I was going to write: "Basic technical safeguards are now enabled by default" is nowhere in the same ballpark as "turned over a new leaf and won't secretly collaborate with government spies" and you are an ignorant fuckhat for wasting our time with this nonsense. Clearly I have nothing better to do than lambaste the illiterate in order to hopefully correct some small portion of this type of idiotic behavior, but that's far more useful to society than either willful misinterpretation or blatant stupidity.
But I think you covered the essence, so no need for me to pile on
K&R C came out in 1978, and I have the 1988 second edition, where a lot of the syntax had been changed. This would have been terrible advice in those years between.
We now have ANSI, ISO, C99, C11, and Embedded C.
Which one(s) will not be deprecated in 25 years?
While I agree, "C" is not specific enough. I don't have the answer, and I'm not sure anyone will.
Assuming goes a long way here. Maintaining for 25 years does not mean built, qualified, and expected to run. If that's the case, no one cares about maintainability 25 years into the future.
"Maintain it organically" doesn't seem like the request, either. OP seems to want to open an environment, patch the code, and rebuild with little fuss. I don't even think that's possible, because you *have* to consider things like the runtime library (embedded systems should have at least minimal libraries, unless you're doing 100% assembler). Security patches mean updates to the environment.
I can only assume the answer is in moving to something like Infocom's Z-machine, or more familiarly Java or.NET, where bytecode is interpreted. The IDE can be the same forever, with patches to the interpreter as needed for security. But that too is problematic without dedication to backwards compatibility.
Microsoft seems settled on.NET 2.0 - but I recently built something that doesn't run on any later version. Builds, starts, but shits itself. I can't speak for Java. But the Z-machine, well WinFrotz still works.
I hate to be on this side of the argument, but MSVC 6.0 used Dinkumware libraries which they could not include in service packs due to license issues. I had some STL code that misbehaved until I spotted a relevant post on that place that no one mentions telling me to upgrade. I think it was std::vector that was fine until you reached 65k entries. Then the vector gets sheared and data is lost.
Switch from something not broken to MSVC, fully patched, and your shit breaks.
It's not likely 16 years later, but there are bugs in strange places. IOW you'd be surprised.
How did we get to qualifying and regulation? OP said maintainable. I can jump to that conclusion too, but I can't see that it's supported.
If your compiler needs security upgrades, I would assume you need to upgrade and re-qualify rather than using Borland C++ Builder 3.0 for the rest of the product's life.
Then I remembered Pascal, and as it turns out Delphi was last updated in 2011.
Then I remembered that if you're doing embedded work on Linux, you can have any gcc back-end and any gcc front-end. So just stay where you are. When LTS ends after 5 years, something is going to have to change. And even meanwhile, a compiler issue may require LTS to update the compiler, and now your compiler needs to be re-qualified or you 1) can't upgrade or 2) can't maintain.
Who does that work? The port, I mean? Or if it's in an emulator, who quality checks it to make sure it even runs? Don't those things cost money? At least you have to pay someone to do it. And if all the developer has to do is opt in, that's Microsoft doing the work.
Microsoft are giving you a way to play games you own, doing the heavy lifting for free, to sell more consoles. That's what this boils down to unless there's a lot more that we don't know about.
1) Get the hardware out the door, with functioning (mostly) games 2) DO NOT make promises you can't keep 3) Get key development shops on board 4) Get some titles ready and tested 5) Announce
It's smart marketing, and not in any way misleading. There was no hidden feature. Unless you think it worked with the announced 100 titles on release day?
It's the first sentence of the fucking article, you retarded idiot.
Sweden asked U.K. and Ecuadorian authorities to allow prosecutors to interview WikiLeaksâ(TM) founder Julian Assange at Ecuadorâ(TM)s embassy in London before a statute of limitations in the sexual-assault case runs out this year.
Wonder no more. Anything else I can copy and paste for you, I asked knowing full well that you would need to be walked like a dog, fed like a baby, and cleaned like a shithouse rat?
"Marianne Ny submitted a request for assistance to U.K. authorities and a request to Ecuador"... "The U.K. foreign office said that its ability to facilitate a meeting with the Swedish prosecutor remains limited with Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy."
