This is why your argument for "non-commercial" duplication and distribution is deemed to fail, it's a brave new world out there were the individual has gained a tremendous amount of publishing power, more than anyone could have ever dreamed
But, non-commercial is the whole point. And since you've taken it this far, I get to bring up the other big point "promoting the arts and sciences." This is the whole reason for any type of copyright protection and it is being abused horribly by those who use it. The question is becoming how much of our privacy and right to use digital artifacts overrides the right of the artist to control it. The digital medium allows for huge distribution at almost no cost. By protecting the ultimate right to distribute to the copyright holder (which, BTW, is rarely an artist) you are subsidizing the value of that product. All of the value comes from the protection of the government that we pay for (FBI warnings in front of motion pictures). All the protection should be based on a profit/no-profit situation, or we will be subsidizing life +95 years monopolies to people who can change anything they want for a product that cost nothing to reproduce. And our government will be protecting them with our money to help the products we buy cost more, and have a cost that HAS NO REAL WORLD TIES to its value.
Digital media makes for a different situation.
For a fuller explanation of my position (and the reason I fuckin' hate the attitude of the RIAA) click on the.sig
(now I'm gonna go home and watch the testimony) --
y'know I kinda justify my Net surfing at work with the fact that I am an "information" worker, and thus work best when surrounded by vast amounts of intel. And, uh, I read/. (etc.) to, hmm, stay current with, uhm, new tech trends. And the URLs I forward home to post on my site, well, that's umm, uh, err, personal.
Ah well, off to do more research.
If your average laborer from the last century looked at what I physically did for the day and what my paycheque looked like, he wouldn't have stress, he'd have a heart attack. --
The hammer bounces off the screen, smacks the blond bimbo is the face, and millions of people realize that just because a computer smiles at you, that doesn't mean it is nice. --
Couple this with the Chinese attitude toward fine print; "contemptuous" might be too fine a word for it. The kind of "licensing" championed by western "shrinkwrap" is utterly foreign to the Chinese mentality. As far as a Chinese consumer is concerned, if he buys a copy of Windows, it's his. No shrinkwrap license is going to convince him he can't install the thing wherever, whenever, and how ever often he wants.
This makes damn near everyone who agrees with hardcore EULA's look like a blathering idiot. Hmm, hates fine print, likes to (re-)install OSes on multiple machines, sounds like that guy I see in the mirror every morning.
I mean seriously, how many EULA's have you read? I've read *maybe* 10, and clicked through....maybe 5,000. The Fine Print is a wierd phenomenon, I can't think of an important document I've signed since uni that didn't have a ton of it. I guess it is a natural extension of property law (and China seems to take the easy way out of that one), which would also explain why it's such a chore for software. Changing an infinite product into a scarce one requires LOTS of fine print. --
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um About the crack situation..
(execution for posession seems an effective deterrent), and thus it can't readily kill. That's all.
You just contradicted yourself. Looks like a 100% fatality rate to me.
And for you greenies in the crowd... (complete with programming realism)
"RALPH NADER--"RICH MEDIA, POOR DEMOCRACY is more than a prolonged wake-up call; it shames those who do nothing and motivates~ validation-form-field.description_0001: ~ those who are trying to build a more democ ratic media that reflects the all-important noncommercial values which forge a just society." --
Why are there so many young kids being so destructive?
Teen angst, here in America it's a national pasttime. National pride might be another reason. The need to feel powerful is especially prevalent in testoserone laden males, etc...
What I'd like to know is why the programmers creating these scripts don't keep them to themselves...
Security through obscurity doesn't work. By lowering the level of intelligence you need to crack a box, the more likely it'll happen, the more demand you need for IPsec, the more IPsec professionals get paid.
That's the cynical response. The more rational one would be that keepng the holes secret, keeps the holes secret, anyone can use them, but those most likely to find/use them will be black-ats. If all the holes are public, the pressure and responsibility to fill them falls squarely on the person with the hole. And so the world keeps spinning. --
She began with a favourable attitude toward educational computing but came reluctantly to the conclusion that computers stifle learning and creativity and may cause damage to both vision and posture.
To read the article I had to lean forward in my chair and squint to compensate for the micro-font they used. When this became painful I no longer wanted to learn about how computers don't help learning, but couldn't think of anything else to do, so I posted this.
