And just out of curiosity, what right was being trampled on here? The Bill of Rights actually says very little about the right to privacy.
Don't get me wrong, I think that what the school is doing is a waste of time and money. I skimmed the article and the school claims it's basically being implemented so they know where and when students get on and off the bus. i.e. if Little Johnny get's off at the wrong stop, the school can now figure out which stop he got off at and when. Presumably, they could even enhance the system so it warned the driver if Little Johnny was getting off at a non-assigned stop.
My wife and I use a much more effective non-technical solution to this problem for our children. We've told our children which stop is theirs. They get off at it. The couple of times my son has fallen asleep and missed his stop, he either (a) got off at the next nearest stop and walks home or (b) rides back to the school and calls one of us.
I've never been to Polk County. Is it such a dangerous place that schools need to track the whereabouts of students at all times? What are they afraid of?
This is only true for suitably strict definitions of the term "bug". O/S changes, configuration changes, hardware changes, data changes, requirements changes can all lead to "bugs" that should not be covered under the initial terms of development (and are rarely covered under the initial development contract).
If, due to bugs in your program, it does not perform exactly as specified
I have yet to see the customer that wants to pay to have the developer specify "exactly" how software will perform. I could see this being easily as expensive as the actual development cost (after all if every coding path was perfectly documented, it should be pretty trivial to actually write the code).
Additionally, requirements can be misinterpreted between the customer and developer, such that the developer believes the system is working perfectly, while the customer thinks it is broken.
Look and feel "bugs" may exist where the customer expects a certain usability that is either non-standard or not explicitly covered under the requirements.
The problem is he OP hasn't specified exactly what kinds of bugs he won't pay for.
If it is a case of scope creep, poor requirements, poor communication of requirements, new operating environments, new data configurations, etc and he wouldn't pay, then I'd hesitate to work for him either.
A much better practice would be for him to pay for bugs, but be choosy on which developers he re-uses. In any other profession, the cost of "mistakes" are passed along to the customer. While building a new building, if the electrician installs a plug then realizes "oops, this is supposed to be a GFCI plug", it's not like he stops the clock, goes and gets a new plug, removes the old plug, installs the new one and restarts the clock. He gets paid for the cost of his "mistake".
My question would be: Why is the customer seeing these bugs at all? Sounds like more of an issue with a poor software development lifecycle than an issue with coders trying take advantage of him.
Others loaded that data onto any plastic card with a magnetic stripe — an old hotel key card or an expired credit card worked fine as long as it carried the account data and correct access codes
Magnets!
Is there anything they can't do?
But seriously, why is of this of note? I'm pretty sure any magstrip carrying the right codes would work.
It sounds interesting for about 5 seconds, until you realize it's absolutely wrong.
Yep, I came to the same conclusion about 4.8 seconds after reading. It's a well constructed argument, it just doesn't have anything to back it up....
Does the GP not remember the 70's and 80's? 90% of people in North America watched the same shows on television,went to the same movies, listened to the same music, dressed the same way, etc.
Yes, there were some regional differences, but even these tended to mesh together after a few years. What the internet has changed is "regional pockets of unique culture" into "unique pockets of culture everywhere".
Right now, I can find groups on the internet devoted to pretty much any kind of music, any kind of movie, any kind of fashion. The internet has made the cultural choices a function of personal preference rather than one of where someone originated.
And please, professional tastemakers?!? Oh, yes, let us all mourn those poor hipsters who used to find the unique and obscure bits of fashion, music, food, etc, water them down into a tasteless paste and regurgitate them back on society. Sorry, but I prefer my culture fresh and original, not run through the meatgrinder and seasoned with WASP sensibilities.
The mass of the solar system was already here 4.7 billion years ago and is now just a bit more concentrated,
Well that's being pretty pedantic. I would argue that the mass of the solar system is different than "the Sun".
Likewise, the universe is expanding at an increasing rate when simple gravity would state it should be slowing down.
The universe is expanding an increasing rate due to dark energy & the expansion of space. There are galaxies the universe whose light (and gravity) have not yet reached earth, but potentially will in the future.
but at 10 miles per second I believe it's got enough velocity to escape the Sun's gravity.
