sure I want a MX300 driver one more reason to remove my AWE64 that I only use with linux... I've emailed both but haven't heard anything... I choose the MX300 for the wide variety of formats it had the potential to use (A3D 1.0 & 2.0, DirectSound3D, & could support EAX). Pity they aren't terribly interested in supporting linux as well...
From what I've heard K7 SMP setups will probably have to wait on none-AMD designed chipsets. They are quite possible, but I don't think AMD plans on having their reference chipset design do SMP or we would have seen an extra processor slot on the pictures of the motherboard they've been using (the nice looking red one). Hopefully Ali & Via make chipsets that can do SMP for the K7. They could have for socket 7, but didn't so I guess we will just have to hope they think SMP is important this time.
I like Nvidia's hardware, but I think they need more programmers...
They haven't produced 3dnow! enhanced drivers for windows, they haven't released some form of linux driver support (no matter what people say I'd take none open source drivers if they would work, heck if I knew how to write drivers I'd sign an NDA with Nvidia so I could get my TNT working with linux even if I couldn't help anyone else).
I do like the level of quality their opengl ICD has in windows though, it is the most full featured of any video card I've seen (at least for the mass market). But some spark of hope for linux & 3dnow! support might be a good idea nvidia. If it's that hard to get drivers working with your current staff then how about hiring more people? I know their are dozens of talented programmers who would love to work for you...
I don't think rules have anything to do with education level. A open HS could work just as well as a highly restricted one with alot of rules. Actually it has much better potential of working. & as a anime/manga fan I do know a bit about japenese culture & it is not really the kids that push themselves to learn (at least not normally), it's the fact that everyone they know tells them they need to do well in school.
I also think they shouldn't be at the lowest level, but it's hard to pass a mentally useless football star through a physics class just because he's a football star. It looks much better to pass him straight through a generic science course where just about anything counts as having learned something.
Most of my points were relating to how they (the administration) feel the need to have special treatment in schools for the elist groups (football players & other jocks, as well as cheerleaders, & preppies). They even said they have to have those new uniforms for football over anything else. Thats also why we couldn't have any clubs, no money after the 'importnat things' like football & baseball.
I know that at least where I am from it would be nearly impossible to have really hard classes without some sort of leser class. People where I'm from where dumb. Bricks have more intelligence. The fact that the majority are quite capable of breeding (& in quite a few cases have) is scary to me. I had as many geography classes as they did (which was ~8) & after the first one I could tell you where panama is on a map (in fact I one a geography contest in 8th grade for my HS which made me quite less popular). On the other hand some of them still couldn't pick it out today.
As to your last question, I went to a small town rural HS in pennsylvania. Which had apple IIe's for computer until 2 years before I left & we only got new computers because our computer teacher was the computer advisor to the state governments education division & he got state money from them to update the computers (which kept breaking down almost daily). So that should give you some idea of where I come from.
I guess you came to a good school here. let me show you the differences between what you pointed out & my old HS:
1. Indeed we didn't have school uniforms, but they brought it up several times a year & now it seems liek they are going through with it. But we didn't have anywhere to work (unless you owned a car, which was rare), so no one could really work to try to get new clothes. 2. We didn't have a choice in classes the school was to small to have more than couple of choices (& none until 11th grade). Your choices were 1 of 2 different science & math courses. Oh & you had the chance to take french or spanish. lots of choice there. The popular kids tended to take the stupid do nothing classes, the others (like myself) took the tougher ones. 3. Students sure did believe that, it was left up to the individual to be inspired to get good grades. parents normally didn't liek bad grades, but then if you were a joke or cheerleader you automatically got those good grades without doing anything. 4. Sure HS was easy class wise. Dumbasses like half the population would never get through unless they were like that. After all everyone cannot be a jock no matter what (their simply aren't enough sports for that). In fact mine only had track, baseball, & foot ball. 5. No free food, you buy your lunch or you pack it. No free books, better buy those boy we don't have money to buy you books we need football uniforms. Clubs? What clubs? we didn't have: language clubs, art clubs, computer clubs, drama clubs, etc. We didn't even have the normal 'geeek' clubs like chess, debate, etc.
