I checked the ftp site for v3.0 of OpenBSD. Current version is....
ucd-snmp-4.2.2.tgz
Which, according to the CERT advisory is vulnerable. So yes Virginia, if you installed the latest and greatest version of OpenBSD and installed snmp you should double check and see if you need to patch your system.
Well, I was sadly about to support your opinion by mentioning Buckly v. Valeo but then saw a mention of a new decision Nixon v. Shrink Missouri Government PAC. Seems that the Court ruled that money is property not speech. Have to look into this one.
Reference found at http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/pdf/Debating_Wrong _Question.PDF Defiantely biased but has more up-to-date info.
Hard to do when the Supreme Court, or more specifically, Supreme Court Justice Warren Burger said, "everything under the sun made by man" could be patented. That came from Diamond v. Chakrabarty iirc.
It seems Congress would have to modify patent law to eliminate business process and software patents. Especially since the statute says "invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvements theeof, may obtain a patent,." Quote taken from http://www.usip.com/articles/whatis.htm
Probably not. One of our sister companies does direct mailings. We sort the mail the way the post office wants it. Package it for their conveinence and for taking the trouble we get a sizable discount on postage.
Heck, iirc, we transport the ads to the post office also.
With all the/. stories I expected to see a higher number of porn^H^H^H^Hgoatse.cx messages. But that's just me.
It's a sad state of affairs when even the trolls don't live up to their potential.
On a more serious note, what do you expect?/. can't even organize a boycott of DVDs. Hell, we even get frontpage stories about the latest anime DVDs to come out. You have a majority here that when you take an activist stand, like say voting for Nader, tell you you wasted your vote even when said critic admits to not voting at all.
Most of the/. crowd and even me to a shameful degree don't have an activist bone in their body. We're opinionated but not motivated and definately not inconvenienced enough to "get religion." The fact is we're too diverse of group to all congregate on any real issue. Having an interest in technology is simply not encompassing enough to organize this group.
Alright, I'm confused. I can start my the e-mail app w/o starting the browser. I can start the browser and not have the e-mail app load.
Just because the app is monolithic doesn't mean it can't be modular. For the longest time on my linux box, I only installed the Mozilla browser and used Evolution as my mail client. But on Windows I feel more comfortable running Mozilla as my browser and e-mail client. This is flexibility and is a good thing.
And since when did something that "linux is all about" have anything to do with Windows?
What originally got me hooked on Opera was when I was using mrtg to monitor the ISDN sites at work. I'd have one brower open with a slew of tabs which made it easy to access whatever site I wanted.
But work also signed me up for Sun's web learning center and though Opera worked fairly well (mozilla until 0.9.7 couldn't load the actual course) the MDI interface really messed it up. It was much easier to have multiple windows open and allow me to position them where I wanted. Worse was the fact that older versions of Opera would suddenly resize all of my windows if the webpage opened a pop-up.
Thankfully, Opera corrected that behavior but the browser is still either use MDI or use multiple windows. I want to be able to do both and Mozilla let's me do that. I can dedicate one window to network monitoring and another set of windows for my web class and another window with tabs for general browsing. It's a level of control I really appreciate.
Thanks for the tip. Yes, I did try d&d but not that way which is pretty unintuitive. Mouse over to the icon farthest away from the url, watch the mouse change to a move icon and get a tool tip about security settings. I'd assume I'd be moving the icon around on the bar. Not dragging the url to another location. IMHO, this is somehting which belongs in the GUI Hall of Shame.
Mozilla simply does this better. An icon, or favicon, is displayed in the box right next to the url. A mouse over turns the cursor into a hand which gives me the clue that I can grab it.
Then when I put the cursor over the personal toolbar I get an arrow mit box to show I can drop it. Now this part is where I think Opera shines and does it better than Mozilla. In Opera, the cursor changes to a page icon with a plus sign on it. While I don't know if this would be internationally recognized I do see this as an obvious indicator of "add the page."
