Sweet!! I am going to open my own store for iOS to sell 3rd party apps.... Oh wait...
This might be construed as monopolistic behaviour. Imagine if MS declined allowing the installation of any application that was not sold through their App store.
SCO has not claimed patent infringement, as according to the US Patent and Trademark Office database, no AT&T or Novell patent was ever assigned to SCO.
....Microsoft paid SCO $6M (USD) in May 2003 for a license to "Unix and Unix-related patents", despite the lack of Unix-related patents owned by SCO.
If you are aware of SCO owned patents, please do tell.
....plus there's the fact that the XP-64 was shit. It was and is buggier then hell, lacks drivers for common hardware as no one was offering them - high end was decently supported but forget about most workstations and printers! Drivers simply weren't there even for most corporate printers.
Amen brother. I also had several games that I had purchased for my (then new quad-core intel w/8GB RAM) that *refused to install* because they thought it was a *server* OS. *sigh*
XP-64 was simply MS saying "Wait guys, don't defect... we have 64bit for the workstation too!!!"
First off, I didn't say that was my belief. I was playing devil's advocate by answering the question in a way that *many* people in the open source community would agree with.
I don't have a problem with systemd per se, but the breakage introduced into udev is unacceptable and Lennart's attitude towards anyone that disagrees with him is not only insulting but degrading as well. All in all he makes a poor representative for a premier Linux company and I am surprised RH has put him in that position. There are also concerns about Lennart's attention span and how quickly he delegates major projects to a maintainer only to move on to the next big thing.
Systemd is also obfuscated and counter-intuitive in many areas. Having all of your startup located in one directory in nice human readable scripts certainly has its advantages. Systemd also has its advantages as well - quick boot due to parallel execution of init, service dependencies, etc...
The other thing that concerns me with systemd, as explained by Lennart, is not only providing the ability to boot a shell-less system but striving towards that as the end goal. That I have a problem with. If I wanted to use Windows, I know where to find it.
Pulseaudio is one of those things I guess either works out of the box and you love it or is a complete nightmare to set up and you end up hating it. I fall into both camps having had both experiences. Maybe I just love to hate it:D
I recently switched over from Gentoo to Arch Linux on several of my machines just so I could wrap my head around systemd (amongst other things). I also like the idea of a rolling distribution with *less* compilation time. Once I understood systemd and its underpinnings it is not so bad and remains mostly out of my way. Changing the naming convention of network devices that has been in place for decades really pissed me off at first and Arch's decision to drop net-tools by default (really???) did not help matters in this regard.
I believe he might be referring to block heaters. However, block heaters are plugged into an outlet, they are not run off the batteries. I assume they are run off an outlet because the energy demands would drain the batteries. This suggests that a heating solution suitable for a battery pack the size of which OP is referring would probably not leave much reason for using an energy efficient vehicle to begin with.
Amen Brother! I really don't like GTK, and Razor-qt has really become quite usable on my old laptop (PIII 1.2Ghz, 512MB RAM, GeForce2MX Mobile 32MB).
I also use it as a fall back desktop on my Gentoo machines in event I break something on the main desktop. Razor-qt compiles in a few minutes compared to the hours it takes to recompile KDE.
Also, if you use kwin as the window manager you get all the desktop effects available in KDE without the overhead of Plasma.
It's a choice between having a single source who can fix bugs, or a significantly larger pool of people who are capable of fixing those bugs. Employees of a single company are beholden to the business goals of that company, goals which are highly likely to differ from your needs as a user.
Err, why are my needs likely to differ greatly with the goals of the company? If I buy a product from a company, I'd say the chances are good that my needs jive with their goals.
Sweet!!! I am going to go download the beta drivers for OSX to try out the new bug fixes.. oh, wait, I can't do that... Nevermind -- when are the chipset fixes coming out for the 780i/790i chipsets that cause SATA to act all funny under Linux? Any day now.. oh, wait, never.. Well hell, I am going to go grab the BeOS drivers for my NVidia card so I can hack on that OS... oh wait... no such drivers...
In the future, please don't assume that your needs cover everyone's needs.
Back in the day I had a 386 with 8Mb RAM! Of course, 6Mb of that took up 3 ISA slots and, if I remember correctly, the other 2Mb was soldered on to the motherboard.
Please do not dismiss this because a relative few take advantage of it. \obligatory_car_analogy\ - Simply because few people are qualified or capable of repairing or adding features to my automobile does not mean that I want that capability removed.
