It would be nice if they hunted them down and prosecuted them; however, I think it is much worse. Does the typical company use Microsoft software? Is it all properly licensed? Shareware registered? They can build a database and calculate the top violators for the so called Microsoft/SPA raids. Ever wonder why so many companies so easily fall for a Total Microsoft Solution after a raid?
Do not use improperly licensed software. It gets expensive if you are caught and coerced into a "settlement."
Leave Left and Right out of this!
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Umm - most mainstream American's believe that when you do work (like, say, writing a program), you deserve to be paid for it. And that the harder people work, the more money they deserve. And some odd concepts like you should be forced to pay for the things that you get to use. Mainstream America is capitalist. Mainstream academia is much more leftist. It is no coincidence that RMS is from MIT and Boston.
Hey, I get paid for something else quite well. I'm a hardware type of guy and I like seeing good quality software to make things turn. Its when I see crap operating systems do unfunny things like dump a blue screen or changing data values that I start getting pissed off. Because I work for someone else, I am forced to watch large powerful and high speed manufacturing machines churn tons of scrap almost daily because of junk software.
I have learned that the software model of secrecy and NDA's is not working very well. GNU offers a freedom synonymous with the ideals this country was claimed to be based upon. If I was working with GNU software, there would be an option to refer the problem to someone who could look at the code and fix it. Freedom of peer review.
GNU software can save many landfills from filling up. Would you trust your business to some operating system made in Redmond?
Where did this come from? What does sex have to do with free software? Why do some people have to inject Freudian into every discussion? Is this another one of Godwin's thread relevancy calculations?
Sex has not been programmed into the kernel yet, so you can move along now. Nothing to see here.
Hmm...every revolution needs a leader
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Richard Stallman, on the other hand, is quite abraisive, rude, and thoughtless as to other people.
People who feel threatened by the concept of free software often spread this image about RMS. As for being rude and thoughtless, I would say that he has a straight vision. RMS will not sell out to other people. He is a quickdraw when it comes to correcting people. Believe it or not there are some people who are not offended by such ways of communication and use it to escalate the debate to new hights. Leaders do not break down to logic and accept what is pushed at them are strong. He has vision and is not afraid to share it.
My take on RMS asserting authorship is that he is trying to maintain some kind of balance on who did what. Nothing wrong with that. This is where all these debates about what free software means to people come from too. RMS is doing a good job bringing these issues into awareness.
Whoa! WHOOAAA! Enjoy the discussion.
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I cant tell you how disgusted I am at the CONTINUING backstabbing within the community, the seeming LACK OF TOLERANCE, and general disdain for those who arent the leaders of the day (especially those who held the title yesterday).
Calm down. This is healthy discussion and is good for you. There is a need for topics like this to be brought up so we may understand the importance of free software. That is why it was brought up again. No blood is being drawn here and most people do not get hurt feelings, but learn and gain from this forum. Even though a lot of strong opinionated discussion what free software really means, it is quite educational. It is a good topic, not something to hurt one another with.
This is a wealth of articles from zdnet and is reading for a whole weekend. I must say I am impressed! Will they put this in the print mags for the masses?
And no doubt that is why he is so bitter about not being internationally acclaimed.
That may be your perception. He may be setting a precedent for getting recognition. How would you like to write a set of utilities and have some large corporation come along and mask what you wrote with a different brand? That can be useful, but can be misleading.
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by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 06, @04:52 Well, we have RMS to thank for this bit of FUD to hurt the Free Software Movement. Thanks Stalin!
Wrong. If you want to be working for the communist good, let Mr. Gates continue his path and you will be working for his good. After all, he innovated the internet, the computer, and many of those other things on the Microsoft Time Line. You are the one spreading FUD.
There is nothing wrong having personal freedoms. There is something wrong with having your life tightly controlled and that you must pay a high tax for everything that can be commoditized. RMS asks for nothing but freedom.
Microsoft must keep those stock prices in a certain direction. Its like buying into an obese dinosour trying to devour everything in sight. One of these days, its going to come crashing down in a spectacular display of flatulence because it cannot stay up.
RMS sacrificed much in his life and what that means to me that there is hope that I will not have to put up with NT and other strange things at work that do not always work. Learn from his experiences and you might know how much of an impact his contributions have made. I would hate to think of a world where all of technology was locked up in NDA's.
