Hardware support? Seriously? You're saying the operating system that ships with more hardware drivers than any other operating system in the history of computing lacks hardware support? You are off your nut.
Software availability? What exactly does Windows ship with again?
Maybe I don't mind running 'sudo killall pulseaudio' every now and then when there's no sound playback - try explaining that to the common user.
1. Osama bin Laden is a Saudi crown prince. It's not Osama bin Random Dude Off The Street. You can't hand-wave that away. 2. The Taliban at no time "refused to turn them over." They denied knowing their whereabouts and invited us to come in and verify that. We did so with cruise missiles.
Well, that depends on what kind of "complex task" you're talking about it. I find myself batch editing id3 tags constantly. Constantly. Easytag does it for me. OTOH, when I have to batch-edit images, it's imagemagick all the way.
Sorry if this is kind of a sidebar, but thinking about that just now, I think what makes Easytag good at what it does is that it's really several command-driven interfaces brought together in a graphical interface.
Accessible to who? I wouldn't know where to start with Photoshop, but I could perform the mentioned task in Imagemagick in seconds (not counting processor time). Which is not to say that one is "better" or "worse," but that "accessibility" really varies depending on who's trying to access it.
tends to save a lot of time on the end user side of things.
Really? Let's delete a file. Let's say, ~/documents/foo.txt. Ready?
GUI: * Alt-F2 * Type "dolphin," hit enter, Dolphin opens in ~ * Click the documents folder, then do one of the following:
** Click the plus sign on the foo.txt icon
** Hit delete OR
** Right click the foo.txt icon
** Select "Move to trash" THEN * Right click the trash can * Select "Empty trash"
I would argue that the US is in Afghanistan because of "global strategery." It happens to be a most convenient place for us to simultaneously keep an eye on Pakistan, Iran, Russia, and China. Look at a map.
Repeat after me, "The United States military is not a moral agent."
Now that I've installed oldbar I really like the new location bar functionality (although calling it the "Awesomebar" is still dumb). It keeps all the functionality, but displays results in a much more condensed, FF2 like fashion (hence the name), which is a lot nicer to work with when going through long lists of entries.
That's Evince, not "PDF viewers on Linux." Okular certainly doesn't do that. Y'know, for all the crap I hear about how slow and bloated KDE is, in my experience the application suite completely outperforms Gnome.
An anarchist wants government out of everything. A populist wants government to control everything. An actual liberal wants government to control business but not morality. An actual conservative wants the opposite.
Why is it then that I'm looked at like an extra-terrestrial being when I tell people I pay for things?
Sure, not ALL of the money goes to the artists, but that's not within my control. Paying for the music gets the artist a piece of the pie while pirating gives them nothing.
I do both, and that itself discredits the idea that pirating "gives them nothing." For instance, I started getting more into classic rock and downloaded Billy Joel's discography (God knows how long ago, years). Since then I have purchased hard copies of pretty much every Billy Joel album I've been able to find, many in both CD and vinyl. I have bought about fifteen more albums than I otherwise would have right there. That is one example of many.
Okay, hang on. This started really poorly, and that's my fault, and I'm sorry. The culture of Slashdot really encourages argument, but I've got no call to be hostile with you. I'm sorry. Let me start again, because I do have some issues with some of the things you said, and I'd like to explain why a little better, and a little less like a prick. K?
My issue with your statements is that they seem to carry with them a couple implicit assumptions that I find really harmful. First, that femininity is a negative thing, I think I've already covered. But secondly, and just as important to me, is the assumption that queer people are weak and need defending. I find that much more offensive than somebody's jokes about furniture.
There are all kinds of queer people. Truck drivers and hackers and construction workers and, yes, interior designers, drag queens, dancers, and lots and lots of fantastic hair.
But you won't find any sissies here. Even the sissies aren't sissies. Hell, some of the gay men I know who portray themselves as the most feminine are some of the stone cold toughest people I've ever met, and real role models to me, both in their effectiveness as agents for change and as how they comport themselves as human beings in a mean ol' world and hold their heads high. Don't mess with a drag queen, they'll rip your balls off.
In all seriousness, if you want a safe stereotype, here's one: every single queer person you'll ever meet has been through more abuse, faced down more hate, and overcome more pain than most people can possibly imagine. We've been fighting a battle for civil rights for civil rights for fifty years, and we're winning. And we're gonna win. We don't need to be protected from jokes about furniture.
