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Yahoo! VP Calls For a Shakeup
prostoalex writes, "Yahoo!'s Senior VP Brad Garlinghouse sent out a company-wide memo calling for layoffs of 15-20% of Yahoo! staff and reversal of priorities to concentrate on major issues facing the company. (The Wall Street Journal posted a copy of the memo.) MarketWatch quotes Garlinghouse: 'I've heard our strategy described as spreading peanut butter across the myriad opportunities that continue to evolve in the online world. The result: a thin layer of investment spread across everything we do and thus we focus on nothing in particular. I hate peanut butter. We all should.'"
Do not support Yahoo, in their war against peanut butter. This is exactly what Google is trying to prevent with their "Do No Evil" Clause.
... that didn't have any buzzwords in it. Let's hope just that it doesn't get Yahoo into a jam - otherwise that VP could be toast.
Both Yahoo and Google this year have introduced a mind-blowing number of new services that make it easy to accuse either of spreading themselves too thin. Remember when Google said they'd only offer search, not chat or finance pages or horoscopes? Right, now they've also added 30+ other products (luckily they've stayed away from horoscopes for now).
The difference between the two is that Google has at least devoted the resources to improving upon their key product (search), while Yahoo has a difficult time defining what their key product is. I'm sure Brad Garlinghouse (being the VP of Mail) of the memo would say it's Yahoo! Mail, but if you were to interview every VP you'd likely get a different answer.
As an example of their lack of focus, look at the homepage. One week it focuses on news stories, the next it focuses on some random $50,000 video contest. This may keep people entertained, but it also reflects the lack of consistency inherent in the organization (or shows the bread through the peanut butter as Brad might say).
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Yahoo!'s strategy has ALWAYS been to develop JUST enough of a presence in any given vertical market that some fraction of its 300 million users will wander over to the sites from the Yahoo! home page or their Yahoo! Mail account, to justify its existence.
If Yahoo! has ever invested deeply in any area, you can be damn sure it was because some C-level employee or SVP decided to make it their personal crusade, not because it was standard operating procedure actually to follow through on making great products.
Sadly it seems Google (which also needs as much distribution for its ads as it can get) is going down this path as well, but they're better at making splashes here and there, and they are fortunate enough to be enjoying the kind of consumer goodwill that Yahoo! had in its heyday so folks aren't jaded with this not-so-novel approach yet.
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I know someone who works in the Yahoo London office and there they've already been cutting back on some major departments. Fortunately he managed to find another job in his notice period, but it looks like a large portion of people there were getting the push.
These things unfortunately happen in any big company eventually if they have got involved in too many different areas.
I think the National Peanut Board would have a thing or two to say about this blanket statement.
...to call this guy a corporate douchebag.
The thing that really convinces me is the peanut butter metaphor. It's unforgiveable. What has this guy got against peanut butter? It's delicious. I think these guys come up with these ideas as they grunt on the toilet. It makes the blood pressure fall in your cerebral arteries and so you should be suspicious of any epiphany you have there especially if you are in management.
He also bleeds purple and yellow and he brags of having shaved a Y in the back of his head. I'd say that means case closed.
Its amazing to me that someone with such poor writing skills can make it to the VP level of a multibillion dollar company. I think its time to sell some YHOO.
By the analogy he adopts, peanut butter is investment. What bothers him is the nature of the layer of peanut butter : it's too thin. So the problem is with the peanut butter allocation, not the peanut butter. And in fact, his favored projects should get more peanut butter given his chosen metaphor, since peanut butter == investment.
Which makes this, I hate peanut butter. We all should, a mind-blowingly asinine comment. This guy doesn't even understand his own analogy and maybe Yahoo! would be wise to re-allocate the investment it made in him. Sounds like he wouldn't mind that at all.
This is what happens when people make comments they think are snappy and incisive without actually thinking about what the hell they're saying.
...peanut butter and chinese bloggers have in common?
..and having left pretty recently, I have to say this is right on the money. Too many VPs, senior VPs, and directors who just go to meetings all day and don't contribute anything except to get large bonuses (which the engineers rarely see). Properties which have large teams but haven't gotten any updates in years (Calendar, My Yahoo, just to name a couple), which were supposed to have released stuff months ago for "beta", but of course haven't. Stupid acquisitions (Bix, wtf??) instead of just concentrating on what they're good at (go back to the properties update), and duplication of efforts (Flickr, Photos, and last I heard, there were 3 different bookmarking technologies).
