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So I'm here at the Babylon Cafe, and all these people are chatting and
drinking and having fun, and I'm in the corner posting
morph- is asking for someone
with a lick of design sense to design a Logo for SlashNET- email
him if you come up with one. 600x150 pixels on black.
mschmitt linked us to the
UNIX pronunciation HOWTO.
Carlie Fairchild wrote
in to plug The Linux Journals online Store.
An anonymous reader sent us a link to an InfoWorld article
that talks about the recent
warring in the
free software movement.
President John F. Kennedy wrote in
to tell us that Propoganda 4 is out if
you're looking for sweet background images.
cpfeifer sent us
a link to a site that is selling aluminum
light sabers. I bet they
don't work, but I still want one.
Brian Craft sent
us a link to the most Unusual Ergonomic Keyboard
that I've seen in awhile.
Lord Hiades sent us a link
to a t-shirt based on
Adminspotting.
cpfeifer sent us a link
to The Jesus Dance.
An anonymous reader sent us a link to a freaky site where you can get
funky
contacts to scare your friends with.
An anonymous reader sent us a link to the
truth about
Steve Balmer
Anybody got $85 to loan me for a light saber???
*ugh*
I couldn't see having a keyboard at my sides. My shoulders end up getting tired from my arms hanging down.
I like my elbows on the arms of my chair, with my wrists resting on the edge of my desk. I find it's really comfortable that way.
Go here.
It's actually here. ..
Nor tcl as "tickle", among others I have differing opinons on. :) I hate these kinds of lists...too easy to step of peoples toes. :D
It looks like Perens was complaining that *Linus or RMS* didn't get the award, not himself...
depending on which type you pick. Ouch. If they get more volume, maybe those prices would drop.
If they cost $50 I would buy two or three pairs.
Mark
When I was just a little more clueless then now I thought .shtml was some kind of protest against html files...
Is it so-lar-is or solaris?
(As in semi-circle, and demi-moore)
Any acronym without a vowel should not be pronounced phonetically!
I am tired of hearning people trying to pronounce "snmp" as if it were a word without trying to use a vowel sound! Even worse is when people insert vowels to be able to pronounce acronymns. This is totally ambiguous: I.E is SQL "Sequel, Suquel, Saquel or Soquel"?
I certainly don't pronounce AIX 'aches' or HPUX 'hpuchs'. Everybody I know pronounce it "esh-pee-you-ex". Also, "effsuck"? :)
Personally, I don't like pronouncing "chone" and "ch'mod". I pronounce 'em "see-esh mod" and "see-esh own". =:)
AIX is pronounced aches
vi is pronounced vee eye
ed and ex are pronounced ed and ex
gif is pronounced with a hard g, not like jif
Well, considering that SQL was originally going to be named SEQUEL, I think it's fair to pronounce it that way.
Carlie,
You're a Slashdot reader? I'm impressed.
I think you are the cutest female linux user I have ever met. Will you marry me?
Oh PLEASE:
/etc pronounced "et-see"?? "Etcetera"!
I hate that page with a vengence.
:D
I don't anything about politics but he makes some damn fine backgrounds.
Does anyone know what mp3(?)-player it is down there in the corner on this propanda screenshot?
It turns out that an "ergo" stamp is an excuse to charge truly absurd
amounts of money of very common equipment... like $500 for a keyboard, or $200 for a mouse.
Amen - I had no ideas these prices were so obscene until the
Hey if you can slap something together that works for you go for it.
The other thing that's pricey are the damn keyboard holders - good ones are around $200.00 -
I'd pay about $100.00 for one of those really nice ergo keyboards (so would alot of people, I'm sure). But that's not the point - I'd buy one MUCH quicker at $100 (in fact, I'd probably buy two).
I really wonder though, how much these guys paid Malda to get that site listed as a quickie. I mean really, even Altavista should reject that one. They didn't make the sizes of their images match up, they left borders in the table -- they probably made it with frontpage.
Who knows how many high-quality web sites by independent producers get deleted by Malda and his "armada of trained mammals" just so we can get crap like this?
I always remember it from something that said "It's JIF as in jiffy not GIF as in gift."
Please, Someone tell me those light sabers are real. PLEASE!