Again, I'm really sorry that I came at you with such hostility before. I hope you can look past that and see what I'm really trying to say here, and maybe from there we can have a more productive dialog.
Has one self-identified queer in this entire discussion raised this issue? Has anyone objected? Or are you just choosing to be offended on other people's behalves?
For a stereotype to be a useful thing, it would have to be overwhelmingly accurate. When 98% of gay men
Did you ever take a statistics class? Do math.
are mincing, effeminate people obsessed with the colour of their sofa, then you can start generalising.
What the hell is this? Why do you consistently present femininity as a negative trait? I find that a little disgusting. Why do you consider this to be a negative stereotype, and why do you insist on externalizing that onto others?
Judging someone based on some arbitrary grouping you assign to them is offensive to me.
Welcome to America. You don't have the right to not be offended.
That you are gay gives you no greater or lesser authority to speak on another gay person's behalf or say whether or not other people should mind being pre-judged.
Of course not, that's obviously what you're here for.
Oh, and I didn't say gay. I said queer. But thanks for making sweeping declarations and generalizations about people. That's really enlightened of you.
It certainly doesn't bother me. They don't get my money because I think they're assholes. The only one who loses is them. And no, card payment services and the iPhone platform are nothing remotely like "public accomodations." You have to sign a contract to get either, that's pretty much the antithesis of public and you haven't even used the damn thing.
If you don't like the ethical behavior of a corporation, take your business elsewhere.
I'm a queer male, I am as rabid a baseball fan as you will meet, and I can't stand musicals. I also drink Pabst from a can, Jim Beam from the bottle, and know how to gut a bird.
I'm queer. I'm nothing like the stereotype the original poster described. I still think you're being a whiner. I know a lot of gay men who are quite feminine and have do gorgeous homes. So fucking what? I don't think I'd offend any of them if I were to say that to their face. They are feminine. They do have nice homes. That's nothing to get offended about.
You would look at my long hair and scruffy beard and beat up laptop bag and probably think "There's a hippy longhaired computer guy." You'd be stereotyping. You'd also be right.
Just because not every member of a group conforms to a certain stereotype doesn't make that steotype totally invalid, nor does it, by itself, make it offesnive.
Are you queer? If you are, I'd gently suggest that maybe you should take a look at your self-esteem and why you would choose to get so bent out of shape at so mild a comment. If you're not, I'll thank you to stop getting all affronted on my behalf. I'm a big boy and can speak up for myself.
I am forced to agree. I despise Apple as an entity, and censorship as a concept. But yes, if Apple is taking the position that they will engage in censorship, then yeah, this does make sense.
I empathize with gay youth from the bottom of my heart. I was gay youth, and I lived in exactly the sort of place you describe. But that doesn't give me (or society collectively) the right to censor others to promote my views over theirs. I think if my moral positions couldn't stand up to outside criticism, up to and including outright offensive hate speech, then my moral positions suck.
For Christ's sake, man up. Are you really afraid of being out-debated by these people?
Using that logic, we should tolerate racist hate speech by the KKK
Indeed we should. That's why when they were putting together the Bill of Rights, they put that amendment first.
Don't misunderstand me, I abhor bigotry of all stripes without distinction. But if the Klan doesn't have the right to freedom of speech, then no one does. That's the whole fucking point. It's not just "freedom of speech we like."
Blowing my mod points over this, so you better at least reply;)
Being overweight is the result of poor choices. Yeah, it sucks when people get picked on for it, but it is an unhealthy condition that can be changed.
Very often not. Sometimes fat's just fat, sure. But there is definitely such a thing as a predisposition to obesity, which is quite distinct from just being fat.
Before you ask, I am a 6"0, late 20s male and I weigh 140 pounds, but I've got the metabolism of a hummingbird, I can put away 2500+ calories a day every day. My grandmother, before she passed, was a 5'5", 250+ pound woman (I've got no idea really, but grandma was a big lady), and she ate half as much as me, and certainly nothing remotely like the crap I eat.
Of course, sometimes a motherfucker's just fat. God damn, one time on the bus...never mind that.
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Hardware support? Seriously? You're saying the operating system that ships with more hardware drivers than any other operating system in the history of computing lacks hardware support? You are off your nut.
Software availability? What exactly does Windows ship with again?
Maybe I don't mind running 'sudo killall pulseaudio' every now and then when there's no sound playback - try explaining that to the common user.
Alsa is idiot-proof. You're ridiculous.