Now that everyone knows about the rumored NSA (No Such Agency) outpost, now we will get hit with a hidden pork barrelled tax hike for Another No Such Agency (ANSA.) How many of these spy organizations do we have? Who can buy into these ventures?
I'm trying to mirror it too. On the T1, it started out as 25K/sec, now it is down to 2.5K/sec, and by the end of the day I suspect it will be 25bytes/sec.:(
I met a few people in Lawrence, Kansas who used to work for Martin-Logan who made some of these. They are speakers that use a near-zero mass driving element controlled by static electricity. The theory is: mass of the element is negligable, an almost perfect, pure, rich sound can be replicated. The disadvantage is that the amplifier has to be at least a half a kilowatt for accurate reproductions.
I have heard from these membrane speakers and it is a real experience. They are costly due to the voltage multipliers, the rack mounted amplifier, and the source of the music.
But its worth it if you have the money and the space to put these works of art in your living room. If you are tired of the sound heavy diaphrams of speakers produce and tweaters seem to resonate harmonics, these are a godsend.
At least Rob has a sense of humor and is humble enough to put something like that on/. polls. The usual 10% minority seem to vote in that slot. If Mr. Berst had this selection, his job would be up for review very soon and MS stock could not save him. hehehehee!!!
of course most Linuxites are 16-years old with absolutely no revenue
There were a few polls about this a while back that contradict this claim. Also I'm twice that age making twice the average family income. Not that age matters. I wish I was 16 again learning with Linux and having to relearn everything in a way that will not be outdated 3 or 30 years from now.
A lot of these devices use off-the-shelf general-purpose contrillers that may or may not be aware of the date, and that may or may not crash because of it, depending on the chip.
Are these chips microcontrollers? Where is this list? Or is this those old famous bios clock cards that were in 8088 computers that can no longer run Microsoft software? Who is this senator and does this list show actual part numbers, ie: 68HC11E2?
I still think this is a scam blown up to sensational proportions. A better use of our money may be spent on fixing current bugs, like in NT. We know the company who should be responsible for those damages. Would you like to know NT is being used in production lines now? Want to know how much scrap can be produced due to one malfunction or crash?
tell that to the patient who's dialysis machine's just crashed...
A dialysis machine has no business knowing what year it is anyway. All devices should be kept simple, rather than adding every possible feature and bug.
when we have buggy software from Redmond, people should be used to computers and bank machines crashing now. They know the routine. Hit the little button in front.
Seems like politicians are getting lobbied and taxpayers are getting scammed by irresponsible businesses that hire and buy incomp programmers. They want to be bailed out with all these studies.
The most comfortable computer experience that I know is to stretch out on a recliner in any position with the computer on a table at its side, the keyboard (dvorak, of course!) on an armrest, and the mouse slides very well across the fabric. This has got to be the laziest way possible to sit at a computer.
To finish off the experience, all my CD's are ripped to mp3's, because loading the tray every time I get sick of a song gets old quick.
Looks like just a great bunch of people that have helped contribute a great experience on a grand scale. For a commercial Linux site, this looks like a good link not to be ashamed about. There seems to be great potential for professionalism, eye candy, and a good way to get the suits and family type looking.
In my opinion, a board does not get any better than that! I am amazed that they sacrificed the time and committed to it and hope they will enjoy it all the way. They need support and are worthy of it.
I'm sure they will be there. There were three of them at the ALS in October. I bet there is now an increased interest. Maybe they will just send some consultants, but this time without the company tshirts.
I wonder how the msnopoly justifies raiding Linux shops with sales teams in attempts to get them hooked back on Windows. What kind of dirty tricks they will go to when they know NT is junk. Here was my favorite quote:
YOUNG: We've been aware that Microsoft sales teams have been going out to our key accounts and actually trying to switch them away from Linux to Microsoft products. Three years ago when we first became aware of this.
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I bet they look for Warez d00ds with it.
It would be nice if they hunted them down and prosecuted them; however, I think it is much worse. Does the typical company use Microsoft software? Is it all properly licensed? Shareware registered? They can build a database and calculate the top violators for the so called Microsoft/SPA raids. Ever wonder why so many companies so easily fall for a Total Microsoft Solution after a raid?
