It's called existential philosophy. The point is realize your place in the universe in comparison to the universe, anything devided by infinity is zero. So distinctions between you and an bacterium are sutble at best.
While discussing such existential matters, a friend of mine once said "You cannot prove to me that the universe will continue to exist after my death", and I agreed. I couldn't prove it, the only way to do so, would be to prove him right.
I happen to believe that both things are true, in a classicly paradoxical way, simultaneously. You are both utterly insignificant and of utmost importance. Zero and Infinity, the same sides of different coins. When you get to extremes things get rather hazy.
My life is it's own point and I draw great joy from it.
(side note: If anything divided by infinity is zero, shouldn't anything divided by zero be infinity?)
you sound very proud.. one feeling that overwhelmed me when I realized God exists was one of utter insignificance and powerlessness.
That's funny, when I felt it it was more a feeling of utter happiness and joy. I started crying, but that's a whole 'nother story.
So, my choice is, do I listen to my fellow bacterium friends/ancestors/media to decide how to live, or do I listen to the one who created me and the universe I live in? I trust that he knows what he's talking about.
So does he talk right to you, or do you find some type of medium/priest to do it? BTW I'm sorry that you think of yourself and all the people around you as bacterium. That's sad.
As for you, feel free to invent your own way, just let him know when you get lost or run out of food, he'll be happy to take you back.
Just give me his phone number and address and I'd be happy to stop by. It seems you've had a lot of personal physical contact, so pass it on over, heck, post it here. If you don't have them then your advice is rather silly, isn't it. Or was it metaphorical? A metaphor for what?
All non-Christians act the same too -> they don't follow God.
All hail the Christian god for he is the one and mighty. Those stupid asians, despite their vast cultural backgrounds and thousands of years of profound contemplation, they silly for not following the One True God (tm).
That's the big problem with many christians, and religions as a whole. If you don't believe in my God, you are evil. When the definition of "good" involves worshipping this One deity, anybody who doesn't is 'bad'. This is often a precept that many religions are based upon, and is just downright silly. Maybe if I didn't know so many christians that worshipped cold-hard-cash I wouldn't be so cynical, but that's what Southern Baptists can do to you.
It means in a nutshell that if you deny God's power and existence, then you will go to hell.
And how exactly would one deny God's power and existence? Would that include wasting a day a week saying empty prayers and trying to tell people how to live and what they are doing is "wrong"? Or is questioning included in denying? Maybe we should sit down and hash out who this "God" character is anyway. My opinion would differ greatly I assume.
For the sheep reference, he simply means to follow his teachings. You'll make mistakes if you don't.
"He" would have to be Christ, right? Sorry, too much of Christ's convoluted teachings (tainted perhaps by that whole Dark Ages thing) say "Follow me, don't question, accept all and everything will be good. Be like me, worship me, don't say bad things about me." If any philosopher stood up today and said such things they would get nailed to a post....
At its heart, Christianity is following a leader, Jesus Christ. The act of following Jesus is subject to all of the human failings that apply to following anything else. If God was interested in making his followers robots that only do his will, he could have made all humans that way.
Instead He just asks them to act all the same.
I'm sorry but the thing that finally allowed me to laugh at most blindly devoted Christians is the continuing theme of "Come follow me, my sheep". Them's Christ words, a.k.a. "Listen to me you stupid animals, if you don't you are so dumb you will wander off that cliff over yonder." It's just the constant references to people as sheep that make me laugh.
Yes, partly. After seeing how certain companies would leverage their position to make people use their shit, seeing the licensing and openness of Linux is a big reason I first became interested, that and the no crashing part. Finding software I found philosophically compatible was nice, too. I think this is a bigger feature than many people realize, every time I explain to someone how Linux is developed they go "oh, neat." If they listen for a few more minutes, they go "wow".
..lookin' forward to getting a mac.
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I just got a raise so I'm looking at picking one up for Christmas (g4 maybe). I haven't used a mac for a long time, but they're pretty. I don't use MacOs much (slight support), but it's easy and pretty. Just another tool for different work.
I would have added "ain't recursion neat", but I hit the 120 char limit.
What's even more interesting to contemplate...
