stalemate.
Ahh, but there are tons of experiments to look for any miraculous happenings, or any magical "faith" based healing, whatever. One CAN prove God exists -- seeing large numbers of miraculous cancer heals when people prayed would be one such simple proof.
One CANNOT prove God doesn't exist, though, because of one of the properties of God -- he could choose to hide from us, infinitely well if necessary. It is when all these standard tests (pray, see if person heals) fail over and over again that we MUST conclude that either God doesn't exist, doesn't actually care, or is deliberately hiding. The last of the three seems the least logical to me.
They just submit them. All they have to do say, "Here's the proper names, and here's those names passed through The Pigifier. We own the copyright to the information contained in files with these names."
> Because it'd be a real bitch to type tar -zxf
> Foo\ Source\ -\ Devel\ 1.3.2.tar.gz when I go to
> compile and install the package.
And this concern about typing difficulty has what bearing whatsoever on a modern OS to be delivered to tens of millions of people, who, if expected to do this, would fail miserably at a rate of 1/100 (very optimistic), calling your customer support line at a rate of 10000000/100 = 100,000 calls a day = bankruptcy in a week, or generating vile hatred for your corporation?
> Otherwise [the file type] info would have to
> be embedded in the file, then you Linux users
> would really be crying.
No more so than that the file name itself, or the file size has to be embedded in the file itself.
It's an OS issue. Recording file type as another chunk of data managed by the OS is trivial, and should have been done long ago in Windows, or Unix for that matter.
Having the file type as the end of a filename is fine -- for a quick and dirty hack. But that hack should never have made it into the market (much less the mass consumer market.) Everybody forgets how much like magic it seemed when double-clicking on a data file on a Mac fired up the application that handled it and then opened the file in that app. Anybody working with computers at that time had their jaw drop to the floor when seeing that.
Windows and Unix hack around this by still scanning the extension to the file, which, again, is a fine hack, but makes life extremely difficult for the average consumer should the extension type be changed accidentally (which happens all the time given the tens of millions of users.)
> Whether this is true or not, this is how
> business people think.
It's absolutely true. Indeed, it's far worse than this. The auto industry takes extreme precautions when designing a new facade for their vehicles each year, especially when there are radical changes. They know competing companies will see it, copy it, test it vs. potential customers, and rush out a copy the very same model year, or the next at the latest.
For every page of patent, there are probably ten thousand pages or more of trade secrets.
People seem to be thieves by nature -- not just business people, but everybody who argued Napster should not be shut down.
> Exclusive right to sell tacos would also be
> "property" and have value if a government
> decided to grant such a right. This is NOT a
> valid argument for creating such a right
European Union does have laws like this. In a phenomenon not present in the US, over there there are various regions that have traditionally produced this or that product, stamped with the region's name. Then people got the bright idea to make that product elsewhere and stamp it with that name. Champagne is the prime example -- if it doesn't come from that region of France, you can't call it Champagne.
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> Geek community (also known as "every kid who got
> beat up in the bike rack in middle school")
I beg your pardon. Some of us were linemen in high school. Just because you're smart and nerdy doesn't mean you couldn't beat the crap out of both of those tough guys in "My Bodyguard."
You couldn't get Gore to win until you presume the double-punches with him being one of the double-punchees, would mostly go to him. Extending the count would not have mattered as you could not predume this.
Yes, but would you steal critical parts of their source code, post it on slash-dot, and expect to not have it noticed?
75 million years ago, bodies were blown up on Hawaii.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute! Hawaii didn't exist 75 million years ago!
OMG, Scientology is a bunch of made-up crap!
> Of course to a lawyer, the definition of better
> is as good as (I'm not making this up folks!)
Completely wrong! To a lawyer, "better" means "worst POS ever created, or that ever could be created, for that matter, but I will say that it's better, in my eyes anyway, so that's one person on this planet who think's it's better, which is all that's needed to legally say it's better, and even though I'm lying, you can't prove that I actually think it's crap when I say it's better, and if you suggest otherwise, I'll sue you for libel, too."
Uhhh, didn't anyone tell NCR that Star Trek:TOS (The Old Series) used what amounted to color palms as personal terminals to the ship's computers way back in the mid 60's? And that it was probably no way near the first appearance of such a device in SF.
It's a doubly good example given the story about how, when ST first came on the air, they were bombarded by 7 or 8 people who claimed patent infringement by their depiction of a hospital bed with built-in automatic sensor equipment.
> However records suggest that 60 million years
> ago, around the beginning of the Cenozoic,
> temperatures were probably 15 degrees higher
> than they are today
And all that did for Earth was give it extremely lush vegetation everwhere, allowing lizards to grow to unbelievably large size.
We're very arrogant to think we're living in some "optimal" planet design w.r.t. life. In fact, it's mathematically certain we are not.
It's amazing how some environmentalists run around like Chicken Little, not even understanding the science they're getting all feral over.
Ozone layer depletion --?--> UV rays getting in AND greenhouse effect gasses --?--> global warming are two (2) different things.
I wonder if there were ever any that had a negative pressure, such that when drilling went through, workers were immediately sucked down the tube.
Kind of like those ice waterfall climbers who break through to the water inside and get pulled into the waterfall inside the ice column.
> I'd accept that life, or capitol punishment
> would be waay too strong (probably ;
If you've ever been in the middle of a Quake CTF tourney when people mini-pingbombed you to lop 150ms off your ping time, then you'd think differently...