On top of all that, there's very little communication between properties so you see lots of duplication of effort, or something that'd be useful to one section of the company which nobody except the designers of that cool thing know about.
I enjoyed working at the company, but I agree it needs a major shakeup. Can the CEO for starters.
I like peanut butter.
Or Christmas bonus?
This sounds more like an exec trying to get a nice fat Christmas bonus for himeself by putting 15%+ of the workers out of work for the holiday season. I have worked for 3 fortune 500's and this is how they all do it. They layoff a nice chunk of workers and then give themselves a big fat bonus for doing it. Pretty sickening if you ask me.
Yup, I don't see anything new here. Yahoo! has always invested broadly and shallowly. This dude won't change anything. He just wants to get a fat Christmas bonus so he figured the only way to do that was to put a bunch of people out of work. Don't worry, he and his family will have a nice holiday season. As for the 15% - 20% that he fires? Well, that is where we come in by giving money to the Salvation Army to help out families like that.
Long live uncontrolled capitalism! Hey, it is only to "maximize profits" or to "increase share holder value" right? Those few hundred or thousand families, well, they don't count.
I will eat my shorts if this bum doesn't get some type of bonus for successfully executing this round of layoffs.
General, you are listening to a machine! Do the world a favor and don't act like one.
You know language has gone down the tubes when people use awkward metaphors to elaborate upon clear ones.
- RG>
("tubes" pun unintended)
Hey pal, this isn't a pleasantforest, so don't waste my time with pleasantries!
...that BSD is dying?
Yahoo runs on BSD.
Amid the weirdly mixed metaphors (peanut butter and baseball outfielders) is the typical excuse that all pointy-haired-bosses trot out whenever their company fortunes are sagging: It's the employees' fault.
I bet peanut butter would clog the tubes pretty quick.
Faster than poker chips could, at least.
Peanut Butter must be the new name for what was known as "portal" in the dot-com era.
While Semel's challenge is painfully radical and hints at cutbacks as something of a panacea, his memo has some important points.
Yahoo needs to follow Jim Collins's advice - find the intersection of their passion, the thing they could do better than anyone in the world, and their profit engine. Focus all of their energies on that spot. Dismiss "good things" to gain "great things."
It's not too late for Yahoo....yet.
Get rid of the director of engineering for Yahoo! Messenger. This guy hasn't contributed anything to the company at all and is full of sh*!
He recommends that other departments and individuals should be kicked out as excessive, not himself 'The great visionary...'
Brad Garlinghouse should setup an example for other to follow.
He should lay himself off.
Yahoo had cutbacks last year at this time as well. The entire culture is bankrupt (from the veterans' point of view). Young people with fresh ideas and no discipline. Lower employment standards, lower benefits (if you're lucky enough to avoid contractor-dom), inferior products. The smart money sold their Yahoo stock LAST year. I'm trying to think of 1 service that is synonymous with Yahoo and I can't...but I have memorized a number of audio clips (commercials/IM). That's just what I've gotten from my friends who work there (check the blogs, you'll see the sentiments and realities). This spokeshole announcement is just delayed reaction to machinations set in motion long ago. For the few that care enough, plz post about what Yahoo's doing that's fantastic and new that's showing growth.
P.S.
This is not ANTI YAHOO FUD, but my personal conclusions from what I know. Take it with a grain of salt and an eye for how you can find out for yourself.
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'I've heard our strategy described as spreading peanut butter across the myriad opportunities that continue to evolve in the online world. The result: a thin layer of investment spread across everything we do and thus we focus on nothing in particular. I hate peanut butter. We all should.'
This is so utterly bankrupt. HE IS THE MANAGEMENT, HE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STRATEGY. Laying off 15-20% and not going after the problem - bad strategy, incompetance at the top. This sort of turmoil will only cause the talented people in Yahoo to bail out and find more rewarding opportunities.
The stock market is going to pummel Yahoo. It is one thing to drive costs down through keeping the number of employees down, it is another thing altogether to show signs that senior management has no fucking idea about what they are doing.
Osama bin laden likes peanut butter.
