If someone else has to give you something, it's not a right. That's what a right means.
I think health care is certainly a social good that we should see to it that we all have because that's good for everybody, but that doesn't make it a "right."
It's really rather simple, and I think you already get it even if you'd rather pretend you didn't. You have the right to your food. You do not have the right to my food. Full stop.
As a legitimate consumer, I hate DRM with a burning passion because I'm the one getting punished for the actions of pirates, while pirates get to enjoy a DRM-free experience. I want to believe this is true
Well, it certainly is. You are getting punished, and pirates are not. That's certainly true from even the most cursory examination of the facts.
DRM-free games get pirated at about the same rate as DRM games.
That may also be true, but does not preclude the previous statement also being true.
Are you kidding? I just beat San Andreas last month. I then promptly went out and bought a used copy of Liberty City Stories, which, while I don't expect it to take me another six years to beat, will undoubtedly give me way more than my money's worth of play time.
Then there's stuff like Civ, which is pretty much infinitely replayable.
A lot of people say that - and not just about DRM - but in the end just go out and spend the money on the DRM infestation anyway
I don't know about "a lot of people," but certainly not me.
Sadly, simply selling games cheaper, DRM and all, would probably eliminate a huge percentage of the pirated game "problem". $50+ for a game? Obscene.
Really? I've got no problem paying $50 for a good game that I'll get hundreds of hours out of. I think that's a great deal, especially when you're looking at something like GTA4, where the production that goes into the game is pretty close to "Hollywood film" level, or Civ5, where the replay value is pretty much infinite. I paid $50 for the pre-release of Civ4, and played that fucker for hundreds of hours over four years. Probably broke down to $1/hr. Bargain.
But if a company refuses to sell me a product under terms which are agreeable to me (DRM-free, playable on Linux even if it's through Wine) then I'm just not interested.
I think you're an asshole. I even agree with your ultimate conclusion, but I still think you're an asshole.
If someone won't sell me something on terms (legal and technical) that are agreeable to me, I will not purchase their product. But I don't portray that as any sort of ethical decision, and if someone else takes a different slant on the issue, that's their decision.
A place where so many, incapable of creating anything themselves, yet capable of installing Linux (because the efforts of others better than us have made it more accessible) believe that the mere fact that they can install and use Linux entitles them to use it as a platform by which to be entertained, and then rationalize pirating the creations of others as a result.
For one thing, go fuck yourself. For another, how the hell do you know that GP is "incapable of creating anything," you self-righteous twat?
Finally, do you believe that media conglomerates (including those masquerading as technology companies) are entitled to their own set of bought laws? Do you believe that they are entitled to break the technology that we as hackers have spent our lives building? I don't. I don't recognize that legal authority and I certainly don't cede any such moral authority.
Careful, comrade, you are not being politically correct. Everybody knows that the solution to end the $1.6 trillion deficit is to cut the $700 billion military spending, while leaving the $800 billion health care and $700 billion social security spending intact.
Maybe that's what everyone knows, but maybe everyone doesn't know that if our government hadn't continually raided the Social Security fund for generations (for things like debt service and the military, among others) that shit would be paying for itself.
How is a flu virus not "passing by degrees to a different stage?" How is a domestic dog not going through "the sequence of events involved in evolutionary development?"
You don't get to redefine widely understood words just because they don't happen to fit your fairy tale worldview.
evolution
n 1: a process in which something passes by degrees to a
different stage (especially a more advanced or mature
stage); "the development of his ideas took many years";
"the evolution of Greek civilization"; "the slow
development of her skill as a writer" [syn: {development}]
[ant: {degeneration}]
2: (biology) the sequence of events involved in the
evolutionary development of a species or taxonomic group
of organisms [syn: {phylogeny}, {phylogenesis}]
Get a Mac. Some of us don't want a desktop that "only allows" anything. My computer should not "allow" me to do things, it should enable me to do what I want to do.
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Ick. Enough with the silver and the drop shadows, already. 2003 wasn't that cool in 2003.
it wouldn't automatically detect propriety graphics stuff for reasons that were explained to me only they sounded more like religious fundamentalism than actual usability
If by "religious fundamentalism," you mean "the law," then maybe you're kind of almost correct. If you've got a problem with the support for proprietary software in Linux, you should by all means bring that up with the company whose property that software is.
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If someone else has to give you something, it's not a right. That's what a right means.
I think health care is certainly a social good that we should see to it that we all have because that's good for everybody, but that doesn't make it a "right."
(I am not the OP.)
It's really rather simple, and I think you already get it even if you'd rather pretend you didn't. You have the right to your food. You do not have the right to my food. Full stop.
Okay, I'll buy that analogy. WINNER!
this is more like the kid who got bullied finally standing up to the bully.
Um. This is more like...well, something completely unlike that.
Anyone fighting the US could use this information to help formulate their strategies should they chose to engage.