Is he currently in the UK as you say? Physically, technically, you could argue that. But he's not really in the UK at all, unless he walks outside.
Are you average? Or below average? Because otherwise your anecdote is just noise in the data.
You failed to graduate a long time ago, where your experience is not relevant to the automated resume filtering in place today. Learn to think is not the lesson.
Learn how the game is played, and play it. Unless you are well above average. Are you average?
It won't work well for people who can't sleep without their spouse or pet next to them, sure. But a controlled study won't do that person any good.
Given my insurance, which is good, it would be cheaper to check in to a hotel and use this app to decide if I need formal diagnosis. By the time it comes out, speech recognition will require the hardware issues be solved, so no hardware expense.
If I feel I have sleep issues and this says no apnea, I can look into other options before incurring medical tests.
And they did test it in lab conditions, during actual sleep studies. But it is a lot simpler to secure your own room for one night, and may replace false positives from an unfamiliar environment, with false positives from a familiar one.
Finally, they are apparently improving the state of the art in signal processing, so most of the readers here statistically don't know what that is, outside of similar reports. Meaning that some of your questions are solved problems, others are newly solved, and the rest being worked on. With a preliminary finding, this is more "neato, look what we found," instead of " we solved every problem."
A jaundiced, skeptical eye would assume that, once in, China would take everything. Or that a previous breach exposed everything already, and that they just got lots of duplicate information (some new, of course).
Are you skeptical of the previous report that "a database containing the personal information of about 4 million current and former federal employees was hacked"? Because that was only part of the truth. Today we learn that it's not just directly federal employees, but indirectly contractors.
Wouldn't you have guessed this from that previous report?
OPM is assessing how many people were affected, spokesman Samuel Schumach said. âoeOnce we have conclusive information about the breach, we will announce a notification plan for individuals whose information is determined to have been compromised,â he said.
I guess that answers your stupid question, right there in the fucking article. As soon as someone can define it for your ignorant retarded face, you can either start to care or point fingers at anyone "stupid enough" to work as a contractor.
Now, what exactly was your point? That the media is making this out to be more than it is? Because it certainly is more than any of the first 3 reports I've read about it. I guess they were right 3 times, but now for some reason this is breathless overproduction for... wait, why exactly?
To get people to read their articles? Oh, snap, you obviously didn't, so their tactics didn't work on you. Kudos for not knowing anything about browser security, and insisting on being an ignorant fuck for the rest of your hopefully short life.
Stop using the internet. You don't know how, and you're just making it worse.
Xbox 360 upscales DVD better than anything I've tried, and media player was at least not noticeably worse.
If the codec or infrastructure remains, and the player itself goes away, that would provide opportunities. But why remove the player unless its all gone?
I can't see the reasoning unless it is patent or contractual. Upscaling to a retina display would be better than showing artifacts, even on a tiny portable screen...
When my beard trimmers, yes that's a thing, from 1998, go dead (3 AA), or my elliptical from 2004 (4 D), or any number of remote controls for my DVD, Xbox, roku, tv, or receiver, die, and I have to rotate batteries to charge them, I would prefer to eke a few more minutes with this.
Alternatively, a charge level indicator so I know going in if I need to rotate and charge.
Build this into devices, switching when the battery dies, would be cool, but additional drain like a charge indicator.
As a guy with batteries, nothing so far has dissuaded me.
I, in contrast with most people, will not be buying the first 6 months. So plenty of time for real measurements before I decide.
I have long held the idea that any law or amendment have some sort of measurable goal, and if that measurement shows no progress in the intended direction in the laws' number of years, that it be automatically rescinded without an extension passed through the same process.
By your logic, Congress would spend 99.9% or more of its time on renewing things that make sense.
I recommend that Congress set a measurable goal, which requires no additional time from Congress, other than that they be aware of the consequences, and unintended consequences, of their laws.
Yes, exactly. They want the same UI everywhere, from a phone to a 4K display. Which is stupid, but exactly their stated plan.
If it seems uninspired to you well, that was not part of the plan.