Oops...my bad....bad napkin calculation.....correct, at 10 miles/sec, it will escape the Sun's gravity
You wouldn't argue that Voyager is still under the Earth's influence would you? i.e. Voyager left Earth's gravity well
No, it hasn't. You are conflating the terms sphere of influence and gravity well. If the Earth were to suddenly disappear, there would be a small but measurable effect on Voyager.
Sorry, but I've had fraud committed against my credit card twice, so I do have an idea of how it "can fuck you over". Or in fact, how it really doesn't if you have any kind of intelligence.
Seriously, you missed all those payments cause someone charged $3000 fucking dollars on your fucking credit card? What are you, a fucking moron?
Who doesn't save up at least a tiny bit of money (say 3 months salary) in case of a fucking emergency? Seriously, what would you have done if your fucking furnace suddenly needed fucking replacing? What the fuck would you have fucking done if your fucking roof had fucking leaked?
For me, it took all of 2 hours on the phone, and perhaps an hour reading/signing an affidavit indicating it in fact was fraud. Someone had gotten a hold of our card and/or number, copied it, and was getting cash-back at gas stations in another province. I was pretty annoyed, as it was a chip-card (so should not have been easily copyable), but was informed "oh, we haven't activated the chip system yet". I was also pretty annoyed that they managed to get out $7000 in cash over the course of a week, and the credit card company didn't think this was suspicious behaviour.
It did take a couple of months to get things fully straightened out and get our money back, but it didn't affect our credit at all.
And seriously....based on your post you make $117,000 a year. Grab a fucking clue and get yourself some fucking savings.
Nice try but the problem here is that Bill donates to a "third party" that is really working to further his and his friend's interests and always will.... The small time businesses in the third world that were trying to sell these things get wiped off the map.
Yes...all those poor small time businesses in the third world that were working to eradicate HIV or polio.
Those mom-and-pop water sanitation plant workers, and family planning councilors losing their jobs and forced to live on the street. How very sad.
Please...sell your crazy somewhere else. We're all full up here.
WTF? I'm gonna assume this was intended to be funny, but it's sitting at +3 Interesting
1) Code.org is not run by microsoft. It's a non-profit founded by Hadi Partovi
2) Code.org doesn't promote microsoft coding habits. I can't actually find any microsoft languages on their site.
3) I'm not cetain who "they" refers to in the 3rd sentence, but Code.org doesn't have anything to say about outsourcing tech jobs. If it's referring to Microsoft, then Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Cisco and Intel also signed the letter requesting an overhaul of the tech visa system
4) westerners who...think independently. Yep, that's some pretty "independent" thinking thinking you've got going there. It's so independent, it may form it's own little country with a flag and national anthem.
5) This is all helped by a whole host of corporate artists, celebrities, and other proffesional astro-turfers. Huh?
Sadly, as bat-sh-t crazy as your description was...it still made more sense than the article.
Gravity works over practically infinite distance. It just gets so small as to be negligible. There's a point where the gravity from the Sun is no longer as powerful as the gravity from the rest of the universe and I'd say that's the point at which it's SOI realistically ends.
Somewhat incorrect (probably). As gravity (most likely) propagates at the speed of light, there is a limit to the distance at which it has any effect.
As the Sun is only 4.6 billion years old, any point in the universe more than 4.6 billion light years away feels no gravitational effect from the Sun whatsoever.
Of course, Voyager will never reach a point of "zero influence" (nor will anything from our solar system), and in fact will eventually be pulled back into the Sun.
WTH? Those links don't say the things you say they do.
The worst indictment I see following those links to their original source is that the Gates foundation buys stock in arguably unethical companies (oil and gas companies primarily). I see nothing in those links about Paul Allen, or about "boosing their friend's revenues".
Oh, and BTW....slashdot is not a great source for meaningful sources of information. If you want to link, link to the original sources of your claims.