I'm tellin' ya, it's them dang yahooligans steelin all mah peanutbutters!
Seriously, why can't a company that is making a ton of profit utilize their money to provide even more services to people? .. sole source of revenue .. gone. Imagine if IBM stayed "focused" on cash registers a century ago. What if iPods never got video capability ("tv shows and movies is spreading us too thin"). This VP lacks vision and I wouldnt trust then guy to do even the thing he's "focused" on properly. If you give a bully a magifying glass he goes out and burns ants, not something useful.
.. which is still the CEO's fault for not realizing it
.. he's getting a bonus!
What does this VP think Yahoo should fixate on? Does he really think Yahoo can be leaps and bounds beyond competition in one space? Does he have creative ideas for how this would happen? How long does he think one revenue stream can be milked for, staying focused in one market sector results in revenue stagnation and suddenly when a paradigm shifting competitor arrives you're screwed
Whenever a company lays off people en masse, it's ALWAYS because of the myopic vision of the CEO and senior management (save natural disasters). See here are two common reasons why an IT person becomes unemployed.
1. The worker is unable to do the job. - This is the workers fault, or (much less likely but possible) the management's fault for placing the worker in a job they arent supposed to do
2. Competitors in same industry doing fine but CEO cant figure out how to utilize thousands of people who are skilled - This is CEO's fault, unless the workers are incompetent en masse
But don't cry for the CEO in #2 situation
The problems with Yahoo is that it is now run by business idiots. They will follow the same road as AOL.
I prefer the "u" in honour as it seems to be missing these days.
Normal people drunk dial, VP's drunk memo.
..... I thought it was another mod for Grand Theft Auto.
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Well, there goes the crunchy peanut butter and peanut butter and jelly premixed divisions.
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Unbelievably to me, some sites can already ascertain your character using little real info. For example, "www.LikeBetter.com guesses your physical and personality characteristics just by which pictures you like. Every 10 or so pictures you can click on the brain at the bottom and it tells you what it knows about you. I couldn't believe how accurate it was ... After about 10 rounds, it had given me 20 characteristics, only 1 was incorrect.
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Ok, I couldn't resist making a cat picture for this one, since there seems to be some kind of peanutbutter meme going on...
"Im in ur Yahoo.comz eatin all ur peanut butterz"
I, for one, welcome our peanut butter overlords.
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Why did he need the NYT to provide a wake-up call? He's a senior VP, he's been there for three years and, by his own cheerful admission, his company's strategy and organisational structure are screwed. Shoddy leadership, no accountability, no direction, massive redundancy, and a mass exodus of the valuable staff.
Who's fucking fault is that? What's he been doing for the last three years? Why has he allowed Yahoo!!! to get into its current state?
The implicit admission being that he is one of the people he describes as "phoning it in", I assume that he will be including himself in the 15-20% redundancy.
Yeah.
Man, it must such to be the journalist who wrote the article inspiring this memo. Responsible (indirectly) for 15-20% of all staff being layed off? Ouch.
Also: "At the risk of being redundant..": I'd guess you aren't the one risking redundancy here, Brad.
When companies talk reengineering they mean layoffs, but it needn't be this way: They should focus on waste reduction, business process improvement, quality, and innovation. Reskill existing workers and change positions, do not show loyal people the door!
I'm not so impressed by that site.
After 25ish pictures, it decided I'm 30-something (easy enough), then erroneously guessed I'm a woman. "The brain has no more thoughts about you."
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Only natural peanut butter. Don't eat that processed partially-hydrogenated sugar-enriched peanut-flavored garbage also known as Jif, Skippy, Peter Pan or one of the many other faces of this great Satan.
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Get rid of the top execs, gut 80% of middle management. Too many people doing nothing and being safe in their jobs. A good project comes around and everyone trys to get their hands on it to be able to later claim that they were a part of it. The end result is extremely long project timelines and watered-down projects (destroyed by too many cooks, then crippled by people who are threatened by the project's potential success).
I have had yahoo mail for about 3 years. I average about 1 junk mail a week in my inbox, and I delete my junk mail box once a week. Fine by me for a free mail system.
It's not stellar - their ads are far too aggressive. But one's email grows into an identity, and I have no serious excuse to change. I only change providers of services when serious problems arise. I used to use AOL until 4 years ago - various forces led me to quit. The recent Search Catastrophe cinched the derision.