Drag and drop is the obvious way of doing it but it needs to be obvious from the beginning. Opera simply botched this in version 6.0.
But you shouldn't need to do that. Go look at the bugzilla entry for this. The behavior, atm, should be click the "Get Plugin" link, install plug-in, restart browser (that step needs to go imo) and java should just work.
Well, it doesn't. The reason why is Mozilla needs to find five dlls in its plugin directory to load java and the 1.3.1 install isn't doing it. Before it was just one dll. I remember because I used to do this over and over again when I was testing Milestone releases. But now it is really irritating. This definately should be a show-stopper for rolling out version 1.0.
I'm not saying what you do isn't a good workaround for now but once 1.0 becomes a reference platform this must be fixed. There is no way a regular user would accept a non-transparent install of Java. Copy and paste or manually adding a mime type won't cut it.
Said it before and I'll say it again. Lots of people, aka regular users, like a monolithic app. Ninety percent of the Mac users at work still use Netscape 4.7x just for the mail client. Since they use that, they also do a lot of browsing in Netscape. Opera, one of the darlings of the/. crowd, includes a mail and news browser in its Windows offering and will eventually in the linux version as well. People here may not like it but if Mozilla was "just a browser" I know a lot more people who would just pass and it is those users that Netscape is targeting.
You must be kidding. Most of those years I would have considered Mozilla alpha software. Currently I'm running build 2002013103 on my PII 233 with 192 meg o' ram in it and that nightly was good enough to get me to uninstall Opera.
Mozilla is now about as fast as IE in rendering pages. And I'm talking ~1-2 seconds. Small enough that I don't really care. It is at least as stable as Opera which, for myself at least, was annoyingly "crashy." Mozilla's mail client is light years ahead of what Opera has to offer. Even with the inability to run a newly created filter on your inbox. Btw, that's a damn useful feature which I hope they "cram" into 0.9.9.
The tabbed interface is more flexible than what Opera has to offer. I use a trackball at home and after toying with gestures in Opera found that feature not very useful. Memory usage, while still kinda high, keeps coming down but it isn't bad enough to bring this old PC down.
What is irritating is installing the Java plug-in still doesn't work right. And now, with version 1.3.1 you have to copy five dlls. I'm assuming their recent pow-wows with Sun have rectified this because the bug is considered a show-stopper. I'll have to see. OTOH, Mozilla had no problem picking up my Acrobat install and Shockwave wasn't too bad either.
Oh, and another thing that really irritated me about the latest version of Opera for Windows. They changed the way you put links into the personal toolbar. In earlier versions it was a piece of cake. Now the only way Opera would let me do it was through the sidebar.
I'm not going to reccommend that you try out the latest and greatest build. You have your opinion and are entitled to it. But, from my experience, I think you're wrong. Mozilla is coming along very well and I think version 1.0 will be competitive against the likes of IE and Opera.
What makes you think this business model you suggest works? If I buy a copy of RedHat 7.2 and show it off to a friend. He likes it, I burn him a couple of cds and he shows it off to his friend. Does this mean our third party will buy another copy of Red Hat? Let me propose another scenerio which I have seen at work with unprotected CDs.
When the latest Santana cd came out, one co-worker brought it in and played it on his PC. More than one co-worker liked the CD. By the end of the day, 14 cds were burned and no one bought an additional copy of Santana's CD. I've seen this happen for two more CDs.
This is the type of stuff that gives the music industry a credible arguement about loss of potential sales. Everybody says "Well just because they stole^H^H^H^H^Hcopied it doesn't mean they would have bought it." entirely misses the point. It's more than reasonable to expect someone in that group of 14 would have bought the CD and that constitues a loss of profit for the company and the artist. Taking into consideration that MP3s are often good enough for most people and I'm not sure I buy the argument that allowing unfettered copying promotes sales.
