Just because someone has written some code and has poor personal hygiene doesn't mean what they think is the end-all of a topic, much less that everything that comes out of their mouth is some fantastic headline.
That's you, though. Most people believe that because they have anti-virus software they CAN safely run anything. I still find it an amusing shame that people are so willing to accept the huge performance penalties of anti-virus and now anti-spyware/adware for their utterly broken OS. Intel and AMD have to love this arms race.
Not true. The application just reads and writes from a socket, not caring what the endpoint of that socket is. Then entire application could be written in a way that it never even knows what the IP address is... Only the operating system need know. And as far as the operating system is concerned, it is simply pushing random bits through an interface. To create a link between the two might fall under the "extra creation". Even though all the information is technically in the RAM, it is more like a jigsaw puzzle than a real document.
Lower priced alternatives that don't work particularly well or are missing functionality. I use my DSM-520 constantly, but the interface is still primitive, supported formats for both audio and video are lacking and the HDMI output didn't work properly with a Samsung LCD TV I had... I actually returned a TV that cost 4x the player to exchange it for one with a crummier interface that it did work properly with:) -- playing videos from my PC is that important!
If someone can figure out how to make an AppleTV into a kickass MythTV frontend, I'll be buying 3 or 4 of them.
If you check Garmin's product line, I believe the auto-specific units don't have key configurations like this, or are capable of manually switching orientation modes. The hand-held units that have keypads at the top. I can't believe this thing was patentable!
After that commit and several subsequent commits, all the license advertising clauses will be taken care of. My point is that if all these people weren't blogging about other blogs commenting on blogging bloggity blog blog blog (I hate blogs, can you tell?) and screaming about the sky is falling with statements like "DEVELOPMENT IS IMMEDIATELY HALTED", these problems could be fixed without such a raucous discussion.
Sometimes the holier-than-thou graduates of the Stallman School of Licenses fanatics seem like they want to play the "0-day license exploit" game and shoot off their mouths about tiny issues in an attempt to create additional fervor over their favored license.
All this painful discussion over what is probably a non-issue? Don't you just love this brave new world of 30 blogs linking to each other creating an artificial buzz/panic? Is this a case of premature eblogulation?
Yes, actually, I have used ncurses extensively in the past. How kind of you to assume otherwise. I found it to be a wonderful abstraction layer to send the funky escape sequences for me rather than trying to figure them out on my own. And since you are going the route of insults, I would have to say that you appear to be quite the idiot to me, and I wonder if you know the first thing about proper curses development. I'd bet dollars to donuts that whatever garbage code you put out wasn't half as efficient in bandwidth and code speed as a similar curses application. But that's just my opinion!
No need to respond, because I won't be reading it.
"Try to find a terminal"? They already have terminals, which need to be used. The point of ncurses would be consistency without worrying about what terminal is being used.
To not use a terminal library like ncurses is completely stupid. To make a decent app, you would have to write the same support functions for various ops that ncurses provides already -- and it will likely handle quirks that you aren't even aware of but the almost 15 years of ncurses development have long since accounted for.
The only question to ask is which terminal library to use. Ncurses is widely available and extremely portable, but there are alternatives such as S-Lang.
Most people seem to think that pretty GUIs with clicky buttons and dialog boxes are awesome, but I personally find full text interfaces to be much faster and efficient. Just think about what your brain has to do to switch from typing on a keyboard to moving your hand to a mouse, locating/tracking a mouse cursor with your eyes and coordinating clicking on a button... Even though you or I know that one can simply hit enter or tab to go to the next field, how often do you see people type their name into a login box then grab the mouse to click down in the password field. That is the epitomy of GUI inefficiency that you can avoid with a text UI.
Only natural peanut butter. Don't eat that processed partially-hydrogenated sugar-enriched peanut-flavored garbage also known as Jif, Skippy, Peter Pan or one of the many other faces of this great Satan.
Well, if it's run anything like most international aide programs and is rife with corruption, the people who get the traded-away laptops may sell them right back to the "charity" program for distribution, and get maybe $90 in trade for 50 lbs of rice. Don't think of small time e-bay scams. Think of scams on a national level...
Computers and the internet aren't the answer to everything. Making information "available in theory" won't solve any problems. Solving these serious problems isn't as easy as throwing a few seeds out a window and hoping they sprout.
Also, the previous poster who says he is in the middle class in one of these disadvantaged nations should never be buying one of these laptops.
It would be a much larger benefit to the world if this money, brainpower and effort was spent trying to reduce the quality of life gap in many of these nations. The billions of people who need help are the ones without drinking water, sanitation, electricity. Come up with a rugged $100 device that can produce enough water every day for a single family, then you've got something worth having. No one cares about looking shit up on google when the biggest worry is how he will eat tomorrow.