Maybe it's not exactly a police state, but it can't get to far from it when you add in that if your disliked you can be freely assaulted & tramitized by anyone at anytime for some people.
Not every school in the US is the same. They do though have the same hierchy though, nearly letter for letter. It's no wonder the ones like myself compared HS with a police state.
As much as I hate to have to mention this but that was the title of a CD not that many years ago. It had alternative music on it, when that was considered 'bad'.
I hate to trivielize (it was sold by a rather strange means) your point by mentioning that, but I felt I had to point out that it is hard to get people to do something even when you have a CD that sells all across the country to try to get recognition for your cause.
I feel that people should indeed do something about the problems, but I think your point that it has to be on paper is a bit off. FOr most of us paper isn't or best medium. We should hold to our strengths.
It's also a better palce for people like myself who aren't in HS any longer & aren't parents, so we have less contact with the parties involved anymore. Lets have webpages, lets use email, etc, etc. Thik of a free web service (fortunecity, Geocities, etc) having whole sections that are nothing but the stories of abuse & harassment that accured during ES, MS, & HS. Each one a personal story by one of us. Each talking baout what might have made/will make our lives better during tht period.
Maybe you don't think they know, but they do. On mor ethan one occasion while I was in HS I had encounters with principals & teachers who blamed my problems on myself for being different & not 'fitting in'. I had a couple teachers even agree with the people abusing me that I didn't have a right to exist. Several more thought I should just 'take it no matter what'.
Teachers, principals, conselours (don't make me go into the worthless consulour at my school), school board members, etc can all have been those popular people when they had been in HS & some people never do grow up no matter how old they get, so of course they can be just as bad as any kids can if not worse since they are given the control.
Now my parents where the blind ones, they didn't understand school==hell. They felt I should be able to put up with taunts & lack of social interaction from others (thats all they thought it was). They still don't get it today, they probably never will.
the K7 because of the bus system used (the same one in fact as the newest alphas) can support up to 16 processors on one board if someone felt like making a motherboard like that. A little more power & I think Kyrotech might be able to cool them all even....
Just think a 16 Ghz system (for only ~14,000 probably), that would be fun...
Hate to have to say this but to alot of people the name does matter. I've seen people buy PC's just because of a 'intel inside' logo. I've seen a network admin install netware on a server because to him 'anything else sucks'. I've seen the same person say 'we need win95 for the client because it's made by microsoft'. I think I've said enough 'I've seens' so I'll get to the point.
Obviously to some people nothing else besides the name matters. nothing. Hopefully that will change, but it doesn't seem to be happening yet.
I tried to explain what was happening to me in HS to my parents back when it happened & they have never understood. They don't see it as ever having been anything more than 'kids being kids'. Some of my roomates have not understood either. I think peopel who don't have to many problems in HS develop some kind of social blinders & can no longer see the problems & then some people just can't seem to take off the blinders they developed back in HS.
Know I'm not married (in fact I still haven't been able to get a date after 3 years of being in college because of the social hole I lived in during HS), but I know I couldn't live with someone who can't understand at least somewhat what I went through. Just because it didn't happen to them shouldn't mean they can't understand what it had to be like. If she won't read what you asked her to do then read them to her.
Personally I couldn't live with someone who couldn't have sympathy for living in hell for 4-9 years (HS, middle school, etc). I'm not saying to get a divorce or anything, but I think it brings up an issue that seriously needs to be discussed in a relationship.
I don't know about you but very few people get beat up on a regular basis during HS except those that a majority decided didn't fit in (myself included but I wasn't completely helpless like some so they didn't try that often). & I've heard quite a few say learn how to defend yourself, but that only goes so far when they have more than one person.