There is so much wrong with this summary, I don't even know where to begin: - Did the poster just learn about hyperlinks? The posting looks like the time my 3 year old got into my wife's makeup - Did we need hyperlinks to items like Don Careleone's quote? The venue of the Partner's in learning conference? A picture of James Ewing standing in front of a trifold? - ti;dr; too incoherent, didn't read. The posting seems to be a bunch of ramblings attempting to draw connections between the Gates foundation, Code.org and immigration reform. It reads like the worst of conspiracy theories...detailing a bunch of information in a sequence that makes it appear to be connected, but without actually providing any connections - Extraneous information much? What does the letter that sent to Obama have to do with anything? Why the link to what Microsoft's PiL's classroom should look like? What does the Godfather quote have to do with anything?
Just wondering how long it will take you to realise that none of these changes make them different species.
That's what I thought too, but then I actually looked it up and found the GP is actually right. Two groups of animals can be morphologically the same, but still considered different species due to natural inhibitions against interbreeding.
Although lower courts have upheld First Sale Doctrine re: copyrighted software for resale on Ebay and Amazon, it was reaffirmed here by the Supreme Court.
But what's really scary is 3 dissenting opinions on what should have been a clear-cut slam-dunk 9-0.
I just don't understand why(in the presence of free, solid, easily available 3rd party firmware) vendors keep spending on developing in-house or licenced firmware that has all kinds of nasty personality issues, time after time.
My guess? Cause most managers don't have a real firm grasp on software development, and the smart software developers convince their managers to keep development in-house (job security).
"International" means "national" in the US. They assume that anything that applies to them, applies to everyone else, and if it doesn't, it doesn't for a reason that doesn't concern them, being as they are clearly foreigners and are just being different for the sake of being different.
All of which simply shows that irrational beliefs can effect people. Not that they are in any way valid, nor that those who hold them should be treated any more than irrational.
Huh? So you maintain that it is irrational to hold a belief that provides a tangible benefit?
Heck, I'd try to convince myself to believe in God, Cthulhu, or the FSM if I thought it would provide any benefit. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any evidence that it does...
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And just out of curiosity, what right was being trampled on here? The Bill of Rights actually says very little about the right to privacy.
Don't get me wrong, I think that what the school is doing is a waste of time and money. I skimmed the article and the school claims it's basically being implemented so they know where and when students get on and off the bus. i.e. if Little Johnny get's off at the wrong stop, the school can now figure out which stop he got off at and when. Presumably, they could even enhance the system so it warned the driver if Little Johnny was getting off at a non-assigned stop.
My wife and I use a much more effective non-technical solution to this problem for our children. We've told our children which stop is theirs. They get off at it. The couple of times my son has fallen asleep and missed his stop, he either (a) got off at the next nearest stop and walks home or (b) rides back to the school and calls one of us.
I've never been to Polk County. Is it such a dangerous place that schools need to track the whereabouts of students at all times? What are they afraid of?
So do I:
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It's the only way to be safe.
This is only true for suitably strict definitions of the term "bug". O/S changes, configuration changes, hardware changes, data changes, requirements changes can all lead to "bugs" that should not be covered under the initial terms of development (and are rarely covered under the initial development contract).
I have yet to see the customer that wants to pay to have the developer specify "exactly" how software will perform. I could see this being easily as expensive as the actual development cost (after all if every coding path was perfectly documented, it should be pretty trivial to actually write the code).
Additionally, requirements can be misinterpreted between the customer and developer, such that the developer believes the system is working perfectly, while the customer thinks it is broken.
Look and feel "bugs" may exist where the customer expects a certain usability that is either non-standard or not explicitly covered under the requirements.
The problem is he OP hasn't specified exactly what kinds of bugs he won't pay for.
If it is a case of scope creep, poor requirements, poor communication of requirements, new operating environments, new data configurations, etc and he wouldn't pay, then I'd hesitate to work for him either.
A much better practice would be for him to pay for bugs, but be choosy on which developers he re-uses. In any other profession, the cost of "mistakes" are passed along to the customer. While building a new building, if the electrician installs a plug then realizes "oops, this is supposed to be a GFCI plug", it's not like he stops the clock, goes and gets a new plug, removes the old plug, installs the new one and restarts the clock. He gets paid for the cost of his "mistake".