All the good intentions in the world won't amount to a hill of beans because if you give them the laptop for free, it will be sold or traded away at the first opportunity. The whole project is an incredibly naive "if you build it, they will come" idea. The nations that are being targetted by this project are so far from your "marginal return" benchmark that it could be decades before it is reached.
Actually I was going to say that they need to develop a sensor for distinguishing humans from bipedal xenomorphs with acid for blood, for deployment by the Colonial Marines!
Great, so now about 100 people in a district that went for the opposition create some forged receipts. They claim election fraud and manage to get the entire district's votes invalidated due to "rampant irregularities", swinging the election results and electing their candidate.
People scream paper trail, but don't forget how easily documents are forged. They would have to be cryptographically secure, with a timestamp and possibly the voter's registration number encrypted on the receipt. Only the central election authority would have access to the private key that would be used to validate any claims of miscounts. Of course, you still have to trust the software. Basically the same technology that makes digitally signed contracts work.
Instead of sending the whole song, just build streaming capability into the unit. If done properly, you could conceivably have an entire room of Zunes listening to your stream. Then just add the ability for the listener to download the (albeit crippled) song if they like it... I can see running out of radio spectrum pretty quick though:)
Microsoft's responsibility should be to provide an operating system that isolates the kernel from the user to the extent that no application run by an unpriviledged user could ever compromise anything other than that user's files. If they succeed, then the AV vendors have no need to get into the kernel. They just create software that looks for malicious software or libraries and eliminate them. If no app can get into the kernel they have nowhere to hide. That's the real solution IMO (not like I'm the first, second or even millionth person to opine that!)
Surely the AV companies had to know that MS would eventually be pulling a netscape on them. The company has to grow, and that market is a great opportunity for them. That being said, Microsoft being in the anti-virus market itself seems like some form of collusion. Imagine if the car manufacturers were also the owners of all the gas companies.
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Just because someone has written some code and has poor personal hygiene doesn't mean what they think is the end-all of a topic, much less that everything that comes out of their mouth is some fantastic headline.
I saw the same thing, and I had the same reaction. I still think of it every now and then and having another little laugh to myself.
That's you, though. Most people believe that because they have anti-virus software they CAN safely run anything. I still find it an amusing shame that people are so willing to accept the huge performance penalties of anti-virus and now anti-spyware/adware for their utterly broken OS. Intel and AMD have to love this arms race.
Yes! I knew I'd seen this before somewhere. Now I can stop trying to track it down!
Not true. The application just reads and writes from a socket, not caring what the endpoint of that socket is. Then entire application could be written in a way that it never even knows what the IP address is... Only the operating system need know. And as far as the operating system is concerned, it is simply pushing random bits through an interface. To create a link between the two might fall under the "extra creation". Even though all the information is technically in the RAM, it is more like a jigsaw puzzle than a real document.
Lower priced alternatives that don't work particularly well or are missing functionality. I use my DSM-520 constantly, but the interface is still primitive, supported formats for both audio and video are lacking and the HDMI output didn't work properly with a Samsung LCD TV I had... I actually returned a TV that cost 4x the player to exchange it for one with a crummier interface that it did work properly with :) -- playing videos from my PC is that important!
If someone can figure out how to make an AppleTV into a kickass MythTV frontend, I'll be buying 3 or 4 of them.
If you check Garmin's product line, I believe the auto-specific units don't have key configurations like this, or are capable of manually switching orientation modes. The hand-held units that have keypads at the top. I can't believe this thing was patentable!
Bloggers are like the guys that do "Reply to all" with every damn e-mail, or copy 50 people who shouldn't be. You know who you are.
After that commit and several subsequent commits, all the license advertising clauses will be taken care of. My point is that if all these people weren't blogging about other blogs commenting on blogging bloggity blog blog blog (I hate blogs, can you tell?) and screaming about the sky is falling with statements like "DEVELOPMENT IS IMMEDIATELY HALTED", these problems could be fixed without such a raucous discussion.
Sometimes the holier-than-thou graduates of the Stallman School of Licenses fanatics seem like they want to play the "0-day license exploit" game and shoot off their mouths about tiny issues in an attempt to create additional fervor over their favored license.
But that's just my opinion!
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/cvs-src/2007-Ja nuary/073415.html
All this painful discussion over what is probably a non-issue? Don't you just love this brave new world of 30 blogs linking to each other creating an artificial buzz/panic? Is this a case of premature eblogulation?
Which I would interpret as "run on serial terminals that we already have".
I would characterize that as the amazingly bad assumption, rather.
