I agree that it's much more cost effective to figure out you have a problem earlier than later. Something to keep in mind though is that Software Engineering Economics was originally published in 1981. The software development landscape has changed drastically since then. New tools and methodologies do make a difference. For example, he was likely basing his numbers on the waterfall development model which has tons of problems in it's own right. Toolsets like RAD environments and continous build/integration tools allow for software to be more of an ongoing experience with the users rather than a step by step process filled with black boxes along the way.
At the end of the day the only constant is change. No matter how much time you spend in the requirements phase your users will think of more ideas when they finally see the application.
Do it right the first time and you don't have to worry about it later.
Assuming you know the right way the first time you do something. Software isn't static, and nearly all requirements are fluid. By the time it's done right the requirements have changed and what you've done is no longer what's needed.
It's a UI thing for me. Usually while I'm working I have 6 or so tabs up at the same time. If I was using IE this means each IE window would be taking up a spot on my taskbar (winxp fixed this some with the same program stacking thing). Add in Outlook, various dev environments, and anything else I need while developing and you can start to see why it really helps to have all the web type stuff grouped into tabs.
For me personally what it comes down to is trust..
I don't trust any piece of software to be completely bug free and never corrupt data, even my own. That's why I have a backup system in place for the event when (NOT if) something in the system fails.
Maybe the poor shouldn't be watching so much TV anyways. Without TV lets hope that they might go read or attend a class and just maybe do something about their situation.
The mmo genre is based on keeping subscribers, the thing that makes people stay around is a slow and steady content feed.
If people have gotten to the point where they think content == camping the same mob for hours to get an item, then we have made zero inroads into game design.
There as a good show on the History channel about area 51. Some people who worked there got really sick. The sick people took the gov. to court and the gov. argued that since where they worked didn't exists they could be in no way liable. How everyone in the courtroom kept a straight face I have no idea. I think the conclusion came with the gov. never having to admit anything, but to stop burning unknown nonexistent chemicals upwind of the nonexistent base where these people had worked.
I think the $356 listed is for both WSJ and Barons. IIRC for $180/year you can get WSJ delivered to your house.
Also the article summary is outright wrong. Their online version isn't making 20 times more than the paper version, their profit margins are 20 times better. Makes sense when you consider how much it probably cost to print and ship out the dead tree version to running a website.
Hmm, Voodoo2 is old days now? IMHO the real leap came when the original voodoo came out. They pretty much changed PC gaming forever. I remember the first time I saw glquake on my Diamond Monster Voodoo card and basically told everone I knew they had to have one.
You're right, that is a positive of c/c++ over VB. The problem is that pro/con only comes into play when cross platform code is something that you need to have.
I've grown tired of these x language is better than y language debates. Instead I propose to pick the tool best suited for the job at hand. Sometimes the best tool ends up being VB (the classic one, not VB.net).
Actually, American citizens who are being held in this way are on American soil. They are held up in a naval brigg. The people a guitmo are are basically captives/POWs who were not US citizens.
For the American citizens (ones being held here in the US) a judge recently ruled against the gov. and basically said to either charge them with something or let them go.
Unless you were being forced to do something illegal it doesn't make a lot sense to quit a job before having another one lined up. It sucks to be forced into an unfun job situation but there is a reason why work is called work. Sometimes you have to do things that suck. Good luck on finding another job.
Since all you did was try to discredit the source and none of the information in the report I guess the entire report must be false. First bullet actually points to a report from the UN (but we can't believe them either).
According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO, North American forest cover expanded nearly 10 million acres (4 million hectares) over the past decade. Source: 2001 State of the World's Forest Report.
The report also doesn't appear to be making any outrageous claims that every forest area is still intact from 100s of years ago or anything along those lines. They even say a large % of the US forest land is part of commmercial forestry interests.
If you don't agree with what was stated, then please show some references to a more unbiased report of the numbers.
LOL, I was listening to Air America radio soon after the tsunami. They had a guy on who claimed that building basements weakened the tensil strength of the earths crust and caused earthquakes and hence the tsunmai.
Everyone with a basement should be ashamed of yourself!
realize that the whole idea of a MMORPG game is it's somewhere people go to escape the real world and play together on an equal footing.
There is no such thing as equal footing in these games. Generally whoever plays more will be better off. Sure, you can say that one day you'll get sword of pwning, but by then sword of pwning +2 will be out. No one is on equal footing in the game world just like in life.
It may be against the TOS, but that doesn't make it illegal. Worse case is you end up in breach of contract, best case is that a judge decides what I do outside of a game world is not controllable by a game company.