1. Osama bin Laden is a Saudi crown prince. It's not Osama bin Random Dude Off The Street. You can't hand-wave that away.
2. The Taliban at no time "refused to turn them over." They denied knowing their whereabouts and invited us to come in and verify that. We did so with cruise missiles.
Well, that depends on what kind of "complex task" you're talking about it. I find myself batch editing id3 tags constantly. Constantly. Easytag does it for me. OTOH, when I have to batch-edit images, it's imagemagick all the way.
Sorry if this is kind of a sidebar, but thinking about that just now, I think what makes Easytag good at what it does is that it's really several command-driven interfaces brought together in a graphical interface.
I don't have a point here, if you hadn't noticed.
Accessible to who? I wouldn't know where to start with Photoshop, but I could perform the mentioned task in Imagemagick in seconds (not counting processor time). Which is not to say that one is "better" or "worse," but that "accessibility" really varies depending on who's trying to access it.
tends to save a lot of time on the end user side of things.
Really? Let's delete a file. Let's say, ~/documents/foo.txt. Ready?
GUI:
* Alt-F2
* Type "dolphin," hit enter, Dolphin opens in ~
* Click the documents folder, then do one of the following:
** Click the plus sign on the foo.txt icon
** Hit delete
OR
** Right click the foo.txt icon
** Select "Move to trash"
THEN
* Right click the trash can
* Select "Empty trash"
Done!
Okay, now let's do it bash.
* rm ~/documents/foo.txt
Done!
Would you like to re-examine your statement?
emacs, GPL, red.
Sure, buddy. 15 Saudis, led by a Saudi royal prince, hijack planes and attack our country and we invade Afghanistan.
History.
(Not the OP)
I would argue that the US is in Afghanistan because of "global strategery." It happens to be a most convenient place for us to simultaneously keep an eye on Pakistan, Iran, Russia, and China. Look at a map.
Repeat after me, "The United States military is not a moral agent."
Now that I've installed oldbar I really like the new location bar functionality (although calling it the "Awesomebar" is still dumb). It keeps all the functionality, but displays results in a much more condensed, FF2 like fashion (hence the name), which is a lot nicer to work with when going through long lists of entries.
That's Evince, not "PDF viewers on Linux." Okular certainly doesn't do that. Y'know, for all the crap I hear about how slow and bloated KDE is, in my experience the application suite completely outperforms Gnome.
An anarchist wants government out of everything. A populist wants government to control everything. An actual liberal wants government to control business but not morality. An actual conservative wants the opposite.
You don't know what any of those words mean.
That's obviously untrue. This whole flamethread started with a first post by someone who was saying the GPL was morally wrong.
Why is it then that I'm looked at like an extra-terrestrial being when I tell people I pay for things?
Sure, not ALL of the money goes to the artists, but that's not within my control. Paying for the music gets the artist a piece of the pie while pirating gives them nothing.
I do both, and that itself discredits the idea that pirating "gives them nothing." For instance, I started getting more into classic rock and downloaded Billy Joel's discography (God knows how long ago, years). Since then I have purchased hard copies of pretty much every Billy Joel album I've been able to find, many in both CD and vinyl. I have bought about fifteen more albums than I otherwise would have right there. That is one example of many.
Yes, them too. But right now we're talking about Apple.
Okay, hang on. This started really poorly, and that's my fault, and I'm sorry. The culture of Slashdot really encourages argument, but I've got no call to be hostile with you. I'm sorry. Let me start again, because I do have some issues with some of the things you said, and I'd like to explain why a little better, and a little less like a prick. K?
My issue with your statements is that they seem to carry with them a couple implicit assumptions that I find really harmful. First, that femininity is a negative thing, I think I've already covered. But secondly, and just as important to me, is the assumption that queer people are weak and need defending. I find that much more offensive than somebody's jokes about furniture.
There are all kinds of queer people. Truck drivers and hackers and construction workers and, yes, interior designers, drag queens, dancers, and lots and lots of fantastic hair.
But you won't find any sissies here. Even the sissies aren't sissies. Hell, some of the gay men I know who portray themselves as the most feminine are some of the stone cold toughest people I've ever met, and real role models to me, both in their effectiveness as agents for change and as how they comport themselves as human beings in a mean ol' world and hold their heads high. Don't mess with a drag queen, they'll rip your balls off.