Can you afford to run 1,000 simultaneous downloads/streaming of a 7MB news MPG?
No, but I can afford a link to one that does.
You and I, for instance could not even aford to run Slashdot from our homes. Sure we could run something more watered down, but would it be interesting enough?
Given Moore's Law, and the similar one that seems to be covering bandwidth, I don't see too much problem running a fairly large and interesting media source out of one's home. Given the ability to replicate news sources and link to content, the media landscape can become quite varied. There will always be the AOSheep, and the ones that just like it, but it will be much, much easier to diverge from the mainstream and chill in the eddys.
The largest dangers to a varied (i.e. good) media, 1) legislation , 2) the hardware solution (TW giving AOL packets higher priority/blocking other ISP traffic), 3) legislation.
(and of course the whole Napster/DeCSS/DVD/Copyright/IP thing)
As this Open Media thing gets started, more and more people will find their niche, but most of the older ones will have their cracks too deep in their couch grooves to escape. I think this is already happening to some extent. The major networks have realized that retaining younger viewers is just too expensive (they can't compete with the rampant creativity of the Natalie Portman set) and will concentrate on their Boomers. When the boomers are gone, so will most of the Old Media's power. Except that by then all the smart money will have shifted anyway, and we'll have a new boss, just like the old boss. But we won't get fooled again, that's for sure...:-) --
And what helped Microsoft get outed for this chapter.....Oracle hiring shady private investigators. It was good to see that story of the cover of USAToday, if only to bring the realization that "grassroots efforts" to support stock prices are, shall we say, unethical. And the "grassroots efforts" to expose the other GRE's are about the same.
Just makes you wanna chuck it all and code for free, eh? Or code to free, as the case may be. --
In any case, US intelligence has made US corps aware of bribery and corruption that is so often rampant in the markets they are trying to enter. Do you have any evidence that they have received any information that would give them an unfair competitive advantage, like trade secrets or business plans?
*cough*
Knowing what bribes are taking place are trade secrets and business plans. And there are reports of actions like this, google a bit. How do you think we paid for Echelon?
Cancer is not simply mutation - a cancer starts off as a cell that does not know when to stop reproducing because it has no growth inhibitors in its genome.
So wouldn't that make fscking with growth inhibitors (like the giant mice folks did) very dangerous?
I know we are talking about two different things here, but aren't they just removing a naturally evolved protection against mutation caused by unchecked growth? --
the katz bashing for this article should be on a lack of frickin' links or detail. All blurry no slurry.
other than that..
"Corporate Republic" WTF??? "Yahoo Serious"?? These words don't really make sense together...Such a thing doesn't exist.
Republic = "a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law"
A "corporate republic" would be one in which the representatives are elected by corporations and not people (although corporations are often considered people, so that's how you jump over the line). This is very much the type of government that is growing in the world. This is why the media (The fourth estate,the public press)....
hrmmmm, since I got a minute...
Carlyle's definition of the fourth estate However, from the perspective of those researchers who see the media as situated within the model of a pluralist liberal democracy, the mass media are often seen as fulfilling the vitally important rôle of fourth estate, the guardians of democracy, defenders of the public interest.
....is so important. Now, if you move into the corporate republic example, you see that, yup most mass media supports the "public" (read corporate) interest. Often this is because they are or at least part of, the corporations in question. A bit of a media rant, but that's where a lot of the corporate republic get's it's basis, and where it is most evident.
Most of it does lead to conspiracy theory, and when you talk (conspiracy theory+government/industry)*$$$ you get lots of hits and comments.
He is comparing Capitalism to the Measles in the fourth paragraph!! How many people died from the measles worldwide! Measles is a horrifying desease... This type of emotion-evoking yet utterly meaningless comparison has no place in a technology journal.
"Technology journal"??!?!?! You need to set your threshhold to -1 and read some trolls for a while. If anything,/. has a become a technological society cultural journal (that'll raise the Katz index of this thread a bit), in that it is more about the culture, or maybe it is a culture, reproducing madly in CT's petri server. And everyone uses fear tactics, and every form of government has a price.
To top things off with a cherry, he includes hackers and programmers in with his list of "threatened" individualists.
"What in this country isn't for sale?" Certainly Katz's own book would be included in the "for sale" category?