In short, the Clinton deal engaged North Korea and would have worked to stop or slow their weapons programs. Bush stopped the Clinton deal's funding and changed to a hard-line approach, and now we see ourselves in the present situation.
Are you kidding? Clinton and Carter made the huge mistake of believing the crazy NK dictator. He said "I don't have any weapons and don't want to make any," and they basically said "cool, here's $10B and some plans to make these types of reactors."
If anything Clinton and Carter failed miserably, because they failed to realize NKs bluff and not play hardline enough to force them allow inspections ect...
In short Clinton/Carter are the ones who allowed this current situation to happen. Bush is now in the hard position of trying to clean it up. If you want to bash Bush, then bash him for how he's handling the situation that was handed to him. Don't try to blame the NK situation on him though.
I was using your logic and stating the opposite. You personally might never pay for it, but you can't extrapolate your personal experience to everyone. Piracy does equate to some sort of loss for the company whose software is being pirated. Like I said before, it's not 100%, but it certainly isn't 0% either.
In the end though, by pirating MSs software you are helping their cause. If you want to use it, pay for it. If you don't want to pay for (because like you said you wouldn't use it anyways if it wasn't free), then find something else to use in it's place. You must have tons of alternatives since you're only using Windows to begin with because you can get it for free.
I personally hope MS puts the lockdown so hard that their paying customers start leaving. It would be the equivalent of Wal-Mart frisking everyone as the left to stop theft.
You can't claim either way by your arguement. If you couldn't have pirated it you would've paid for it because you obviously wanted to use the product.
Is 100% of piracy equal to 100% of money lost? No, but it's just as foolish to think the opposite.
Then don't use Windows at all (and for that matter don't download music either)!!
If you hate MS quit being a hypocrite and don't use their products. All people like you do is help their cause by giving them marketshare ammo and ammo the seek stricter copyright laws and enforcement.
I never will understand the mentality here on/. Everyone says XXX sucks, but immediately goes and downloads it for free then claims they wouldn't have bought it anyways?/boggle
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I agree that it's much more cost effective to figure out you have a problem earlier than later. Something to keep in mind though is that Software Engineering Economics was originally published in 1981. The software development landscape has changed drastically since then. New tools and methodologies do make a difference. For example, he was likely basing his numbers on the waterfall development model which has tons of problems in it's own right. Toolsets like RAD environments and continous build/integration tools allow for software to be more of an ongoing experience with the users rather than a step by step process filled with black boxes along the way.
At the end of the day the only constant is change. No matter how much time you spend in the requirements phase your users will think of more ideas when they finally see the application.
Do it right the first time and you don't have to worry about it later.
Assuming you know the right way the first time you do something. Software isn't static, and nearly all requirements are fluid. By the time it's done right the requirements have changed and what you've done is no longer what's needed.
It's a UI thing for me. Usually while I'm working I have 6 or so tabs up at the same time. If I was using IE this means each IE window would be taking up a spot on my taskbar (winxp fixed this some with the same program stacking thing). Add in Outlook, various dev environments, and anything else I need while developing and you can start to see why it really helps to have all the web type stuff grouped into tabs.
For me personally what it comes down to is trust..
I don't trust any piece of software to be completely bug free and never corrupt data, even my own. That's why I have a backup system in place for the event when (NOT if) something in the system fails.
Maybe the poor shouldn't be watching so much TV anyways. Without TV lets hope that they might go read or attend a class and just maybe do something about their situation.
The mmo genre is based on keeping subscribers, the thing that makes people stay around is a slow and steady content feed.
If people have gotten to the point where they think content == camping the same mob for hours to get an item, then we have made zero inroads into game design.
I want real game content, not tedium.
Better yet just start putting in things like Pizza Tokens that drop. Imagine seeing this in chat..."I'm broke and hungry, gonna go farm for a pizza."
We joke, but there are some interesting that could come out of this.
True, plus the photos were obviously taken on a clear day which allows for planes to take off and land closer together.
There as a good show on the History channel about area 51. Some people who worked there got really sick. The sick people took the gov. to court and the gov. argued that since where they worked didn't exists they could be in no way liable. How everyone in the courtroom kept a straight face I have no idea. I think the conclusion came with the gov. never having to admit anything, but to stop burning unknown nonexistent chemicals upwind of the nonexistent base where these people had worked.
I think the $356 listed is for both WSJ and Barons. IIRC for $180/year you can get WSJ delivered to your house.
Also the article summary is outright wrong. Their online version isn't making 20 times more than the paper version, their profit margins are 20 times better. Makes sense when you consider how much it probably cost to print and ship out the dead tree version to running a website.
Exactly. He had to use either the client or server or both to reverse engineer it. If he wasn't directly using it then someone else was for him.