I've seen some similiar things in college since coming here. In fact one of my roomates my first semester was considered popular & another roomate was his stooge (aka a follower trying to be popular by association). At one point they decided I'd just never fit in in 'real' society from their perspective & even went so far as to threaten to kill me because I didn't fit their image. The 'popular' one was a already crazy person who had mood swings & I think was actually a manic depressive with a god complex, so they weren't sane but they never thought HS was bad or even cruel for them. Needless to say I made sure I moved out after they threatened to kill me, but that was hardly the last crazy person I meet. None of which were ever treated the same way as I had in HS because they conformed to the 'standard' for their HS.
your cost per year for undergrad is about what it costs me a year... it's ~$6000 per semester with 3 semesters a year or $18,000 a year. Not including books which are ~$300 per semester or $900 per year.
With that I get a crappy place to live with 3 other people in the same 2 bedroom apartment. Though they get to constantly keep tabs on us because it's their equavilent to dorm housing.
My college teaches COBOL specifically because of the y2k issue. 6 classes of it in 9 semesters to. Of course almost all of us hate it (& would rather be learning C/C++/Java/etc), but it's required so we do it anyways...
All those realitively young programmers are going to have a problem if all COBOL programmers are thought of as being old.
In my case I'm learning other languages on my own (though I think to many as I had a programming test the other day that I bombed because I accidentally coded a loop from another language), so I won't fall in the same hole as my peers.
Thats true, but even more so here for people yet to graduate. I've seen more than one co-op job (part time 30 hr/week in your major jobs) that lists 20k a year for the same thing they pay a graduate 60k for. But they don't want to pay 60k for a graduate, so they take 2 co-op people for 40k to do more work than that one would have (60 hrs as opposed to 40).
Even if you get out & find a job that pays 60k a year thats it for you around here. Highest starting salary recorded by my college for the last 5 years (including current salaries for those that have been out for 5 years) is 72k a year. At least within this state thats the best they have seen, now out of state they have one making 160k a year in california.
I'm thinking california might make a much better place to go right about now...
What classes are required varies & I've mentioned what my college requires as far as courses go elsewhere under this topic. But what I wanted to say was at least half the people starting here (which is not a 'normal' college, but an institute of technology) need to learn such simple things as: how to use word (they run win95 as client for certain reasons), how to open programs, how to create shortcuts, how to surf the web, how to use paint, etc, etc... the majority (70+%) are really computer dumb (why they choose to go to a tech school is beyond me). In fact I once had to tell a student how to turn the computer on.
I hope that gives you a good idea of what CS majors come here expecting.
Actually my college (DeVry institute if technology) teaches CIS (which is a CS degree) & we only take lower level math. We have endless hours of COBOL (7 courses in 9 semesters), but only 6 math classes (including accounting).
They do have this crazy idea where they want people to stay for 3 semesters & then they don't care about them though, so until 3rd semester it's not that hard. It's from there on out that things get hard, but not because of math.
Just for example initial CIS enrollment is ~800. By end of 3rd semester it is ~300. By 9th semester (which is where I am) it is ~40.
It's really no wonder people here switch from CIS to BIS (Business Information Systems, a business degree), instead of continuing CIS.
I was the bottom of the totem poll so there was no one below me, but if there had I would have reached out to them. No one above of course ever cared a damn about me, but as even you said thats not uncommon. It might be a good idea to reach out to others below you on the social ladder, but to be realistic very few are goign to have their already (in some cases) poor reputations & position lowered further by 'hanging out with that geek'.
Now while I can't speak for the other person, I was physically assaulted more than once during my time in high school (about 3 years ago) & let me tell you a little story.
In 6th grade I had about 6 people who all physically abused me for the length of that school year & at one point after being stabbed by a (thankfully!) non-lethal weapon I struck back. After having to see the principal & all those other authority figures (including the nurse) who wouldn't even listen to what the real problem was. I went back to class & the teacher took me aside & told me this: 'I know they verbally & physically abuse you every day, but I can't/won't protect you & if you fight here I'll be forced to help kick you out of school'.