He was asked if he had *ever* been involved in a lawsuit, and if so to expand on that. He is making erroneous claims that the question only pertained to the preceding 10 years now that he has been called out on that, despite all court transcripts never mentioning a 10 year limit.
That's because you (like most of us here) learned about computers using devices with separate keyboard, mouse and screen. We are currently at the tipping point where more youth learn about computers through devices with only a touchscreen....
I agree with what you are saying, to a point. I have been using computers of one sort or another since the early 80's and have always had a keyboard at minimum, and a mouse and possibly other HID devices later.
Recently (past ~3yrs) I have used several tablets/smartphones. While I am continuously impressed with what can be done on these devices, I am always cognizant of what *can't* be done on these devices.
Tablets/Smartphones are great for instant satisfaction, but are quite weak compared to a desktop, unless you have great eyesight and you only do a few minimal things. Even browsing the web becomes cumbersome quickly when you need to *type* anything. Forget about doing any actual work on one of these things such as replying to emails or anything that is enhanced by more than one 10" screen.
I realize that the hardware/software manufacturers love the idea of these portable devices and all of the restrictions (hardware/software locks) contained within, but I like to think that people will not always be content with the lowest common denominator.
I agree that these devices have a place , however they will never fully displace desktops/laptops.
Except that Apple never should have won in the first place and almost certainly will lose on appeal. If the jury had not been tainted by a jury foreman with an agenda, Apple would never have won -- and before you dispute this, please do some research. This man is on record incriminating himself.
Actually, you are not so much selecting jurors during the process as you are removing potential jurors from the pool (because you can demonstrate some reason they would not be impartial). I believe both sides of the case also have a limited number of uncontested juror eliminations (from the jury).
There are actually several issues with regard to this jury foreman.
The first of which is that he was sued by Seagate, which not only bankrupted him but also put his house into foreclosure. That is something that I am sure he will never forget and he will be biased against any entity that has favorable dealings with the company that *ruined* him until his end of days. Now, I agree with you that if this was *all* the evidence against this man, that is grasping at straws.
However, there is also the issue that this man, as jury foreman, used his position in the jury to sway the other jury members to make a ruling that was in direct conflict with the instructions handed down by the judge; then he *went on record* bragging about it. So, not only does he have an MO, he also acted in a manner that suggests prejudice/bias.
Lastly, he lied during the jury selection process so that he would be put on the jury. That in and of itself also demonstrates bias.
Face it, this man had an agenda and he followed through on that agenda. There is a reason why this is the one flagship case Apple brings up every time they lose another case in another jurisdiction; and this "win" is in serious jeopardy.
I suggest you read up on this a bit. I agree that the Seagate/Samsung tie seems to be a bit tenuous until you look at what this man did to get on the jury. He wanted to be there and that, my friend, demonstrates bias.
Upon further research, it appears that he also ignored the judge's specific instructions, presumably because as a (former?) patent holder, he knew more about patent law than the judge does.
If this was a fishing expedition, it was a good day out fishing.
There is no particular reason to believe that using Linux hasn't affected the work flow in truly significant ways (either positively or negatively, we don't know, cause they didn't check).
There is no particular reason to suppose that Linux *has* affected work flow in any measurable amount. I am assuming that is one of the original requirements of the system; that workflow remain unchanged or improved. What makes you assume that workflow would be directly affected by this switch? If the transition to new software is properly planned and the associated training takes place, what would directly affect productivity?
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but you have not provided anything to back up the premise of your argument.
I know this is not your point, but do you realize that Apple has been *losing* most of their lawsuits against Samsung and that the US lawsuit Apple did win will probably be overturned on appeal?
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Sweet!! I am going to open my own store for iOS to sell 3rd party apps.... Oh wait...
This might be construed as monopolistic behaviour. Imagine if MS declined allowing the installation of any application that was not sold through their App store.
DRM is probably...
As an example, the DRM being used for Flash is most likely....
I would bet on....
Do you have any actual facts to bring to the conversation or simply pure speculation?
I don't recall there ever being a patent argument in any of the SCO cases. All I recall are copyright infringement claims.
....Microsoft paid SCO $6M (USD) in May 2003 for a license to "Unix and Unix-related patents", despite the lack of Unix-related patents owned by SCO.
Wikipedia agrees with this.
