you got a link to that Tom's Hardware article? I just checked 'em out and didn't see it anywhere. Or are you basing this on Apple's "marketing specs"=="It's twice as fast as the PIII" (that was for the G3, which wasn't, just twice as expensive.).
anybody have the reporters email? I don't want to flame just clear up some inconsistencies. Also going to an executive for information about their competitor is just plain bad reporting. It was a poorly writting article that falls (because of it's quality) squarely under FUD.
Did anyone read the words open-source, free, or stable anywhere in the article? Or perhaps the comparison of a corporate product (Java) to a community one (Linux), which BTW hasn't really existed before (at lest on this scale). This reporter needs a reprimand for shoddy work, with media competition going through the roof credibility is King, the Boston Globe has lost it with me. (if not for the article, for the fact that I couldn't find a quick and easy e-mail address for gosh sakes!, c'mon folks "Interactive Media" sheesh)
Sorry, but I read the article (don't) so I figured I should comment on it.....
after I take a quick nap.zzzzzzzzz
O.K., so is JK impressed by this amazing machine (WOW, look at those benchmarks! um.) or by another good commercial? I mean to totally buy into the hype like this is poor journalism, it's even poor consumerism. The same limits being placed on the G4 are placed on the Dreamcast, why, because we haven't adjusted our belief in what makes up a supercomputer. Or maybe they all are supercomputers now. Wouldn't that have been more groundbreaking? Not, ooh, a new color and number, but, ooh, anybody can have a supercomputer on their desk (and play solitaire, yippee!)
Sorry anytime you just add a number to a product precludes it from being amazing in my book, or anything other than a blip on the big screen.
think we're a tad on the lean side for moderators. Allowing a few more may help. One of the point of points I think is to put some gradiation into the posts, so that the reader is able to match the number of posts to how much time he has. So even if some average posts get marked a tad higher than others, this may be okay. This way maybe instead of having 200 +1 comments, 10 +2 comments, and 1 +3 comment, we'd have 150 +1, 50 +2, and 11 +3.
I like this one the best. Under each story have five links (as opposed to the two now) with the number of comments. The first is the full monty, flame wars and everything and each one over corresponds with a certain higher score i.e...
(246 comments, 235, 200, 50)
Allowing for quickly getting the cream and ignoring the crap (until you want to swim in it:))
note: this is all dependant on whether this is actual or some disillusioned scientists. I tend to beleive it, mainly because these scientists would most likely not be the type to publish normally, but until I see it from another source I won't totally believe it, that being said, let me argue like I do.
Let's say one night you watch the results of the lottery on TV, and the numbers '1-2-3-4-5-6' come up. Is that a rare occurence? No. That sequence is as likely to occur than your birthday and your girlfriend's birthday combined into esoteric equations.
Example number 2: I'm with this girl one night. I say my astrological sign is Scorpio. "Really!" she exclaims, "I'm Scorpio too!" What are the probabilities of that happening? 1/144? No, just 1/12. At one point (and cryptos will be familiar with this) if you add people, it becomes a rare event that you do not find people with the same sign.
Both of the examples you give here are actually rare occurences, not the number series themselves, but the fact that you recognize them as special series. You note their occurence as extremely rare (the water cooler talk if the lotto was 1-2-3-4-5-6!!) thus in fact making them rare.
These guys were both looking at special curves, in fact random , that turned out to be the same. That is significant in the number of other patterns that can, or cannot, be explained. At the very least this will cause your insurance rates to go up:)
We're 6 billion on this Earth. It's bound to happen to someone. Same thing with winning the grand prize lottery once or twice.
That's what the story said, very rare occurences are more likely. Check out the Drake Equation if you think that couldn't be significant
cold fusion this is different (so far) in that it was two totally seperate areas of study that found the same thing, not some freaks in the desert.
Not to be too crazy, but if this holds up, and others find this curse, it is exceptional. The basic curves of life, and chaos. This is the stuff that explains why a seashell and a universe have the same design. Chaos theory and quantum mechanics both show a certain unpredictability to reality. Science like this shows there is some underlying pattern. At the very least this is extremely interesting, at least for all of us that want our own universe some day.
hmmm, if they had thought of it, I think a certain company might have included such a scenario in it's appropriately title Day of The Dead Documet. Negative marketing works in politics, why not in software.
Really, I would think that it would be quite a bit worse to charge no money for stolen goods, for the reason that the customer is that much more likely to choose the illegal product over the honest one. (Infinitely more likely to use your "math").