Rights and markets are what's for sale. The reason hackers and programmers are involved is both because of Katz, and because they share the plight of having their territory overrun by corporations and the laws they require to function. Virtual farmers seeing tremendous roadblacks to the viability of independant business being erected at a scary pace. The right to figure out how something works, or god forbid, fix it. Those are the rights that are being "sold" (or bought, if you prefer) That's the link.
Anyway, just a bit of Independance Day rant. Time to barbecue and start forest fires. (note: this is a joke about the fact that where I live, it is both hot, dry, wooded, and the day of the year when fireworks are real popular. And we had a fire about two weeks ago that nearly burned down a few friends' houses. Happy 4th!!!)
Yea, I remember, it was just like Elian. NBC/CBS/CNN had 24-hour news coverage, choppers, the whole nine yards. Oh wait, those were McDonald's commercials
Is it any wonder why the "look at this idiot for a month" media has taken over? --
I'm curious how this information will be used differently given different styles of medical care (looked at from the East/West angle) in various regions of the world. Western medicine has focused on nature, that is, the physical representation of a disease, finding systems, bacteria, etc, while (to me) Eastern medicine is more about looking at the nurture of a disease, or, to be more precise, the environment in which it exists.
Now, we have the genome. This would seem to be the Holy Grail of Western medicine. But how does it figure into the more holistic or behavioural medicine?
This whole thing is going to be very important, a certain persistent level of discussion and attention is warranted. And that's for everyone, not just geeks. Does anyone have (or heard) a good "layman's" perspective, i.e. from one who hasn't followed the Genome project's progress. What does Joe Six Pack think about this? --
...it's a good thing the Natives of this land could put together one of them space rocket thingies. They've been worshipping the sky for ages, now it's time to get up all in that.
oh, wait, not for 5 years. Guess it's back to the bar.... --
Slashdot Mirror
This is why your argument for "non-commercial" duplication and distribution is deemed to fail, it's a brave new world out there were the individual has gained a tremendous amount of publishing power, more than anyone could have ever dreamed
.sig
But, non-commercial is the whole point. And since you've taken it this far, I get to bring up the other big point "promoting the arts and sciences." This is the whole reason for any type of copyright protection and it is being abused horribly by those who use it. The question is becoming how much of our privacy and right to use digital artifacts overrides the right of the artist to control it. The digital medium allows for huge distribution at almost no cost. By protecting the ultimate right to distribute to the copyright holder (which, BTW, is rarely an artist) you are subsidizing the value of that product. All of the value comes from the protection of the government that we pay for (FBI warnings in front of motion pictures). All the protection should be based on a profit/no-profit situation, or we will be subsidizing life +95 years monopolies to people who can change anything they want for a product that cost nothing to reproduce. And our government will be protecting them with our money to help the products we buy cost more, and have a cost that HAS NO REAL WORLD TIES to its value.
Digital media makes for a different situation.
For a fuller explanation of my position (and the reason I fuckin' hate the attitude of the RIAA) click on the
(now I'm gonna go home and watch the testimony)
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y'know I kinda justify my Net surfing at work with the fact that I am an "information" worker, and thus work best when surrounded by vast amounts of intel. And, uh, I read /. (etc.) to, hmm, stay current with, uhm, new tech trends. And the URLs I forward home to post on my site, well, that's umm, uh, err, personal.
Ah well, off to do more research.
If your average laborer from the last century looked at what I physically did for the day and what my paycheque looked like, he wouldn't have stress, he'd have a heart attack.
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if it wasn't for my computer and Diablo II, I'd have a lot more leisure time, so maybe...
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The hammer bounces off the screen, smacks the blond bimbo is the face, and millions of people realize that just because a computer smiles at you, that doesn't mean it is nice.
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a) new country
:)
??
Is that like "young country"?
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Thanks for a great post
Couple this with the Chinese attitude toward fine print; "contemptuous" might be too fine a word for it. The kind of "licensing" championed by western "shrinkwrap" is utterly foreign to the Chinese mentality. As far as a Chinese consumer is concerned, if he buys a copy of Windows, it's his. No shrinkwrap license is going to convince him he can't install the thing wherever, whenever, and how ever often he wants.