From the previously linked article:
SCO has not claimed patent infringement, as according to the US Patent and Trademark Office database, no AT&T or Novell patent was ever assigned to SCO.
If you are aware of SCO owned patents, please do tell.
....plus there's the fact that the XP-64 was shit. It was and is buggier then hell, lacks drivers for common hardware as no one was offering them - high end was decently supported but forget about most workstations and printers! Drivers simply weren't there even for most corporate printers.
Amen brother. I also had several games that I had purchased for my (then new quad-core intel w/8GB RAM) that *refused to install* because they thought it was a *server* OS. *sigh*
XP-64 was simply MS saying "Wait guys, don't defect... we have 64bit for the workstation too!!!"
First off, I didn't say that was my belief. I was playing devil's advocate by answering the question in a way that *many* people in the open source community would agree with.
:D
I don't have a problem with systemd per se, but the breakage introduced into udev is unacceptable and Lennart's attitude towards anyone that disagrees with him is not only insulting but degrading as well. All in all he makes a poor representative for a premier Linux company and I am surprised RH has put him in that position. There are also concerns about Lennart's attention span and how quickly he delegates major projects to a maintainer only to move on to the next big thing.
Systemd is also obfuscated and counter-intuitive in many areas. Having all of your startup located in one directory in nice human readable scripts certainly has its advantages. Systemd also has its advantages as well - quick boot due to parallel execution of init, service dependencies, etc...
The other thing that concerns me with systemd, as explained by Lennart, is not only providing the ability to boot a shell-less system but striving towards that as the end goal. That I have a problem with. If I wanted to use Windows, I know where to find it.
Pulseaudio is one of those things I guess either works out of the box and you love it or is a complete nightmare to set up and you end up hating it. I fall into both camps having had both experiences. Maybe I just love to hate it
I recently switched over from Gentoo to Arch Linux on several of my machines just so I could wrap my head around systemd (amongst other things). I also like the idea of a rolling distribution with *less* compilation time. Once I understood systemd and its underpinnings it is not so bad and remains mostly out of my way. Changing the naming convention of network devices that has been in place for decades really pissed me off at first and Arch's decision to drop net-tools by default (really???) did not help matters in this regard.
The jury is still out on pulseaudio in my book.
I'm just wondering why you think Red Hat wants to kill open source?
Two words. Lennart Poettering.
See also systemd and pulseaudio. Or better yet, ask Linus himself.
High pay by itself isn't going find anyone....
Speak for yourself!
Seriously though, I have a job I love and while not startup/rockstar pay grade, I am quite comfortable and happy.
Best $15 I ever spent.
I believe he might be referring to block heaters. However, block heaters are plugged into an outlet, they are not run off the batteries. I assume they are run off an outlet because the energy demands would drain the batteries. This suggests that a heating solution suitable for a battery pack the size of which OP is referring would probably not leave much reason for using an energy efficient vehicle to begin with.
Amen Brother! I really don't like GTK, and Razor-qt has really become quite usable on my old laptop (PIII 1.2Ghz, 512MB RAM, GeForce2MX Mobile 32MB).
I also use it as a fall back desktop on my Gentoo machines in event I break something on the main desktop. Razor-qt compiles in a few minutes compared to the hours it takes to recompile KDE.
Also, if you use kwin as the window manager you get all the desktop effects available in KDE without the overhead of Plasma.
It's a choice between having a single source who can fix bugs, or a significantly larger pool of people who are capable of fixing those bugs. Employees of a single company are beholden to the business goals of that company, goals which are highly likely to differ from your needs as a user.
Err, why are my needs likely to differ greatly with the goals of the company? If I buy a product from a company, I'd say the chances are good that my needs jive with their goals.
Sweet!!! I am going to go download the beta drivers for OSX to try out the new bug fixes.. oh, wait, I can't do that...
Nevermind -- when are the chipset fixes coming out for the 780i/790i chipsets that cause SATA to act all funny under Linux? Any day now.. oh, wait, never..
Well hell, I am going to go grab the BeOS drivers for my NVidia card so I can hack on that OS... oh wait... no such drivers...
In the future, please don't assume that your needs cover everyone's needs.
Since ReactOS is clean room reverse engineered....
That works fine for copyright, but has no affect on the patented bits. If you violate a patent, despite the manner of your solution, you are liable.
Back in the day I had a 386 with 8Mb RAM! Of course, 6Mb of that took up 3 ISA slots and, if I remember correctly, the other 2Mb was soldered on to the motherboard.