The rub here comess down to web savvy. I have friends who consider themselves "computer literate" that have trouble downloading and installing new programs. For them to find a Warez site, gain access, and eventually get a working game on their system, is really unthinkable. Compare that to those who buy the game in a story and you can see how the market potential is so much higher for the game sold in stores. Combine this with the fact that the people who bought it were (redundantly) willing to buy it at a store price, and you get 100x worse.
Tons of people able to buy it in stores vs. an 3133t few who can find it for free. Plus, it was a bowling game, definitely NOT aimed at the computer savvy.
They took a product, not theirs, and charged money for it. This is actual theft of income, not the theft of "potential" income that the Warez practive involves. Actual income vs. Potential income(or free advertising if you prefer) = 100x worse, like I said.
Anyway, this allays any feeling of guilt or remorse I have about "getting" any GTInteractive (or any of their partners) products. If they want to play be those rules while trying to be a "respectable" company, I can play by them as a "concerned" consumer.
Sorry, I totally disagree, not with the fact that the company owns it (to dispute that is idiocy) but that they *should* or its *right* to spy on their employees.
I read an article yesterday from the WSJ about the practices of Herb Kelleher the wacko CEO from Southwest Airlines. When asked why his company did so well (26 straight years of profitability) he said basically because all of their employees bust their ass at work. Why? Because they love their job. Why? 'Cause they don't have to be stuck up or put up with too much stupid bullshit and are allowed to act like people not drones. Have you ever had someone sing you the safety procedures like Elvis? I did, on Southwest, flying into Memphis. With the way businesses have to move these days (Service, service, service, it's too easy to change providers) having happy, well-adjusted, comfortable employees is beyond measure. Having scared, paranoid (because they receive a diry joke on e-mail, god forbid), and boring employees leads to that type of company. Basically my point is that employees are there to get their work done, beyond that stay off their case. All of this is a big reason why I chose to start my career outside of the corporate environment. I like being told and telling off-color jokes, 'cause they are just that much funnier.
(BTW the notebook example was much more accurate than your handkerchief one)
we've got some pretty vindictive folks around here. That being said I LOVE the idea of busting the people who make the rules first, even if it is a set up. Of course this would be as unethical in my mind as monitoring what people consider their private correspondence, but if you're willing to do that I don't see subscribing them to lists as any less ethical (poetic justice, if you will)
If they are giving it away for free, my guess is that they have some idea of how to keep it going. Wordperfect was still a costly program, iirc, making things free changes a lot. Of course, if they had truly open-sourced it, things would get better faster, but that's another story.
I do agree though that buying companies just to try and compete with M$ can be risky, but it's still better than sitting back and watching them rake in the dough.
Anybody watching Loveline on MTV last night (Mon.)? I keep it on in the background, so it's a radio show like it should be (and is). There was this chick whose husband had died, and since he looked a lot like Fox and they watched it together, she was obsessively watching it. Anyway, her question for Dr. Drew and the crazy Jew was if she should stop. I guess somebody was listening and had a good answer for her, eh?
(BTW: The Man Show kicks ass, and shows it off...)
By far the two best reasons to get HBO. It's starting to be worth it, it's soo nice to watch a show without commercials (and occasional nudity). "Mr. Show with Bob and David" is sketch comedy to the nth, they've got a pretty sweet line-up.
Second, commercial use is defined as use for "direct or indirect commercial or strategic gain or advantage."
How about a button on the desktop or command in your help manual that says "type this to install"? Would these breach it? It would basically be the same as them downloading it. It might be splitting hairs and bending licences, but thats a lot of what the software business is about, just ask M$.
If you can't I don't see this ever gaining a large scale audience and basically being of no use to the OSS movement in general and home users in particular. I'm talk about the "mom" type home user of course.
(No, I haven't studied the license, and I guess siccing some lawyers on it before going ahead is a given. (insert mult-page rant about too many laws and lawyers here))
It seems to me that money works in a way such that the more you have the more you want, at least until you get old, realize it all ain't worth shit, and give it away to try and gain some type of immortality. Ever been to Rockefeller Plaza or Carnegie Hall? The Gates CS Builings?
BTW get with the times: "It's All about the Benjamins" (or pentiums if you like the WeirdAL slant)
"We" can, unfortunately new people keep coming along all the time and they have to grow up too. I would guess the average age of the flamers is about 18, testorone running high, ready to take on all the world. Many have seen the light that is free software and want to fight the darkness of proprietary expoitation software. Youthful exhuberance, foul language, and e-mail are a potent mix.
The best way to "fight" this is to voice your own coherent, polite, and flame-free outrage (if you have it) and try to let the law of averages work to its full extent.