Adding shadows and other indicators becomes tricky when scaling, given different potential backgrounds and contexts, so they went to the lowest common denominator. Obviously Google and Microsoft chose different paths, but yes exactly planning for a unified interfac is what caused Microsoft to fuck things up starting with Windows 8 and aalmost anything 2012 or later.
The correct answer is Linux is a kernel, not a distro. And distros ate getting better, and the desktop environments are getting better.
I counted two obvious bugs in that demo, one that the presenter apparently stumbled on. A single distro does not really refute a generalization, and one with obvious presentation issues definitely does not succeed.
Or you could be a fucking retard. Or were you pre-emptively replying to retards? Then you're a retard.
Or were you trying to make fun of mpicpp? Because I could do that for you as well. I think information is more effective, but apparently you think that being an asshole or ignorant fuck on the internet is more effective. So now you're the target.
An IPO is where you get stock in exchange for investing in actual production. Or expansion of production.
I bought CMG when it was $25. Except that, to qualify to participate in an IPO you have to be tied in to a financial organization, win a lottery, and show that you can hold on to stock without just flipping it on day 1.
So how was I able to buy it for $42 on day 1?
First, let me say that it's $636.10 right now. Second, I was a long time customer before the IPO, so I knew they had a good business plan that just needed expansion.
I was able to buy it because someone broke the rules. Not the rigid, enforced rules, but the ones that allow that person to participate next time.
That person created money from money, and is likely going to be allowed to participate in the lottery again. You might not believe in making money from money, but these people do.
On that subject, investing in actual production is how you make money from money. I have no actual skin in the game, but I have money in the game.
At the time, per share, the company had a reasonable valuation. Now, it has all of the stores that it expanded into, plus brand recognition, plus a more stable supply line. Plus all of the non-GMO movement energy. Customer loyalty, and piles of stuff that it didn't have before.
Piles of stuff that are not asset-measurable.
Now, for this:
NO OTHER PLACE, other than real estate, precious metals, art, education for yourself, a private business you start, etc.
responding to:
Ever heard of a bubble? There is NO OTHER PLACE LEFT to try to save your money from being inflated away aside from the stock market which is a high risk environment. This is what happens when your central bank cartel keeps interest rates at ZERO for a decade.
Check out Zero Hedge [zerohedge.com] if you want real economic information.
So you're saying that "real estate, precious metals, art, education for yourself, a private business you start etc." are quite volatile.
Real estate is, because it expands faster than it should, then contracts. If you value it properly, it's still a great investment. Buying a house to flip it is not going to work all the time. Precious metals can be manipulated by FUD, and have no inherent value. Art will basically always get more expensive, because you set a reserve at auction. And Picasso is not making more paintings. A private business is basically either going to succeed or fail, all or nothing. Of course they are volatile.
There are no places left to the average investor, other than stocks, because interest rates are zero. T-bills, money market, CDs, interest savings, and lots of other things are losing money due to inflation.
How much money am I going to invest in real estate? I don't, as an average person, have enough for a second mortgage. Precious metals? no. Art? Can't afford. Education? I have a degree in one field, and work in another. I don't need education. Private business? I don't have enough cash to be a franchisee, so I have to place it all on a private business.
And then there's your core objection. You don't believe in the secondary stock market, where the money doesn't go to the business, but to the people who bought in early. And you oppose having someone manage your funds, so you do a little better or a little less worse than someone else - you pay someone to watch the markets and make an informed decision on what to trade. That's the little off the top you talk about, and people do notice.
But I also make my own picks, and I've been overall successful because I take the time to understand the business before buying secondary market stocks. I don't have the time to do that full time, so I pay someone to do it.
So your argument is left to pedantry, the kind where you want exclusive ownership of the now genericized "engineer" tag. well, fire up the coal engine on a choo choo train or shut the hell up.
I was going to write: "Basic technical safeguards are now enabled by default" is nowhere in the same ballpark as "turned over a new leaf and won't secretly collaborate with government spies" and you are an ignorant fuckhat for wasting our time with this nonsense. Clearly I have nothing better to do than lambaste the illiterate in order to hopefully correct some small portion of this type of idiotic behavior, but that's far more useful to society than either willful misinterpretation or blatant stupidity.
