OK, there it is... I found it. He mentions something about ending special tax cuts for companies that outsource...
but then again he also mentions about Bush providing too little in the form of homeland security, which is funny since I distinctly recall him screaming about how Bush is trying to make this all about homeland security and we need to not focus on that... Terrorism and security aren't the issue
Uh, but your own material says it is.
I can understand why he'd want it not to be the issue too. While he's carting around his "band of brothers" he was highly involved with war protests with the Vietnam Vets Against War and Jane Fonda. Many POW/MIA families are pissed at him for his time as the POW/MIA Chairman of the commitee on POW/MIA affairs. His behavior seemed to be more about normalization and less about saving any remaining POWs/MIAs. At the end of his term he simply declared that there were none left alive but didn't list nor look into how they died, who they were, where their remains are.
My point in all of this is, if one misrepresents (read: lies) so freely on one thing (esp something he makes such a big deal about), he'll likely lie on others, and deserves some closer looks.
But at least Kerry seems to read one part of his BS. OF COURSE Kerry screams about it daily. After that econimist's banter about outsourcing "in the long run *probably* being a good thing" with the Media and Dem leaders getting pissed and covering it. I don't think Kerry can do a thing to stop outsourcing, even with stopping the tax breaks.
The funny thing: Clinton's Labor Sec (Robert Reich) said the same aprox the same thing if not worse: "Outsourcing does not reduce the total number of jobs in America,"... "If other countries can do something cheaper we ought to let them do it, and concentrate on what we can do best."
Agreed that Giuliani would be a strong canidate, and I wish I was in some position to vote for the man. Sadly I don't know as much about him as I'd like. I hear good things from every side.
As for Democrats losing the South, despite LBJ's quote it wasn't really until 2000 that many of the states voted for anything republican. Kentucky just this year has it's first republican Governor in something like 40 years, Georgia and Miss. are just now having their first (since 1896).
As far as Democrats and budget balancing, in Indiana a Democratic government put a budget into action that was in the red from day one. They never had the money to cover it, nor anyway to get it. Out of the Southern States (which while admittingly some are having their first Republicans in office others have gone back in forth since the early 80s, such as Alabama) "only 2 send more federal tax dollars to Washington than the federal government spends within those states (Texas gets 96 and Georgia gets 99 for every tax dollar sent to Washington)."
(http://www.consortiumnews.com/2003/120103.html)
This may have more to do with poverty rates than budget balancing but after so many years of democratic government, the economies there aren't looking so hot. (not saying that the government has any control over that, but that has been a campaigning point for all the current Dem. Canidates)
Finally as far as civil liberties and the like. I'm sure refering to the Patriot Act. Have you read it? From what I understand, and I may be mistaken, this has mostly added "express lanes" to the system so they can get wire taps and the like quicker. The requirement for getting them is still the same as before, now there's just a dedicated judge available 24/7 to grant or deny them. Sure TV LOVES to tout the Patriot Act for any arrest that may seem outragious (Alias for instance) but for the most part it cut alot of crap out of the system. That being said there may be some things in there that are limiting, but we got that with Clinton too (DCMA). So I don't think it's Ashcroft and the like at fault but the system in general has been whack of late (read: since Reagan and perahps since always), and that concerns me.
As far as the enviroment, I'm not up to date on that. I know that Bush passed a measure to allow clearing of dead wood from the forest floor in our parks to help prevent fires (fires that raged in america, but in mexico, nut'n despite the same weather conditions). Other than that, I don't know much about what's gone on as of late.
As for the religious views, it's a world view thing, there's no getting it out of people nor what they do. Understand the lack of a belief-system is a belief-system and is just as capible of being shoved in the misc. orfices of those that don't hold to the same. Sure it's frustrating for all, but freedom of religion is a constitutional right.
Let me get this straight? You'd vote *against* someone because the other party might just "win" instead of voting for someone who you yourself feels is more qualified for the job?
Oh wait you said "like", so you vote for the ones whose personalities you like the best - forget qualifications.
We have that problem where I live, and our state deficite is out of control. People vote for the "nicest" guys and then blame the national government for state problems when state officials can't get their jobs done.
oh btw- About that whole "Southern Religous Right", you do know that the south has been a mainstay of the Democratic Party for the last 40 years right? This only changed recently.
If you call a man who sticks his head in a hole (look up the Geonocide in Rowanda - 200,000 dead, only an appology note from Clinton) while he recieves, ahem, generous contributions in the Oval Office a great presidency I'm rather worried for you.