THat wasn't the last time I heard similiar lines from people only one teacher in my entire time in HS ever even bothered to stand up for me & to him I am forever thankful, but he was always getting in trouble with the principal & school board because of his beliefs that things needed to change in schools.
Now I have a few friends who are just now graduating from the same HS & they tell me the same things are still going on just as they always seem to have. The people may change, but the situation does not. Administrators don't care about the students who don't fit in, period. I had one teacher who told me flat out that those that don't fit in should just be dead. It's ahrdly a wonder that I was suicidal at one point during HS.
I wish I had a solution to the problem, but I don't think letters to anyone is going to help & I don't think things will ever change on their own.
must have been nice having friends who could relate, I went to a very small school & their was no one. My parents didn't understand my problems any more than teachers et all. I was suicidal at one point even because of it.
For all the people who have said they've made it through being different in their younger days because of their friends are lucky. I had to keep myself alive on what little hope I could gather. If it has proved one thing it has proved that I can depend on myself & survive by myself no matter what, but the price was way to high if you ask me.
trust me thats how american schools (both HS with it's cliques & college with it's sororioties/et all). THose who don't conform might as well be dead because they aren't wanted. I was told that more than once so far in my life... It is rather funny though that at my college has a class I'm taking where the teacher keeps telling us we will be the ones to create policy in the future. I kinda doubt that, but it does seem like a nice concept...
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sure I want a MX300 driver one more reason to remove my AWE64 that I only use with linux...
I've emailed both but haven't heard anything...
I choose the MX300 for the wide variety of formats it had the potential to use (A3D 1.0 & 2.0, DirectSound3D, & could support EAX). Pity they aren't terribly interested in supporting linux as well...
From what I've heard K7 SMP setups will probably have to wait on none-AMD designed chipsets. They are quite possible, but I don't think AMD plans on having their reference chipset design do SMP or we would have seen an extra processor slot on the pictures of the motherboard they've been using (the nice looking red one). Hopefully Ali & Via make chipsets that can do SMP for the K7. They could have for socket 7, but didn't so I guess we will just have to hope they think SMP is important this time.
I like Nvidia's hardware, but I think they need more programmers...
They haven't produced 3dnow! enhanced drivers for windows, they haven't released some form of linux driver support (no matter what people say I'd take none open source drivers if they would work, heck if I knew how to write drivers I'd sign an NDA with Nvidia so I could get my TNT working with linux even if I couldn't help anyone else).
I do like the level of quality their opengl ICD has in windows though, it is the most full featured of any video card I've seen (at least for the mass market). But some spark of hope for linux & 3dnow! support might be a good idea nvidia. If it's that hard to get drivers working with your current staff then how about hiring more people? I know their are dozens of talented programmers who would love to work for you...
Ok lets go down the list again...
I don't think rules have anything to do with education level. A open HS could work just as well as a highly restricted one with alot of rules. Actually it has much better potential of working. & as a anime/manga fan I do know a bit about japenese culture & it is not really the kids that push themselves to learn (at least not normally), it's the fact that everyone they know tells them they need to do well in school.
I also think they shouldn't be at the lowest level, but it's hard to pass a mentally useless football star through a physics class just because he's a football star. It looks much better to pass him straight through a generic science course where just about anything counts as having learned something.
Most of my points were relating to how they (the administration) feel the need to have special treatment in schools for the elist groups (football players & other jocks, as well as cheerleaders, & preppies). They even said they have to have those new uniforms for football over anything else. Thats also why we couldn't have any clubs, no money after the 'importnat things' like football & baseball.