But I think you covered the essence, so no need for me to pile on
K&R C came out in 1978, and I have the 1988 second edition, where a lot of the syntax had been changed. This would have been terrible advice in those years between.
We now have ANSI, ISO, C99, C11, and Embedded C.
Which one(s) will not be deprecated in 25 years?
While I agree, "C" is not specific enough. I don't have the answer, and I'm not sure anyone will.
Assuming goes a long way here. Maintaining for 25 years does not mean built, qualified, and expected to run. If that's the case, no one cares about maintainability 25 years into the future.
"Maintain it organically" doesn't seem like the request, either. OP seems to want to open an environment, patch the code, and rebuild with little fuss. I don't even think that's possible, because you *have* to consider things like the runtime library (embedded systems should have at least minimal libraries, unless you're doing 100% assembler). Security patches mean updates to the environment.
I can only assume the answer is in moving to something like Infocom's Z-machine, or more familiarly Java or .NET, where bytecode is interpreted. The IDE can be the same forever, with patches to the interpreter as needed for security. But that too is problematic without dedication to backwards compatibility.
Microsoft seems settled on .NET 2.0 - but I recently built something that doesn't run on any later version. Builds, starts, but shits itself. I can't speak for Java. But the Z-machine, well WinFrotz still works.
I hate to be on this side of the argument, but MSVC 6.0 used Dinkumware libraries which they could not include in service packs due to license issues. I had some STL code that misbehaved until I spotted a relevant post on that place that no one mentions telling me to upgrade. I think it was std::vector that was fine until you reached 65k entries. Then the vector gets sheared and data is lost.
Switch from something not broken to MSVC, fully patched, and your shit breaks.
It's not likely 16 years later, but there are bugs in strange places. IOW you'd be surprised.
How did we get to qualifying and regulation? OP said maintainable. I can jump to that conclusion too, but I can't see that it's supported.
If your compiler needs security upgrades, I would assume you need to upgrade and re-qualify rather than using Borland C++ Builder 3.0 for the rest of the product's life.
Then I remembered Pascal, and as it turns out Delphi was last updated in 2011.
Then I remembered that if you're doing embedded work on Linux, you can have any gcc back-end and any gcc front-end. So just stay where you are. When LTS ends after 5 years, something is going to have to change. And even meanwhile, a compiler issue may require LTS to update the compiler, and now your compiler needs to be re-qualified or you 1) can't upgrade or 2) can't maintain.
Do not feed the trolls. Unless you're a goat. Are you a goat?
Who does that work? The port, I mean? Or if it's in an emulator, who quality checks it to make sure it even runs? Don't those things cost money? At least you have to pay someone to do it. And if all the developer has to do is opt in, that's Microsoft doing the work.
Microsoft are giving you a way to play games you own, doing the heavy lifting for free, to sell more consoles. That's what this boils down to unless there's a lot more that we don't know about.
1) Get the hardware out the door, with functioning (mostly) games
2) DO NOT make promises you can't keep
3) Get key development shops on board
4) Get some titles ready and tested
5) Announce
It's smart marketing, and not in any way misleading. There was no hidden feature. Unless you think it worked with the announced 100 titles on release day?
It's the first sentence of the fucking article, you retarded idiot.
Wonder no more. Anything else I can copy and paste for you, I asked knowing full well that you would need to be walked like a dog, fed like a baby, and cleaned like a shithouse rat?
"Marianne Ny submitted a request for assistance to U.K. authorities and a request to Ecuador" ... "The U.K. foreign office said that its ability to facilitate a meeting with the Swedish prosecutor remains limited with Assange at the Ecuadorian embassy."
Is he currently in the UK as you say? Physically, technically, you could argue that. But he's not really in the UK at all, unless he walks outside.
Are you average? Or below average? Because otherwise your anecdote is just noise in the data.
You failed to graduate a long time ago, where your experience is not relevant to the automated resume filtering in place today. Learn to think is not the lesson.
Learn how the game is played, and play it. Unless you are well above average. Are you average?