This makes damn near everyone who agrees with hardcore EULA's look like a blathering idiot. Hmm, hates fine print, likes to (re-)install OSes on multiple machines, sounds like that guy I see in the mirror every morning.
I mean seriously, how many EULA's have you read? I've read *maybe* 10, and clicked through....maybe 5,000. The Fine Print is a wierd phenomenon, I can't think of an important document I've signed since uni that didn't have a ton of it. I guess it is a natural extension of property law (and China seems to take the easy way out of that one), which would also explain why it's such a chore for software. Changing an infinite product into a scarce one requires LOTS of fine print.
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About the crack situation..
(execution for posession seems an effective deterrent), and thus it can't readily kill. That's all.
You just contradicted yourself. Looks like a 100% fatality rate to me.
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drunk enough to take, or drunk enough to post? That is the question.
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yup, that is a cool ass feature. And if you could press a button and buy the cd, it would be almost as good as Internet radio.
Wireless, Ubiquitous, High-speed, IP.
When?
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Dude, you are totally hepped up on goofballs.
....reads post again....
This is doomed to repeat the failure of the Web.
¿Estanislao, como se dice "troll"?
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it's not the djs that suck, it's the commercials. Think about, what is the reason, 80% of the time, you change the station?
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he's written a new book since then.
you can buy it here, or someplace else
And for you greenies in the crowd...
(complete with programming realism)
"RALPH NADER--"RICH MEDIA, POOR DEMOCRACY is more than a prolonged wake-up call; it shames those who do nothing and motivates~ validation-form-field.description_0001: ~ those who are trying to build a more democ ratic media that reflects the all-important noncommercial values which forge a just society."
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it's no longer CmdrTaco.
It's now.....CmdrCrkr.
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CmdrCrkr: Hemos want a cracker?
Hemo: bwachaack!!
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Why are there so many young kids being so destructive?
Teen angst, here in America it's a national pasttime. National pride might be another reason. The need to feel powerful is especially prevalent in testoserone laden males, etc...
What I'd like to know is why the programmers creating these scripts don't keep them to themselves...
Security through obscurity doesn't work. By lowering the level of intelligence you need to crack a box, the more likely it'll happen, the more demand you need for IPsec, the more IPsec professionals get paid.
That's the cynical response. The more rational one would be that keepng the holes secret, keeps the holes secret, anyone can use them, but those most likely to find/use them will be black-ats. If all the holes are public, the pressure and responsibility to fill them falls squarely on the person with the hole. And so the world keeps spinning.
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She began with a favourable attitude toward educational computing but came reluctantly to the conclusion that computers stifle learning and creativity and may cause damage to both vision and posture.
To read the article I had to lean forward in my chair and squint to compensate for the micro-font they used. When this became painful I no longer wanted to learn about how computers don't help learning, but couldn't think of anything else to do, so I posted this.
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Can you afford to run 1,000 simultaneous downloads/streaming of a 7MB news MPG?
:-)
No, but I can afford a link to one that does.
You and I, for instance could not even aford to run Slashdot from our homes. Sure we could run something more watered down, but would it be interesting enough?
Given Moore's Law, and the similar one that seems to be covering bandwidth, I don't see too much problem running a fairly large and interesting media source out of one's home. Given the ability to replicate news sources and link to content, the media landscape can become quite varied. There will always be the AOSheep, and the ones that just like it, but it will be much, much easier to diverge from the mainstream and chill in the eddys.
The largest dangers to a varied (i.e. good) media, 1) legislation , 2) the hardware solution (TW giving AOL packets higher priority/blocking other ISP traffic), 3) legislation.
(and of course the whole Napster/DeCSS/DVD/Copyright/IP thing)
As this Open Media thing gets started, more and more people will find their niche, but most of the older ones will have their cracks too deep in their couch grooves to escape. I think this is already happening to some extent. The major networks have realized that retaining younger viewers is just too expensive (they can't compete with the rampant creativity of the Natalie Portman set) and will concentrate on their Boomers. When the boomers are gone, so will most of the Old Media's power. Except that by then all the smart money will have shifted anyway, and we'll have a new boss, just like the old boss. But we won't get fooled again, that's for sure...
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And what helped Microsoft get outed for this chapter.....Oracle hiring shady private investigators. It was good to see that story of the cover of USAToday, if only to bring the realization that "grassroots efforts" to support stock prices are, shall we say, unethical. And the "grassroots efforts" to expose the other GRE's are about the same.