I don't recall mentioning anything about Windows, let alone anti-trust suits against anyone, including MS.
Now that you bring it up though, how do you think that lawsuit would have ended had MS blocked installation of *every* non-IE browser?
and side loading is allowed as well.
Of which very few people are going to ever do.
Please do not dismiss this because a relative few take advantage of it.
\obligatory_car_analogy\ - Simply because few people are qualified or capable of repairing or adding features to my automobile does not mean that I want that capability removed.
He was asked if he had *ever* been involved in a lawsuit, and if so to expand on that. He is making erroneous claims that the question only pertained to the preceding 10 years now that he has been called out on that, despite all court transcripts never mentioning a 10 year limit.
Google and Groklaw are your friends.
That's because you (like most of us here) learned about computers using devices with separate keyboard, mouse and screen. We are currently at the tipping point where more youth learn about computers through devices with only a touchscreen....
I agree with what you are saying, to a point. I have been using computers of one sort or another since the early 80's and have always had a keyboard at minimum, and a mouse and possibly other HID devices later.
Recently (past ~3yrs) I have used several tablets/smartphones. While I am continuously impressed with what can be done on these devices, I am always cognizant of what *can't* be done on these devices.
Tablets/Smartphones are great for instant satisfaction, but are quite weak compared to a desktop, unless you have great eyesight and you only do a few minimal things. Even browsing the web becomes cumbersome quickly when you need to *type* anything. Forget about doing any actual work on one of these things such as replying to emails or anything that is enhanced by more than one 10" screen.
I realize that the hardware/software manufacturers love the idea of these portable devices and all of the restrictions (hardware/software locks) contained within, but I like to think that people will not always be content with the lowest common denominator.
I agree that these devices have a place , however they will never fully displace desktops/laptops.
Except that Apple never should have won in the first place and almost certainly will lose on appeal. If the jury had not been tainted by a jury foreman with an agenda, Apple would never have won -- and before you dispute this, please do some research. This man is on record incriminating himself.
Actually, you are not so much selecting jurors during the process as you are removing potential jurors from the pool (because you can demonstrate some reason they would not be impartial). I believe both sides of the case also have a limited number of uncontested juror eliminations (from the jury).
There are actually several issues with regard to this jury foreman.
The first of which is that he was sued by Seagate, which not only bankrupted him but also put his house into foreclosure. That is something that I am sure he will never forget and he will be biased against any entity that has favorable dealings with the company that *ruined* him until his end of days. Now, I agree with you that if this was *all* the evidence against this man, that is grasping at straws.
However, there is also the issue that this man, as jury foreman, used his position in the jury to sway the other jury members to make a ruling that was in direct conflict with the instructions handed down by the judge; then he *went on record* bragging about it. So, not only does he have an MO, he also acted in a manner that suggests prejudice/bias.
Lastly, he lied during the jury selection process so that he would be put on the jury. That in and of itself also demonstrates bias.
Face it, this man had an agenda and he followed through on that agenda. There is a reason why this is the one flagship case Apple brings up every time they lose another case in another jurisdiction; and this "win" is in serious jeopardy.
I suggest you read up on this a bit. I agree that the Seagate/Samsung tie seems to be a bit tenuous until you look at what this man did to get on the jury. He wanted to be there and that, my friend, demonstrates bias.
Upon further research, it appears that he also ignored the judge's specific instructions, presumably because as a (former?) patent holder, he knew more about patent law than the judge does.
If this was a fishing expedition, it was a good day out fishing.
...that's why half of my team uses MS Office while others use Open Office...
If there were a better alternative to MS Office I'd consider using it...
Are you a politician?
There is no particular reason to believe that using Linux hasn't affected the work flow in truly significant ways (either positively or negatively, we don't know, cause they didn't check).
There is no particular reason to suppose that Linux *has* affected work flow in any measurable amount. I am assuming that is one of the original requirements of the system; that workflow remain unchanged or improved. What makes you assume that workflow would be directly affected by this switch? If the transition to new software is properly planned and the associated training takes place, what would directly affect productivity?
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but you have not provided anything to back up the premise of your argument.
vi + /etc over regedit any day of the week.
This. A million times this.
I know this is not your point, but do you realize that Apple has been *losing* most of their lawsuits against Samsung and that the US lawsuit Apple did win will probably be overturned on appeal?