Yes, actually, I have used ncurses extensively in the past. How kind of you to assume otherwise. I found it to be a wonderful abstraction layer to send the funky escape sequences for me rather than trying to figure them out on my own. And since you are going the route of insults, I would have to say that you appear to be quite the idiot to me, and I wonder if you know the first thing about proper curses development. I'd bet dollars to donuts that whatever garbage code you put out wasn't half as efficient in bandwidth and code speed as a similar curses application. But that's just my opinion!
No need to respond, because I won't be reading it.
"Try to find a terminal"? They already have terminals, which need to be used. The point of ncurses would be consistency without worrying about what terminal is being used.
To not use a terminal library like ncurses is completely stupid. To make a decent app, you would have to write the same support functions for various ops that ncurses provides already -- and it will likely handle quirks that you aren't even aware of but the almost 15 years of ncurses development have long since accounted for.
The only question to ask is which terminal library to use. Ncurses is widely available and extremely portable, but there are alternatives such as S-Lang.
Most people seem to think that pretty GUIs with clicky buttons and dialog boxes are awesome, but I personally find full text interfaces to be much faster and efficient. Just think about what your brain has to do to switch from typing on a keyboard to moving your hand to a mouse, locating/tracking a mouse cursor with your eyes and coordinating clicking on a button... Even though you or I know that one can simply hit enter or tab to go to the next field, how often do you see people type their name into a login box then grab the mouse to click down in the password field. That is the epitomy of GUI inefficiency that you can avoid with a text UI.
Long live the text interfaces!
No, because OLPC stands for One Laptop Per Child, not Multiple UN-Subsidized Laptops Per Small Business.
That would fall under the theory of "if you can't make better software, aim for the license!"
Only natural peanut butter. Don't eat that processed partially-hydrogenated sugar-enriched peanut-flavored garbage also known as Jif, Skippy, Peter Pan or one of the many other faces of this great Satan.
Well, if it's run anything like most international aide programs and is rife with corruption, the people who get the traded-away laptops may sell them right back to the "charity" program for distribution, and get maybe $90 in trade for 50 lbs of rice. Don't think of small time e-bay scams. Think of scams on a national level...
Computers and the internet aren't the answer to everything. Making information "available in theory" won't solve any problems. Solving these serious problems isn't as easy as throwing a few seeds out a window and hoping they sprout.
Also, the previous poster who says he is in the middle class in one of these disadvantaged nations should never be buying one of these laptops.
It would be a much larger benefit to the world if this money, brainpower and effort was spent trying to reduce the quality of life gap in many of these nations. The billions of people who need help are the ones without drinking water, sanitation, electricity. Come up with a rugged $100 device that can produce enough water every day for a single family, then you've got something worth having. No one cares about looking shit up on google when the biggest worry is how he will eat tomorrow.
All the good intentions in the world won't amount to a hill of beans because if you give them the laptop for free, it will be sold or traded away at the first opportunity. The whole project is an incredibly naive "if you build it, they will come" idea. The nations that are being targetted by this project are so far from your "marginal return" benchmark that it could be decades before it is reached.
Actually I was going to say that they need to develop a sensor for distinguishing humans from bipedal xenomorphs with acid for blood, for deployment by the Colonial Marines!
Great, so now about 100 people in a district that went for the opposition create some forged receipts. They claim election fraud and manage to get the entire district's votes invalidated due to "rampant irregularities", swinging the election results and electing their candidate.
People scream paper trail, but don't forget how easily documents are forged. They would have to be cryptographically secure, with a timestamp and possibly the voter's registration number encrypted on the receipt. Only the central election authority would have access to the private key that would be used to validate any claims of miscounts. Of course, you still have to trust the software. Basically the same technology that makes digitally signed contracts work.
When, oh when, will we be able to use what we paid for for what we want, within the limits of the law, without asking permission. Sheesh.
Instead of sending the whole song, just build streaming capability into the unit. If done properly, you could conceivably have an entire room of Zunes listening to your stream. Then just add the ability for the listener to download the (albeit crippled) song if they like it... I can see running out of radio spectrum pretty quick though :)
Microsoft's responsibility should be to provide an operating system that isolates the kernel from the user to the extent that no application run by an unpriviledged user could ever compromise anything other than that user's files. If they succeed, then the AV vendors have no need to get into the kernel. They just create software that looks for malicious software or libraries and eliminate them. If no app can get into the kernel they have nowhere to hide. That's the real solution IMO (not like I'm the first, second or even millionth person to opine that!)
Surely the AV companies had to know that MS would eventually be pulling a netscape on them. The company has to grow, and that market is a great opportunity for them. That being said, Microsoft being in the anti-virus market itself seems like some form of collusion. Imagine if the car manufacturers were also the owners of all the gas companies.
I'm only criticising the people who are making an issue out of Mozilla.
What would you rather talk about, breasts or prostates? I think you have your answer! That, or you have a rodent fetish...