Perhaps I am just a dreamer.
Not to mention SQL is sequel according to
everyone I know who actually uses the thing.
Half the things on that list are either
completely a matter of taste or just plain
wrong. What a poo-head, indeed!
I can just see BG in overalls:
"We're gonna make you SQL like a pig, boy..."
jafager
Actually, I always though of Balmer and Gates as being more like Pinky and the Brain.
"Gee Bill, what do you wanna do tonight?"
"Same thing we do every trade show, Balmer; TRY TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!"
Whether it's good or not, I hope the guy patents that thing before M$ beats him to it, then sues his pants off.
My uderstanding is that some large software company patented the pronunciation gif as in jif.
The pronunciation gif as in gig is used as a way to avoid paying royalties.
bperkins@netspace.org
Shrug, I pronounce PCMCIA "pook mookie uh"
It has vowels...
It's GQMPEG with custom skin
~ is certainly "twiddle" when used in a computer
context, as in "Do an ell-ess of twiddle john to
see what he's got".
fsck is "fisk", also used as an expletive as in,
"What the fsck happened to my hard drive?"
ed is "ed" and ex is "ex", but du is "dee you". "ed" is also "the standard text editor".
/var is "varr" and
latex is "lah-teck", with plenty of phlegm. Short
'a' in the first syllable.
gif is with a hard g, not a soft g/j sound. Soft
g is the official/marketing way of saying it.
Real people avoid that.
Similarly, IS lamers and marketroids who want to
sound like kewl techies to the suits say "earl";
people who write code say "you-are-ell".
There is no commonly accepted pronunciation of
Linux; lih-nucks is slightly more common than
lie-nucks, but lie-nucks is considered more
analagous with the name Linus. Lee-nooks is also
used frequently, in jest.
daemon is usually "day-mun", which is odd since
ae is normally a long e sound (e.g. caeser).
You mean to say that light actually emits from them and then stops abruptly at a sword like lenght?
As Linus would pronounce it, it would be....
Li-nx
Li as in Litmus as in Litmus paper.
nx as in unix.
What is the correct way? In English, the name Linus is pronounced Lie-Nus as n Lie-Nuts, without the T. So Pronouncing linux similarily would be equally correct. I mean... most of the english-speaking north-american linux world calls it that way any way.. just like the peanuts character.
Yep. Made it with alien technology decoded by Albert Einstein and Elvis working in secret.
;)
Now take yer Ridelin!
Last! h0h0h0
If you look at the video, you'll see a glare on the saber on the left which slides from the top to the middle and back to the top as it is swung. This seems to indicate that a glass rod has been inserted into the saber which emits blue light to illuminate the rod.
i never tried this, but i've seen PC/2 splitter and i assume that you can just use two keyboards and merge the signals from the two to one. i can't see why not.
but i'm not gona spend that money to try cuz my wrist is fine.my eyes are in trouble.
anyone?
uh, i have a NEC p1250+, 90 lbs, i think i won't trust anything to hold it on top of me on a recliner. i wanna die in one piece.
This is probably supposed to be "army of trained squirrels." When you submit a story, the form submit confirmation says "Our army of trained squirrels will now look at your submission."
Propaganda is a secret government program begun several decades ago by JFK. The eventual goal is total world domination.
What's with this pronouncing on acronyms?? In Canada, we spell them out.
HP-UX is "h pee you ex"
AIX is "ey eye ex"
chown is "see h own"
chmod is "see h mod"
du is "dee you"
/etc is "slash ee tee see"
egcs is "ee gee see ess"
vrml is "vee ar em el"
GUI is "gee you eye"
FAQ is "eff ay que"
UPS is "you pee ess"
Got it? We wouldn't spell out WYSIWYG, because that would be stupid.
Insanity at it's finest.
.shtml (server-parsed HTML) = shit mill.
Ooh, SlashNET.. Isn't that the place with those people that do stuff or something? Thought so.
Hey!! It's RMS!
Pronouncing VI as vye will immediatly brand you as a newbie in several circles.
I read the internet for the articles.
There was an article about that thing here ages ago... well, Internet ages, anyway. Six months or so.
what about vim (the new-and-improved vi)? vih-m or vee eye em?