I know that at least where I am from it would be nearly impossible to have really hard classes without some sort of leser class. People where I'm from where dumb. Bricks have more intelligence. The fact that the majority are quite capable of breeding (& in quite a few cases have) is scary to me. I had as many geography classes as they did (which was ~8) & after the first one I could tell you where panama is on a map (in fact I one a geography contest in 8th grade for my HS which made me quite less popular). On the other hand some of them still couldn't pick it out today.
As to your last question, I went to a small town rural HS in pennsylvania. Which had apple IIe's for computer until 2 years before I left & we only got new computers because our computer teacher was the computer advisor to the state governments education division & he got state money from them to update the computers (which kept breaking down almost daily). So that should give you some idea of where I come from.
I guess you came to a good school here. let me show you the differences between what you pointed out & my old HS:
1. Indeed we didn't have school uniforms, but they brought it up several times a year & now it seems liek they are going through with it. But we didn't have anywhere to work (unless you owned a car, which was rare), so no one could really work to try to get new clothes.
2. We didn't have a choice in classes the school was to small to have more than couple of choices (& none until 11th grade). Your choices were 1 of 2 different science & math courses. Oh & you had the chance to take french or spanish. lots of choice there. The popular kids tended to take the stupid do nothing classes, the others (like myself) took the tougher ones.
3. Students sure did believe that, it was left up to the individual to be inspired to get good grades. parents normally didn't liek bad grades, but then if you were a joke or cheerleader you automatically got those good grades without doing anything.
4. Sure HS was easy class wise. Dumbasses like half the population would never get through unless they were like that. After all everyone cannot be a jock no matter what (their simply aren't enough sports for that). In fact mine only had track, baseball, & foot ball.
5. No free food, you buy your lunch or you pack it. No free books, better buy those boy we don't have money to buy you books we need football uniforms. Clubs? What clubs? we didn't have: language clubs, art clubs, computer clubs, drama clubs, etc. We didn't even have the normal 'geeek' clubs like chess, debate, etc.
Maybe it's not exactly a police state, but it can't get to far from it when you add in that if your disliked you can be freely assaulted & tramitized by anyone at anytime for some people.
Not every school in the US is the same. They do though have the same hierchy though, nearly letter for letter. It's no wonder the ones like myself compared HS with a police state.
As much as I hate to have to mention this but that was the title of a CD not that many years ago. It had alternative music on it, when that was considered 'bad'.
I hate to trivielize (it was sold by a rather strange means) your point by mentioning that, but I felt I had to point out that it is hard to get people to do something even when you have a CD that sells all across the country to try to get recognition for your cause.
I feel that people should indeed do something about the problems, but I think your point that it has to be on paper is a bit off. FOr most of us paper isn't or best medium. We should hold to our strengths.
It's also a better palce for people like myself who aren't in HS any longer & aren't parents, so we have less contact with the parties involved anymore. Lets have webpages, lets use email, etc, etc. Thik of a free web service (fortunecity, Geocities, etc) having whole sections that are nothing but the stories of abuse & harassment that accured during ES, MS, & HS. Each one a personal story by one of us. Each talking baout what might have made/will make our lives better during tht period.
Maybe you don't think they know, but they do. On mor ethan one occasion while I was in HS I had encounters with principals & teachers who blamed my problems on myself for being different & not 'fitting in'. I had a couple teachers even agree with the people abusing me that I didn't have a right to exist. Several more thought I should just 'take it no matter what'.
Teachers, principals, conselours (don't make me go into the worthless consulour at my school), school board members, etc can all have been those popular people when they had been in HS & some people never do grow up no matter how old they get, so of course they can be just as bad as any kids can if not worse since they are given the control.
Now my parents where the blind ones, they didn't understand school==hell. They felt I should be able to put up with taunts & lack of social interaction from others (thats all they thought it was). They still don't get it today, they probably never will.
it's more or less a x86 processor like any other so it should work no problem, but I don't think anyone will be able to test that for awhile still...
haven't seen how people banter about how AMD isn't as fast as Intel in processors just because of a 50 Mhz clock speed difference have you?
