FYI, although the US Postal Service does receive some federal money, it is not a government agency. It is not the job of the Congress to "keep the post office viable."
Chess is a tactical competition where two opposing sides must utilize resources with different strengths and weakness, protect multiple fronts, and make strategic sacrifices, including faints and deceptions to attempt to annihilate one another.
Nope Chrome has Google behind pushing it and Google is pushing Apps in Chrome! Firefox isn't a real threat because there is no multi billion dollar company pushing it hard.
This doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Mozilla has been eating Microsoft's lunch in the browser space for the better part of a decade. Hell, we're well past being "a real threat," and looking seriously at "driving IE into the sea."
Why? Because they were lied to and told (by entities like Facebook, among others) that "the cloud" was a good, safe, convenient place to put that stuff? Because they believed what they were told? Because they're not educated on the topic like we are?
That's such an asshole thing to say I don't even know how to respond. People are kept ignorant, dependent, and in the dark by forces larger and more powerful than they. They need help, not disdain. Take your snide comments and gtfo.
The teabaggers did it. It worked. You might not like them (I generally don't), but I'd say it would behoove us all to take a serious look at what they're doing that we're not doing.
and the WinTel side of the PC world is pretty good at planned obsolescence as well. In fact I don't think I've ever owned a computer that after 3 years would run the latest software without dragging like a donkey. And the hardware upgrades to get to that point almost always seemed to run just a little slower with all of the latest and "greatest" software than the previous iteration.
Shit, man. Run Linux. (Sez the guy who's retiring his Pentium D desktop next month after five years of good service.)
Are you still bashing your head against Kubuntu? Jesus, you've gotta stop hurting yourself like that, it's unhealthy. The last time I had segfaults in Dolphin or plasma-desktop was probably about two years ago (4.3?).
KPackageKit has historically been a clusterfuck. Whatever version they shipped with Kubuntu 10.10 seems to be a pretty big improvement, but I still wouldn't trust it to manage my system.
With that as a given, anything that a n00b user (count me out) can't find quickly, is lost on that user.
That. Is. Not. True.
If you insist on babying people, they will act like babies. And if you think people can't be taught, you're a bigot. I have met a great many "computer ignorant" people in my life, but I have never once met someone who was "stupid." Ignorance can be fixed. Have some respect for people, for Christ's sake.
I use KDE exclusively. Nothing ever crashes. Ever.
No, I take that back. The flash plugin in Konqueror goes down like the Hindenburg, every fucking time. But it doesn't even take the browser with it. (I do use Firefox as my main browser, partially because of this.)
KDE needs to be heavily customized to make it usable for the Joe Public end users.
In my experience that's untrue. I sell KDE desktops to "Joe (and Jane) Public," and I ship vanilla KDE except for my custom color scheme and logo. People seem quite pleased. What customizations would you make?
Well, that's easy. I don't remember the directory path right now (I'm at work), but maybe it's something like/var/cache/pacman/somethingorother, all the old package files are right there. I've had to go back there a couple times, but that's about the extent of the headaches I've ever had.
Exactly, and exactly why I'm signing up for an invite. Because Facebook is disgusting. Farmville makes me puke in my mouth. The user interface has become an abomination before the lord. And I don't give two pickled shits about absolutely anything that was ever on my wall for basically the last year and a half before I finally closed my account in disgust.
I have no truck with Facebook, or its average users. This looks better.
Seriously? You're going to look at Gnome 2.3 and KDE 4.5 and call them "half done betaware" and not a "complete solution?" As far as I am aware, they are the only "complete solutions" presently being offered in desktop software, for free or not. Every other vendor out there (by which I mean, of course, Microsoft and Apple) offer piecemeal half-assed stuff that you buy seperately and pray it all plays nice together. Use Windows 7 out of the box, then go KDE out of the box, and come talk to me about "half done."
Man, I wish KOffice worked "just fine" for me. I really like it, I like what they're doing with the UI, it's a generally much nicer experience than OOo (especially on KDE). But the 2.x line is still erratically buggy, fairly crashy, and has major problems translating OOo's files (especially OOo Draw files). I'm also dimly aware of dissatisfaction with it's handling of MS Office files, but I don't really care about that.
Again, I do like KOffice, and I've got high hopes for future versions. I'm running a 2.3 development version right now, because it's a lot more stable than the "stable" 2.2. But that's a good sign, as far as I'm concerned. I hope the trend continues.
I call bullshit. You may use any license you wish for your work. But if you're going to use our work, you're damn well going to play ball or you can go fuck yourself and write your own code.
It's free speech. Sometimes it's even free beer. But it's not a free ride. Freeloader.
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CNN?! Far left? Are you on fucking crack?
FYI, although the US Postal Service does receive some federal money, it is not a government agency. It is not the job of the Congress to "keep the post office viable."
Chess is a tactical competition where two opposing sides must utilize resources with different strengths and weakness, protect multiple fronts, and make strategic sacrifices, including faints and deceptions to attempt to annihilate one another.
How is baseball not all of these things as well?
Nope Chrome has Google behind pushing it and Google is pushing Apps in Chrome! Firefox isn't a real threat because there is no multi billion dollar company pushing it hard.
This doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Mozilla has been eating Microsoft's lunch in the browser space for the better part of a decade. Hell, we're well past being "a real threat," and looking seriously at "driving IE into the sea."
Why? Because they were lied to and told (by entities like Facebook, among others) that "the cloud" was a good, safe, convenient place to put that stuff? Because they believed what they were told? Because they're not educated on the topic like we are?
That's such an asshole thing to say I don't even know how to respond. People are kept ignorant, dependent, and in the dark by forces larger and more powerful than they. They need help, not disdain. Take your snide comments and gtfo.
And the horse you rode in on.
he has become the Chicken Little of geekdom.
[citation needed]
From where I sit, he's been on the money every damn time since the seventies. Usually five to ten years early.
1. Raise some money
2. Get in the goddamn street
The teabaggers did it. It worked. You might not like them (I generally don't), but I'd say it would behoove us all to take a serious look at what they're doing that we're not doing.
...diplomatic relationships are now shattered across the world.
[citation desperately needed]
Right now go look through your IM logs, text logs, and emails, between you and your friends and figure out just how damning some of them are.
Government is not a person. Come on, this isn't a complex distinction to make, don't be disingenuous.
and the WinTel side of the PC world is pretty good at planned obsolescence as well. In fact I don't think I've ever owned a computer that after 3 years would run the latest software without dragging like a donkey. And the hardware upgrades to get to that point almost always seemed to run just a little slower with all of the latest and "greatest" software than the previous iteration.
Shit, man. Run Linux. (Sez the guy who's retiring his Pentium D desktop next month after five years of good service.)
You are not normal. Most folks' last phone was free.
I believe the GP's question was "Is there any evidence?" It sounds like your answer is no.
Are you still bashing your head against Kubuntu? Jesus, you've gotta stop hurting yourself like that, it's unhealthy. The last time I had segfaults in Dolphin or plasma-desktop was probably about two years ago (4.3?).
KPackageKit has historically been a clusterfuck. Whatever version they shipped with Kubuntu 10.10 seems to be a pretty big improvement, but I still wouldn't trust it to manage my system.
With that as a given, anything that a n00b user (count me out) can't find quickly, is lost on that user.
That. Is. Not. True.
If you insist on babying people, they will act like babies. And if you think people can't be taught, you're a bigot. I have met a great many "computer ignorant" people in my life, but I have never once met someone who was "stupid." Ignorance can be fixed. Have some respect for people, for Christ's sake.
I use KDE exclusively. Nothing ever crashes. Ever.
No, I take that back. The flash plugin in Konqueror goes down like the Hindenburg, every fucking time. But it doesn't even take the browser with it. (I do use Firefox as my main browser, partially because of this.)
"Cluttered?!" You obviously haven't even seen a screenshot of KDE 4, have you?
Okay, I will.
KDE needs to be heavily customized to make it usable for the Joe Public end users.
In my experience that's untrue. I sell KDE desktops to "Joe (and Jane) Public," and I ship vanilla KDE except for my custom color scheme and logo. People seem quite pleased. What customizations would you make?
The thing is, each distribution does it different
Examples, please.
Well, that's easy. I don't remember the directory path right now (I'm at work), but maybe it's something like /var/cache/pacman/somethingorother, all the old package files are right there. I've had to go back there a couple times, but that's about the extent of the headaches I've ever had.
Exactly, and exactly why I'm signing up for an invite. Because Facebook is disgusting. Farmville makes me puke in my mouth. The user interface has become an abomination before the lord. And I don't give two pickled shits about absolutely anything that was ever on my wall for basically the last year and a half before I finally closed my account in disgust.
I have no truck with Facebook, or its average users. This looks better.
Seriously? You're going to look at Gnome 2.3 and KDE 4.5 and call them "half done betaware" and not a "complete solution?" As far as I am aware, they are the only "complete solutions" presently being offered in desktop software, for free or not. Every other vendor out there (by which I mean, of course, Microsoft and Apple) offer piecemeal half-assed stuff that you buy seperately and pray it all plays nice together. Use Windows 7 out of the box, then go KDE out of the box, and come talk to me about "half done."
Because god knows it wouldn't be a thread about the free desktop without a "OH NOES I'M PARALYZED BY CHOICE" troll...
Man, I wish KOffice worked "just fine" for me. I really like it, I like what they're doing with the UI, it's a generally much nicer experience than OOo (especially on KDE). But the 2.x line is still erratically buggy, fairly crashy, and has major problems translating OOo's files (especially OOo Draw files). I'm also dimly aware of dissatisfaction with it's handling of MS Office files, but I don't really care about that.
Again, I do like KOffice, and I've got high hopes for future versions. I'm running a 2.3 development version right now, because it's a lot more stable than the "stable" 2.2. But that's a good sign, as far as I'm concerned. I hope the trend continues.
That's fine, go live in the fucking past. Some of us think the desktop's not done.
It sucks, and its application stack sucks.
I call bullshit. You may use any license you wish for your work. But if you're going to use our work, you're damn well going to play ball or you can go fuck yourself and write your own code.
It's free speech. Sometimes it's even free beer. But it's not a free ride. Freeloader.
That's right. GPL restricts your personal freedom to restrict others' personal freedom. That's the whole point.