No no no no, I don't smoke it no more
I'm tired of waking up on the floor
No, thank you, please,
It only makes me sneeze
And then it makes it hard to find the door
Thanks to Ringo for that one. Plus, I quit six months ago. Though work has seriously made me jones for nicotine now and then.
that for a bunch of recipes created by a group of people, for whom following exacting measurements, rules, tolerances, etc.is like breathing air, these recipes are a bit... lax in standards? For example:
copious ammounts of your fav seasoning
drowned in milk
Flip egg when toaster oven goes Ding!
start dumping cheese in
And I haven't gotten past breakfast yet. Now excuse me while I fix up a Bloody Mary with lots of vodka and more than a few shakes of the tabasco bottle over it.
Our own indocrination includes a respect for human life
Columbine, inner city violence, gays being crucified on a fence, african-americans being dragged by a pickup until they literally fall apart, women drowning their children. Should I mention Charles Manson and his crew? Jim Jones?
Just because the majority holds a certain value does not mean that a minority will abide by it. And wanting to judge the entire group based upon an anomaly is wrong. It leads to witch hunts and overgeneralzations which is what prejudice is all about. Or don't half of you remember saying "Those kids who shot up that school don't represent geeks so please stop singling us out as the next threat."?
Everytime you let 10 white people go through the check point and then detain the arabic looking person you demean that person. You are labeling them as a "possible terrorist" instead of "a person" or more likely an American. Not only that but you get people who don't stop and think and suddenly a hindu or a person of Greek decent is Arab looking enough. When Gandhi went to South Africa he didn't face racism because he was Indian. He faced it because his skin was dark enough that people considered him black.
This is a serious pitfall in profiling and I'm not comfortable with it. After 9-11, everybody was so hip to say "remember not every Muslim is a terrorist" and now we seem so ready to implement a system that will more than likely perpetuate the attitude that people of Arabic origin are a threat.
This is a proposed system, mandated by the federal government which will datamine information from government and private databases. It will probably require changes in law to implement.
Don't give me this crap that it's only for the airline industry and therefore doesn't count.
Well, now we have a prime example of why this is a bad idea. How about we stop profiling the Irish once all those stupid micks cease blowing up shit. Oh, how about we stop profiling people from Spain? Or haven't you heard about the ETA? Hrmmm, better profile the Japanese too. They use chemical weapons.
Do you even have a clue that Muslims are just as ethnically diverse as Christians? How long before we have a John Walker, clean-cut and solidly integrated in society blow up another federal building. Oh wait. That's right. The first terrorist to do that wasn't Islamic.
Finally, you have an extremely small percentage of the population committing these acts so now you want to profile the whole community under the same brush. Well going back to McVeigh, does that mean I should profile caucasian christian males? What? Oaklahoma City isn't big enough now? Not recent enough?
Your "boring math" is weighted by some human's criteria. It is in no way pure and merely analytical. And as someone who wouldn't flag a single criteria mentioned in the article it still really bugs me that my personal history is coming under such scrutiny. imnsho, this intrusion isn't worth the 15 minute savings I'd get at the airport.
I really wish the government would do more of these things and educate people rather than have them screw up so badly that I'll be buying them goverment cheese for the next 30+ years.
We end up paying more for the people who got scammed then we pay for hosting an investment honeypot or hundred.
Won't happen. I remember seeing an interview with a gcc developer and noting that some platform optimizations can't go into gcc due to patent issues. Been looking for it to cite but haven't found it yet.
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I think Lotus has their own patents covering replication. I also know that some work was being done to leverage the Notes replication engine in the Internet world, (circa 1995) perhaps using HTTP or XML, but I can't prove this.
This is what's bugging me. Ok, someone in the past has figured out how to do replication of data over a network. But now because we have the new bright, shiny technology of today (http and, ooooo, look XML) suddenly we have a new patent. So what now, we get a variation of this patent for the next 50 years because somebody finds a new way to package an old concept?