Anyone fighting the US is already quite aware of this information. Because they're fighting the US.
No, but I must have skipped typing. That should have read "$1."
As a legitimate consumer, I hate DRM with a burning passion because I'm the one getting punished for the actions of pirates, while pirates get to enjoy a DRM-free experience. I want to believe this is true
Well, it certainly is. You are getting punished, and pirates are not. That's certainly true from even the most cursory examination of the facts.
DRM-free games get pirated at about the same rate as DRM games.
That may also be true, but does not preclude the previous statement also being true.
Are you kidding? I just beat San Andreas last month. I then promptly went out and bought a used copy of Liberty City Stories, which, while I don't expect it to take me another six years to beat, will undoubtedly give me way more than my money's worth of play time.
Then there's stuff like Civ, which is pretty much infinitely replayable.
Are you just playing shitty games?
A lot of people say that - and not just about DRM - but in the end just go out and spend the money on the DRM infestation anyway
I don't know about "a lot of people," but certainly not me.
Sadly, simply selling games cheaper, DRM and all, would probably eliminate a huge percentage of the pirated game "problem". $50+ for a game? Obscene.
Really? I've got no problem paying $50 for a good game that I'll get hundreds of hours out of. I think that's a great deal, especially when you're looking at something like GTA4, where the production that goes into the game is pretty close to "Hollywood film" level, or Civ5, where the replay value is pretty much infinite. I paid $50 for the pre-release of Civ4, and played that fucker for hundreds of hours over four years. Probably broke down to $1/hr. Bargain.
But if a company refuses to sell me a product under terms which are agreeable to me (DRM-free, playable on Linux even if it's through Wine) then I'm just not interested.
I think you're an asshole. I even agree with your ultimate conclusion, but I still think you're an asshole.
If someone won't sell me something on terms (legal and technical) that are agreeable to me, I will not purchase their product. But I don't portray that as any sort of ethical decision, and if someone else takes a different slant on the issue, that's their decision.
A place where so many, incapable of creating anything themselves, yet capable of installing Linux (because the efforts of others better than us have made it more accessible) believe that the mere fact that they can install and use Linux entitles them to use it as a platform by which to be entertained, and then rationalize pirating the creations of others as a result.
For one thing, go fuck yourself. For another, how the hell do you know that GP is "incapable of creating anything," you self-righteous twat?
Finally, do you believe that media conglomerates (including those masquerading as technology companies) are entitled to their own set of bought laws? Do you believe that they are entitled to break the technology that we as hackers have spent our lives building? I don't. I don't recognize that legal authority and I certainly don't cede any such moral authority.
How about a generation ship, there are perfectly workable designs for that.
Name two.
Careful, comrade, you are not being politically correct. Everybody knows that the solution to end the $1.6 trillion deficit is to cut the $700 billion military spending, while leaving the $800 billion health care and $700 billion social security spending intact.
Maybe that's what everyone knows, but maybe everyone doesn't know that if our government hadn't continually raided the Social Security fund for generations (for things like debt service and the military, among others) that shit would be paying for itself.
Took a couple generations to learn to fly too. For that matter, we're only ~40 years into microcomputers. Nothing's realistic until you do it.
How is a flu virus not "passing by degrees to a different stage?" How is a domestic dog not going through "the sequence of events involved in evolutionary development?"
You don't get to redefine widely understood words just because they don't happen to fit your fairy tale worldview.
My girlfriend got me to watch a couple of her videos. She's actually fairly good, and I'm not a fan of the genre.
evolution
n 1: a process in which something passes by degrees to a
different stage (especially a more advanced or mature
stage); "the development of his ideas took many years";
"the evolution of Greek civilization"; "the slow
development of her skill as a writer" [syn: {development}]
[ant: {degeneration}]
2: (biology) the sequence of events involved in the
evolutionary development of a species or taxonomic group
of organisms [syn: {phylogeny}, {phylogenesis}]
i lol'd
I pray that a teacher will actually question the so called science of evolution, as something not observable or repeatable.
Dude, are you on crack? We observe the influenza virus repeatedly evolving about two or three times every single year. Keep praying.
Use Fluxbox then. Jesus Christ, chill.
Get a Mac. Some of us don't want a desktop that "only allows" anything. My computer should not "allow" me to do things, it should enable me to do what I want to do.
Ick. Enough with the silver and the drop shadows, already. 2003 wasn't that cool in 2003.
Shut the fuck up.
Oh, the division of Microsoft that's barely begun to break even after ten fucking years? Yeah, I've heard of them.
The desktop still dominates every other category of computing combined.
Name two.
it wouldn't automatically detect propriety graphics stuff for reasons that were explained to me only they sounded more like religious fundamentalism than actual usability
If by "religious fundamentalism," you mean "the law," then maybe you're kind of almost correct. If you've got a problem with the support for proprietary software in Linux, you should by all means bring that up with the company whose property that software is.