As for other services, Yahoo Maps had enough problems to force me to take it off my personal links page. I use Yahoo Advanced Search for no logical reason whatsoever.
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Company-wide? Funny, I didn't get it. I smell exaggeration.
YAHOO! has a great business model, it's based on YAHOO! presenting the web to a new generation of YAHOO! type users who seek a YAHOO! type experience instead of same old, same old. If the pointy-haired YAHOO!s in the executive suite would get out of the way of the real YAHOO!s who see the YAHOO! in every aspect of the Internet experience, they might let out a YAHOO! when they see YAHOO!s stock price at the end of the quarter. YAHOO!
namely, all the people in upper management (starting with *you*) that allowed all the weaknesses you cite to grow right in front of your eyes.
no vision? management's fault.
bad compensation system? management's fault.
no accountability? management's fault. you want heads to roll? who's more responsibile for the current state of the organization than a vice president - uh, like yourself? what you meant to say is everyone else must be held accountable so that i won't be held accountable.
how can a business truly thrive when its leaders are so self serving?
business reducancies? management's fault.
why even bring this up with the front line folks - these are all management issues and vice presidents are supposed to be INVOLVLED in the business INSTEAD OF SETTING LARGE ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURES THEY CAN BLAME WHEN THINGS GO BAD!
perhaps you should've been doing the hard work of running your business instead of shaving a "Y" on your head... running an efficient company is work and much harder than doing the "rah, rah" stuff.
you want accountability by rolling heads? you weant leadership? how about rolling your own head first to set the example?
This guy is a typical MBA cut throat loudmouth who thinks he should run yahoo.com:
g arlinghouse.html
http://www.ptc.org/events/ptc06/program/speakers/
He became president of dialpad.com from working at the venture capital company that funded dialpad, when dialpad was bought by yahoo.com they inherited this master of the obvious.
Notice he has virtually ZERO technology education, he is a diametrically opposite of Google.com management, yahoo's competitor (actually yahoo is google's bitch). Yet they continue to promote and stack the management with these same types. Shareholders should revolt.
Dear Brad,
We love working here too. To continue your analogy, we agree that the situation is like peanut butter. Thick, gooey, and full of CHUNKY NUTS ON TOP. I noticed that your plan, your memo mentions nothing about how the leadership, under Terry Semel, has failed to produce the fire and the enthusiasm of startups and even our largest competitor, Google.
If every company meeting has a mention of media-centeredness, or how we should be grateful that we have old entertainment media leadership, then how can the workers get thrilled about working on a WEB portal?
When innovation is stifled, or trotted out only to say "Yeah, we did it too, but we were hiding it", what kind of environment do you think that creates?
Why does feature creep occur? Users don't need more doodads for sites. More or fewer products isn't the answer. Instead, we should look at how do we maximize user benefit.
You say that media companies are jealous, but our biggest competitors in EVERYONE ELSE'S EYES are not Universal, NBC, or Clear Channel. It's Google, Microsoft, and Apple.
I hate chunky nuts.
its peanut butter jelly time!
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After thirty something pics, it knew I was 20 something, a guy, a night person and not very religious. All correct. I won't call it the coolest thing I've ever seen, but it did astonish me.
I have found Yahoos services to be among the better ones on the internet, so I dont really see what he is talking about. The yahoo services I use work better than any other.
It sounds like this guy works in the same company as I do, not Yahoo: too many people who think they are in charge, silos, competing duplicate projects, etc... Maybe he just uses that memo over and over again depending on the dysfunctional corporation he joins.
Do you really think he has a Y shaved in the back of his head?
While it's certainly true that what they're spreading is brown, thick, gooey with chunks and has a strong aroma, it is NOT peanut butter!
I for one can not forgive yahoo for killing the All-Seeing Eye. The fact that they picked up this property and then just let it die, has proven to me that Yahoo really cares nothing about there users.
Gonna be a lot of a** kissing around Yahoo in order for people to save their jobs and justify their paycheck..... :(
You're messin' with my Zen Thing, man.....
I'd say that's an accurate description of almost anyone who visits that site.
I used to be a huge Yahoo fanboy until the last few years were I found the service wanting. Heres a list of reason of why I don't use Yahoo "at all" any more.