You memory deteriorates as you grow older, does this final fast forward build itself from these corrupted memory blocks or only pick the good ones. If you go with the recursion part, your second life-in-a-second would be built on the rebuilding of a rebuilding of broken down blocks. This would change the interpretation leading to a completely different life (twice removed). Do this long enough and you might even believe you were a viking in some "past" life, or maybe a viking who thinks he's a sysadmin.
Of your two perspectives, I pick the second. (tho I haven't read any Niven(?))
You wouldn't have to train anyone to use a word processor if the word processor could be abstracted to the (virtual) user picking up a pen and paper and starting to write
I was reading an article the other day about this new PC-type machine that you didn't need a printer for, it seemed to print characters RIGHT THERE ON THE PAGE. When technology defeats it own purpose, a giant step to the same place has been made. :0-)
Everyone lives together, and works not for material reward, but more of a spiritual reward.
Does having an OS that doesn't crash a "material reward" or a "spiritual reward"?
The only way any form of Communism works in when scarcity doesn't exist, i.e. infinite supply. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
if you do something to improve linux, you have to give it back to everyone because of gpl. therefore, you don't own your own innovations and the reward for these (other than fame) goes to ???.
??? = the community , i.e. the same folks that gave you linux in the first place.
Bill (is it Joy or Gates...) has quite obviously decided that money is the end all be all and if you can't leverage your product to make money you are a dad-gum fool. I'm starting to get the impression that software and capitalism don't mix too good, I guess it's that whole infinite supply thing.
..let them know why you are doing it. Customers walk away from stores all the time, unless a company knows they are doing something that annoys people they will not change that behaviour. If they find a number of people leaving for the same reason, change is inevitable.
While I did enjoy the education I received at a fine private institution, and appreciated the class sizes (largest class I took in 5 years was ~35 people) that allowed for personal professor attention, my $400/mo. student loan payments suck rather bad. I guess you do tend to get what you pay for (anecdotal evidence from friends at state schools tend to back this up), but it still pains me to think what else I could have done with all that money, especially the stuff I'm still paying.
make the doom mod a remote shutdown and restart utility. Map the machines onto your homegrown map and wander the halls. Once you enter a "machine" that room loads and the processes come howling.
1. News is intended to inform. It isn't; it's intended to get advertising.
I guess living in a world where media conglomerates have squeezed as much money per eyeball as they can manage, you could have this opinion. You've put the cart before the horse. However "news" is still meant to inform, it's the delivery service that has become tainted, the medium controlled by the media masters. Thus the utitily of the process Katz talks about in his article.
Katz puts his ass on the line with every article, he knows what it is to get flamed. He just happens to believe that flames makes better steel, which is basically the whole idea.
Because then the rich parents, the ones with influence, will force a school situation that they approve of. At this point, anybody who would give a shit has given up. Raising the overall standard of life, starting with education can do nothing but help this country. A mixing of classes can do nothing but help this country. How's that for starters?
First he says (in the article, not the analysis, he is billg)
Gates claims that his business is "not like owning a newspaper. Someone who owns a newspaper can pick up the phone to the editor and say 'run headlines I like'."
No, websites are nothing like newspapers, no one could possibly have up to the second editorial control. hmmm.
..and..
The next stage technologically is accessing the Internet through the television and the telephone, says Mr Gates.
umm, no comment...
..and..
..the world's richest man describes his meeting with Prime Minister Tony Blair as "neat",/snip/ and claims never to have heard a Bill Gates joke.
..and..
Gates also denies there is a key to his software programmes held by the security services of the US Government.
...but at least he got one right...
Bill Gates, the world's first $100bn man, admits his company Microsoft will one day be replaced.
It's pretty easy to find *any* kind of music streaming over the 'Net. Not many people use it yet, maybe ~5,000 at one time, but as bandwidth grows (and it will like mad in the next few years) this will be an option to more and more people.
Stuff like the Phishcast will spring up and more people will listen to live music, or canned, from their favorite band all the time. Phishcast does streaming 128 (and 64,32) bit MP3s of shows as recent as last week. I get to follow the band from my desktop in Colorado, it's fun.
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It's called existential philosophy. The point is realize your place in the universe in comparison to the universe, anything devided by infinity is zero. So distinctions between you and an bacterium are sutble at best.
While discussing such existential matters, a friend of mine once said "You cannot prove to me that the universe will continue to exist after my death", and I agreed. I couldn't prove it, the only way to do so, would be to prove him right.