Wouldn't it be better to not tax food and shelter? There are basic "essentials" of life. Perhaps a tax-free low cost (generic) grocer, and tax-free income housing. I also noticed someone else mentioning a fixed rebate level that would cover the taxes of the lowest income brackets, who really don't contribute all that much anyway.
A luxury tax isn't needed, since if you can afford any luxuries at all, you would already be paying taxes on them. This can work and still treat everyone the same, while benefitting those that need tax breaks the most. Our current system benefits (i.e. pay less taxes) those with the income to hire a tax attorney/accountant to find the holes in the law or claim the deductions they deserve.
20% national sales tax + $3,000 tax credit ($15,000 (roughly the poverty level) *.2)
Everyone has the same taxes and low-income families recieve a higher benefit.
You could even do the credit as a credit card (like the Validines I had in school), after the cashier rings you up, you slide 'em the card and it subtracts the tax + debits your tax account.
The "cost" would be the government tracking what you use the credit for, but, and you have to trust me on this (it's what I do), your spending habits are already VERY well tracked by the real government of this country, the corporations.
Exactly, how many Windoze boxes are sold with the prepackaged OS and some Office product(or Works), both of which are part of the M$ tax.
Now (since commercial use is no longer restricted) you can offer a pre-installed Linux bot WITH an Office (and e-mail and a browser) product at NO additional cost to the end user, or the manufacturer. That shaves at least $100 off the cost, making low-cost Linux boxes as useful (in the home) as Win ones with a much lower price needed for profitability. Is there anyone doing this?
One of the best things about a flat sales tax, IMHO, is that it makes it has a built in incentive to save moey. You don't want to pay taxes, don't buy taxed items. The national savings rate for the U.S. last year was -.7%, IIRC. The highest level of consumption, per capita, comes from the higher economic classes. The "soccer moms" and their ilk, who absolutely HAVE to have the latest and greatest toys for their kids, and their husbands.
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A straight quote from the article:
"Luck was able to use N2PC to identify whether a person was processing visual signals one at a time or simultaneously. "
Bummer of a name for a probability doctor, eh?
Just wondering if that still fits in your "stable" calculation?
What about the nuclear theory?
One bomb in Redmond to stop MS, you have to destroy the world to stop Linux.
(yea, this is silly but it's late, for me)
you got a link to that Tom's Hardware article? I just checked 'em out and didn't see it anywhere. Or are you basing this on Apple's "marketing specs"=="It's twice as fast as the PIII" (that was for the G3, which wasn't, just twice as expensive.).
anybody have the reporters email? I don't want to flame just clear up some inconsistencies. Also going to an executive for information about their competitor is just plain bad reporting. It was a poorly writting article that falls (because of it's quality) squarely under FUD.
Did anyone read the words open-source, free, or stable anywhere in the article? Or perhaps the comparison of a corporate product (Java) to a community one (Linux), which BTW hasn't really existed before (at lest on this scale). This reporter needs a reprimand for shoddy work, with media competition going through the roof credibility is King, the Boston Globe has lost it with me. (if not for the article, for the fact that I couldn't find a quick and easy e-mail address for gosh sakes!, c'mon folks "Interactive Media" sheesh)
Sorry, but I read the article (don't) so I figured I should comment on it.....
after I take a quick nap.zzzzzzzzz
O.K., so is JK impressed by this amazing machine (WOW, look at those benchmarks! um.) or by another good commercial? I mean to totally buy into the hype like this is poor journalism, it's even poor consumerism. The same limits being placed on the G4 are placed on the Dreamcast, why, because we haven't adjusted our belief in what makes up a supercomputer. Or maybe they all are supercomputers now. Wouldn't that have been more groundbreaking? Not, ooh, a new color and number, but, ooh, anybody can have a supercomputer on their desk (and play solitaire, yippee!)
Sorry anytime you just add a number to a product precludes it from being amazing in my book, or anything other than a blip on the big screen.
non-story, non-article, non-event.
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz
style vs. substance, perchance :-)
think we're a tad on the lean side for moderators. Allowing a few more may help. One of the point of points I think is to put some gradiation into the posts, so that the reader is able to
:))
match the number of posts to how much time he has. So even if some average posts get marked a tad higher than others, this may be okay. This way maybe instead of having 200 +1
comments, 10 +2 comments, and 1 +3 comment, we'd have 150 +1, 50 +2, and 11 +3.
I like this one the best. Under each story have five links (as opposed to the two now) with the number of comments. The first is the full monty, flame wars and everything and each one over corresponds with a certain higher score i.e...