1. Chat service isn't 100% cross platform, I use Linux/Windows and OSX/BSD and the experience on each is different, it either works (even then it's rubbish) or partially works. The rooms are full of spammers and idiots and the voice chat service is horrible (and not cross platform).
2. Yahoo doesn't do anything well, its search engine is dyslexic and doesn't really integrate with anything else
3. Theres no "real" innovation just a "me too" logic to yahoo in the last few years.
4. Its service api (chat being a great example) are all dyslexic and closed source and for ever changing with little if any warning.Heeelloo knock knock open standards Yahoo, time to wake up from the 90's it wants it's code back
5. The mail service is just horrible, sheesh what monkey designed that UI.
6. The final nail in the coffin for me was when Yahoo put profits before social responsibility and handed over details of a pro democracy supporter in China so it can keep making a few bucks.
peanut butter jelly time!!!
if you think that if yahoo had focused on search only back them... google would be the only one here today.
the sales pitch they use today to sell ads is "yeah... but do they have content?".
This screed reeks of the Good Manager's First Priority: Blaming someone else. In this case it's the whole fscking organization.
I think it's reasonable to assume this guy's department has as many problems as the next department except he's doing the classic pre-emptive management tactic of shifting blame by calling out someone else.
They are your worst kind of manager. They stink up the whole organization as soon as they drop their first pre-emptive strike. Get out quick because they tend to drag everything down and stay around launching strike after strike on others and collect hefty bonuses at the end of the fiscal year.
What makes it so insidious is they get all of the people that want a better organization (change advocates) behind them because jackasses like this blindly fire salvo after salvo around the organization. The change advocates typically don't like the person in question but see any kind of change as "Better than it was." It turns the departments in the work environment into a fortress.
I can't imagine a job that would be worth staying in with nut jobs like this.
http://www.maxineudall.com/2010/02/should-economists-be-sued-for-malpractice.html
Don't these managers realize it's expensive as hell to fire someone? Typically a company has a significant amount of money invested in someone in the HR process, training and up-training, job acclamation, etc. It takes years and thousands to get teams of people working at such a state where they are productive and profitable. Not to mention the negative effects on morale a large lay off causes and the associated losses in skilled workers (either by will or forcefully) and productivity.
If the current structure of the organization is inefficient or not working, it is the CEO and senior management's responsibility to reorganize that structure, avoiding loss of workforce whenever possible. Just because someone's "job" is inefficient doesn't mean that person isn't and can't be taught a new job or an organizational system changed. Thats like saying we're getting rid of all this scrap steel because we'd rather pay more to bring in new stuff. That fact is, the same people you have in place can form the core of your "new" company.
You can tell this CEO clearly does not know what he is talking about and is clearly behind the curve with his peanut butter sandwich analogy, which is just nonsense. Its a real shame people like this get to these positions without having anything real to offer to those they manage in terms of wisdom or innovation.
Calling for change is good, but knowing how to institute it effictivly to do good for the company is what defines a good manager. That said, the first change Yahoo! should make should be this VP.
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Brad - the writer of this memo - was rumoured to leave Yahoo for Myspace. He's supposed to be a disgruntled man for a long time - and this memo could be one of those angy outbursts. Not that what he wrote is not right, but for sure there's more to it than just plain loyalty thing.
l inghouse-will-defect-to-myspace-157314.php or Google on this guy.
Read http://www.valleywag.com/tech/top/yahoos-brad-gar
Funny, that's exactly how I feel about Yahoo!.
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So he has no background in technology, he only knows it at a high level.
I think this is all because a few nights ago on CNBC's Mad Money, Jim Cramer ripped Yahoo to shreds over the hubris/incompetence of the senior management.
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It was wrong on everything about me until the 4th round, where it asked me if I was right handed, and ambidextrous was not an option. :/
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I prefer Google finance now myself, what do you find Yahoo offers that you miss?
I did prefer Yahoo pefore in that regard, but there again they built a nice site and haven't really enhanced it for a while.
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Is this Yahoo or AOL? Now I'm confused.
What has this guy got against peanut butter? WARNING#2: Because he has gone nuts.
Okay the subject is funny, but does WayneCorp focus on one product? Hardly.