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Yeah well the creator of Linux pronounces it lee-nooks (listen to the .au), but nobody listens to him do they?
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
Yes, but SQL (as in the SQL database control language) is pronounced as "sequel" by anybody I've ever known who uses it.
10 PRINT CHR$(205.5+RND(1)); : GOTO 10
I pronounce SVR4 as "Sis-five-are-four"
I pronounce daemon as "day-mun" (beacuse I am not a moron).
I pronounce ed as "Ed" and vi as "Veye" (eye with a V sound in front).
I pronounce lib with a short "i" sound. Yes, I know it's short for "library," but I like the way it sounds with a short i better.
.gif is pronounced with a hard "g," otherwise we're talking about peanut butter.
~ is "tild-uh" I don't know where this guy gets "twiddle." Never heard that in my life.
Biggest pronounciation war I have with my roommate: I say "debian" with a short "e" and he says "deebian" with a long "e"
However, I am right about everything, because I said so.
Posted by The guy in the next cubicle:
Jif is peanut butter, not an image format.
Posted by The guy in the next cubicle:
The original Latin pronunciation of Ceasar was *probably* "Kay-zar" or "Kay-sar." C had a hard C sound, ae was pronounced "ay." I spend most of my time doing Liturgical Latin pronounciation (I sing in a choir), in which it would be pronounced "Chay-sar." But ae always, always, always carries an "ay" sound, not an "ee" sound.
Just because it isn't common in English doesn't mean you can't strip the vowels when pronouncing something. I pronounce "SQL" as "sql". When I feel the need to put in vowels I say "squirrel", but that's not often.
Don't label something "offtopic" unless you know the topic well enough to tell what's on topic.
Dnash did some really awesome work for me last Halloween. I wish I had a picture that shows my fangs. They're very realistic and I get quite a few double- and triple-takes. The comment I get most often is "Wow, those look REAL!"
:)
Having the dental mold made was the trickiest part; it took me a while to explain to the dentist exactly what I wanted a mold for. Once he was enlightened, he was happy to make the mold and prescribe a shade for a nominal charge.
Just as Dnash's page claims, they fit so well that they don't require any adhesives at all.
Caring for them isn't as hard as the website makes it out to be; you do have to be careful, but I've seen them survive a three foot drop to the floor.
Finally, the overriding reason I picked Dnash for this particular service (and yes, he DOES have competition): Dnash seems to have very strong ethics. He chooses molding and sculpting methods that produce the best product at the least risk to the customer's dental health. He lets you know exactly what you can expect, and he delivers. For something as expensive as these fangs, that's important.
Yes, I have been known to wear them at work.
No, I've never drawn blood with them.
--Threed
Petreley misses the real advantage to developers of an open source OS. It's not the level playing field, it's having no insurmountable obstacles to doing one's development. With Windows, driver or OS problems are largely unsolvable -- if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. And if the documentation is wrong, you have no way of knowing how the code really works.
Likewise, open source development tools can be a big win, simply because developers can fix problems with them. I work doing NT development with Visual C++, and there are an amazing number of little delays here and there. I try to open a file -- and type the filename well before the "File Open" dialog appears. I'd also like to see color syntax highlighting for parentheses and brackets, but there's no way for me to do it with Visual C++. Open source dev tools would be nice not because of the cost -- the cost is far less than salaries -- but because of the things I could fix and improve, and thus save time and get more done.
Ooh, a sarcasm detector. Oh, that's a real useful invention.
I actually had a boss once who raised concerns over this .shtml stuff on our web pages. She demanded to know why I couldn't change it to something with less chance to offend. This was at a large university where this kind of thing was not at all unusual. The end result was that we ALWAYS spelled out the acronym.
I couldn't stop laughing at the Balmer comparison. I can only imagine that they were making similar noises at the time.
It was funny. Hence, you're wrong.
What's with this pronouncing on acronyms?? In Canada, we spell them out.
GUI is "gee you eye"
FAQ is "eff ay que"
Um, nobody says Gee You Eye. Gooey is a pronunciation that even novices today know. Fack is universal too.
CaseyB
Canadian, last he checked.