That's perfectly fine because a school newspaper is a part of the educational experience, and not some "real" publication, to put it bluntly. Yeah, it feels real to you, the students, but your elders will tell you that's it's just puppy love.
However, after school, you are just as free to speak as anyone else. Remember that story from two weeks ago where a public school got slammed for 65k$ because they suspended some students who bashed the principal and teachers on their own, private, after-school website?
Most home computing is surfing and game playing. As consoles pass the level needed to surf, the demand for an IE/Netscape level browser will lead to such a thing. MS just wants to make sure its them, and that any such powerful system becomes an MS one, such that future product ports (word processor, whatever) fall onto a MS platform attached to your TV, or new HDTV.
10 years from now, your HDTV will either have a GeForce 7 built into it, or the web box attached to it will, and it will be able to perform all the functions a PC does. "Hey, we need a keyboard attachment with word processor!" MS will be there. "Hey, we need a mouse too, and good voice recognition!" MS will be there. "Hey, we need a spreadsheet program, too!" MS will be there.
"I like to keep my friends close, and my enemies closer."
.net more and more.
By making this available everywhere, it assures apps written on any platform will start using
In my original megatroll and followups, I pointed out how these "charlatan" techniques worked regardless of whether the "charlatan" actually believed or not. That is their effect as evolved social behavior. Yes, people who truly believe aren't technically charlatanistic, but I used that word to cover the social behavior of hucksterism (also requiring knowledge.) Perhaps "foolishness" or "ignorance" might be better terms for true believers, although they also are inflamatory.
The other Muslim countries sent a large delegation to try to stop the Taliban, in fact, and failed (even had they succeeded, the damage was already done anyway.)
It's the lamest thing since the Pope saint-ized the guy who burned the Great Library of Alexandria.
> [The Golden Rule] is pretty much the gist of
> Christianity, and the ancient texts quote Jesus
> as saying so.
It actually preceeds Jesus by many centuries. He was just quoting someone else.
One could just as easily argue that no religions seem divinely inspired -- are there any religious texts that don't propose some type of supernatural interaction with the world, and don't all these supposed interactions fail when tested scientifically, every single time?
> Some might say that. I don't know why, since i
> can't think up an experiment to prove or
> disprove whether god exists. And any logical
> arguements seem to be at a stalemate.
Ahh, but there are tons of experiments to look for any miraculous happenings, or any magical "faith" based healing, whatever. One CAN prove God exists -- seeing large numbers of miraculous cancer heals when people prayed would be one such simple proof.
One CANNOT prove God doesn't exist, though, because of one of the properties of God -- he could choose to hide from us, infinitely well if necessary. It is when all these standard tests (pray, see if person heals) fail over and over again that we MUST conclude that either God doesn't exist, doesn't actually care, or is deliberately hiding. The last of the three seems the least logical to me.
> Lemme know when [Britney] poses for playboy.
Ahh, but will you buy the issue, or steal the intellectual property by downloading a scanned-in issue?
It's akin to Ray-gun
They just submit them. All they have to do say, "Here's the proper names, and here's those names passed through The Pigifier. We own the copyright to the information contained in files with these names."
> Because it'd be a real bitch to type tar -zxf
> Foo\ Source\ -\ Devel\ 1.3.2.tar.gz when I go to
> compile and install the package.
And this concern about typing difficulty has what bearing whatsoever on a modern OS to be delivered to tens of millions of people, who, if expected to do this, would fail miserably at a rate of 1/100 (very optimistic), calling your customer support line at a rate of 10000000/100 = 100,000 calls a day = bankruptcy in a week, or generating vile hatred for your corporation?
> Otherwise [the file type] info would have to
> be embedded in the file, then you Linux users
> would really be crying.
No more so than that the file name itself, or the file size has to be embedded in the file itself.
It's an OS issue. Recording file type as another chunk of data managed by the OS is trivial, and should have been done long ago in Windows, or Unix for that matter.
Having the file type as the end of a filename is fine -- for a quick and dirty hack. But that hack should never have made it into the market (much less the mass consumer market.) Everybody forgets how much like magic it seemed when double-clicking on a data file on a Mac fired up the application that handled it and then opened the file in that app. Anybody working with computers at that time had their jaw drop to the floor when seeing that.
Windows and Unix hack around this by still scanning the extension to the file, which, again, is a fine hack, but makes life extremely difficult for the average consumer should the extension type be changed accidentally (which happens all the time given the tens of millions of users.)
> Whether this is true or not, this is how
> business people think.
It's absolutely true. Indeed, it's far worse than this. The auto industry takes extreme precautions when designing a new facade for their vehicles each year, especially when there are radical changes. They know competing companies will see it, copy it, test it vs. potential customers, and rush out a copy the very same model year, or the next at the latest.
For every page of patent, there are probably ten thousand pages or more of trade secrets.
People seem to be thieves by nature -- not just business people, but everybody who argued Napster should not be shut down.
> Exclusive right to sell tacos would also be
> "property" and have value if a government
> decided to grant such a right. This is NOT a
> valid argument for creating such a right
European Union does have laws like this. In a phenomenon not present in the US, over there there are various regions that have traditionally produced this or that product, stamped with the region's name. Then people got the bright idea to make that product elsewhere and stamp it with that name. Champagne is the prime example -- if it doesn't come from that region of France, you can't call it Champagne.