I get around in it fine, because I know it's quirks. But it's unsearchable unless you already know what you want, in which case you wouldn't be searching, the "categories" are pretty much useless, and I find it very visually unappealing (YMMV, of course).
Plasma Desktop, Plasma Netbook, and Plasma Active (Plasma for mobile devices) are completely separate projects. The desktop is by no means being "abandoned in favor of mobile toys."
You obviously want Linux Mint. It's not my cup of tea (I use Arch because I enjoy building my own system), but I've heard nothing but good things about Mint.
seems to me a more likely reason for dropping Synaptic is that the marketing minds behind Ubuntu are gradually eliminating support for those pesky power users.
The reason for dropping Synaptic is probably that Synaptic fucking blows.
Having the power to efficiently and directly do what I need to with as few keystrokes/clicks as possible, and avoiding being forced to use a series of dumbed-down and limited tools that automatically assume you're ignorant and stupid is why I chose to use Linux over Windows in the first place.
So you're obviously using Aptitude, and you shouldn't care one way or the other.
Any more dumbing down of Ubuntu and I for one will be dropping it.
Okay. If it doesn't meet your needs, I'm sure another distro would. I switched to Arch about three years ago and haven't looked back.
I've encountered at least one teen who was "Technologically ignorant/apathetic/intolerant" - shall we start substituting "teens" for "grandma"?
Absolutely. I commonly find that people in the generation younger than my own (I'm almost 30) are often far more "Technologically ignorant/apathetic/intolerant" than people of my own generation or older. I attribute this to the endless march to dumb down technology. People who grew up on cellphones and Macs have an entirely different mindset towards technology than people who grew up with floppy disks and Apple IIs.
I am a huge Ubuntu-basher (as a cursory examination of my comment history will show), but I disagree with you here. Synaptic fucking sucks. Of the two uses for a package manager (browsing unknown packages and installing known packages), Synaptic does neither well. It's a really terrible interface for browsing, and if you're not browsing and already know what you want to install, why bother using Synaptic at all? Software Center is a vastly superior browsing interface.
I agree with that, but I think medical marijuana laws are a bad way to go about it. Everyone knows it's duplicitous, it's not about medicinal uses for the vast majority of cases, it's about getting high, so let's just legalize getting high and be done with it.
You have (perhaps unwittingly) come upon a major reason for the recent push for marijuana prohibition repeal. More and more marijuana is grown in America. Mexican drug cartels no longer dominate the market, because they can't match the quality of the marijuana coming from local growers. The economics of marijuana have changed drastically in the last twenty years.
No one who has to run for reelection wants to be seen as soft on crime and drugs and that's EXACTLY what they'll be seen as if they vote for this thing to move it out of committee.
I see what you're saying, and I think you're right (more's the pity), but it's high time (heh, I made a punny) that we started to fight back against that perception. Get these idiotic prohibition laws off our books and our law enforcement would perhaps actually have more time and resources to, you know, fight some fucking crime.
I know a couple deputy-level police officers, and they hate this shit. Believe it or not, most cops didn't grow up saying "Gee dad, when I grow up I want to put harmless potheads in prison!" Most cops are decent folks trying to do a good job in their community. Repealing prohibition will help them do that.
In short, we need to stop letting the Drug Warriors dictate the terms of the conversation.
I upgraded to Firefox 5 on Arch this morning, and I can report that out of my 13 add-ons, 0 broke. Actually this is the first time that's ever gone so smoothly for me. Going from 3 to 4 was rough.
Wrong. If you use the Mozilla tarball, it will auto-update itself using Firefox's built-in updater. Distro-packaged binaries typically have that disabled for obvious reasons.
Oops, sorry, I double-clutched on the post button. I was going to add that that's pretty much how all the big projects work. The idea that free software is all done by college kids and hobbyists is just not the case. Look at all the people who are involved in the Gnome Foundation, for instance.
Every company who has sponsorship or other stake in one of the zillion Linux distros that immediately switched to LibreOffice, and every company that uses those distros on the desktop.
It wasn't Sun either, why don't you just admit that the Open Source Community's attitude is what keeps "viable communities" for "insert FOSS project" from succeeding.
You may not have noticed (what with your blinding freedom-hating and all) but LibreOffice is succeeding where Sun failed. World domination proceeding on schedule, please and thank you.
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I get around in it fine, because I know it's quirks. But it's unsearchable unless you already know what you want, in which case you wouldn't be searching, the "categories" are pretty much useless, and I find it very visually unappealing (YMMV, of course).
Plasma Desktop, Plasma Netbook, and Plasma Active (Plasma for mobile devices) are completely separate projects. The desktop is by no means being "abandoned in favor of mobile toys."
The fuck are you talking about? Was there a time when it didn't?