Actually, try this experiment:
Take two pieces of toast
Spread peanut butter on one of them
Leave the other one plain
Drop a couple of nice new crisp dollar bills on both slices
pick them both up and turn them upside down
which one has money on it?
Google definitely offers a peanut-butter style (whatever that even means) technology strategy, and it seems to work. Actually, for a technology company, diversity is probably the best thing you can do. Technology is topsy-turvy. Your competitor can come out with a new widget that puts everything you've done for your entire company's history to ruin if all you do is make an inferior version of the widget. If you diversify, and your competitor comes out with a new widget, you'll still be around. You just have to keep some agility.
Sayonara yahoo!, it was fun while it lasted.
The Right Reverend K. Reid Wightman,
It said the same for me, but I am religious, but not in a forceful way, so perhaps that's it. I just decided to post to say that it said that I wasn't in to technology much, which is dead wrong. It seems to have only slightly better than half of them right for me, and all but one of the things that it "knew" were binary (one or the other). Seems pretty bunk.
warning: This post is likely to contain gobs of dripping sarcasm. Consume at your own risk.
Why is it that anytime an executive says lay-offs are prudent, it must simply be for a bonus check and not be for the betterment of the company? I'm also surprised about the amount of vitriol in reaction to his suggestion of reduced workforce because he seems to indicate that the most bloat is in management and not the "worker bees". He only lists a headcount reduction, no reference to a specific project or specific employee-group.
Garlinghouse lists 8 separate sectors where Yahoo has multiple products competing. I don't have a verified number, but elsewhere in this same thread people mentioned that Yahoo offers 30+ different services. Reducing 8 redundant services would be reducing somewhere around 25% of their total services. If they can eliminate 25% of their services and only reduce the workforce 15-20% it doesn't sound like rampant firings just for the sake of firing people. He doesn't specifically outline what his exact ideal plans would be, but it sounds like simply eliminating redundant services, eliminating bloated bureaucracy, and refocusing workers on complimentary & cohesive services. This is a good thing for Yahoo even though it may be unpopular to say so.
On another note... I never feel sorry for laid-off workers. If they are good, they should have no problem replacing the job. If they aren't good, they shouldn't have had the job to begin with. Maintaining a commitment to the lowest standards simply because firing people is unpleasant is an easy way to doom a company.
I know a lot of recent ex-Yahoos. My husband is a recent ex-Yahoo. I know several likely soon-to-be ex-Yahoos. you can read my opinion about this here: http://rvincoletto.multiply.com/journal/item/284
IBM - same same.
The level of incompetence at higher levels is astounding
It's a miracle they are making money
In our postmodern touchy-feely sort of world everyone tries to condone each other in the name of perspective, but I can't do that now.
After 3 years tenure Brad Garlinghouse is calling for 15-20% layoffs for what reason? I read the memo and from what I can tell his goal is to have a streamlined company with clear vision that stands out in the market as #1. This is a fine goal to have, provided that it's realistic. (Anyone work in corporate America - hello?) Unfortunately, from what I can tell what he wants is to have bragging rights about how great it is to be #1. He basically accuses the employees of not trying hard enough when the problem is not with the employees, but leaders. It's not the bulk of employees who are supposed to have clear vision, make acquisitions, or claim 'ownership', but the leaders! This memo bleeds arrogance and condescendence directed at the employees when (I'll reiterate) the problem is a lack of leadership rather than a lack of willing workforce.
In short: Brad, don't take this out on your employees. Make it work with what you have, figure it out! If you lay off 20 percent of your company a good 5-20 percent will follow. The rest of the employees that you have will be proud or bitter - and then you will have a real problem.
"Which makes this, I hate peanut butter. We all should, a mind-blowingly asinine comment. "
I agree it was out-of-place in the email, that's why I don't think this was a metaphor.
I think he actually hates peanut butter. My guess is the company cafeteria is now getting rid of peanut butter and they'll lay off a few hundred people over there at Yahoo.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
The rewrite of the yahoo message boards is a fiasco. Never has something that was working so well been turned into something that is all but unusable. For example, the pages are slow to load and navigation is abysmal, a combination of problems that causes frustration - when the poor navigation causes you to land on the wrong page, it takes a long time to back out and find your way again.
Yahoo server software has to be the most unreliable of any of the major portals. The are far too many instances of sessions being dropped.