I happen to believe that both things are true, in a classicly paradoxical way, simultaneously. You are both utterly insignificant and of utmost importance. Zero and Infinity, the same sides of different coins. When you get to extremes things get rather hazy.
My life is it's own point and I draw great joy from it.
(side note: If anything divided by infinity is zero, shouldn't anything divided by zero be infinity?)
you sound very proud .. one feeling that overwhelmed me when I realized God exists was one of utter insignificance and powerlessness.
That's funny, when I felt it it was more a feeling of utter happiness and joy. I started crying, but that's a whole 'nother story.
So, my choice is, do I listen to my fellow bacterium friends/ancestors/media to decide how to live, or do I listen to the one who created me and the universe I live in? I trust that he knows what he's talking about.
So does he talk right to you, or do you find some type of medium/priest to do it? BTW I'm sorry that you think of yourself and all the people around you as bacterium. That's sad.
As for you, feel free to invent your own way, just let him know when you get lost or run out of food, he'll be happy to take you back.
Just give me his phone number and address and I'd be happy to stop by. It seems you've had a lot of personal physical contact, so pass it on over, heck, post it here. If you don't have them then your advice is rather silly, isn't it. Or was it metaphorical? A metaphor for what?
and, um, I think Christian FPS are really neat.
All non-Christians act the same too -> they don't follow God.
All hail the Christian god for he is the one and mighty. Those stupid asians, despite their vast cultural backgrounds and thousands of years of profound contemplation, they silly for not following the One True God (tm).
That's the big problem with many christians, and religions as a whole. If you don't believe in my God, you are evil. When the definition of "good" involves worshipping this One deity, anybody who doesn't is 'bad'. This is often a precept that many religions are based upon, and is just downright silly. Maybe if I didn't know so many christians that worshipped cold-hard-cash I wouldn't be so cynical, but that's what Southern Baptists can do to you.
It means in a nutshell that if you deny God's power and existence, then you will go to hell.
And how exactly would one deny God's power and existence? Would that include wasting a day a week saying empty prayers and trying to tell people how to live and what they are doing is "wrong"? Or is questioning included in denying? Maybe we should sit down and hash out who this "God" character is anyway. My opinion would differ greatly I assume.
For the sheep reference, he simply means to follow his teachings. You'll make mistakes if you don't.
"He" would have to be Christ, right? Sorry, too much of Christ's convoluted teachings (tainted perhaps by that whole Dark Ages thing) say "Follow me, don't question, accept all and everything will be good. Be like me, worship me, don't say bad things about me." If any philosopher stood up today and said such things they would get nailed to a post....
I hope you take time to meditate on your falling away from the One True Faith(tm).
At its heart, Christianity is following a leader, Jesus Christ. The act of following Jesus is subject to all of the human failings that apply to following anything else. If God was interested in making his followers robots that only do his will, he could have made all humans that way.
Instead He just asks them to act all the same.
I'm sorry but the thing that finally allowed me to laugh at most blindly devoted Christians is the continuing theme of "Come follow me, my sheep". Them's Christ words, a.k.a. "Listen to me you stupid animals, if you don't you are so dumb you will wander off that cliff over yonder." It's just the constant references to people as sheep that make me laugh.
Yes, partly. After seeing how certain companies would leverage their position to make people use their shit, seeing the licensing and openness of Linux is a big reason I first became interested, that and the no crashing part. Finding software I found philosophically compatible was nice, too. I think this is a bigger feature than many people realize, every time I explain to someone how Linux is developed they go "oh, neat." If they listen for a few more minutes, they go "wow".
I just got a raise so I'm looking at picking one up for Christmas (g4 maybe). I haven't used a mac for a long time, but they're pretty. I don't use MacOs much (slight support), but it's easy and pretty. Just another tool for different work.
if I can't find it on google. I rarely have to go to stop three. (general info searches)
-COPPA!
(slightly modified pronounciation of "copper" meaning policeman. Used to make a driver aware of nearby peace officers)
I would have added "ain't recursion neat", but I hit the 120 char limit.
What's even more interesting to contemplate...
You memory deteriorates as you grow older, does this final fast forward build itself from these corrupted memory blocks or only pick the good ones. If you go with the recursion part, your second life-in-a-second would be built on the rebuilding of a rebuilding of broken down blocks. This would change the interpretation leading to a completely different life (twice removed). Do this long enough and you might even believe you were a viking in some "past" life, or maybe a viking who thinks he's a sysadmin.