You obviously want Linux Mint. It's not my cup of tea (I use Arch because I enjoy building my own system), but I've heard nothing but good things about Mint.
At least also provide a DVD image.
Ubuntu does provide DVD images.
seems to me a more likely reason for dropping Synaptic is that the marketing minds behind Ubuntu are gradually eliminating support for those pesky power users.
The reason for dropping Synaptic is probably that Synaptic fucking blows.
Having the power to efficiently and directly do what I need to with as few keystrokes/clicks as possible, and avoiding being forced to use a series of dumbed-down and limited tools that automatically assume you're ignorant and stupid is why I chose to use Linux over Windows in the first place.
So you're obviously using Aptitude, and you shouldn't care one way or the other.
Any more dumbing down of Ubuntu and I for one will be dropping it.
Okay. If it doesn't meet your needs, I'm sure another distro would. I switched to Arch about three years ago and haven't looked back.
That's Ubuntu for you. If you don't like it, find another distro. There are plenty.
When I was still a regular Debian/Ubuntu/whatever guy, I found the aptitude ncurses interface far more friendly than Synaptic.
I've encountered at least one teen who was "Technologically ignorant/apathetic/intolerant" - shall we start substituting "teens" for "grandma"?
Absolutely. I commonly find that people in the generation younger than my own (I'm almost 30) are often far more "Technologically ignorant/apathetic/intolerant" than people of my own generation or older. I attribute this to the endless march to dumb down technology. People who grew up on cellphones and Macs have an entirely different mindset towards technology than people who grew up with floppy disks and Apple IIs.
I am a huge Ubuntu-basher (as a cursory examination of my comment history will show), but I disagree with you here. Synaptic fucking sucks. Of the two uses for a package manager (browsing unknown packages and installing known packages), Synaptic does neither well. It's a really terrible interface for browsing, and if you're not browsing and already know what you want to install, why bother using Synaptic at all? Software Center is a vastly superior browsing interface.
Heroin never killed anybody. Cocaine didn't shoot anybody in the face. PCP didn't cut anyone's throat. Drugs don't kill anyone.
Horseshit. Get stupid dope laws off the books and our police might actually have the time and resources to, y'know, fight some fucking crime.
I agree with that, but I think medical marijuana laws are a bad way to go about it. Everyone knows it's duplicitous, it's not about medicinal uses for the vast majority of cases, it's about getting high, so let's just legalize getting high and be done with it.
Why do you have more rights in the "public space" than smokers?
Nicotine is a drug.
You have (perhaps unwittingly) come upon a major reason for the recent push for marijuana prohibition repeal. More and more marijuana is grown in America. Mexican drug cartels no longer dominate the market, because they can't match the quality of the marijuana coming from local growers. The economics of marijuana have changed drastically in the last twenty years.
A much better way to show your support is by contacting your representative directly.
No one who has to run for reelection wants to be seen as soft on crime and drugs and that's EXACTLY what they'll be seen as if they vote for this thing to move it out of committee.
I see what you're saying, and I think you're right (more's the pity), but it's high time (heh, I made a punny) that we started to fight back against that perception. Get these idiotic prohibition laws off our books and our law enforcement would perhaps actually have more time and resources to, you know, fight some fucking crime.
I know a couple deputy-level police officers, and they hate this shit. Believe it or not, most cops didn't grow up saying "Gee dad, when I grow up I want to put harmless potheads in prison!" Most cops are decent folks trying to do a good job in their community. Repealing prohibition will help them do that.
In short, we need to stop letting the Drug Warriors dictate the terms of the conversation.
Blah blah blah shut the fuck up and don't read it then. You're driving the mouse.
Coca cola and Warcraft are not a mind-altering substances.
That's a pretty ignorant statement.
I upgraded to Firefox 5 on Arch this morning, and I can report that out of my 13 add-ons, 0 broke. Actually this is the first time that's ever gone so smoothly for me. Going from 3 to 4 was rough.
Wrong. If you use the Mozilla tarball, it will auto-update itself using Firefox's built-in updater. Distro-packaged binaries typically have that disabled for obvious reasons.
Aw. Facts are hard, huh?
Oops, sorry, I double-clutched on the post button. I was going to add that that's pretty much how all the big projects work. The idea that free software is all done by college kids and hobbyists is just not the case. Look at all the people who are involved in the Gnome Foundation, for instance.
Every company who has sponsorship or other stake in one of the zillion Linux distros that immediately switched to LibreOffice, and every company that uses those distros on the desktop.
It wasn't Sun either, why don't you just admit that the Open Source Community's attitude is what keeps "viable communities" for "insert FOSS project" from succeeding.
You may not have noticed (what with your blinding freedom-hating and all) but LibreOffice is succeeding where Sun failed. World domination proceeding on schedule, please and thank you.