It won't work well for people who can't sleep without their spouse or pet next to them, sure. But a controlled study won't do that person any good.
Given my insurance, which is good, it would be cheaper to check in to a hotel and use this app to decide if I need formal diagnosis. By the time it comes out, speech recognition will require the hardware issues be solved, so no hardware expense.
If I feel I have sleep issues and this says no apnea, I can look into other options before incurring medical tests.
And they did test it in lab conditions, during actual sleep studies. But it is a lot simpler to secure your own room for one night, and may replace false positives from an unfamiliar environment, with false positives from a familiar one.
Finally, they are apparently improving the state of the art in signal processing, so most of the readers here statistically don't know what that is, outside of similar reports. Meaning that some of your questions are solved problems, others are newly solved, and the rest being worked on. With a preliminary finding, this is more "neato, look what we found," instead of " we solved every problem."
A jaundiced, skeptical eye would assume that, once in, China would take everything. Or that a previous breach exposed everything already, and that they just got lots of duplicate information (some new, of course).
Are you skeptical of the previous report that "a database containing the personal information of about 4 million current and former federal employees was hacked"? Because that was only part of the truth. Today we learn that it's not just directly federal employees, but indirectly contractors.
Wouldn't you have guessed this from that previous report?
I guess that answers your stupid question, right there in the fucking article. As soon as someone can define it for your ignorant retarded face, you can either start to care or point fingers at anyone "stupid enough" to work as a contractor.
Now, what exactly was your point? That the media is making this out to be more than it is? Because it certainly is more than any of the first 3 reports I've read about it. I guess they were right 3 times, but now for some reason this is breathless overproduction for... wait, why exactly?
To get people to read their articles? Oh, snap, you obviously didn't, so their tactics didn't work on you. Kudos for not knowing anything about browser security, and insisting on being an ignorant fuck for the rest of your hopefully short life.
Stop using the internet. You don't know how, and you're just making it worse.
I read that as, "know knockout or some other templating library". Because are you going to write your own?
And then you have to learn the library. Or the custom implementation. So you haven't answered what someone needs to know in that situation.
No. You don't LTS the new hotness. Add features, patch them, then support that.
Win 95 rev B, Win 98 SE, latest service pack.. the only difference here is an honest version bump.
Xbox 360 upscales DVD better than anything I've tried, and media player was at least not noticeably worse.
If the codec or infrastructure remains, and the player itself goes away, that would provide opportunities. But why remove the player unless its all gone?
I can't see the reasoning unless it is patent or contractual. Upscaling to a retina display would be better than showing artifacts, even on a tiny portable screen...
When my beard trimmers, yes that's a thing, from 1998, go dead (3 AA), or my elliptical from 2004 (4 D), or any number of remote controls for my DVD, Xbox, roku, tv, or receiver, die, and I have to rotate batteries to charge them, I would prefer to eke a few more minutes with this.
Alternatively, a charge level indicator so I know going in if I need to rotate and charge.
Build this into devices, switching when the battery dies, would be cool, but additional drain like a charge indicator.
As a guy with batteries, nothing so far has dissuaded me.
I, in contrast with most people, will not be buying the first 6 months. So plenty of time for real measurements before I decide.
I have long held the idea that any law or amendment have some sort of measurable goal, and if that measurement shows no progress in the intended direction in the laws' number of years, that it be automatically rescinded without an extension passed through the same process.
By your logic, Congress would spend 99.9% or more of its time on renewing things that make sense.
I recommend that Congress set a measurable goal, which requires no additional time from Congress, other than that they be aware of the consequences, and unintended consequences, of their laws.
Delete your account means what?
Scientology is the only reason that some data has been deleted from Slashdot. But your account is here because why?
Just stop visiting here. Or delete your cookies. Or be responsible for what you have posted. Or you can just plead "I was drunk."
Delete your account has the follow-on effects of, what exactly? What is it that you wish to omit from the record?
Or is it everything? Because unless you are a Scientologist with lots of money, probably nothing will be removed other than your ability to log on.
And log on is different from log in. And Scientology is just the first thing that came to mind.