(246 comments, 235, 200, 50)
Allowing for quickly getting the cream and ignoring the crap (until you want to swim in it
I submitted this the other day, but I guess it wasn't impo'tant nuff. Basically lets HTML code run ActiveX and do, well, pretty much anything.
also go here halfway down the page
jump to "turcotte"
note: this is all dependant on whether this is actual or some disillusioned scientists. I tend to beleive it, mainly because these scientists would most likely not be the type to publish normally, but until I see it from another source I won't totally believe it, that being said, let me argue like I do.
:)
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Let's say one night you watch the results of the lottery on TV, and the numbers '1-2-3-4-5-6' come up. Is that a rare occurence? No. That sequence is as likely to occur than your birthday and your girlfriend's birthday combined into esoteric equations.
Example number 2: I'm with this girl one night. I say my astrological sign is Scorpio. "Really!" she exclaims, "I'm Scorpio too!" What are the probabilities of that happening? 1/144? No, just 1/12. At one point (and cryptos will be familiar with this) if you add people, it becomes a rare event that you do not find people with the same sign.
Both of the examples you give here are actually rare occurences, not the number series themselves, but the fact that you recognize them as special series. You note their occurence as extremely rare (the water cooler talk if the lotto was 1-2-3-4-5-6!!) thus in fact making them rare.
These guys were both looking at special curves, in fact random , that turned out to be the same. That is significant in the number of other patterns that can, or cannot, be explained. At the very least this will cause your insurance rates to go up
We're 6 billion on this Earth. It's bound to happen to someone. Same thing with winning the grand prize lottery once or twice.
That's what the story said, very rare occurences are more likely. Check out the Drake Equation if you think that couldn't be significant
cold fusion
this is different (so far) in that it was two totally seperate areas of study that found the same thing, not some freaks in the desert.
Cool stuff regardless.
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pronounced Slash-dosh-ya?
Not to be too crazy, but if this holds up, and others find this curse, it is exceptional. The basic curves of life, and chaos. This is the stuff that explains why a seashell and a universe have the same design. Chaos theory and quantum mechanics both show a certain unpredictability to reality. Science like this shows there is some underlying pattern. At the very least this is extremely interesting, at least for all of us that want our own universe some day.
hmmm, if they had thought of it, I think a certain company might have included such a scenario in it's appropriately title Day of The Dead Documet. Negative marketing works in politics, why not in software.
Really, I would think that it would be quite a bit worse to charge no money for stolen goods, for the reason that the customer is that much more likely to choose the illegal product over the honest one. (Infinitely more likely to use your "math").
The rub here comess down to web savvy. I have friends who consider themselves "computer literate" that have trouble downloading and installing new programs. For them to find a Warez site, gain access, and eventually get a working game on their system, is really unthinkable. Compare that to those who buy the game in a story and you can see how the market potential is so much higher for the game sold in stores. Combine this with the fact that the people who bought it were (redundantly) willing to buy it at a store price, and you get 100x worse.
Tons of people able to buy it in stores vs. an 3133t few who can find it for free. Plus, it was a bowling game, definitely NOT aimed at the computer savvy.
They took a product, not theirs, and charged money for it. This is actual theft of income, not the theft of "potential" income that the Warez practive involves.
Actual income vs. Potential income(or free advertising if you prefer) = 100x worse, like I said.
Anyway, this allays any feeling of guilt or remorse I have about "getting" any GTInteractive (or any of their partners) products. If they want to play be those rules while trying to be a "respectable" company, I can play by them as a "concerned" consumer.
Sorry, I totally disagree, not with the fact that the company owns it (to dispute that is idiocy) but that they *should* or its *right* to spy on their employees.
I read an article yesterday from the WSJ about the practices of Herb Kelleher the wacko CEO from Southwest Airlines. When asked why his company did so well (26 straight years of profitability) he said basically because all of their employees bust their ass at work. Why? Because they love their job. Why? 'Cause they don't have to be stuck up or put up with too much stupid bullshit and are allowed to act like people not drones. Have you ever had someone sing you the safety procedures like Elvis? I did, on Southwest, flying into Memphis.
With the way businesses have to move these days (Service, service, service, it's too easy to change providers) having happy, well-adjusted, comfortable employees is beyond measure. Having scared, paranoid (because they receive a diry joke on e-mail, god forbid), and boring employees leads to that type of company.
Basically my point is that employees are there to get their work done, beyond that stay off their case.
All of this is a big reason why I chose to start my career outside of the corporate environment. I like being told and telling off-color jokes, 'cause they are just that much funnier.