This is exactly why I despise business method patents and software patents especially. To those who say this is innovative I say poppy-cock. This is a natural extension of what can be capable with mobile devices as they become more powerful and able to have more memory. Say I have a laptop, I go to a web site and load a java app. I disconnect from the site then run my program and when I reconnect to the web I have my java app sync with the application server. How is this different from what the patent proposes? If IBM gets their linux wrist-watch working can they create another patent to do the same thing because it's a unique device compared to a Palm?
Hrmmm, history seems to contradict you there. We wouldn't be arguing web patents if TCP/IP wasn't an open standard. I wonder where things would be if Radia Perlman had patented spanning tree. Hell, where would we be if the original specs for the WWW had been patented?
It is a foundation of open standards which have allowed for innovations like streaming media over the Internet. It is open standards which allow for rapid development of these services. What? You think it'll be better if companies X, Y and Z get 50 patents over one technology and then allow them to fight it out in court so we can have feature A in our web browsers? Or, after they've finished bickering, that it is ok for a corporate created browser to claim compliance because they can afford the licensing fees but a browser like Mnemonic can't because it's created by a bunch of hackers?
Patents are not needed or wanted for a standard like the one drafted by the W3C. Ever. If a company wants a product to become a standard for the WWW then they need to be willing to give up control of that "intellectual property." Otherwise, take your chance in the market and get eaten by MS (you know this just had to be included. it is/.:) like every other smoe out there.
Patents do have uses and I am all for them but not in software. As long as there is copyright and trade secrets available it's an axiom I won't accept.
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ucd-snmp-4.2.2.tgz
Which, according to the CERT advisory is vulnerable. So yes Virginia, if you installed the latest and greatest version of OpenBSD and installed snmp you should double check and see if you need to patch your system.
Reference found at http://www.reclaimdemocracy.org/pdf/Debating_Wrong _Question.PDF Defiantely biased but has more up-to-date info.
It seems Congress would have to modify patent law to eliminate business process and software patents. Especially since the statute says "invents or discovers any new and useful process, machine, manufacture, or composition of matter, or any new and useful improvements theeof, may obtain a patent,." Quote taken from http://www.usip.com/articles/whatis.htm
Heck, iirc, we transport the ads to the post office also.
It does seriously put a new spin on the phrase "How much is your time worth?"
There's always the Kama Sutra. After all it is a book about geometry.
It's a sad state of affairs when even the trolls don't live up to their potential.
On a more serious note, what do you expect? /. can't even organize a boycott of DVDs. Hell, we even get frontpage stories about the latest anime DVDs to come out. You have a majority here that when you take an activist stand, like say voting for Nader, tell you you wasted your vote even when said critic admits to not voting at all.
Most of the /. crowd and even me to a shameful degree don't have an activist bone in their body. We're opinionated but not motivated and definately not inconvenienced enough to "get religion." The fact is we're too diverse of group to all congregate on any real issue. Having an interest in technology is simply not encompassing enough to organize this group.
Illiad drew a pretty accurate hand for the cover. But then again I can still only see three knuckles....
Just because the app is monolithic doesn't mean it can't be modular. For the longest time on my linux box, I only installed the Mozilla browser and used Evolution as my mail client. But on Windows I feel more comfortable running Mozilla as my browser and e-mail client. This is flexibility and is a good thing.
And since when did something that "linux is all about" have anything to do with Windows?
But work also signed me up for Sun's web learning center and though Opera worked fairly well (mozilla until 0.9.7 couldn't load the actual course) the MDI interface really messed it up. It was much easier to have multiple windows open and allow me to position them where I wanted. Worse was the fact that older versions of Opera would suddenly resize all of my windows if the webpage opened a pop-up.
Thankfully, Opera corrected that behavior but the browser is still either use MDI or use multiple windows. I want to be able to do both and Mozilla let's me do that. I can dedicate one window to network monitoring and another set of windows for my web class and another window with tabs for general browsing. It's a level of control I really appreciate.