My question would be: Why is the customer seeing these bugs at all? Sounds like more of an issue with a poor software development lifecycle than an issue with coders trying take advantage of him.
Others loaded that data onto any plastic card with a magnetic stripe — an old hotel key card or an expired credit card worked fine as long as it carried the account data and correct access codes
Magnets!
Is there anything they can't do?
But seriously, why is of this of note? I'm pretty sure any magstrip carrying the right codes would work.
Yep, I came to the same conclusion about 4.8 seconds after reading. It's a well constructed argument, it just doesn't have anything to back it up....
Does the GP not remember the 70's and 80's? 90% of people in North America watched the same shows on television,went to the same movies, listened to the same music, dressed the same way, etc.
Yes, there were some regional differences, but even these tended to mesh together after a few years. What the internet has changed is "regional pockets of unique culture" into "unique pockets of culture everywhere".
Right now, I can find groups on the internet devoted to pretty much any kind of music, any kind of movie, any kind of fashion. The internet has made the cultural choices a function of personal preference rather than one of where someone originated.
And please, professional tastemakers?!? Oh, yes, let us all mourn those poor hipsters who used to find the unique and obscure bits of fashion, music, food, etc, water them down into a tasteless paste and regurgitate them back on society. Sorry, but I prefer my culture fresh and original, not run through the meatgrinder and seasoned with WASP sensibilities.
Yes, but you can for a:
plumber
painter
electrician
furnace duct cleaner
maid
nanny
drywaller
etc.
Basically if you are going to someone else's private property to perform work, they can legally monitor your activities and pay you accordingly.
No, despite what your mom told you, you aren't special. It's just that latent feeling of entitlement that programmers get due to a lack of sunlight.
Welcome to the club.
Backward compatibility?
Isn't that a little like asking your toaster to be backward compatible with your blender? They are totally different franchises.
Mmmmmm....toasted smoothie.....
No, we're not. As Mark Twain has famously said:
"Never argue with stupid people. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience."
The same goes for trolls.
Yes, Nixon lead the US out of the war....after extended that war for 5 years longer than it should have gone on for.
Way to go, Dick.
Well that's being pretty pedantic. I would argue that the mass of the solar system is different than "the Sun".
The universe is expanding an increasing rate due to dark energy & the expansion of space. There are galaxies the universe whose light (and gravity) have not yet reached earth, but potentially will in the future.
Oops...my bad....bad napkin calculation.....correct, at 10 miles/sec, it will escape the Sun's gravity
No, it hasn't. You are conflating the terms sphere of influence and gravity well. If the Earth were to suddenly disappear, there would be a small but measurable effect on Voyager.
Sorry, but you are quite simply wrong here.
Gravitational fields propagate at the speed of light.
And yes, they move.
Oh Noes! What will I do?!?! You won't buy my software cause it phones home?!
How will I ever live with the loss of that one user? How will I feed my children?
WILL NO ONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?
Sorry, but I've had fraud committed against my credit card twice, so I do have an idea of how it "can fuck you over". Or in fact, how it really doesn't if you have any kind of intelligence.
Seriously, you missed all those payments cause someone charged $3000 fucking dollars on your fucking credit card? What are you, a fucking moron?
Who doesn't save up at least a tiny bit of money (say 3 months salary) in case of a fucking emergency? Seriously, what would you have done if your fucking furnace suddenly needed fucking replacing? What the fuck would you have fucking done if your fucking roof had fucking leaked?
For me, it took all of 2 hours on the phone, and perhaps an hour reading/signing an affidavit indicating it in fact was fraud. Someone had gotten a hold of our card and/or number, copied it, and was getting cash-back at gas stations in another province. I was pretty annoyed, as it was a chip-card (so should not have been easily copyable), but was informed "oh, we haven't activated the chip system yet". I was also pretty annoyed that they managed to get out $7000 in cash over the course of a week, and the credit card company didn't think this was suspicious behaviour.
It did take a couple of months to get things fully straightened out and get our money back, but it didn't affect our credit at all.
And seriously....based on your post you make $117,000 a year. Grab a fucking clue and get yourself some fucking savings.