People think Mhz mean something unless they actually know what they are doing (which can be rare very rare).
the K7 because of the bus system used (the same one in fact as the newest alphas) can support up to 16 processors on one board if someone felt like making a motherboard like that. A little more power & I think Kyrotech might be able to cool them all even....
Just think a 16 Ghz system (for only ~14,000 probably), that would be fun...
Hate to have to say this but to alot of people the name does matter. I've seen people buy PC's just because of a 'intel inside' logo. I've seen a network admin install netware on a server because to him 'anything else sucks'. I've seen the same person say 'we need win95 for the client because it's made by microsoft'. I think I've said enough 'I've seens' so I'll get to the point.
Obviously to some people nothing else besides the name matters. nothing. Hopefully that will change, but it doesn't seem to be happening yet.
I tried to explain what was happening to me in HS to my parents back when it happened & they have never understood. They don't see it as ever having been anything more than 'kids being kids'. Some of my roomates have not understood either. I think peopel who don't have to many problems in HS develop some kind of social blinders & can no longer see the problems & then some people just can't seem to take off the blinders they developed back in HS.
Know I'm not married (in fact I still haven't been able to get a date after 3 years of being in college because of the social hole I lived in during HS), but I know I couldn't live with someone who can't understand at least somewhat what I went through. Just because it didn't happen to them shouldn't mean they can't understand what it had to be like. If she won't read what you asked her to do then read them to her.
Personally I couldn't live with someone who couldn't have sympathy for living in hell for 4-9 years (HS, middle school, etc). I'm not saying to get a divorce or anything, but I think it brings up an issue that seriously needs to be discussed in a relationship.
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I don't know about you but very few people get beat up on a regular basis during HS except those that a majority decided didn't fit in (myself included but I wasn't completely helpless like some so they didn't try that often). & I've heard quite a few say learn how to defend yourself, but that only goes so far when they have more than one person.
I've seen some similiar things in college since coming here. In fact one of my roomates my first semester was considered popular & another roomate was his stooge (aka a follower trying to be popular by association). At one point they decided I'd just never fit in in 'real' society from their perspective & even went so far as to threaten to kill me because I didn't fit their image. The 'popular' one was a already crazy person who had mood swings & I think was actually a manic depressive with a god complex, so they weren't sane but they never thought HS was bad or even cruel for them. Needless to say I made sure I moved out after they threatened to kill me, but that was hardly the last crazy person I meet. None of which were ever treated the same way as I had in HS because they conformed to the 'standard' for their HS.
your cost per year for undergrad is about what it costs me a year... it's ~$6000 per semester with 3 semesters a year or $18,000 a year. Not including books which are ~$300 per semester or $900 per year.
With that I get a crappy place to live with 3 other people in the same 2 bedroom apartment. Though they get to constantly keep tabs on us because it's their equavilent to dorm housing.
All in all not that bad compared to your costs...
Maybe my school is strange but we learn stuff that is alot different then what you are talking about...
here is a list of ideas you covered that we do have classes for:
data structures.
Thats it, nothing else.
The school I'm talking about is rather prestigous to. We never even hear about anything else mentioned during our time here.
My college teaches COBOL specifically because of the y2k issue. 6 classes of it in 9 semesters to. Of course almost all of us hate it (& would rather be learning C/C++/Java/etc), but it's required so we do it anyways...
All those realitively young programmers are going to have a problem if all COBOL programmers are thought of as being old.
In my case I'm learning other languages on my own (though I think to many as I had a programming test the other day that I bombed because I accidentally coded a loop from another language), so I won't fall in the same hole as my peers.
Thats true, but even more so here for people yet to graduate. I've seen more than one co-op job (part time 30 hr/week in your major jobs) that lists 20k a year for the same thing they pay a graduate 60k for. But they don't want to pay 60k for a graduate, so they take 2 co-op people for 40k to do more work than that one would have (60 hrs as opposed to 40).