Mozilla simply does this better. An icon, or favicon, is displayed in the box right next to the url. A mouse over turns the cursor into a hand which gives me the clue that I can grab it.
Then when I put the cursor over the personal toolbar I get an arrow mit box to show I can drop it. Now this part is where I think Opera shines and does it better than Mozilla. In Opera, the cursor changes to a page icon with a plus sign on it. While I don't know if this would be internationally recognized I do see this as an obvious indicator of "add the page."
Drag and drop is the obvious way of doing it but it needs to be obvious from the beginning. Opera simply botched this in version 6.0.
Well, it doesn't. The reason why is Mozilla needs to find five dlls in its plugin directory to load java and the 1.3.1 install isn't doing it. Before it was just one dll. I remember because I used to do this over and over again when I was testing Milestone releases. But now it is really irritating. This definately should be a show-stopper for rolling out version 1.0.
I'm not saying what you do isn't a good workaround for now but once 1.0 becomes a reference platform this must be fixed. There is no way a regular user would accept a non-transparent install of Java. Copy and paste or manually adding a mime type won't cut it.
Said it before and I'll say it again. Lots of people, aka regular users, like a monolithic app. Ninety percent of the Mac users at work still use Netscape 4.7x just for the mail client. Since they use that, they also do a lot of browsing in Netscape. Opera, one of the darlings of the /. crowd, includes a mail and news browser in its Windows offering and will eventually in the linux version as well. People here may not like it but if Mozilla was "just a browser" I know a lot more people who would just pass and it is those users that Netscape is targeting.
Mozilla is now about as fast as IE in rendering pages. And I'm talking ~1-2 seconds. Small enough that I don't really care. It is at least as stable as Opera which, for myself at least, was annoyingly "crashy." Mozilla's mail client is light years ahead of what Opera has to offer. Even with the inability to run a newly created filter on your inbox. Btw, that's a damn useful feature which I hope they "cram" into 0.9.9.
The tabbed interface is more flexible than what Opera has to offer. I use a trackball at home and after toying with gestures in Opera found that feature not very useful. Memory usage, while still kinda high, keeps coming down but it isn't bad enough to bring this old PC down.
What is irritating is installing the Java plug-in still doesn't work right. And now, with version 1.3.1 you have to copy five dlls. I'm assuming their recent pow-wows with Sun have rectified this because the bug is considered a show-stopper. I'll have to see. OTOH, Mozilla had no problem picking up my Acrobat install and Shockwave wasn't too bad either.
Oh, and another thing that really irritated me about the latest version of Opera for Windows. They changed the way you put links into the personal toolbar. In earlier versions it was a piece of cake. Now the only way Opera would let me do it was through the sidebar.
I'm not going to reccommend that you try out the latest and greatest build. You have your opinion and are entitled to it. But, from my experience, I think you're wrong. Mozilla is coming along very well and I think version 1.0 will be competitive against the likes of IE and Opera.
What they are doing is legal in Taiwan. Now if you live in the States and use this service....
When the latest Santana cd came out, one co-worker brought it in and played it on his PC. More than one co-worker liked the CD. By the end of the day, 14 cds were burned and no one bought an additional copy of Santana's CD. I've seen this happen for two more CDs.
This is the type of stuff that gives the music industry a credible arguement about loss of potential sales. Everybody says "Well just because they stole^H^H^H^H^Hcopied it doesn't mean they would have bought it." entirely misses the point. It's more than reasonable to expect someone in that group of 14 would have bought the CD and that constitues a loss of profit for the company and the artist. Taking into consideration that MP3s are often good enough for most people and I'm not sure I buy the argument that allowing unfettered copying promotes sales.
No no no no, I don't smoke it no more
I'm tired of waking up on the floor
No, thank you, please,
It only makes me sneeze
And then it makes it hard to find the door
Thanks to Ringo for that one. Plus, I quit six months ago. Though work has seriously made me jones for nicotine now and then.