Just makes you wanna chuck it all and code for free, eh? Or code to free, as the case may be.
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In any case, US intelligence has made US corps aware of bribery and corruption that is so often rampant in the markets they are trying to enter. Do you have any evidence that they have received any information that would give them an unfair competitive advantage, like trade secrets or business plans?
*cough*
Knowing what bribes are taking place are trade secrets and business plans. And there are reports of actions like this, google a bit. How do you think we paid for Echelon?
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Cancer is not simply mutation - a cancer starts off as a cell that does not know when to stop reproducing because it has no growth inhibitors in its genome.
So wouldn't that make fscking with growth inhibitors (like the giant mice folks did) very dangerous?
I know we are talking about two different things here, but aren't they just removing a naturally evolved protection against mutation caused by unchecked growth?
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reason FF7A the DMCA is unconstitutional.
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other than that..
"Corporate Republic" WTF??? "Yahoo Serious"?? These words don't really make sense together...Such a thing doesn't exist.
Republic = "a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law"
A "corporate republic" would be one in which the representatives are elected by corporations and not people (although corporations are often considered people, so that's how you jump over the line). This is very much the type of government that is growing in the world. This is why the media (The fourth estate,the public press)....
hrmmmm, since I got a minute...
....is so important. Now, if you move into the corporate republic example, you see that, yup most mass media supports the "public" (read corporate) interest. Often this is because they are or at least part of, the corporations in question. A bit of a media rant, but that's where a lot of the corporate republic get's it's basis, and where it is most evident.
Most of it does lead to conspiracy theory, and when you talk (conspiracy theory+government/industry)*$$$ you get lots of hits and comments.
He is comparing Capitalism to the Measles in the fourth paragraph!! How many people died from the measles worldwide! Measles is a horrifying desease... This type of emotion-evoking yet utterly meaningless comparison has no place in a technology journal.
"Technology journal"??!?!?! You need to set your threshhold to -1 and read some trolls for a while. If anything,
To top things off with a cherry, he includes hackers and programmers in with his list of "threatened" individualists.
"What in this country isn't for sale?" Certainly Katz's own book would be included in the "for sale" category?
Rights and markets are what's for sale. The reason hackers and programmers are involved is both because of Katz, and because they share the plight of having their territory overrun by corporations and the laws they require to function. Virtual farmers seeing tremendous roadblacks to the viability of independant business being erected at a scary pace. The right to figure out how something works, or god forbid, fix it. Those are the rights that are being "sold" (or bought, if you prefer) That's the link.
Anyway, just a bit of Independance Day rant. Time to barbecue and start forest fires. (note: this is a joke about the fact that where I live, it is both hot, dry, wooded, and the day of the year when fireworks are real popular. And we had a fire about two weeks ago that nearly burned down a few friends' houses. Happy 4th!!!)
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It was a pretty big PR shot-in-foot for McDs.
Yea, I remember, it was just like Elian. NBC/CBS/CNN had 24-hour news coverage, choppers, the whole nine yards. Oh wait, those were McDonald's commercials
Is it any wonder why the "look at this idiot for a month" media has taken over?
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I'm curious how this information will be used differently given different styles of medical care (looked at from the East/West angle) in various regions of the world. Western medicine has focused on nature, that is, the physical representation of a disease, finding systems, bacteria, etc, while (to me) Eastern medicine is more about looking at the nurture of a disease, or, to be more precise, the environment in which it exists.
Now, we have the genome. This would seem to be the Holy Grail of Western medicine. But how does it figure into the more holistic or behavioural
medicine?
This whole thing is going to be very important, a certain persistent level of discussion and attention is warranted. And that's for everyone, not just geeks. Does anyone have (or heard) a good "layman's" perspective, i.e. from one who hasn't followed the Genome project's progress. What does Joe Six Pack think about this?
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...it's a good thing the Natives of this land could put together one of them space rocket thingies. They've been worshipping the sky for ages, now it's time to get up all in that.
oh, wait, not for 5 years. Guess it's back to the bar....
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and remember the celeron has full speed L1. Makes 'em good for overclocking (performance wise).
But, if you didn't know that, you'd moderate this up as informative....
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