The TV listings have all sorts of quirks in the navigation. Unless I hit the links in just the right order, I wind up with some cryptic error URL. The section should be made to be less Web 2.0 and more stable. I've switched over to TitanTV.com now.
Yahoo customer service is THE WORST. It is impossible to talk with a human, even after exhausting much time trying to explain the situation to an uncaring autoreply robot.
Yes, yahoo has lost its way. It may be too far gone to get back on track.
But I grew up on Jif and my cholesterol is only 220!
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Apparently he knows Jack Shit.
Wow! Most companies built on an aquarian model either quietly go out of business or, just as quietly, shift to a hierarchical model slowly, sloughing off one small piece of dead skin at a time.
Layoffs are clearly not the purpose of this exercise at Yahoo; they are an effect. Converting a web of informal relationships into a functional hierarchy of responsibilities and authorities eliminates a lot of redundancy. A lot of people will likely be laid off, not because they can't do the job, but because, among the five or six people currently doing the job, only one will be chosen.
I wonder how long it will take all the Yahoos to learn that good teamwork is putting everything you have into the quarterback's choice of play.
I'm a Programmer. That's one level above Software Engineer and one level below Engineer.
'Gandalf, I'm beginning to feel worn..stretched....like butter scraped over too much bread.'
'He who has to break a thing to find out what it is, has left the path of wisdom.' -- Gandalf to Saruman
Given that Susan Decker from Yahoo! just joined the board of Intel, another company going through a major restructuring - http://www.intel.com/pressroom/archive/releases/20 061116corp_a.htm
I just hope they don't kill Flickr, shoehorn it into Yahoo! Photos, or lay off the original developers and replace them with someone who doesn't get the Flickr community or the concepts behind it. Flickr, with its social networking, its tags and groups and its refreshingly nonproprietary APIs and data feeds, is a lot more usable than anything developed in-house at Yahoo! It'd be a shame if it became just another Yahoo! service.
One minor casualty of Yahoo!'s ownership of Flickr has been geocoding usability. Flickr uses Yahoo!'s map system, which is a bit like Google Maps only without the coverage. Their UK maps are somewhat inadequate, with only major roads and no street names.
The talking ads that pop up at random on Yahoo Finance are the most annoying thing in the world. The site is not suitable for viewing in a cube farm or in an open floor plan. I had to install adblock and flashblock just to deal with it, but it's no longer worth dealing with Yahoo when Google's finance page is now usable.
One thing Yahoo has never gotten right is the usability/annoyance equation in web design.
the growth in cynicism and rebellion has not been without cause
I wonder if this guy is upset because his particular subset of Yahoo! didn't get all of the budget that he thought they should? I hear the people that say Yahoo! should focus on something "great" - but you know what, a lot of people who say that really mean "do something that makes the stock price go up, so I can unload and make a killing rather than the profit I would currently make, which I feel is meager". Yahoo does a lot of things that are "good enough". Yes, they could use improvements, but on the other hand most of them "just work" and their target market is not the Slashdot crowd of technological bleeding-edge early adopters, but closer to Grandpa and Grandma who want to use "that Internet thing".. and for them, Yahoo works pretty well (so did AOL for that matter I guess). They also do some other things that may be of more long-term benefit to everyone, things like being a member of the Calendaring & Scheduling Consortium, a group trying to help solve the calendar interoperability problems which still plague us all. That might not be of immediate benefit, but sometime in the relatively near future you'll be able to schedule time with someone no matter what calendar tool they user - and that will be a major deal.
Yahoo is no different then the old multi-line monolithic BBSs that did everything for everybody. Look where those ended up...
I recently logged into Yahoo for the first time in years. All I wanted to do was get added to an email list! Instead of being able to submit my email address and walk away, I had to jump through hoops to figure out my old yahoo ID and password. What a pain in the ass!
No, I will not work for your startup
Maybe if Yahoo had a web design interface that worked then more people would use it. It has never been able to upload more than one file at a time and always adds in extraneous code that needs to be taken out using their miniscule form window. I could make similar complaints about their e-mail interface (although I like the spam filter). Design a mouse trap that actually works and the world wide web will beat a path to your door.
Hah! I actually am a 30-something woman, and it guessed that I was a teenage guy.
Your fantasies contain the seeds of important concepts.