Of your two perspectives, I pick the second. (tho I haven't read any Niven(?))
You wouldn't have to train anyone to use a word processor if the word processor could be abstracted to the (virtual) user picking up a pen and paper and starting to write
I was reading an article the other day about this new PC-type machine that you didn't need a printer for, it seemed to print characters RIGHT THERE ON THE PAGE. When technology defeats it own purpose, a giant step to the same place has been made.
:0-)
Everyone lives together, and works not for material reward, but more of a spiritual reward.
Does having an OS that doesn't crash a "material reward" or a "spiritual reward"?
The only way any form of Communism works in when scarcity doesn't exist, i.e. infinite supply. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
....
my take on this. Bill Joy said:
if you do something to improve linux, you have to give it back to everyone because of gpl. therefore, you don't own your own innovations and the reward for these (other than fame) goes to ???.
??? = the community , i.e. the same folks that gave you linux in the first place.
Bill (is it Joy or Gates...) has quite obviously decided that money is the end all be all and if you can't leverage your product to make money you are a dad-gum fool. I'm starting to get the impression that software and capitalism don't mix too good, I guess it's that whole infinite supply thing.
..let them know why you are doing it. Customers walk away from stores all the time, unless a company knows they are doing something that annoys people they will not change that behaviour. If they find a number of people leaving for the same reason, change is inevitable.
While I did enjoy the education I received at a fine private institution, and appreciated the class sizes (largest class I took in 5 years was ~35 people) that allowed for personal professor attention, my $400/mo. student loan payments suck rather bad. I guess you do tend to get what you pay for (anecdotal evidence from friends at state schools tend to back this up), but it still pains me to think what else I could have done with all that money, especially the stuff I'm still paying.
...I just got my IIIx in the mail. Every time you upgrade....
I saw this in the changelog
SCSI Updates
DVD handling
The DVD handling code has been cleaned up.
Can anyone give me a quick "State of the DVD" update for Linux. Reccommend a drive??
make the doom mod a remote shutdown and restart utility. Map the machines onto your homegrown map and wander the halls. Once you enter a "machine" that room loads and the processes come howling.
"It's time to Administrate!!" *pumps shotgun*
You've become too cynical
1. News is intended to inform. It isn't; it's intended to get advertising.
I guess living in a world where media conglomerates have squeezed as much money per eyeball as they can manage, you could have this opinion. You've put the cart before the horse. However "news" is still meant to inform, it's the delivery service that has become tainted, the medium controlled by the media masters. Thus the utitily of the process Katz talks about in his article.
Katz puts his ass on the line with every article, he knows what it is to get flamed. He just happens to believe that flames makes better steel, which is basically the whole idea.
Because then the rich parents, the ones with influence, will force a school situation that they approve of. At this point, anybody who would give a shit has given up. Raising the overall standard of life, starting with education can do nothing but help this country. A mixing of classes can do nothing but help this country. How's that for starters?
.. it's getting popular so be gentle.. :-)
Phishcast
That's who I said, said it. he is billg.
...of the real world.
..the world's richest man describes his meeting with Prime Minister Tony Blair as "neat", /snip/ and claims never to have heard a Bill Gates joke.
First he says (in the article, not the analysis, he is billg)
Gates claims that his business is "not like owning a newspaper. Someone who owns a newspaper can pick up the phone to the editor and say 'run headlines I like'."
No, websites are nothing like newspapers, no one could possibly have up to the second editorial control. hmmm.
..and..
The next stage technologically is accessing the Internet through the television and the telephone, says Mr Gates.
umm, no comment...
..and..
..and..
Gates also denies there is a key to his software programmes held by the security services of the US Government.
...but at least he got one right...
Bill Gates, the world's first $100bn man, admits his company Microsoft will one day be replaced.
/end knee-jerk analysis
...has gotten really cool in the last year or so.
It's pretty easy to find *any* kind of music streaming over the 'Net. Not many people use it yet, maybe ~5,000 at one time, but as bandwidth grows (and it will like mad in the next few years) this will be an option to more and more people.
Stuff like the Phishcast will spring up and more people will listen to live music, or canned, from their favorite band all the time. Phishcast does streaming 128 (and 64,32) bit MP3s of shows as recent as last week. I get to follow the band from my desktop in Colorado, it's fun.