Looks like K-Jofol. iirc it's a winblowz player that uses the mpg123 engine. I don't think it's been ported to Linux yet so it's probably running through Wine or just a skin for some other player, like eMusic or something. Email the guy and ask him.
[ If progress is to move forward, is Congress to move back? >8-} ]
Heh - Gary, are you reading this? If the Crocketts don't make it big, at least this Aberystwyth offering will hang around... :)
Instead of hacking up a keyboard, why not use a whykey adapter? It merges the output of two keyboards into a single stream of keystrokes. Much easier that way.
-russ
The most comfortable computer experience that I know is to stretch out on a recliner in any position with the computer on a table at its side, the keyboard (dvorak, of course!) on an armrest, and the mouse slides very well across the fabric. This has got to be the laziest way possible to sit at a computer.
To finish off the experience, all my CD's are ripped to mp3's, because loading the tray every time I get sick of a song gets old quick.
Just some crap Bowie Poag came up with after he got bored of saying that "AmIgA r00lz Pc sux" and advocating violence against homosexuals.
what the hell is this propaganda thing?
can anyone help me...
Producing satire is kind of hopeless because of the literacy rate of the American public. - Frank Zappa
When my friend answers the phone at work, he says "A I X tech support..."
not a word in it's own right ... unlike etcetera which is pron et set-ra (from the latin blah blah)
SQL was not "originally going to be called SEQUEL". SEQUEL was another language that SQL was developed to replace. That's why you should pronounce SQL "S-Q-L", not "sequel", because the latter refers to the language SQL replaced.
I sometimes like to call SQL "squeal" though... It's non-ambiguous, and it gets on the nerves of people who write SQL.
Any acronym without a vowel should not be pronounced phonetically!
If it ain't pronounced phonetically, it ain't an acronym at all.
I miss Meept.
I just checked sci.space* for references to this thing, and it is being taken seriously. It may not work, or be economical, but it is a valid concept.
Of course, my first reponse was "How Preposterous!", and then I tried to see if I could spot where they photoshopped the image together, but no, it's actually real.
And if it works, DAMN cool!
All opinions expressed herein are my own, and not those of my employers, who are appalled.
So you greet your friends with "Aitch-eye", and refer to 3 and a bit as "Pee eye"?
;-)
And what about the jazz "So danso samba, so danso samba, vi vi vi vi vi"?
The last of course was a red herring. Everyone knows that the Knights Who Say Ni pronounce it "knee", in a shrieky voice.
I thought # was hash, or sharp. What's an octothorpe when it's at home? Or even when it's at college writing a program to generate pee-eye
I've yet to see anyone justify the pronunciation of "vi" as "vee-eye" without their eyes watering and them bawling "it just sounds dumb". That's not an argument. Drawing a parallel with "hi" and "pi" however _is_ a valid argument, and until I hear better I'm sticking with "vie". I MIGHT be persuaded to join the Knights (why, are they coming apart?) and pronounce it (shriek) VEE!
--
I don't have a lift, I have a program.
: Emergency Medical Hologram, Voyager.
lift^He
Okay, so I should have used submit.
Cor, you should have seen the flames when I missed out an "R" and an "H" and just referred to "Linux 5.2". The ultimate in elevator lacking ess ay dee cases really came out of their shells (pun intended).
I love the adminspotting shirt idea, when I first saw the adminspotting post, I took it and made it into a 11x17 poster (grey-scale laser), and it's been on several walls in this area ever since. I should try to use the D size plotter I have access to... that could be cool...
Bring on more quickies!
I pronounce "HP-UX" as "aitch-pee-sucks".
I don't know what I am...
http://www.wild-eyes.com/
I've heard it pronounced 'squeal'...trust me, hearing Sequel is much better.
Jesse
Yeah, I remember his gifviewer program (Was that what it was called?) for DOS like ten years ago had a sample GIF of him in front of the red rocks of Sedona and in big blocky letters it said something like
GIF-- It's prounounced "JIF"!
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This is my SIG. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
I like slashdot's green logo, why change it? I'd imagine once the logo is changed the whole site would have to change somewhat as well..I mean, what's the point?
--
"Insert witty quote here."