Do not use improperly licensed software. It gets expensive if you are caught and coerced into a "settlement."
Umm - most mainstream American's believe that when you do work (like, say, writing a program), you deserve to be paid for it. And that the harder people work, the more money they deserve. And some odd concepts like you should be forced to pay for the things that you get to use. Mainstream America is capitalist. Mainstream academia is much more leftist. It is no coincidence that RMS is from MIT and Boston.
Hey, I get paid for something else quite well. I'm a hardware type of guy and I like seeing good quality software to make things turn. Its when I see crap operating systems do unfunny things like dump a blue screen or changing data values that I start getting pissed off. Because I work for someone else, I am forced to watch large powerful and high speed manufacturing machines churn tons of scrap almost daily because of junk software.
I have learned that the software model of secrecy and NDA's is not working very well. GNU offers a freedom synonymous with the ideals this country was claimed to be based upon. If I was working with GNU software, there would be an option to refer the problem to someone who could look at the code and fix it. Freedom of peer review.
GNU software can save many landfills from filling up. Would you trust your business to some operating system made in Redmond?
Where did this come from? What does sex have to do with free software? Why do some people have to inject Freudian into every discussion? Is this another one of Godwin's thread relevancy calculations?
Sex has not been programmed into the kernel yet, so you can move along now. Nothing to see here.
Richard Stallman, on the other hand, is quite abraisive, rude, and thoughtless as to other people.
People who feel threatened by the concept of free software often spread this image about RMS. As for being rude and thoughtless, I would say that he has a straight vision. RMS will not sell out to other people. He is a quickdraw when it comes to correcting people. Believe it or not there are some people who are not offended by such ways of communication and use it to escalate the debate to new hights. Leaders do not break down to logic and accept what is pushed at them are strong. He has vision and is not afraid to share it.
My take on RMS asserting authorship is that he is trying to maintain some kind of balance on who did what. Nothing wrong with that. This is where all these debates about what free software means to people come from too. RMS is doing a good job bringing these issues into awareness.
I cant tell you how disgusted I am at the CONTINUING backstabbing within the community, the seeming LACK OF TOLERANCE, and general disdain for those who arent the leaders of the day (especially those who held the title yesterday).
Calm down. This is healthy discussion and is good for you. There is a need for topics like this to be brought up so we may understand the importance of free software. That is why it was brought up again. No blood is being drawn here and most people do not get hurt feelings, but learn and gain from this forum. Even though a lot of strong opinionated discussion what free software really means, it is quite educational. It is a good topic, not something to hurt one another with.
This is a wealth of articles from zdnet and is reading for a whole weekend. I must say I am impressed! Will they put this in the print mags for the masses?
And no doubt that is why he is so bitter about not being internationally acclaimed.
That may be your perception. He may be setting a precedent for getting recognition. How would you like to write a set of utilities and have some large corporation come along and mask what you wrote with a different brand? That can be useful, but can be misleading.
by Anonymous Coward on Saturday March 06, @04:52
Well, we have RMS to thank for this bit of FUD to hurt the Free Software Movement. Thanks Stalin!
Wrong. If you want to be working for the communist good, let Mr. Gates continue his path and you will be working for his good. After all, he innovated the internet, the computer, and many of those other things on the Microsoft Time Line. You are the one spreading FUD.
There is nothing wrong having personal freedoms. There is something wrong with having your life tightly controlled and that you must pay a high tax for everything that can be commoditized. RMS asks for nothing but freedom.
Microsoft must keep those stock prices in a certain direction. Its like buying into an obese dinosour trying to devour everything in sight. One of these days, its going to come crashing down in a spectacular display of flatulence because it cannot stay up.
RMS sacrificed much in his life and what that means to me that there is hope that I will not have to put up with NT and other strange things at work that do not always work. Learn from his experiences and you might know how much of an impact his contributions have made. I would hate to think of a world where all of technology was locked up in NDA's.
Yep, I need to go to bed. I might start seeing things if I have another cup of coffee.
Here is a question for the conspiracy theorists: two minutes after I posted this silly thing about the NSA, I get a lone hit on my web page:
/~dattaway HTTP/1.0" 301 189
193.128.12.45 - - [26/Feb/1999:07:11:02 -0600] "GET
Name: gatekeeper.legal-aid.gov.uk
Address: 193.128.12.45
Aliases: 45.12.128.193.in-addr.arpa
UK and ARPA in one nslookup address. Is this scary or what? Who is this? Why is my web page interesting?