Even if you get out & find a job that pays 60k a year thats it for you around here. Highest starting salary recorded by my college for the last 5 years (including current salaries for those that have been out for 5 years) is 72k a year. At least within this state thats the best they have seen, now out of state they have one making 160k a year in california.
I'm thinking california might make a much better place to go right about now...
What classes are required varies & I've mentioned what my college requires as far as courses go elsewhere under this topic. But what I wanted to say was at least half the people starting here (which is not a 'normal' college, but an institute of technology) need to learn such simple things as: how to use word (they run win95 as client for certain reasons), how to open programs, how to create shortcuts, how to surf the web, how to use paint, etc, etc... the majority (70+%) are really computer dumb (why they choose to go to a tech school is beyond me). In fact I once had to tell a student how to turn the computer on.
I hope that gives you a good idea of what CS majors come here expecting.
Actually my college (DeVry institute if technology) teaches CIS (which is a CS degree) & we only take lower level math. We have endless hours of COBOL (7 courses in 9 semesters), but only 6 math classes (including accounting).
They do have this crazy idea where they want people to stay for 3 semesters & then they don't care about them though, so until 3rd semester it's not that hard. It's from there on out that things get hard, but not because of math.
Just for example initial CIS enrollment is ~800. By end of 3rd semester it is ~300. By 9th semester (which is where I am) it is ~40.
It's really no wonder people here switch from CIS to BIS (Business Information Systems, a business degree), instead of continuing CIS.
We had a senior HS student taking classes at DeVry because of that & I only wish we had had that back in PA where I grew up...
I was the bottom of the totem poll so there was no one below me, but if there had I would have reached out to them. No one above of course ever cared a damn about me, but as even you said thats not uncommon. It might be a good idea to reach out to others below you on the social ladder, but to be realistic very few are goign to have their already (in some cases) poor reputations & position lowered further by 'hanging out with that geek'.
Now while I can't speak for the other person, I was physically assaulted more than once during my time in high school (about 3 years ago) & let me tell you a little story.
In 6th grade I had about 6 people who all physically abused me for the length of that school year & at one point after being stabbed by a (thankfully!) non-lethal weapon I struck back. After having to see the principal & all those other authority figures (including the nurse) who wouldn't even listen to what the real problem was. I went back to class & the teacher took me aside & told me this: 'I know they verbally & physically abuse you every day, but I can't/won't protect you & if you fight here I'll be forced to help kick you out of school'.
THat wasn't the last time I heard similiar lines from people only one teacher in my entire time in HS ever even bothered to stand up for me & to him I am forever thankful, but he was always getting in trouble with the principal & school board because of his beliefs that things needed to change in schools.
Now I have a few friends who are just now graduating from the same HS & they tell me the same things are still going on just as they always seem to have. The people may change, but the situation does not. Administrators don't care about the students who don't fit in, period. I had one teacher who told me flat out that those that don't fit in should just be dead. It's ahrdly a wonder that I was suicidal at one point during HS.
I wish I had a solution to the problem, but I don't think letters to anyone is going to help & I don't think things will ever change on their own.
must have been nice having friends who could relate, I went to a very small school & their was no one. My parents didn't understand my problems any more than teachers et all. I was suicidal at one point even because of it.
For all the people who have said they've made it through being different in their younger days because of their friends are lucky. I had to keep myself alive on what little hope I could gather. If it has proved one thing it has proved that I can depend on myself & survive by myself no matter what, but the price was way to high if you ask me.
trust me thats how american schools (both HS with it's cliques & college with it's sororioties/et all). THose who don't conform might as well be dead because they aren't wanted. I was told that more than once so far in my life... It is rather funny though that at my college has a class I'm taking where the teacher keeps telling us we will be the ones to create policy in the future. I kinda doubt that, but it does seem like a nice concept...