And I haven't gotten past breakfast yet. Now excuse me while I fix up a Bloody Mary with lots of vodka and more than a few shakes of the tabasco bottle over it.
Columbine, inner city violence, gays being crucified on a fence, african-americans being dragged by a pickup until they literally fall apart, women drowning their children. Should I mention Charles Manson and his crew? Jim Jones?
Just because the majority holds a certain value does not mean that a minority will abide by it. And wanting to judge the entire group based upon an anomaly is wrong. It leads to witch hunts and overgeneralzations which is what prejudice is all about. Or don't half of you remember saying "Those kids who shot up that school don't represent geeks so please stop singling us out as the next threat."?
Everytime you let 10 white people go through the check point and then detain the arabic looking person you demean that person. You are labeling them as a "possible terrorist" instead of "a person" or more likely an American. Not only that but you get people who don't stop and think and suddenly a hindu or a person of Greek decent is Arab looking enough. When Gandhi went to South Africa he didn't face racism because he was Indian. He faced it because his skin was dark enough that people considered him black.
This is a serious pitfall in profiling and I'm not comfortable with it. After 9-11, everybody was so hip to say "remember not every Muslim is a terrorist" and now we seem so ready to implement a system that will more than likely perpetuate the attitude that people of Arabic origin are a threat.
Welcome to the Great Melting Pot.
Don't give me this crap that it's only for the airline industry and therefore doesn't count.
Do you even have a clue that Muslims are just as ethnically diverse as Christians? How long before we have a John Walker, clean-cut and solidly integrated in society blow up another federal building. Oh wait. That's right. The first terrorist to do that wasn't Islamic.
Finally, you have an extremely small percentage of the population committing these acts so now you want to profile the whole community under the same brush. Well going back to McVeigh, does that mean I should profile caucasian christian males? What? Oaklahoma City isn't big enough now? Not recent enough?
Your "boring math" is weighted by some human's criteria. It is in no way pure and merely analytical. And as someone who wouldn't flag a single criteria mentioned in the article it still really bugs me that my personal history is coming under such scrutiny. imnsho, this intrusion isn't worth the 15 minute savings I'd get at the airport.
We end up paying more for the people who got scammed then we pay for hosting an investment honeypot or hundred.
Won't happen. I remember seeing an interview with a gcc developer and noting that some platform optimizations can't go into gcc due to patent issues. Been looking for it to cite but haven't found it yet.
This is what's bugging me. Ok, someone in the past has figured out how to do replication of data over a network. But now because we have the new bright, shiny technology of today (http and, ooooo, look XML) suddenly we have a new patent. So what now, we get a variation of this patent for the next 50 years because somebody finds a new way to package an old concept?
This is exactly why I despise business method patents and software patents especially. To those who say this is innovative I say poppy-cock. This is a natural extension of what can be capable with mobile devices as they become more powerful and able to have more memory. Say I have a laptop, I go to a web site and load a java app. I disconnect from the site then run my program and when I reconnect to the web I have my java app sync with the application server. How is this different from what the patent proposes? If IBM gets their linux wrist-watch working can they create another patent to do the same thing because it's a unique device compared to a Palm?
It is a foundation of open standards which have allowed for innovations like streaming media over the Internet. It is open standards which allow for rapid development of these services. What? You think it'll be better if companies X, Y and Z get 50 patents over one technology and then allow them to fight it out in court so we can have feature A in our web browsers? Or, after they've finished bickering, that it is ok for a corporate created browser to claim compliance because they can afford the licensing fees but a browser like Mnemonic can't because it's created by a bunch of hackers?
Patents are not needed or wanted for a standard like the one drafted by the W3C. Ever. If a company wants a product to become a standard for the WWW then they need to be willing to give up control of that "intellectual property." Otherwise, take your chance in the market and get eaten by MS (you know this just had to be included. it is /. :) like every other smoe out there.
Patents do have uses and I am all for them but not in software. As long as there is copyright and trade secrets available it's an axiom I won't accept.