He says he didn't use BitMover during his efforts, but without BitMover where did he generate packets to reverse engineer from?
Hmm, Voodoo2 is old days now? IMHO the real leap came when the original voodoo came out. They pretty much changed PC gaming forever. I remember the first time I saw glquake on my Diamond Monster Voodoo card and basically told everone I knew they had to have one.
it's cross platform
You're right, that is a positive of c/c++ over VB. The problem is that pro/con only comes into play when cross platform code is something that you need to have.
I've grown tired of these x language is better than y language debates. Instead I propose to pick the tool best suited for the job at hand. Sometimes the best tool ends up being VB (the classic one, not VB.net).
Actually, American citizens who are being held in this way are on American soil. They are held up in a naval brigg. The people a guitmo are are basically captives/POWs who were not US citizens.
For the American citizens (ones being held here in the US) a judge recently ruled against the gov. and basically said to either charge them with something or let them go.
Unless you were being forced to do something illegal it doesn't make a lot sense to quit a job before having another one lined up. It sucks to be forced into an unfun job situation but there is a reason why work is called work. Sometimes you have to do things that suck. Good luck on finding another job.
Since all you did was try to discredit the source and none of the information in the report I guess the entire report must be false. First bullet actually points to a report from the UN (but we can't believe them either).
According to the United Nations Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO, North American forest cover expanded nearly 10 million acres (4 million hectares) over the past decade. Source: 2001 State of the World's Forest Report.
The report also doesn't appear to be making any outrageous claims that every forest area is still intact from 100s of years ago or anything along those lines. They even say a large % of the US forest land is part of commmercial forestry interests.
If you don't agree with what was stated, then please show some references to a more unbiased report of the numbers.
Facts are fun.
The USA is actually doing pretty well in the forest department.
LOL, I was listening to Air America radio soon after the tsunami. They had a guy on who claimed that building basements weakened the tensil strength of the earths crust and caused earthquakes and hence the tsunmai.
Everyone with a basement should be ashamed of yourself!
realize that the whole idea of a MMORPG game is it's somewhere people go to escape the real world and play together on an equal footing.
There is no such thing as equal footing in these games. Generally whoever plays more will be better off. Sure, you can say that one day you'll get sword of pwning, but by then sword of pwning +2 will be out. No one is on equal footing in the game world just like in life.
It may be against the TOS, but that doesn't make it illegal. Worse case is you end up in breach of contract, best case is that a judge decides what I do outside of a game world is not controllable by a game company.
In short, the Clinton deal engaged North Korea and would have worked to stop or slow their weapons programs. Bush stopped the Clinton deal's funding and changed to a hard-line approach, and now we see ourselves in the present situation.
Are you kidding? Clinton and Carter made the huge mistake of believing the crazy NK dictator. He said "I don't have any weapons and don't want to make any," and they basically said "cool, here's $10B and some plans to make these types of reactors."
If anything Clinton and Carter failed miserably, because they failed to realize NKs bluff and not play hardline enough to force them allow inspections ect...
In short Clinton/Carter are the ones who allowed this current situation to happen. Bush is now in the hard position of trying to clean it up. If you want to bash Bush, then bash him for how he's handling the situation that was handed to him. Don't try to blame the NK situation on him though.
I was using your logic and stating the opposite. You personally might never pay for it, but you can't extrapolate your personal experience to everyone. Piracy does equate to some sort of loss for the company whose software is being pirated. Like I said before, it's not 100%, but it certainly isn't 0% either.
In the end though, by pirating MSs software you are helping their cause. If you want to use it, pay for it. If you don't want to pay for (because like you said you wouldn't use it anyways if it wasn't free), then find something else to use in it's place. You must have tons of alternatives since you're only using Windows to begin with because you can get it for free.
I personally hope MS puts the lockdown so hard that their paying customers start leaving. It would be the equivalent of Wal-Mart frisking everyone as the left to stop theft.
You can't claim either way by your arguement. If you couldn't have pirated it you would've paid for it because you obviously wanted to use the product.
Is 100% of piracy equal to 100% of money lost? No, but it's just as foolish to think the opposite.
Then don't use Windows at all (and for that matter don't download music either)!!
/. Everyone says XXX sucks, but immediately goes and downloads it for free then claims they wouldn't have bought it anyways? /boggle
If you hate MS quit being a hypocrite and don't use their products. All people like you do is help their cause by giving them marketshare ammo and ammo the seek stricter copyright laws and enforcement.
I never will understand the mentality here on
Would you hire a person who came in for an interview in flip-flops and had ketchup stains on their wrinkled shirt?
I also wouldn't hire someone dressed in the latest high school fad outfit either.