Yes...all those poor small time businesses in the third world that were working to eradicate HIV or polio.
Those mom-and-pop water sanitation plant workers, and family planning councilors losing their jobs and forced to live on the street. How very sad.
Please...sell your crazy somewhere else. We're all full up here.
WTF? I'm gonna assume this was intended to be funny, but it's sitting at +3 Interesting
1) Code.org is not run by microsoft. It's a non-profit founded by Hadi Partovi
2) Code.org doesn't promote microsoft coding habits. I can't actually find any microsoft languages on their site.
3) I'm not cetain who "they" refers to in the 3rd sentence, but Code.org doesn't have anything to say about outsourcing tech jobs. If it's referring to Microsoft, then Facebook, Yahoo, Google, Cisco and Intel also signed the letter requesting an overhaul of the tech visa system
4) westerners who...think independently. Yep, that's some pretty "independent" thinking thinking you've got going there. It's so independent, it may form it's own little country with a flag and national anthem.
5) This is all helped by a whole host of corporate artists, celebrities, and other proffesional astro-turfers. Huh?
Sadly, as bat-sh-t crazy as your description was...it still made more sense than the article.
Somewhat incorrect (probably). As gravity (most likely) propagates at the speed of light, there is a limit to the distance at which it has any effect.
As the Sun is only 4.6 billion years old, any point in the universe more than 4.6 billion light years away feels no gravitational effect from the Sun whatsoever.
Of course, Voyager will never reach a point of "zero influence" (nor will anything from our solar system), and in fact will eventually be pulled back into the Sun.
WTH? Those links don't say the things you say they do.
The worst indictment I see following those links to their original source is that the Gates foundation buys stock in arguably unethical companies (oil and gas companies primarily). I see nothing in those links about Paul Allen, or about "boosing their friend's revenues".
Oh, and BTW....slashdot is not a great source for meaningful sources of information. If you want to link, link to the original sources of your claims.
There is so much wrong with this summary, I don't even know where to begin:
- Did the poster just learn about hyperlinks? The posting looks like the time my 3 year old got into my wife's makeup
- Did we need hyperlinks to items like Don Careleone's quote? The venue of the Partner's in learning conference? A picture of James Ewing standing in front of a trifold?
- ti;dr; too incoherent, didn't read. The posting seems to be a bunch of ramblings attempting to draw connections between the Gates foundation, Code.org and immigration reform. It reads like the worst of conspiracy theories...detailing a bunch of information in a sequence that makes it appear to be connected, but without actually providing any connections
- Extraneous information much? What does the letter that sent to Obama have to do with anything? Why the link to what Microsoft's PiL's classroom should look like? What does the Godfather quote have to do with anything?
Worst Slashdot Article Ever (so far this week).
That's what I thought too, but then I actually looked it up and found the GP is actually right. Two groups of animals can be morphologically the same, but still considered different species due to natural inhibitions against interbreeding.
But what's really scary is 3 dissenting opinions on what should have been a clear-cut slam-dunk 9-0.
I think Agent K said it better:
"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."
Maybe "you" should "put" your "tinfoil" hat back "on", Cause those of "us" in the "real" world think "you" might be "bat-shit" crazy.
Yeah, I can really see the CIA calling up random companies and saying "hey, can you please hire a few of our guys so they can spy on foreigners"?
Don't you think it would be far easier (and more secure) for them to just set up their own front company?
My guess? Cause most managers don't have a real firm grasp on software development, and the smart software developers convince their managers to keep development in-house (job security).
Yes, if only there were some sort of international date format. Perhaps one agreed to by some sort of International Standards Organization. And if only that date format had the month prior to the day ....then we could rightly call this International Pi Day.
Well, it's a good thing nothing like that exists. I wouldn't want it to get in the way of some childish US bashing.
Huh? So you maintain that it is irrational to hold a belief that provides a tangible benefit?
Heck, I'd try to convince myself to believe in God, Cthulhu, or the FSM if I thought it would provide any benefit. Unfortunately, I haven't seen any evidence that it does...
Grammar nazi time:
affect, not effect