Now that everyone knows about the rumored NSA (No Such Agency) outpost, now we will get hit with a hidden pork barrelled tax hike for Another No Such Agency (ANSA.) How many of these spy organizations do we have? Who can buy into these ventures?
I'm trying to mirror it too. On the T1, it started out as 25K/sec, now it is down to 2.5K/sec, and by the end of the day I suspect it will be 25bytes/sec. :(
I met a few people in Lawrence, Kansas who used to work for Martin-Logan who made some of these. They are speakers that use a near-zero mass driving element controlled by static electricity. The theory is: mass of the element is negligable, an almost perfect, pure, rich sound can be replicated. The disadvantage is that the amplifier has to be at least a half a kilowatt for accurate reproductions.
I have heard from these membrane speakers and it is a real experience. They are costly due to the voltage multipliers, the rack mounted amplifier, and the source of the music.
But its worth it if you have the money and the space to put these works of art in your living room. If you are tired of the sound heavy diaphrams of speakers produce and tweaters seem to resonate harmonics, these are a godsend.
"Jesse Berst is an ass"
/. polls. The usual 10% minority seem to vote in that slot. If Mr. Berst had this selection, his job would be up for review very soon and MS stock could not save him. hehehehee!!!
At least Rob has a sense of humor and is humble enough to put something like that on
of course most Linuxites are 16-years old with absolutely no revenue
There were a few polls about this a while back that contradict this claim. Also I'm twice that age making twice the average family income. Not that age matters. I wish I was 16 again learning with Linux and having to relearn everything in a way that will not be outdated 3 or 30 years from now.
A lot of these devices use off-the-shelf general-purpose contrillers that may or may not be aware of the date, and that may or may not crash because of it, depending on the chip.
Are these chips microcontrollers? Where is this list? Or is this those old famous bios clock cards that were in 8088 computers that can no longer run Microsoft software? Who is this senator and does this list show actual part numbers, ie: 68HC11E2?
I still think this is a scam blown up to sensational proportions. A better use of our money may be spent on fixing current bugs, like in NT. We know the company who should be responsible for those damages. Would you like to know NT is being used in production lines now? Want to know how much scrap can be produced due to one malfunction or crash?
tell that to the patient who's dialysis machine's just crashed...
A dialysis machine has no business knowing what year it is anyway. All devices should be kept simple, rather than adding every possible feature and bug.
when we have buggy software from Redmond, people should be used to computers and bank machines crashing now. They know the routine. Hit the little button in front.
Seems like politicians are getting lobbied and taxpayers are getting scammed by irresponsible businesses that hire and buy incomp programmers. They want to be bailed out with all these studies.
The most comfortable computer experience that I know is to stretch out on a recliner in any position with the computer on a table at its side, the keyboard (dvorak, of course!) on an armrest, and the mouse slides very well across the fabric. This has got to be the laziest way possible to sit at a computer.
To finish off the experience, all my CD's are ripped to mp3's, because loading the tray every time I get sick of a song gets old quick.
Looks like just a great bunch of people that have helped contribute a great experience on a grand scale. For a commercial Linux site, this looks like a good link not to be ashamed about. There seems to be great potential for professionalism, eye candy, and a good way to get the suits and family type looking.
In my opinion, a board does not get any better than that! I am amazed that they sacrificed the time and committed to it and hope they will enjoy it all the way. They need support and are worthy of it.
I'm sure they will be there. There were three of them at the ALS in October. I bet there is now an increased interest. Maybe they will just send some consultants, but this time without the company tshirts.
leave a few nice color copies of these toons bundled in with the promo stuff in the seats to humor the next round of folks!
Yes, Linux now can do BSODs with the GNOME BSOD xsrceensaver in the latest release. Its for those people that miss blue screens.
I wonder how the msnopoly justifies raiding Linux shops with sales teams in attempts to get them hooked back on Windows. What kind of dirty tricks they will go to when they know NT is junk. Here was my favorite quote:
YOUNG: We've been aware that Microsoft sales teams have been going out to our key accounts and actually trying to switch them away from Linux to Microsoft products. Three years ago when we first became aware of this.