...for years, as a kid, I'd dreamed of these things. Reading Gibson's Virtual Light only managed to reinforce the desire ;)
..i should try one
<^>_<(ô ô)>_<^>
All acronyms are meant to be pronounced. Not all abbreviations are. There is a difference. But really, it all depends on what everybody says. Are you going to get really annoyed the next time someone says "SCSI"?
I tried saying "Krahn" and it made me sound American. I've always pronounced it "cron" :)
That would probably be more difficult to make, ironically. Specs for the signals being sent are reportedly very difficult to actually find, and I strongly suspect that there is state information stored in the keyboard, which means messy synchronization between them. In my younger days, I installed my own int 9 handler on an x86, and was amazed at the strangeness that came down the line (multiple codes encoding certain single keys, among other things).
By all means go for it if you want to, but I'd probably stick to soldering if I were to do this myself
Depending on the setup, two USB keyboards might be an option. You might be able to get away with just writing a custom driver to merge the input streams and duplicate the output stream.
You are, of course, missing the main point which is that "jif" sounds really dumb.
-lx
With you talking like that, it would take forever! There's nothing wrong with pronouncing your acronyms, it makes speech more efficient. If you're going to spell out all of them, you might as well just say what they stand for.
-lx
I agree with the Iron Rule of Acronym pronunciation, almost.
Solaris=so-lar-is
ex=ex
ed=ed
vi=vee-eye, because "vie" sounds stupid.
etc=et-see
var=var like car, but with a v.
lib=lib because that's how it's spelled.
latex=latek the x is the greek character.
gif=gif because jif sounds excessively dumb.
#=octothorpe, it has an e on the end.
~=tilde duh. there's little enough tilde awareness as it is.
daemon=day-mon might as well, because the it's 'ae' instead of the squished together a and e.
fsck=fsck that's not that hard, cmon.
chmod=chmod
chown=chown that's a simple one!
so there. now you never have to worry about it again.
-lx
*laugh* these people are sick and twisted ;) Who started the 'dance' thing anyway?
If I'm not back again this time tomorrow...
--jon. Postel is dead. May we all mourn his, and our, loss.
Internet Fridge its a fridge with a built in 233 pentium and 32 megs a RAM and win 95. bet you could over clock that puppy like there is no tomorrow!! (depending on where the CPU is of course...)
The basic sleazeware produced in a drunken fury by a bunch of UCBerkeley grad students was still the core of BIND. --PV
Have a look at this guy's arms. They are stick thin. I wonder how much he works out?
If you have arm pains, it may very well be because you don't exercise enough. I've had symptoms like this guy three times. They took months to heal and actually nobody could say what caused them or what made them go away. The last time was longest and most frustrating. I rested well, took medication, got some massage and was careful not to screw up my arms for good. In the end one doctor told me to stop resting. "Work out, type on, use your arms." Well I started throwing shot put, playing volley ball and it helped. My arms healed in less than a week and remained in great shape.
So do take care of your body. Being a geek and not able to type really sucks.
One thing I noticed: On the description of the Destroyer model, it calls it the "Ultimate non-working saber prop." (or something close to that) And I was looking forward to fighting the Evil Armies of Darkness...
Doesn't Linus pronounce Linux Leenix?l ds.au :)
http://www.trigger.net/~aok/articles/LinusTorva
Meh. I'm just recovering from the bad habit of Lyenix.
I figure, pronounce it how you want, i can't hear you.
"You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help" -- Calvin
Shouldn't it be Lah-teck?
Just remember: It's all fun and games `til someone loses an eye ... then it's just fun.
Ummm... That has got to be either too much or not enough.
(At least if my Con days back in the ealy 80's is any indiciation...)
-B
Ash and Hickory, straight-grained and true, make excellent bludgeons, dandy for the cudgeling of vegetarians.
That silly poo-head got a bunch just plain wrong! Sh-bang my big fat butt -- that's `pound-bang' where I come from, Hoss. And SVR4? How about `ess vee are four', the way the folk who developed it say it?
You guys do realize that it's only a matter of time until we get the "Mr. T ate my Balls Dance" web site...
Hmmmmmmm...
- Give a man a fire and he's warm for a day, but set him on fire and he's warm for the rest of his life.
Tell your roommate he owes you a beer. It's "debian" (short e), named for Deb and Ian Murdoch.