In all seriousness, if you want a safe stereotype, here's one: every single queer person you'll ever meet has been through more abuse, faced down more hate, and overcome more pain than most people can possibly imagine. We've been fighting a battle for civil rights for civil rights for fifty years, and we're winning. And we're gonna win. We don't need to be protected from jokes about furniture.
Again, I'm really sorry that I came at you with such hostility before. I hope you can look past that and see what I'm really trying to say here, and maybe from there we can have a more productive dialog.
So why try to shut down those who do object?
Has one self-identified queer in this entire discussion raised this issue? Has anyone objected? Or are you just choosing to be offended on other people's behalves?
For a stereotype to be a useful thing, it would have to be overwhelmingly accurate. When 98% of gay men
Did you ever take a statistics class? Do math.
are mincing, effeminate people obsessed with the colour of their sofa, then you can start generalising.
What the hell is this? Why do you consistently present femininity as a negative trait? I find that a little disgusting. Why do you consider this to be a negative stereotype, and why do you insist on externalizing that onto others?
Judging someone based on some arbitrary grouping you assign to them is offensive to me.
Welcome to America. You don't have the right to not be offended.
That you are gay gives you no greater or lesser authority to speak on another gay person's behalf or say whether or not other people should mind being pre-judged.
Of course not, that's obviously what you're here for.
Oh, and I didn't say gay. I said queer. But thanks for making sweeping declarations and generalizations about people. That's really enlightened of you.
allow me to burn purchased songs to CD's
This is stupid. No one's allowing you to do anything, and God knows if there was a way to stop you from doing that, they'd do it.
It certainly doesn't bother me. They don't get my money because I think they're assholes. The only one who loses is them. And no, card payment services and the iPhone platform are nothing remotely like "public accomodations." You have to sign a contract to get either, that's pretty much the antithesis of public and you haven't even used the damn thing.
If you don't like the ethical behavior of a corporation, take your business elsewhere.
I'm a queer male, I am as rabid a baseball fan as you will meet, and I can't stand musicals. I also drink Pabst from a can, Jim Beam from the bottle, and know how to gut a bird.
I'm queer. I'm nothing like the stereotype the original poster described. I still think you're being a whiner. I know a lot of gay men who are quite feminine and have do gorgeous homes. So fucking what? I don't think I'd offend any of them if I were to say that to their face. They are feminine. They do have nice homes. That's nothing to get offended about.
You would look at my long hair and scruffy beard and beat up laptop bag and probably think "There's a hippy longhaired computer guy." You'd be stereotyping. You'd also be right.
Just because not every member of a group conforms to a certain stereotype doesn't make that steotype totally invalid, nor does it, by itself, make it offesnive.
Are you queer? If you are, I'd gently suggest that maybe you should take a look at your self-esteem and why you would choose to get so bent out of shape at so mild a comment. If you're not, I'll thank you to stop getting all affronted on my behalf. I'm a big boy and can speak up for myself.
I am forced to agree. I despise Apple as an entity, and censorship as a concept. But yes, if Apple is taking the position that they will engage in censorship, then yeah, this does make sense.
I empathize with gay youth from the bottom of my heart. I was gay youth, and I lived in exactly the sort of place you describe. But that doesn't give me (or society collectively) the right to censor others to promote my views over theirs. I think if my moral positions couldn't stand up to outside criticism, up to and including outright offensive hate speech, then my moral positions suck.
For Christ's sake, man up. Are you really afraid of being out-debated by these people?
Using that logic, we should tolerate racist hate speech by the KKK
Indeed we should. That's why when they were putting together the Bill of Rights, they put that amendment first.
Don't misunderstand me, I abhor bigotry of all stripes without distinction. But if the Klan doesn't have the right to freedom of speech, then no one does. That's the whole fucking point. It's not just "freedom of speech we like."
Blowing my mod points over this, so you better at least reply ;)
Being overweight is the result of poor choices. Yeah, it sucks when people get picked on for it, but it is an unhealthy condition that can be changed.
Very often not. Sometimes fat's just fat, sure. But there is definitely such a thing as a predisposition to obesity, which is quite distinct from just being fat.
Before you ask, I am a 6"0, late 20s male and I weigh 140 pounds, but I've got the metabolism of a hummingbird, I can put away 2500+ calories a day every day. My grandmother, before she passed, was a 5'5", 250+ pound woman (I've got no idea really, but grandma was a big lady), and she ate half as much as me, and certainly nothing remotely like the crap I eat.
Of course, sometimes a motherfucker's just fat. God damn, one time on the bus...never mind that.