(BTW the notebook example was much more accurate than your handkerchief one)
we've got some pretty vindictive folks around here. That being said I LOVE the idea of busting the people who make the rules first, even if it is a set up. Of course this would be as unethical in my mind as monitoring what people consider their private correspondence, but if you're willing to do that I don't see subscribing them to lists as any less ethical (poetic justice, if you will)
If they are giving it away for free, my guess is that they have some idea of how to keep it going. Wordperfect was still a costly program, iirc, making things free changes a lot. Of course, if they had truly open-sourced it, things would get better faster, but that's another story.
I do agree though that buying companies just to try and compete with M$ can be risky, but it's still better than sitting back and watching them rake in the dough.
Anybody watching Loveline on MTV last night (Mon.)? I keep it on in the background, so it's a radio show like it should be (and is). There was this chick whose husband had died, and since he looked a lot like Fox and they watched it together, she was obsessively watching it. Anyway, her question for Dr. Drew and the crazy Jew was if she should stop. I guess somebody was listening and had a good answer for her, eh?
(BTW: The Man Show kicks ass, and shows it off...)
By far the two best reasons to get HBO. It's starting to be worth it, it's soo nice to watch a show without commercials (and occasional nudity). "Mr. Show with Bob and David" is sketch comedy to the nth, they've got a pretty sweet line-up.
Second, commercial use is defined as use for "direct or indirect commercial or strategic gain or advantage."
How about a button on the desktop or command in your help manual that says "type this to install"? Would these breach it? It would basically be the same as them downloading it. It might be splitting hairs and bending licences, but thats a lot of what the software business is about, just ask M$.
If you can't I don't see this ever gaining a large scale audience and basically being of no use to the OSS movement in general and home users in particular. I'm talk about the "mom" type home user of course.
(No, I haven't studied the license, and I guess siccing some lawyers on it before going ahead is a given. (insert mult-page rant about too many laws and lawyers here))
It seems to me that money works in a way such that the more you have the more you want, at least until you get old, realize it all ain't worth shit, and give it away to try and gain some type of immortality. Ever been to Rockefeller Plaza or Carnegie Hall? The Gates CS Builings?
BTW get with the times: "It's All about the Benjamins" (or pentiums if you like the WeirdAL slant)
Can't we all grow up, please??
"We" can, unfortunately new people keep coming along all the time and they have to grow up too. I would guess the average age of the flamers is about 18, testorone running high, ready to take on all the world. Many have seen the light that is free software and want to fight the darkness of proprietary expoitation software. Youthful exhuberance, foul language, and e-mail are a potent mix.
The best way to "fight" this is to voice your own coherent, polite, and flame-free outrage (if you have it) and try to let the law of averages work to its full extent.
Wouldn't it be better to not tax food and shelter? There are basic "essentials" of life. Perhaps a tax-free low cost (generic) grocer, and tax-free income housing. I also noticed someone else mentioning a fixed rebate level that would cover the taxes of the lowest income brackets, who really don't contribute all that much anyway.
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A luxury tax isn't needed, since if you can afford any luxuries at all, you would already be paying taxes on them. This can work and still treat everyone the same, while benefitting those that need tax breaks the most. Our current system benefits (i.e. pay less taxes) those with the income to hire a tax attorney/accountant to find the holes in the law or claim the deductions they deserve.
20% national sales tax + $3,000 tax credit ($15,000 (roughly the poverty level) *
Everyone has the same taxes and low-income families recieve a higher benefit.
You could even do the credit as a credit card (like the Validines I had in school), after the cashier rings you up, you slide 'em the card and it subtracts the tax + debits your tax account.
The "cost" would be the government tracking what you use the credit for, but, and you have to trust me on this (it's what I do), your spending habits are already VERY well tracked by the real government of this country, the corporations.
Exactly, how many Windoze boxes are sold with the prepackaged OS and some Office product(or Works), both of which are part of the M$ tax.
Now (since commercial use is no longer restricted) you can offer a pre-installed Linux bot WITH an Office (and e-mail and a browser) product at NO additional cost to the end user, or the manufacturer. That shaves at least $100 off the cost, making low-cost Linux boxes as useful (in the home) as Win ones with a much lower price needed for profitability. Is there anyone doing this?
One of the best things about a flat sales tax, IMHO, is that it makes it has a built in incentive to save moey. You don't want to pay taxes, don't buy taxed items. The national savings rate for the U.S. last year was -.7%, IIRC. The highest level of consumption, per capita, comes from the higher economic classes. The "soccer moms" and their ilk, who absolutely HAVE to have the latest and greatest toys for their kids, and their husbands.