If you would like to cite the economy, and the ammount of jobs then available please tell me what the presidency has to do with the stock market, available jobs, and so on. While it can lower taxes and change things so more money is in the hands of the consumers which drive our economy that doesn't do much other than just that. Finally, the so-called "recession" started 18 months before Clinton was even out of office. That has everything todo with the market and other private factors and very little to do with who was sitting in the White House.
So unless you count "scoring" on the job (a working man's dream I'm sure) and saying "I feel your pain" a lot, I'm not really sure what contributes to making Clinton's presidency "great".
Funny enough when my sister's were traveling Europe back in the 70's they were stopped, and held at the Austrian border because they thought one was a spy. They never did get to go to Austria because by the time they got the correct description and picture sent to the station it was late and they just said "screw it". Nut'n new here, just computers and prints instead of someone's fuzzy memory. If they would have asked for prints and all that crap they could have just headed in after 0 match. Still won't stop me from traveling Europe though.
On a second note, when I was in Tibet with a group of my friends we were tailed the entire time by the Chinese version of the FBI. From what I understand in a country where one in four people is an informant it's pretty common.
Anyone crying foul? Nope.
btw- you can already tell who the Americans are in Europe and abroad, they're twice as loud as everyone else. (and often twice as fat, sadly) *grin*
What of the "Recession" spinsters? Ah never mind that, I'm just curious why if there was a recession I'm still getting and turning down job offers? I've not been out of work yet in this recession.
I'd also say it's a pretty good indicator that things are getting better when a non-profit calls you to offer you a job. That means people are out there and spending money, even giving it away. This isn't recession like behavior.
After the "dot.com" bull crap I feel like CS kids are all running about like a bunch of MLM Salesmen going "Must be the economy! I'm not making money like I used to".
no, the system was just flawed in the first place.
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OK, there it is... I found it. He mentions something about ending special tax cuts for companies that outsource...
... "If other countries can do something cheaper we ought to let them do it, and concentrate on what we can do best."
but then again he also mentions about Bush providing too little in the form of homeland security, which is funny since I distinctly recall him screaming about how Bush is trying to make this all about homeland security and we need to not focus on that... Terrorism and security aren't the issue
Uh, but your own material says it is.
I can understand why he'd want it not to be the issue too. While he's carting around his "band of brothers" he was highly involved with war protests with the Vietnam Vets Against War and Jane Fonda. Many POW/MIA families are pissed at him for his time as the POW/MIA Chairman of the commitee on POW/MIA affairs. His behavior seemed to be more about normalization and less about saving any remaining POWs/MIAs. At the end of his term he simply declared that there were none left alive but didn't list nor look into how they died, who they were, where their remains are.
My point in all of this is, if one misrepresents (read: lies) so freely on one thing (esp something he makes such a big deal about), he'll likely lie on others, and deserves some closer looks.
But at least Kerry seems to read one part of his BS. OF COURSE Kerry screams about it daily. After that econimist's banter about outsourcing "in the long run *probably* being a good thing" with the Media and Dem leaders getting pissed and covering it. I don't think Kerry can do a thing to stop outsourcing, even with stopping the tax breaks.
The funny thing: Clinton's Labor Sec (Robert Reich) said the same aprox the same thing if not worse: "Outsourcing does not reduce the total number of jobs in America,"
Oh I forgot, this is slashdot, we love Clinton.
Ummm, please tell me where Kerry even lays out a plan for the economy? Much less for the issue of outsourcing?
So far his campaign is soley built on "I can beat Bush". There's barely been any mention of the issues except to bash Bush. No plans, no ideas.
Just because someone opposes Bush doesn't mean they think differently on all (any) of the issues.
Hadn't really thought about that angle...
then again with Data on Star Trek TNG they just kept on piling makeup onto him.
nice.
Agreed that Giuliani would be a strong canidate, and I wish I was in some position to vote for the man. Sadly I don't know as much about him as I'd like. I hear good things from every side.
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As for Democrats losing the South, despite LBJ's quote it wasn't really until 2000 that many of the states voted for anything republican. Kentucky just this year has it's first republican Governor in something like 40 years, Georgia and Miss. are just now having their first (since 1896).
http://www.nga.org/governors/1,1169,C_TRIVIA^D_
As far as Democrats and budget balancing, in Indiana a Democratic government put a budget into action that was in the red from day one. They never had the money to cover it, nor anyway to get it. Out of the Southern States (which while admittingly some are having their first Republicans in office others have gone back in forth since the early 80s, such as Alabama) "only 2 send more federal tax dollars to Washington than the federal government spends within those states (Texas gets 96 and Georgia gets 99 for every tax dollar sent to Washington)."