So that's not going to change? Are you powered by Eliza?
Yes, exactly. They want the same UI everywhere, from a phone to a 4K display. Which is stupid, but exactly their stated plan.
If it seems uninspired to you well, that was not part of the plan.
Adding shadows and other indicators becomes tricky when scaling, given different potential backgrounds and contexts, so they went to the lowest common denominator. Obviously Google and Microsoft chose different paths, but yes exactly planning for a unified interfac is what caused Microsoft to fuck things up starting with Windows 8 and aalmost anything 2012 or later.
The correct answer is Linux is a kernel, not a distro. And distros ate getting better, and the desktop environments are getting better.
I counted two obvious bugs in that demo, one that the presenter apparently stumbled on. A single distro does not really refute a generalization, and one with obvious presentation issues definitely does not succeed.
It is progress.
Ban the tool because of people who misuse it. Sounds like gun control. And religion control. And everything else ever.
The proposed "result" of banning PowerPoint is basically the utopian dream if everyone were using it right. And the whole thing is a presentation.
Katrin Park is an idiot.
I guess you could read this
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2015/...
Or you could be a fucking retard. Or were you pre-emptively replying to retards? Then you're a retard.
Or were you trying to make fun of mpicpp? Because I could do that for you as well. I think information is more effective, but apparently you think that being an asshole or ignorant fuck on the internet is more effective. So now you're the target.
You're not helping.
An IPO is where you get stock in exchange for investing in actual production. Or expansion of production.
I bought CMG when it was $25. Except that, to qualify to participate in an IPO you have to be tied in to a financial organization, win a lottery, and show that you can hold on to stock without just flipping it on day 1.
So how was I able to buy it for $42 on day 1?
First, let me say that it's $636.10 right now. Second, I was a long time customer before the IPO, so I knew they had a good business plan that just needed expansion.
I was able to buy it because someone broke the rules. Not the rigid, enforced rules, but the ones that allow that person to participate next time.
That person created money from money, and is likely going to be allowed to participate in the lottery again. You might not believe in making money from money, but these people do.
On that subject, investing in actual production is how you make money from money. I have no actual skin in the game, but I have money in the game.
At the time, per share, the company had a reasonable valuation. Now, it has all of the stores that it expanded into, plus brand recognition, plus a more stable supply line. Plus all of the non-GMO movement energy. Customer loyalty, and piles of stuff that it didn't have before.
Piles of stuff that are not asset-measurable.
Now, for this:
responding to:
So you're saying that "real estate, precious metals, art, education for yourself, a private business you start etc." are quite volatile.
Real estate is, because it expands faster than it should, then contracts. If you value it properly, it's still a great investment. Buying a house to flip it is not going to work all the time. Precious metals can be manipulated by FUD, and have no inherent value. Art will basically always get more expensive, because you set a reserve at auction. And Picasso is not making more paintings. A private business is basically either going to succeed or fail, all or nothing. Of course they are volatile.
There are no places left to the average investor, other than stocks, because interest rates are zero. T-bills, money market, CDs, interest savings, and lots of other things are losing money due to inflation.
How much money am I going to invest in real estate? I don't, as an average person, have enough for a second mortgage. Precious metals? no. Art? Can't afford. Education? I have a degree in one field, and work in another. I don't need education. Private business? I don't have enough cash to be a franchisee, so I have to place it all on a private business.
And then there's your core objection. You don't believe in the secondary stock market, where the money doesn't go to the business, but to the people who bought in early. And you oppose having someone manage your funds, so you do a little better or a little less worse than someone else - you pay someone to watch the markets and make an informed decision on what to trade. That's the little off the top you talk about, and people do notice.
But I also make my own picks, and I've been overall successful because I take the time to understand the business before buying secondary market stocks. I don't have the time to do that full time, so I pay someone to do it.
So your argument is left to pedantry, the kind where you want exclusive ownership of the now genericized "engineer" tag. well, fire up the coal engine on a choo choo train or shut the hell up.
Not really. We can debate the meaning of tone, but 6 sentences that meet your criteria stop being conversational if they are out of order, or missing.