(http://www.consortiumnews.com/2003/120103.html
This may have more to do with poverty rates than budget balancing but after so many years of democratic government, the economies there aren't looking so hot. (not saying that the government has any control over that, but that has been a campaigning point for all the current Dem. Canidates)
Finally as far as civil liberties and the like. I'm sure refering to the Patriot Act. Have you read it? From what I understand, and I may be mistaken, this has mostly added "express lanes" to the system so they can get wire taps and the like quicker. The requirement for getting them is still the same as before, now there's just a dedicated judge available 24/7 to grant or deny them. Sure TV LOVES to tout the Patriot Act for any arrest that may seem outragious (Alias for instance) but for the most part it cut alot of crap out of the system. That being said there may be some things in there that are limiting, but we got that with Clinton too (DCMA). So I don't think it's Ashcroft and the like at fault but the system in general has been whack of late (read: since Reagan and perahps since always), and that concerns me.
As far as the enviroment, I'm not up to date on that. I know that Bush passed a measure to allow clearing of dead wood from the forest floor in our parks to help prevent fires (fires that raged in america, but in mexico, nut'n despite the same weather conditions). Other than that, I don't know much about what's gone on as of late.
As for the religious views, it's a world view thing, there's no getting it out of people nor what they do. Understand the lack of a belief-system is a belief-system and is just as capible of being shoved in the misc. orfices of those that don't hold to the same. Sure it's frustrating for all, but freedom of religion is a constitutional right.
Let me get this straight? You'd vote *against* someone because the other party might just "win" instead of voting for someone who you yourself feels is more qualified for the job?
Oh wait you said "like", so you vote for the ones whose personalities you like the best - forget qualifications.
We have that problem where I live, and our state deficite is out of control. People vote for the "nicest" guys and then blame the national government for state problems when state officials can't get their jobs done.
oh btw- About that whole "Southern Religous Right", you do know that the south has been a mainstay of the Democratic Party for the last 40 years right? This only changed recently.
Especially that intern stuff! So trumped up!
If you call a man who sticks his head in a hole (look up the Geonocide in Rowanda - 200,000 dead, only an appology note from Clinton) while he recieves, ahem, generous contributions in the Oval Office a great presidency I'm rather worried for you.
If you would like to cite the economy, and the ammount of jobs then available please tell me what the presidency has to do with the stock market, available jobs, and so on. While it can lower taxes and change things so more money is in the hands of the consumers which drive our economy that doesn't do much other than just that. Finally, the so-called "recession" started 18 months before Clinton was even out of office. That has everything todo with the market and other private factors and very little to do with who was sitting in the White House.
So unless you count "scoring" on the job (a working man's dream I'm sure) and saying "I feel your pain" a lot, I'm not really sure what contributes to making Clinton's presidency "great".
Sounds like the best industry to be in is Education then eh?
PETA would love *that*!
Hmmm, though I think it might work.
We could use stray cats on mine fields, running about setting `em off.
Dogs with c4 strapped to their sides, toss the bone in the enemy bunker, dog detinates when he gets to the bunker.
I think I'd watch CNN more.
Funny enough when my sister's were traveling Europe back in the 70's they were stopped, and held at the Austrian border because they thought one was a spy. They never did get to go to Austria because by the time they got the correct description and picture sent to the station it was late and they just said "screw it". Nut'n new here, just computers and prints instead of someone's fuzzy memory. If they would have asked for prints and all that crap they could have just headed in after 0 match. Still won't stop me from traveling Europe though.
On a second note, when I was in Tibet with a group of my friends we were tailed the entire time by the Chinese version of the FBI. From what I understand in a country where one in four people is an informant it's pretty common.
Anyone crying foul? Nope.
btw- you can already tell who the Americans are in Europe and abroad, they're twice as loud as everyone else. (and often twice as fat, sadly) *grin*
What of the "Recession" spinsters? Ah never mind that, I'm just curious why if there was a recession I'm still getting and turning down job offers? I've not been out of work yet in this recession.
I'd also say it's a pretty good indicator that things are getting better when a non-profit calls you to offer you a job. That means people are out there and spending money, even giving it away. This isn't recession like behavior.
After the "dot.com" bull crap I feel like CS kids are all running about like a bunch of MLM Salesmen going "Must be the economy! I'm not making money like I used to".
no, the system was just flawed in the first place.